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[Q] Droid 2 Global

Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.

More than likely it will work. Its a GSM capable phone, soo...yeah. You should check out the Nexus One too, its older but its still hanging up there with all the newest phones.

Yah the nexus one was very interesting and it was the original dev phone, idk i'd rather just be closer to the cutting edge and that 1.2ghz proc plus hardware keyboard really entices me lol

Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though

karnovaran said:
Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though
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So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow

Douglerful said:
So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow
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I messed with a G2 the other day and it was great. Very solid build, excellent keyboard, vanilla Android... not to mention, it already has a massive developer base.

Thats good to hear i heard there were some sketchy things about the build quality of the hinges

I open and closed it several times and it seemed as solid as it needs to be. I think some people might just be too anal.

Hahahahahha Gee I hope i'm not one of those people cuz if i can't get my hands on a n unlocked Droid 2 Global thats my choice

Ha you can't go wrong either way. The Droid 2 is a tank. My only concerns with the Global would be how much compatibility it will have with D2/DX hacks and whether sbfs will be leaked. Development is much more sparse on these new Motos than HTCs like the G2.

Yah i've looked through the forums and htc's seem to attract a lot of dev interest, meh more room for me in the moto department then

I'm pretty sure it won't have AWS. USA/Canada are the only ones who use it, and they have CDMA networks. Why would Verizon need to roam on any AWS network?
According to leaked specs of the Droid Pro, it has UMTS 850/1900/2100
Since its specifications are very similar to the Droid 2 Global, I'm guessing (and hoping) it also has the same bands so that I have the option of buying it and using it on AT&T.
I don't know why they went with these bands for the Pro since Europe uses 900/2100 and the Pro is missing 900. I don't think 900 is very common though, and Australia uses 850MHz so that may be why.

Is it possible and recommendable to buy the prepaid Verizons droid 2 global instead of the full price one, so you save 150 dols, and then unlock it and use it with another GSM carrier outside the US? Or should I buy the ones that are for sale on ebay?

Douglerful said:
Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.
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For T-Mobile 3g I would go for the My Touch 4g or the Samsung Vibrant or The Nexus One. The Nexus One is still cutting edge. I have a Nexus One and a Droid 2 Global and the 1.2 processor doesn't really feel different. The Droid 2 Global also has barley any support here and absolutely no roms. I Love my Nexus One and I think it is better than any other smart-phone iv seen. If you want a great phone with amazing support and roms I would go with the Nexus.

Droid 2 GLOBAL - unsuccessful ROOT!
I was able to get a pre-retail Droid 2 Global a few weeks ago.
I wanted to Root is and use the Sapphire ROM. So I tried every ROOT method I could find using my MAC = no avail!
Then I tried every ROOT method I could find using a PC = NO AVAIL! (1-2-3, One click, etc)
* The only thing that happened was the phone got real hot and the program got stuck at "searching for device" - & yes I downloaded the Motorola drivers and the updated SDK pack.
Any thoughts on this?

You need to run the root apps again consecutively not always does it work the first time and all of the apps do the same exploit and there have been Droid 2 Globals that have rooted you just need to stick with it. Also sometimes it helps to reboot your phone after a failed attempt. It just depends on the phone. I remember when root first came for the D2 and we didn't have apps we had to run all the commands from ADB and do it manually.

Still no dice to Root Droid 2 Global
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
-d

D I O R D said:
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
-d
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Be VERY careful!!! Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global ROM's are NOT compatible. If you flash Droid 2 rom on D2G, phone will not boot and as there is no SBF available yet, you are looking into expensive paperweight until SBF is released.
BTW - phone is rootable. But refrain from flashing anything before you have way to get out if phone gets bricked. You have been warned.

Thanks for the heads up...
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T

D I O R D said:
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T
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Even if you have a D2 G clockwork regularly won't work because the D2 only has a bootstrapped recovery. I don't have a D2 G but the D2 G is based on the D2 and on the D2 you should only install things with koush's bootstrap. I believe flashing normal clockwork will brick your D2 G. I wouldn't flash anything though before the D2 G's sbf is out. Unless you don't mind an expensive paperweight until then.
For all D2 G owner's: read everyting you can about the way that things are done with the D2 so you will knw what you are doing when ROM's and things come for the D2 Global.
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Using on AT&T?

I know out of the box the Droid Razr Maxx HD is a world phone with the exception of being locked to prevent use on AT&T, but I'm wondering if anyone has gotten this phone to work on AT&T?
Thanks in advance.
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Tips and tricks?

I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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ThizizKenny said:
I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
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=JKT= said:
One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
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Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim

absolutelygrim said:
Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim
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Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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Hmm... As for hidden suprises, not knowing if your phone is the dual or quad core will really mess you up (as said above) lol.
The keyboard is kinda cool since you can swipe with it. That was new to me. It's also suprising how fast the phone is once you put jellybean sense on it.
Gotta use twrp instead of cwm.
Screen is kinda easy to break so don't drop your phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL

Concidering quad cores aren't supported on Canadas network, I know I have the duel core model, plus it says it on the box , as for the screen break, I really gotta go get me a case soon lol
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Happy holidays.
As far as tips and tricks.
If you love Sense try VenomXL
If you love AOSP try JellyBam.
Those are the best tricked out roms with awesome performance.
Sent from my HTC One XL

=JKT= said:
Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
Oh, also to clear up any other confusion, the HTC One XL on ATT/Rogers/Telstra as well as the international One X are all also GSM and all have SIM cards.

tekkneke said:
I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
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Ah, you are right. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the misinformation. My bad.
Edit: just deleted all that because I can summarize it in one or two sentences.
Some people have the misconception that gsm and international are interchangeable. I was only trying to address that, esp. Because its been a blurry issue for some Canadian users.
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If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
Sent from my Calkulins HTC One XL using xda-developers app

Megadoug13 said:
If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
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There's not much to be jelly about except the storage amount

More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.

Jonathan_A said:
More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.
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But really, how many backups do you need on your device at any given time. 1, 2 maybe.
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Mine poops all over my bro in law's X+.
Just sayin....
But his isnt rooted lol.. but shhh.. let me enjoy my throne
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one piece of advice, flash a jellybean rom as soon as possible, it kicks ICS's butt.

Do not upgrade to software 2.20. If you have AT&T and your software number is 1.85, stay there! This was my first mistake and now I have to flash boot.imgs manually.

Using a HTC thunderbolt in europw

Hi, I have bougth a HTC thunderbolt verizon from a friend who bougth the phone in america.
I live in Holland (a.k.a. Netherlands) and i want to use the phone in my country..
when i put my sim card in my phone it says: '' please wait while your phone is activating ''
Does anyone know how i could unlock it? or isn't it possible to use this phone in holland?
Please help me, i'm a noob! haha
Greetz, Taj

The bolt isn't a global phone so it won't work on GSM bands nor can it be unlocked to work on GSM bands. Its CDMA/LTE/EVDO.
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Yeah you would need to get a global phone like a HTC rezound or a droid 3 or 4. There are other global phones out that uses both CDMA and gsm. So best thing is to use it as like an iPod touch or sell it and look for a global phone.
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Att LTE for droid mini?

OK I'm on att with my droid mini and I really want LTE on my phone! Is there anyway we can put moto x bands on the mini to get LTE service?
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GraphicDemon said:
OK I'm on att with my droid mini and I really want LTE on my phone! Is there anyway we can put moto x bands on the mini to get LTE service?
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I asked the same question a month or two ago. I think the answer is no, unfortunately. Wish they had released an AT&T version of the mini!

phositadc said:
I asked the same question a month or two ago. I think the answer is no, unfortunately. Wish they had released an AT&T version of the mini!
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Unfortunately the name "Droid" is a trademark of Lucas Films and Verizon (not Motorola) has purchased the right to use the Droid name. So you you will never see a phone named "Droid" anything on any carrier except Verizon. IMO that's why even though the Moto X fits right in the line with the Mini, Ultra, and Maxx, it didn't get the Droid name allowing it to be used on other carriers.

ratman6161 said:
Unfortunately the name "Droid" is a trademark of Lucas Films and Verizon (not Motorola) has purchased the right to use the Droid name. So you you will never see a phone named "Droid" anything on any carrier except Verizon. IMO that's why even though the Moto X fits right in the line with the Mini, Ultra, and Maxx, it didn't get the Droid name allowing it to be used on other carriers.
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Right but lots of times Motorola will release something similar on other carriers. Like the Atrix. Doesn't necessarily need to be called "droid mini" or look identical but I wish there was an att equivalent!
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You can try the radios for at&t moto x on your mini. Those radios should be fine with your mini. If not just flash the old radios back
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r00st3r9109 said:
You can try the radios for at&t moto x on your mini. Those radios should be fine with your mini. If not just flash the old radios back
Sent from my Droid Ultra Limited Edition
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Will they flash with the bootloader locked?
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phositadc said:
Will they flash with the bootloader locked?
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Amazingly, they do flash. I just flashed NON-HLOS.bin, then ran "erase modemst1" and "erase modemst2" and then flashed fsg.mbn. My radio now shows as the same radio on my AT&T Moto X. I then added the "phone" APN.
Very disappointed to report that I'm still not getting LTE on the mini on AT&T.
Too bad. Worth a try. Would have been awesome if it had worked, but I guess it just doesn't have the correct bands, even with the AT&T radio flashed. If anybody else has any ideas, would love to hear them.

You will get LTE in areas that have band 4 active. I have it some places and others not.

The at&t bands are different then Verizon. And as the mini/ultra/maxx was made exclusive for Verizon....... You may never have luck. Sorry about that. If I had better news for you I would let u know. Even with a locked boot loader, you can still flash a lot of things
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r00st3r9109 said:
The at&t bands are different then Verizon. And as the mini/ultra/maxx was made exclusive for Verizon....... You may never have luck. Sorry about that. If I had better news for you I would let u know. Even with a locked boot loader, you can still flash a lot of things
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I went out and got a prepaid TMobile sim for my maxx today to try out their service. As I typed this, its being posted over Tmobile LTE which is suprisingly faster by 8Mb/s than VZW LTE
Maxx'd out Kit Kat

Topsnake said:
I went out and got a prepaid TMobile sim for my maxx today to try out their service. As I typed this, its being posted over Tmobile LTE which is suprisingly faster by 8Mb/s than VZW LTE
Maxx'd out Kit Kat
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Is band 4 available out there. If so then that is why it works. There is a will work won't work issue. It all depends.
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r00st3r9109 said:
Is band 4 available out there. If so then that is why it works. There is a will work won't work issue. It all depends.
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I assume band 4 is available. Was really surprised by it
Maxx'd out Kit Kat

In metro areas you have a better chance of picking up band 4 on att. Most areas are not band 4. T-Mobile is (for the moment) exclusively band 4.
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can anyone share what settings that they are using to get ATT 4G?