I'm going to buy a Nexus S. I see there are couple versions and I don't know which one should I choose.
Those questions are about GSM version : GT-I9020A and GT-I9020T
What are the differences between 2 version ?
Which one can I use on T-Mobile ? (Does it support 3G / 4G ?)
Is it possible to get (official) Jelly Bean on Nexus S ?
i9020 have an amoled screen, and i9023 have a slcd screen. Nexus S 4G supports 4g not the other ones
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There's no word on JB from what I've seen yet for the NS. Just wait and see. You want the 9020t version for TMo. The 9020a is the AT&T variant.
Can you change the Modem
If you get a AT&T model can you install the T-Mobile modem on it and still get 4G service?
Honestly don't know. I know my friend has an old iPhone from AT&T, but he can only use 2G because the 3G bands or whatever are different. I'd assume it would be the same for the Nexus S. But like I said, I don't have a solid answer for it.
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If you get a AT&T model can you install the T-Mobile modem on it and still get 4G service?
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No.
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So I ordered a new, sealed I9020A from eBay. Arrived today (I'm out of town) and my wife took a photo of the box. It's a model GT-I9020FSRRWC, which is a Canadian variant of the Nexus S with compatible US 3G bands (AT&T). Here is my question:
I have had several I9020A's in the past here in the US. All had horribly slow 3G data and I returned all three of them because of this. Now, I know that Best Buy is subsidizing an I9020A variant for AT&T, making the model "sanctioned" on AT&T. I have to believe the radio & firmware for that model works seamlessly with AT&T's network (which the Canadian I9020A's don't). I know I can flash the radio from KB1 to KB3 or something similar, but would applying the firmware for the following make it identical to what Best Buy is selling as the official AT&T variant?
GTJ61 - Android 2.3.4, the original Nexus S firmware for the US version of I9020A.
From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
Basically, I want the identical firmware and radio as the units sold for AT&T by Best Buy on my Canadian device because I don't want to deal with any network funkiness. It's maddeningly frustrating...
Thanks.
I've tried the new AT&T modem, it's still speed hobbled. For some reason, all modems that come with the i9020a have a capped transfer rate. I've flashed the KB3 radio from the i9020T series and i can now easily reach over 2 megs on the upload.
the KB3 modem also deadens the search button bug a lot.
Hmm, not the news I had hoped for. I'll give it a shot...thanks.
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So does anyone know the difference between the GT-I9020A and GT-I9020FSRRWC?
Thanks!
use the HSPA build.prop tweaks from the radio thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116884 with KF1 radio you should have normal speeds so long as its not a hardware issue
Okay so I couldn't help but notice BestBuy no longer sells The Nexus S for T-mobile anymore, but what I did notice is they do sell it for At&t with the i9020T Model Number Attached leading me to suspect that this phone does have the hardware capability to run 850/900/1800/1900 as well as 900/2100/1700 network bands, it is software determined which also makes total sense with the possible inquisition of t-mobile by at&t which I might add may still happen. Whats your thoughts people?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+Google+Nexus+S+Mobile+Phone+-+Black+%28AT%26T%29/2356115.p?id=1218323076669&skuId=2356115&st=Nexus%20S&cp=1&lp=1&contract_desc=
Not correct. Different radios on the chip.
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It's definitely not software determined. If they sell the T version to an AT&T customer, they will definitely be giving the customer a new phone when they find out 3G doesn't work.
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It's definitely not software determined. If they sell the T version to an AT&T customer, they will definitely be giving the customer a new phone when they find out 3G doesn't work.
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And can you please show me your sources of information, or are you just passing on something you read?....you do know the i9020A is no longer available, and t-mobile contracts for nexus s no longer exist, only at&t and sprint have it now at&t version now branded i9020T,
GT-i9020T is actually a quad band model however they only previously enabled T-Mobile 3G the hardware itself can handle the frequencies, it would however need the baseband flashed via ota update from the manufacturer for the baseband radio to be enabled for at&t 3g , I think a little surprise will be awaiting once the ice cream sandwich ota update arives baseband update included....
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And can you please show me your sources of information, or are you just passing on something you read?....you do know the i9020A is no longer available, and t-mobile contracts for nexus s no longer exist, only at&t and sprint have it now at&t version now branded i9020T,
GT-i9020T is actually a quad band model however they only previously enabled T-Mobile 3G the hardware itself can handle the frequencies, it would however need the baseband flashed via ota update from the manufacturer for the baseband radio to be enabled for at&t 3g , I think a little surprise will be awaiting once the ice cream sandwich ota update arives baseband update included....
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Yes, it is quad band 850/900/1800/1900 on GSM. It supports HSPA frequencies 900/1700/2100. That is not 3G compatible with AT&T.
I just got a Nexus S from Best Buy for ATT and mine is a A not a T.
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I just got mine Monday from best buy and it is an A model not a T.
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So the International Version has no 4G support that has been established; however, their could be a possible way to still get 4G. I have seen with the SG2 International and The SG2 Tmo if you flash the modem of the tmo one onto the international they got 4G on Tmo. I have also read that i think it was the nexus or galaxy note or something had a locked band that they unlocked.... I heard that a radio probably wont change anything but does anyone else have any ideas?
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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dislplin01 said:
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Don't like waiting and I travel a lot.
Personally I think you should just wait you gaffe the s2 so it's not like you dying from a crappy phone and that way you would know it works properly I'm not sure about the one s but I know on my HTC sensation there is a extra antenna for the 4 g and we can't even buy a extra battery cover unless it had that antenna or we loose 4g
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I already HAVE the one s I came from the amaze for the record. Interesting thoughts.
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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So say its all over and theirs no changing it. Those of us who had no idea that it wouldn't work is their any way would could minupulate HTC or Tmo into giving us a version that will suport it. You could play the "It says hspa+ on your website"
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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joshnichols189 said:
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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htc fan89 said:
It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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So people wouldn't buy one to use it for a carrier it wasn't meant to be on? If the band is only in the T-Mobile version and people are on T-Mobile, their only choice is to buy it from T-Mobile if they want 3G.
T-Mobile probably doesn't want people buying their flagship off contract.
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Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
Check out my thread on getting this phone to work on WIND (similar to T-Mobile, but in Canada). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323
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Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
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There's a ton of posts on the One X forum where people got it working using EDGE for data. Folks on this forum are trying to get the XL working for 3G data on Wind. If they do, it'll work on T-Mobile U.S. also.
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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There's a huge conversation going on about what's published and what the radio's capable of. There's a hack for the G-Note that folks are going to try and make work on the One X (assuming the h/w supports the bands). With the hack, the G-Note lost a bunch of signal strength and battery life so it's far from perfect.
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The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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Hardware-wise it has.
If you go to HTC USA website you see that it does. The Tegra 3 based international version doesn't, but Rogers/AT&T version does. There is another thread where someone purchased the Rogers version and tried to use it on WIND (which uses the same band as tmobile usa), and got no data (phone is unlocked, but no edge no 3G). If the problem is due to the lack of WIND/tmobile 3G bands, he would have at least get EDGE data. He contacted HTC Canada and HTC verified that the phone hardware indeed support those band, and the issue has to do with Rogers implementation of the software.
The same happened with AT&T Galaxy Note. It supports tmobile 3G band, but was disabled in software. People here are able to open up those bands by flashing new radio on it.
It is still not know whether the AT&T One X has T-Mobile 3G bands disabled in software or not, and if it does, whether it can be easily re-enabled. But the hardware support is there.
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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No, it's locked to AT&T man.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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As long as you purchase an unlock code and unlock the phone then it will give you edge + voice on Tmobile.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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This sucks. I'm on Tmobile and was holding out for the AT&T One X to use on Tmobile. Didnt want the One S because of the small screen. May have to go with the Galaxy Nexus for 400.00.
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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1900 hasn't been refarmed in my area but that would be the only option for somebody to use the One X on 3g/4g.
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Yes...most definitely. Once the AT&T version is officially released, you'll likely see numerous posts on how to unlock. There are some threads already starting if you search...
Here is an unlock site the says they can unlock the ONE X (AT&T Version) phone already. It costs in the neighborhood of $15, but that is a small price to pay to carrier unlock. If you live in a TMobile area that has reassigned their HSPA+ to the same 1900MHz Band AT&T uses it should be well worth being able to grab a tmobile sim for back up data or switching over completely. From what I have read, TMobile will be moving most of their markets HSPA+ to the 1900 MHz band in the not too distant future so this could be win win. I am going to give this a shot on May 4th when my phone is supposed to show up, I will post back with my success or failure.
Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Sorry, that's a negative.
There are several variations of the Snapdragon S4. Some with LTE, some without.
In this case, the One X LTE has the S4 MSM8960 with LTE. The One S has the S4 MSM8260A, without LTE.
What exactly is WCDMA AWS band? Because on the HTC website it says the One XL has that. I thought that is both bands for tmobile 4G.
So I have a Nexus s that I got from best buy for AT&T and I recently dropped AT&T for T mobile. I'm trying to update my nexus to 4.1 and I keep getting the status 7 error. My version was and still is I9020A and that's the update version I tried. Do I need to use the T mobile one even though its different? Just trying not to brick my phone. Sorry if this is a little confusing. Sorta new to this.
Thanks!
The rom for the i9020A is the same rom for the i9020T. You are getting that error because your Clockworkmod recovery is old, update it.
You can also flash the factory image from here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Please let us know if you get 3G on Tmobile with it and what area you're in.
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The radio is the only difference. I9020A runs on 850/1900 while I9020T runs on 900/1700/2100.
So you won't get HSPA on your phone, only EDGE if you have I9020A on T-Mobile.
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The radio is the only difference. I9020A runs on 850/1900 while I9020T runs on 900/1700/2100.
So you won't get HSPA on your phone, only EDGE if you have I9020A on T-Mobile.
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Actually at some location T-Mobile sim works with 1900 band now, due to the deal after the failed buyout by ATT. I got 3G on T-Mobile using an unlocked Captivate.