Okay so I couldn't help but notice BestBuy no longer sells The Nexus S for T-mobile anymore, but what I did notice is they do sell it for At&t with the i9020T Model Number Attached leading me to suspect that this phone does have the hardware capability to run 850/900/1800/1900 as well as 900/2100/1700 network bands, it is software determined which also makes total sense with the possible inquisition of t-mobile by at&t which I might add may still happen. Whats your thoughts people?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+Google+Nexus+S+Mobile+Phone+-+Black+%28AT%26T%29/2356115.p?id=1218323076669&skuId=2356115&st=Nexus%20S&cp=1&lp=1&contract_desc=
Not correct. Different radios on the chip.
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It's definitely not software determined. If they sell the T version to an AT&T customer, they will definitely be giving the customer a new phone when they find out 3G doesn't work.
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It's definitely not software determined. If they sell the T version to an AT&T customer, they will definitely be giving the customer a new phone when they find out 3G doesn't work.
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And can you please show me your sources of information, or are you just passing on something you read?....you do know the i9020A is no longer available, and t-mobile contracts for nexus s no longer exist, only at&t and sprint have it now at&t version now branded i9020T,
GT-i9020T is actually a quad band model however they only previously enabled T-Mobile 3G the hardware itself can handle the frequencies, it would however need the baseband flashed via ota update from the manufacturer for the baseband radio to be enabled for at&t 3g , I think a little surprise will be awaiting once the ice cream sandwich ota update arives baseband update included....
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And can you please show me your sources of information, or are you just passing on something you read?....you do know the i9020A is no longer available, and t-mobile contracts for nexus s no longer exist, only at&t and sprint have it now at&t version now branded i9020T,
GT-i9020T is actually a quad band model however they only previously enabled T-Mobile 3G the hardware itself can handle the frequencies, it would however need the baseband flashed via ota update from the manufacturer for the baseband radio to be enabled for at&t 3g , I think a little surprise will be awaiting once the ice cream sandwich ota update arives baseband update included....
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Yes, it is quad band 850/900/1800/1900 on GSM. It supports HSPA frequencies 900/1700/2100. That is not 3G compatible with AT&T.
I just got a Nexus S from Best Buy for ATT and mine is a A not a T.
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I just got mine Monday from best buy and it is an A model not a T.
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Hey NSers.
I bought a Nexus S just about the week it came out from Best Buy, but I've decided to move on to another phone. I had thought that purchasing it from Best Buy meant that it shipped unlocked, with no specific carrier, but I just tried an AT&T SIM card in the phone, and it gets no service.
I called T-Mobile, but the woman I spoke to informed me that they couldn't request an unlock code because it's not a phone they actually support.
So I'm wondering how I can unlock it.
Right now, its bootloader is unlocked and it's rooted, if that makes any difference (I'm hoping there will be something easy I can do that doesn't involve contacting either Google or Samsung).
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
your nexus s IS unlocked as of google phones.
the problem is that the nexus s does not support (hardware) AT&T cellular bands.
there is a specific model of the nexus s (I9020A if i'm not wrong) that support those AT&T bands.. sorry.
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your nexus s IS unlocked as of google phones.
the problem is that the nexus s does not support (hardware) AT&T cellular bands.
there is a specific model of the nexus s (I9020A if i'm not wrong) that support those AT&T bands.. sorry.
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Oh, really? I thought it supported AT&T GSM bands, but not the 3G bands.
And no worries. It's an i9020T, so maybe it's unlocked but still works only with TMo. Darn.
willentrekin said:
Oh, really? I thought it supported AT&T GSM bands, but not the 3G bands.
And no worries. It's an i9020T, so maybe it's unlocked but still works only with TMo. Darn.
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I think he meant to say it does not support at&t 3g bands. It should work on any GSM carrier, but may not work on 3g.
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I think he meant to say it does not support at&t 3g bands. It should work on any GSM carrier, but may not work on 3g.
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Right. But if I put in an AT&T SIM, it should work with AT&T's GSM frequencies, right? I'm really not looking forward to calling Samsung tomorrow.
I should go to best buy and ask if you can swap it for a i9020A.
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I should go to best buy and ask if you can swap it for a i9020A.
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I9029A isn't sold in best buy. I'd go to AT&T and get a new sim card. Your phone should work just fine on AT&T, u just won't have 3G.
I've had a similar experience with the Canadian carriers, however if the carrier supports GSM bands it will work (like previously said) it's when the carrier only supports HSDPA (like Koodo in Canada does) then you need the specific Nexus S (i9020A in your case).
You could also try adding the APN to see if that will allow you to connect (Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names (APN)) - the details can be found on the forums / your carriers website.
Works for me.
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Right. But if I put in an AT&T SIM, it should work with AT&T's GSM frequencies, right?
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Works for me. I live in NYC, and I picked up a Nexus S at Best Buy over the Easter break as a quick temp phone till I got my Captivate fixed.
No 3g, but it certainly works on Edge. Makes calls, data works, syncs with google apps, etc.
Maybe you're just in a poor reception spot for ATT...
Thanks for the advice. Will retry. I'd wanted to confirm AT&T would work before I put it on eBay.
Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
Also, is there such a thing as a carrier locked Nexus S? I want to buy the Koodo Mobile Nexus S for $425 off contract (cheapest I can find), but I want to use it on the Mobilicity network. Will I need to carrier unlock the device somehow? I can't seem to find any "unlock Nexus S" sources, so I assume this is unnecessary?
The more I look into this issue, the more confused I get. A lot of places say the Nexus S is quad-band GSM + AWS, so doesn't that mean I should be able to get 3G from anywhere? The FAQ on this forum states that the original Nexus S can only get 3G speeds on TMobile's AWS band--conversely, does that then mean that the new "AT&T" Nexus S phones can't get 3G speeds on AWS? i.e. Do I need to buy a phone from an AWS carrier to get 3G?
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is an Unlocked Rogers/AT&T/Bell/Telus/Fido compatible version. Not to mention it will work with any other bands in the world except the situation Wind/Mobilicity have.
Their phone system is not backwards compatible, they came out in the market just about 2 years ago, they started off with 3G/3.5G straight where Rogers initially started with Standard, moved on to Edge/2G/2.5G and upgraded themselves to 3G and eventually 3.5G, same goes for Telus/Bell/Fido.
If you purchase any of Wind/Mobilicity phone, they will be compatible with any other careers in the world, but you will not get 3G if tried on UMTS. Their phones will only work on the AWS 3G frequency. Which in case means if you bought wind/mobilicity compatible phone, you will get 2G/Edge on Rogers.
Other way around - Koodo phone with Wind/Mobilicity SIM - will give you Wind/Mobilicity Away network only, means it is useless for you. The only phone in canadian market works with Rogers and Wind 3G frequency is Nokia N8 which is a Pentaband phone. Nexus S on the other hand is a Quadband phone, and is made specifically for the career, thats why we have 3/4 different versions, AWS, UMTS, 4G to work with Sprint in US and i guess there is one other model for India and China as well.
All the Nexus S variants come unlocked, outright or on contract, as its a Google's own baby and they don't lock it except the bootloader.
I bought mine with Koodo from Future Shop as it is listed as not an outright sale on Koodo's website, but FS and BBY do sell them outright. It is unlocked out of the box, just pop your SIM in and you are good to go assuming you are going to go with Rogers/Bell/Telus/Koodo/Fido.
My two cents, go with Wind, they offer you wind tab, pay 350 + tax and use the phone to pay the rest of the money with wind tab and you are set if you really want Wind compatible phone.
I had the same problem and dilemma like you as I had a Desire Z with Bell and wanted to use it on Wind, ended up trading it with G2 from T-Mobile and used Wind mobile 3G network and Rogers 2G/Edge network up until now(I am with Rogers and have got a better deal with them for data, so no need to carry two phones on me anymore )
Hope this helps.
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Will the i9020A version of the Nexus S (which is I think the model sold by Koodo Mobile in Canada) get 3G connection on the AWS spectrum used by Mobilicity? (I believe this should be the same as TMobile)?
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it will not work
you need i9020T not A
AWS only comes on the i9020T
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I am in canada, just bought NS finally, that too from Koodo, and it is ...
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Hope this helps.
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Thanks so much. That explains it very clearly. I guess I'll need to shell out a bit extra and get a phone from Wind or Mobilicity.
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Go for it bud... u wont regret...
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So I ordered a new, sealed I9020A from eBay. Arrived today (I'm out of town) and my wife took a photo of the box. It's a model GT-I9020FSRRWC, which is a Canadian variant of the Nexus S with compatible US 3G bands (AT&T). Here is my question:
I have had several I9020A's in the past here in the US. All had horribly slow 3G data and I returned all three of them because of this. Now, I know that Best Buy is subsidizing an I9020A variant for AT&T, making the model "sanctioned" on AT&T. I have to believe the radio & firmware for that model works seamlessly with AT&T's network (which the Canadian I9020A's don't). I know I can flash the radio from KB1 to KB3 or something similar, but would applying the firmware for the following make it identical to what Best Buy is selling as the official AT&T variant?
GTJ61 - Android 2.3.4, the original Nexus S firmware for the US version of I9020A.
From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
Basically, I want the identical firmware and radio as the units sold for AT&T by Best Buy on my Canadian device because I don't want to deal with any network funkiness. It's maddeningly frustrating...
Thanks.
I've tried the new AT&T modem, it's still speed hobbled. For some reason, all modems that come with the i9020a have a capped transfer rate. I've flashed the KB3 radio from the i9020T series and i can now easily reach over 2 megs on the upload.
the KB3 modem also deadens the search button bug a lot.
Hmm, not the news I had hoped for. I'll give it a shot...thanks.
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So does anyone know the difference between the GT-I9020A and GT-I9020FSRRWC?
Thanks!
use the HSPA build.prop tweaks from the radio thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116884 with KF1 radio you should have normal speeds so long as its not a hardware issue
I'm going to buy a Nexus S. I see there are couple versions and I don't know which one should I choose.
Those questions are about GSM version : GT-I9020A and GT-I9020T
What are the differences between 2 version ?
Which one can I use on T-Mobile ? (Does it support 3G / 4G ?)
Is it possible to get (official) Jelly Bean on Nexus S ?
i9020 have an amoled screen, and i9023 have a slcd screen. Nexus S 4G supports 4g not the other ones
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There's no word on JB from what I've seen yet for the NS. Just wait and see. You want the 9020t version for TMo. The 9020a is the AT&T variant.
Can you change the Modem
If you get a AT&T model can you install the T-Mobile modem on it and still get 4G service?
Honestly don't know. I know my friend has an old iPhone from AT&T, but he can only use 2G because the 3G bands or whatever are different. I'd assume it would be the same for the Nexus S. But like I said, I don't have a solid answer for it.
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If you get a AT&T model can you install the T-Mobile modem on it and still get 4G service?
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No.
So I have a Nexus s that I got from best buy for AT&T and I recently dropped AT&T for T mobile. I'm trying to update my nexus to 4.1 and I keep getting the status 7 error. My version was and still is I9020A and that's the update version I tried. Do I need to use the T mobile one even though its different? Just trying not to brick my phone. Sorry if this is a little confusing. Sorta new to this.
Thanks!
The rom for the i9020A is the same rom for the i9020T. You are getting that error because your Clockworkmod recovery is old, update it.
You can also flash the factory image from here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Please let us know if you get 3G on Tmobile with it and what area you're in.
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The radio is the only difference. I9020A runs on 850/1900 while I9020T runs on 900/1700/2100.
So you won't get HSPA on your phone, only EDGE if you have I9020A on T-Mobile.
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The radio is the only difference. I9020A runs on 850/1900 while I9020T runs on 900/1700/2100.
So you won't get HSPA on your phone, only EDGE if you have I9020A on T-Mobile.
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Actually at some location T-Mobile sim works with 1900 band now, due to the deal after the failed buyout by ATT. I got 3G on T-Mobile using an unlocked Captivate.