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Benchmark: Asus P535/Asus P565/HTC Diamond/O2 XDA Flame

All Benchmarks are done using my own devices with the same performance tweaks.
All images are also available in the zip file below.

WOW. THANK YOU.
How come the graphics score was low on the P565? Does that mean it does not play videos well?

fine this is the fastest pda, but the build quailty is awful and the "glide" is ugly and slow. why am i so stupid to buy this instead of htc (i.e 3g)

the asus scores are like 2 generations ahead of the htc. htc needs to really do something about their sad performance. not even the cookers can help.

Benchmark the tf700

I saw that there were no official benchmark threads here so I thought I'd post my results and everyone can do the same here.
This the procedure I used and the same procedure you should use in order to obtain little deviation from the mean:
Make sure the device is on performance mode
1) clear your recent apps
2) have an app close your background apps (I used Asus own widget that says "one click clean")
3) run your benchmark
These are the scores I got on my stock 4.0.3 tf700:
Sunspider = 1356.9ms
V8 benchmark = 1719
Quadrant = 4407 (cpu=14354 mem=4019 i/o=1225 2d=175 3d=2260)
Antutu = 13443 (cpu=8340 ram=3022 gpu=1405 i/o=676)
Nenamark 1= 58.9fps
Nenamark 2 = 38.3fps
Smartbench and sql I omitted bc the results were way off (2 yr old phones were outperforming our tablet).
I like the Quadrant and Antutu benchmarks bc I think these two give the best results and show the bottleneck in our beloved TF700T (i/o) and the beast that is the tegra3. The i/o of the tf700 if pretty pathetic. My atrix which is 1.5yrs old doubles the tf700 in the i/o department. Despite that downfall the TF700T is still the best and strongest tab on the market.
I'll leave it up to you guys to decide if the 2d in Quadrant makes any sense to u guys. 175 seems pretty bad. Also the gpu seems pretty meek. But I am a novice and I can't decipher Benchmarks like u guys can.
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gutts10 said:
I saw that there were no official benchmark threads here so I thought I'd post my results and everyone can do the same here.
This the procedure I used and the same procedure you should use in order to obtain little deviation from the mean:
1) clear your recent apps
2) have an app close your background apps (I used Asus own widget that says "one click clean")
3) run your benchmark
These are the scores I got on my stock 4.0.3 tf700:
Sunspider = 1356.9ms
V8 benchmark = 1719
Quadrant = 4407 (cpu=14354 mem=4019 i/o=1225 2d=175 3d=2260)
Antutu = 13443 (cpu=8340 ram=3022 gpu=1405 i/o=676)
Nenamark 1= 58.9fps
Nenamark 2 = 38.3fps
Smartbench and sql I omitted bc the results were way off (2 yr old phones were outperforming our tablet).
I like the Quadrant and Antutu benchmarks bc I think these two give the best results and show the bottleneck in our beloved TF700T (i/o) and the beast that is the tegra3. The i/o of the tf700 if pretty pathetic. My atrix which is 1.5yrs old doubles the tf700 in the i/o department. Despite that downfall the TF700T is still the best and strongest tab on the market.
I'll leave it up to you guys to decide if the 2d in Quadrant makes any sense to u guys. 175 seems pretty bad. Also the gpu seems pretty meek. But I am a novice and I can't decipher Benchmarks like u guys can.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
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It's actually interesting you got 1300's on Sunspider because many sites were more like 1800 and when I had the device. In fact, Galaxy Note has 1300's and that the one of reason I thought browser speed on the Galaxy Note was faster than the Infinity (though benchmark is just benchmark but it at least showed the # difference of what I experienced, but may be you got really good unit and I had bad units).
I would personally add RL Benchmark and Androbenchmark as those #'s reflected the fact stock I/O on infinity being much slower than other devices, and perhaps explanation of the frequent ANR on infinity vs. Note's 20's RL score without a single ANR (for past 2 & 1/2 weeks). Though given custom rom had fixed RL score on Infinity down to 19, the infinity can definitely get down to the same level but not on current stock.

Look again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807909

Samsung Caught Manipulating Galaxy S4 Benchmark Results (I9500)

I found that while browsing news so I though I'd share it here.. I'm disappointed because Samsung actually cheating us. :/
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Smartphone benchmarks never really indicate how a device will ultimately perform, yet tech enthusiasts exalt results like they’re the end all, be all. Check any review; the nebulous collection of numbers are always held in high regard despite them never really doing much to affect the overall experience. Still, companies take them quite seriously—in Samsung’s case, a little too seriously.
According to a new report from AnandTech, Samsung might be fibbing its way to more favorable Galaxy S4 benchmarks. Has your device suddenly come to a crawl? Of course it hasn’t; benchmarks shouldn’t change your perception of a flagship as powerful as the S4. Still, it’s embarrassing that Samsung would resort to such technical tactics, like allegedly using code dubbed “BenchmarkBooster.” Yes, your device takes steroids.
AnandTech found that Samsung set the GPU of the Exynos 5 Galaxy S4 to run higher when benchmarked—higher than normal everyday use. When engineers tested the device, the S4’s Exynos 5 ran at 533MHz during benchmarking, and only ran at 480MHz during regular use. Not an enormous difference, but large enough to call shenanigans.
In addition, AnandTech found that when running CPU benchmarks with apps such as AnTuTu and Quadrant, the device’s Cortex A15 clocked at 1.2GHz; an unofficial benchmarking app, GFXBench 2, revealed that the device actually runs at 500MHz when it’s not juicing. Seems fishy, no?
AnandTech’s findings should in no way effect your final opinion on the Galaxy S4, though it does highlight some shady Samsung tactics. It’s likely the Korean company isn’t the only one to fib benchmarking tests, though; the company is just the one that got caught
Source : http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/07/30/samsung-caught-manipulating-galaxy-s4-benchmark-results/

Gsmarena clearly stated that Samsung is Cheater?
They played the game with the emotion of common consumer...and ...now i am thoroughly dissapointed by Sammy's behaviour

The manipulation of Benchmarks for me confirms the rumors about the Octacore:
SamMobile News from 30 May 2013
Regards

Tanis64 said:
The manipulation of Benchmarks for me confirms the rumors about the Octacore:
SamMobile News from 30 May 2013
Regards
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So they released an unfinished chip into the market. Only reason could be marketing. The look at us we have eight core phones angle. People go wow eight is more than four and buy it. So lame.
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Already mentioned by @AndreiLux few decades ago.
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LegendJo said:
I found that while browsing news so I though I'd share it here.. I'm disappointed because Samsung actually cheating us. :/
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So is Intel cheating you to when the Intel Core i5-2500k CPU have anormal speed of 3.3 GHz, but have a turbo speed of 3.7 GHz?

Tom-Helge said:
So is Intel cheating you to when the Intel Core i5-2500k CPU have anormal speed of 3.3 GHz, but have a turbo speed of 3.7 GHz?
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if that speed is only available if your running prime95 or intel burn then....yep.
You can't compare the two, they are totally different.

Tom-Helge said:
So is Intel cheating you to when the Intel Core i5-2500k CPU have anormal speed of 3.3 GHz, but have a turbo speed of 3.7 GHz?
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No, because Intel didn't mislead anyone. Samsung clearly did.

yeahmann said:
No, because Intel didn't mislead anyone. Samsung clearly did.
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Really??
Have you not read this research paper?
http://www.abiresearch.com/press/intel-apps-processor-outperforms-nvidia-qualcomm-s
A modified version of AnTuTu was used to cheat in benchmark.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318857
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2330027

CLARiiON said:
Really??
Have you not read this research paper?
http://www.abiresearch.com/press/intel-apps-processor-outperforms-nvidia-qualcomm-s
A modified version of AnTuTu was used to cheat in benchmark.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318857
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2330027
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That paper had nothing to do with what he's saying. Turbo is still valid and not misleading.
Secondly, you can blame AnTuTu, not Intel, for that benchmark discrepancy. And then again it was only due to compiler change and no actual cheating per se in the conventional matter.

CLARiiON said:
Really??
Have you not read this research paper?
http://www.abiresearch.com/press/intel-apps-processor-outperforms-nvidia-qualcomm-s
A modified version of AnTuTu was used to cheat in benchmark.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1318857
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2330027
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From Exophase:
But frankly, I blame AnTuTu in all of this. They allowed themselves to be manipulated (probably for a price), despite constantly warning against other people cheating their numbers. I don't know if they're displaying a complete lack of integrity or a complete lack of understanding of how their own software works, or something in between the two, but whatever the case I hope they lose all credibility and whatever revenue the program brings them.
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[Q] TF300T - F2FS or ext4 when setting up with Kit Kat Kat Kiss

I have had my TF101 for just over three years, and had an opportunity to pick up the TF300T with dock pretty cheap. I'm planning to unlock and install Kit Kat Kat Kiss (Thanks TimDuru). I have read a bit about the F2FS being better than the ext4 setup on the TF300T.
Could some of you who have used both tell me what you think. Is it worth setting the tablet up with F2FS from the get go? Will I see noticeable improvements in operation day to day? I'm not really concerned with where the benchmark scores look, but much more with the day to day feel and usage.
Thanks in advance,
Donald

Dunno about Kat Kiss, but the tablet runs awesome with OmniROM, grimlock kernel and f2fs. The main problem of this tablet is cheap memory modules with horrible i/o speeds, it really bottlenecks the performance of the device and gives you hellish lag, so transition to f2fs will make your tablet noticeably snappier. It won't be ideal and totally butter-smooth anyway because thanks asus, but waaaaaay better than without it. So yes, I really do reccomend you to switch on f2fs as soon as you get the device

Thanks for the response. Actually was thinking of running a few benchmarks starting from stock ICS to stock jellybean both with ext4. After that root and ROM and repeat with f2fs. May be a few days till I get around to it.

Benchmarks are rubbish, they won't show you the real situation with performance. Although you can test i/o speeds on ext and f2fs, they should increase.
Also, I heard that tablet runs great with stock ICS but it's a bit of a pain in the ass to flash it.

"hellish lag"? Not seeing any hellish lag running KatKiss and ext4.

Depends on what you consider to be hellish You can make your tablet work just ok but for a device with a quad-core cpu overclockable up to 1.7Ghz it should work better. I remember tablet with stock 4.2 ROM giving me almost the same interface stutter as my old HTC Wildfire S with CM10. Now go to wikipedia and check out the hardware of the phone :silly:
Anyway, cheap ass memory really is the problem and there is nothing we can do about it. Just check your read-write speeds and compare them to other devices - they are low, disbalanced, and the memory performance can significantly drop over time.

Sviborg2241 said:
Depends on what you consider to be hellish You can make your tablet work just ok but for a device with a quad-core cpu overclockable up to 1.7Ghz it should work better. I remember tablet with stock 4.2 ROM giving me almost the same interface stutter as my old HTC Wildfire S with CM10. Now go to wikipedia and check out the hardware of the phone :silly:
Anyway, cheap ass memory really is the problem and there is nothing we can do about it. Just check your read-write speeds and compare them to other devices - they are low, disbalanced, and the memory performance can significantly drop over time.
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I don't think there's any issue with "cheap memory". It's the first time I've heard someone claim this for the TF300. If there is any issue, it's the fact Tegra 3 is old technology, and was never great to begin with. I have a stack of tablets home, and the closest one I have to the TF300 is the 2012 Nexus 7. The hardware is almost identical, but the TF300 easily beats in in Antutu when clocked at the same speed. The DDR3 in the TF300 is also faster than the DDR2 in the higher end TF201.

just lou said:
I don't think there's any issue with "cheap memory". It's the first time I've heard someone claim this for the TF300. If there is any issue, it's the fact Tegra 3 is old technology, and was never great to begin with. I have a stack of tablets home, and the closest one I have to the TF300 is the 2012 Nexus 7. The hardware is almost identical, but the TF300 easily beats in in Antutu when clocked at the same speed. The DDR3 in the TF300 is also faster than the DDR2 in the higher end TF201.
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It's not about RAM, it's about internal flash memory. Google it, the problem affects transformer prime as well. Some links with more info:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/
http://jaredleonmorgan.blogspot.com/2013/08/upgrading-emmc-in-transformer-tf300t-to.html
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...n/32988-tf300t-jb-4-1-1-oficial-slow-i-o.html
I'll post a comparsion between i/o speeds on N5 and tf300 a bit later
Edit: ok, take a look. Both tests were made on 4.4.4 ROMs, ART, deadline scheduler. The results without f2fs on tf300 were a bit worse back that time i was on ext4
http://i.imgur.com/OgomltN.png
http://i.imgur.com/ENQZpBY.png

Am I supposed to be surprised an N5 smokes the T300?

just lou said:
Am I supposed to be surprised an N5 smokes the T300?
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Dude, this test only measures internal storage speed, not overall performance

No kidding, The N5' s memory bandwidth is many times faster than the TF300. It still has nothing to do with "cheap ass memory".

just lou said:
No kidding, The N5' s memory bandwidth is many times faster than the TF300. It still has nothing to do with "cheap ass memory".
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So maybe you should check the links I posted before, where it was tested along with other devices with more similar specs? Gosh you are a stubborn guy

I'm stubborn? lol. You're the one going out of your way to prove and an old tablet was built with "cheap ass memory".
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I just try to prove my point of view with an actual information and tests, not just "I think so and I'm right"
anyway it's not the point of this thread and it's up to you to be ok with your tablet

Sviborg2241 said:
I just try to prove my point of view with an actual information and tests, not just "I think so and I'm right"
anyway it's not the point of this thread and it's up to you to be ok with your tablet
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What happened to, and I quote:" Benchmarks are rubbish, they won't show you the real situation with performance"? You can't pick and choose only to post them when they support your point of view. My "real situation and performance" is that I don't have the " hellish lag " you claim to have. I accept the tablet for what it is. Old hardware built with the disappointing Tegra 3 architecture.

just lou said:
What happened to, and I quote:" Benchmarks are rubbish, they won't show you the real situation with performance"? You can't pick and choose only to post them when they support your point of view. My "real situation and performance" is that I don't have the " hellish lag " you claim to have. I accept the tablet for what it is. Old hardware built with the disappointing Tegra 3 architecture.
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Oh man sorry, about benchmarks. I meant stuff like antutu or whatever, when people tend to think that points in such apps directly show you the level of the device performance, although a rom with ~17000 points in antutu could have the same level of performance with ~12000 points rom on the same device. I tried to use the app that directly measures i/o speeds of the memory chips and nothing else and prove that the device really has the problem with it compared to other devices. Sorry for misunderstanding
I just hope that someone will find something useful about our arguing, peace! :silly:

I'm not arguing. I'm having fun,
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Interesting conversation that has come up from my question. I understand that the RAM is older and that some people have complained about the write speed. I suppose I was looking for more about how the ext4 versus F2FS perform and how people feel about it.
That being said, My TF300T was delivered yesterday while I was at work. I put a full charge on the tablet and on the dock. Once that was done I powered everything up. It was shipped with the 4.1 flavor of Jellybean, So I couldn't do any testing of the ICS as benchmarking. In looking up the ICS release specs, I found the Antutu score to be 10,271. I took the 4.2 update and ran a couple benchmarks on it before doing the fun stuff. The 4.2 score on my TF300T showed at 10,417. After that I unlocked, pushed the F2FS TWRP 2.7 to it as the recovery and then installed the KatKiss Kit Kat ROM along with the appropriate F2FS kernel and the Banks Mininal GAPPS. I ran the Antutu again after rebooting and wiping cache and Dalvik. I came up with a score of 18,512. Interestingly I had a friends TF300T at the house which is also running the KatKiss Kit Kat ROM using the ext4 formatting. Hers scored 18,677.
All of that being said, I understand the benchmarks don't tell the whole story. I know that the write speed can be an important comparison. I know that in my case the ext4 did score just slightly higher. In sitting with both tablets in front of me, the one with F2FS just felt more snappy/quicker to respond to commands. Apps when pressed at the same time seem to load a bit faster on the F2FS. I don't think it is a matter of the tablet with ext4 being more bogged down or so on. It was set up roughly a week before my new one arrived. both tablets have roughly the same apps loaded on them.
All in all so far I am very pleased with the move from the TF101 to the TF300T, and especially for the price. I know it's not the newest/latest/greatest tablet out there and I was ok with that when I made the decision to snag it. I like the quadcore processor and the additional on board storage space (my TF101 was the 16gb variety).
As I play with it more, I'll see if there are lags or other annoyances.
BTW, does anyone have the stock TF300T Asus widgets like the weather and email ones? I enjoyed having them on the TF101, though the weather never seemed to work quite right.
Thanks,
Donald

USCJustice said:
BTW, does anyone have the stock TF300T Asus widgets like the weather and email ones? I enjoyed having them on the TF101, though the weather never seemed to work quite right.
Thanks,
Donald
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You can try these, but they haven't been updated in a long time and I have no idea if they'll work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586517
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Thanks for the link. I will give them a try.

Nexus Player Benchmarks (Antutu)

Never really been to keen on benchmarks, but curiosity got the best of me. Just in case anyone else is interested, I managed to sideload Antutu on my Nexus Player and ran a benchmark on it. I attached screenshots of the results.

Thank you, this look good but I think the Fire Tv is faster ?
Also how did you get the Screenshot with you Nexus Player?

inwisso said:
Thank you, this look good but I think the Fire Tv is faster ?
Also how did you get the Screenshot with you Nexus Player?
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I'm not sure about the Fire TV, and I don't have one to test it. As far as the screenshots, I used ADB to take them.
adb shell screencap -p /path/to/filename.png

Faster than Fire TV. I found a review that states 25673 on Antutu for Fire TV - although Antutu is not that reliable, would be nice to compare all the results.

Well... I've never really trusted benchmarks anyway, but if there's a different benchmarking app that you'd like to see, I can sideload it and post the results.

brandon_edge1994 said:
Well... I've never really trusted benchmarks anyway, but if there's a different benchmarking app that you'd like to see, I can sideload it and post the results.
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Fire TV results

So it looks like the memory is twice as fast, nice. And both GPU and CPU are better. FireTV was already quite fast for my uses and runs my games at 60FPS, so Nexus Player should run them without any problems, maybe I could even raise the level of details a bit in them (those are 2D games, so they don't have that high demands on the hardware). :good: Thanks for the results.

Badass the NP performs as well as the nexus 5