I dont understand since Im not a dev but why is it that sometimes the updates have more problems than older builds. So an update is not always what its cracked up to be. Is this from fixing one bug which causes other bugs that the devs dont see till its released ?
Dano79 said:
I dont understand since Im not a dev but why is it that sometimes the updates have more problems than older builds. So an update is not always what its cracked up to be. Is this from fixing one bug which causes other bugs that the devs dont see till its released ?
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A lot of it is because htc f*cked several things up in the RUU's - the only 100% stable one I have seen is the Tmous one. Also because of the scripts like deodexing and other apk optimization scripts some devs use, random bugs can be introduced.
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Hey XDA, this is my first rom its just a basic compile of AOSP, very slow and buggy at this stage i'm afraid, but figured you guys would want to see it in the flesh and hopefully i will be making it run alot quicker in the near future.
To install:
1) Wipe / Data / Cache
2) flash Pryon_Gingerbread.zip
3) flash 2708 kernel found here: http://droidbasement.com/g1/kernels/ram/2635/18/boot-cm_2635.9_ds_32b-oc-uv-xtra-ram-fp-121510.zip
4) Boot Gingerbread.
v.03 COMING SOON
12/21/2010 v.02
LINK :: http://www.4shared.com/file/HCuuugqE/pryon_gingerbread_v02.html
12/19/2010 (first release) v.01
:: Change log:: v.02
Added Gapps that doesn't crash rom
Added Busybox and Toolbox
Google Sync should be working now
Added Facebook
Slightly faster but still very buggy and not a daily rom.
WiFi Fixed also should work with mytouch now.
firsstt....to reserve for future commenting lol
well... if wifi and gapps were working..it mite b good for many to atleast download n try n bug reporting
I thought AOSP was suppose to be fast?
Working on WiFi now, bug reports would be good, although there's to many to count
2.2 AOSP seemed a whole lot faster then 2.3 but this is just a start and also this is the first time i have cooked a rom worth releasing so be patient please speed takes time + I'm new to all this
Can you please post some screen shots? and btw, have you fixed wi-fi in this build or are you planning on a ver .2 ? And yes, can I please have a list of what's actually working? I know its all too much to ask for but I guess these questions will help understand this AOSP for G1 more.
Thanks in advance
Compiling a new build now with jit and a few extras, also hopefully WiFi should be up and running, anyways will be a update tomorrow.
Dominating said:
Compiling a new build now with jit and a few extras, also hopefully WiFi should be up and running, anyways will be a update tomorrow.
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You may be interested in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9930562&postcount=23
camera works .. (still a long list of other glaring issues thus why I have no binary)
oh cheers ezterry, syncing now i think i'm pretty close to camera built on my compile but I've always had trouble with the camera stub := false cammands.
Looking forward to future updates
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Photos and benchmarks would be nice. I'm a flash-o-holic as it is, but I wanna start using my phone. Seems like every week I'm switching to another rom. So I'm sticking to what I got.
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Photos and benchmarks would be nice. I'm a flash-o-holic as it is, but I wanna start using my phone. Seems like every week I'm switching to another rom. So I'm sticking to what I got.
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Um dunno if you read the whole post, but bro said this ain't fast and is buggy, and to top it off he said he's new to this. Soo it can't really be a daily driver. I'm using that CM6 gingerbread mock up, which I like and its been fine for days on end, don't do much on it but I have the new radio w/ 15 or 14 ram hack, firerats aio-script, and new market, don't use data but use wifi, and I almost have half battery by the end of the day and that's about a good ten hours for me. Dunno what's good for you, but I recommend. But really use common sense and read the op. You can keep up on the progress or support the cause and help out and give a bug report
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Today 0.2?
cctv35 said:
Today 0.2?
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Hopefully
Although right now i'm not using the ROM i'm eager to see some progress
Does it work on Magic 32B too ?
I'm interested in this!
Btw how is the 3d working on your build ?
Sorry guys had a real busy day yesterday didn't get much done but before i head out christmas shopping i'll try and get the next release fixed wifi and hopefully some gapps will be included.
does this have the gingerbread screen off animation?
not entirely sure whats the difference between the two?
kyhassen said:
not entirely sure whats the difference between the two?
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I'm a sense guy,so not much exp. with cm. My foggy memory believes that cm7(rc for release canidate) is ready for everyday use public consumption. Nightlies are built by(here's where my memory goes! Gimme a break I'm old!) a bot which fixes and changes things,which may or may not break other things. That about the extent of my knowledge on this. The experts on this should be on they're way. lol
I'm no expert but the cm7 stable is android 2.3.3 the cm7 rc-1 is 2.3.4 the latest nightlies are 2.3.5.. I recommend the nightlies, they are more stable in many ways than the stable version of.. The latest is #179
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This is standard software development stuff.
"Nightlies" are like alpha level software containing the absolute latest bug fixes and new features for an existing program with little or no testing outside of the developers. Whether the various features and fixes are compiled by a daemon or not is irrelevant. Some nightlies are very stable with few bugs, some are bug riddled garbage. I'm currently using the CM7 nightly from 9-1, and I've found it to be very stable and only had one or two small issues.
The experimental releases are release candidates, which is just a friendly term for a late stage beta. Generally, they may contain more bugs than what should be released, but the developers released them into the wild because they believed the to be close to ready for release and needed more people would test them.
A Stable version is just that, stable. It has been extensively tested and either has no bugs, or has only minor bugs that have all been well documented.
Which should you use?
You've got a few sensible options.
a. Stick to stable releases. You'll miss out on the latest and greatest developments, but your shift will be as stable and reliable as possible.
b. Install every nightly as they come out. (they don't actually come out every night, we haven't had a new one since 9-1) If you get a bad one, which happens, just roll back to the last one that worked for you. You will spend a lot of time messing with your phone and will have to deal with bugs, but you'll always get to try out the latest and greatest. Just be sure that when you have bugs, you share useful bug reports with the developers.
c. Start with the stable. If you find there are things broken that you don't want to miss, go through the changelogs and forums to find a more or less stable nightly that has what you're missing and move to it. Stay there until there's another stable release.
wow thank you guys for the usefull information. I'm normally a sense rom guy so this is kinda a new ball game for me. I decided to go with this due to I hear its way faster and has more space .
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Where has everyone gone?
The dev forum is usually hopping with lots of updates to all of the Roms and people asking questions and everything.... there has been little to no action at all lately...
has everyone left for a new phone?
clninja said:
Where has everyone gone?
The dev forum is usually hopping with lots of updates to all of the Roms and people asking questions and everything.... there has been little to no action at all lately...
has everyone left for a new phone?
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Looks that way, I'm sure after the Amaze and GS2 release it will die even more
The phone is getting old. Going on 6 months, that's ancient!
Well, people have lives outside of XDA. haha
Don't forget ICS is coming out in a little more than a month. I'm sure once that happens, development will pick back up again.
Also, there are only so many things you can do to a rom. Most of the roms here work perfectly. There are a few bugs in some (such as a2dp on 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 based roms) that probably won't ever get fixed because nvidia will not release their source code. (And before everyone jumps up complaining, they are under no legal obligation to do so. They come from the video card world, and it's VERY cut-throat, they don't release their sources because they don't want competitors seeing how they do things.) But once you get the rom running perfectly as a daily driver, what's there to update? With the exception of cm7 nightlies and miui "weeklies", minus minor bug fixes, there isn't really too much more to update.
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Don't forget ICS is coming out in a little more than a month. I'm sure once that happens, development will pick back up again.
Also, there are only so many things you can do to a rom. Most of the roms here work perfectly. There are a few bugs in some (such as a2dp on 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 based roms) that probably won't ever get fixed because nvidia will not release their source code. (And before everyone jumps up complaining, they are under no legal obligation to do so. They come from the video card world, and it's VERY cut-throat, they don't release their sources because they don't want competitors seeing how they do things.) But once you get the rom running perfectly as a daily driver, what's there to update? With the exception of cm7 nightlies and miui "weeklies", minus minor bug fixes, there isn't really too much more to update.
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well said. I'm really looking forward to ICS, I hope it's easy for developers to port it over.
I think the majority of people are waiting on the new Nexus or the Galaxy S II.
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I think the majority of people are waiting on the new Nexus or the Galaxy S II.
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+1 I know I am.
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PikkonX said:
I think the majority of people are waiting on the new Nexus or the Galaxy S II.
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I think majority of the people came from HD2 that has a LOT of devs...
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That's where I was spoiled rotten. An HD2 update every couple of days and a WHOLE bunch of dev working at it. G2x has some pretty stable stuff. It's getting this FFC stuff fixed....
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/htc-admits-some-androids-leak-wi-fi-passwords-1059847?src=rss&attr=all
It seems a pretty big bug. I am wondering if it affects people with custom ROMs?
I have CM7 and just curios if it would behave the same.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/03/htc-acknowledges-wifi-security-flaw-says-it-deliberately-kept-i/
HTC has released a fix Only a matter of time till we get it (PS - AOSP ROMs don't have it at all, if Sense ROMs do, it'll be fixed soon)
Who else agrees that the developer forum needs some rejuvenation? It seems very slow there with no substantial recent releases..
And also, by the time ICS is officially released at the end of march, I feel that the recent releases of high-performance HTC phones (such as the velocity 4G, etc. here in Australia) will also slow development on the Sensation as the devs move on to the newer phones. Hopefully this wont be the case though
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Who else agrees that the developer forum needs some rejuvenation? It seems very slow there with no substantial recent releases..
And also, by the time ICS is officially released at the end of march, I feel that the recent releases of high-performance HTC phones (such as the velocity 4G, etc. here in Australia) will also slow development on the Sensation as the devs move on to the newer phones. Hopefully this wont be the case though
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You're kidding right? We've had ICS for months now..
Uh, are you on the right planet? Virtuous Inquisition, InsertCoin 4.0.3, and tons more...
I mean the full ICS release, not the beta
Where all the bugs are gone (hopefully), kernel sources are released and more stability is with us
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I mean the full ICS release, not the beta
Where all the bugs are gone (hopefully), kernel sources are released and more stability is with us
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HTC is releasing the official sensation build in a week. There's no point in working on leaks when a stable build is going to be released soon.
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HTC is releasing the official sensation build in a week. There's no point in working on leaks when a stable build is going to be released soon.
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That's kinda what I've been trying to say, we need the full ICS release for more substantial development to occur lol
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Who else agrees that the developer forum needs some rejuvenation? It seems very slow there with no substantial recent releases..
And also, by the time ICS is officially released at the end of march, I feel that the recent releases of high-performance HTC phones (such as the velocity 4G, etc. here in Australia) will also slow development on the Sensation as the devs move on to the newer phones. Hopefully this wont be the case though
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I feel obliged to respond to the first bit to that.
1. We can't improve on the bugs HTC had in test RUU's but we can add in features and fix some stuff, for instance dice app not working on XE base. I fixed that on my ROM, slow SD-card speed, baadnewz fixed, APM capychimp did, leedroid tweaks j4n87 did so how you can say developement is slow I don't know, all you need to do is look in change log foe ROM's (mine was updated a few days ago with some pretty serious fixes)
Come on dude, we are all working on stuff but we also have jobs and lives outside xda
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Jonny said:
I fixed that on my ROM, slow SD-card speed, baadnewz fixed, APM capychimp did, leedroid tweaks j4n87 did so how you can say developement is slow I don't know, all you need to do is look in change log foe ROM's (mine was updated a few days ago with some pretty serious fixes)
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I hadn't realised this.. I've only been on a few roms and stock with the beta ICS, as I assumed that the bugs that are in the test build can't be fixed yet. I'm sorry for being ignorant but hopefully the full release will help devs such as yourself by having alot less bugs for you to deal with
Our development scene isn't that bad compared to some phones and new phones doesn't mean development automatically stops. My last two phones nexus one and desire HD still have active development going on even though the phones are getting old now.
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and what bugs? the most recent leak is as good as any official release I can remember.
devs always move on - new devices attract people to buy them etc.
we've probably got 6 - 12 months of solid development left imho.
look out for sense 4 being available on our device once the Ville rom leaks.