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Is there a easy way to root the phone

root method in the development section seems to be very complicated. has anyone been able to find a better way to root ?

vikramdhani said:
root method in the development section seems to be very complicated. has anyone been able to find a better way to root ?
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It's actually a very easy process. All you have to do is follow simple directions. It sounds like you may not be ready to root your device. I knew nothing when I started, but jumped in head first and came out the other side better.
Just check the stickies in the dev section its almost noob proof honestly. And its pretty hard to brick this device if you follow directions.
Maybe if I tell you the main steps it may make more sense.
First, use revolutionary or HTC unlock to get the right bootloader. Revolutionary actually flashes recovery for you too.
Second, flash recovery... Either use revolutionary or use adb (theres tons of guides)
Third, either root the stock Rom by flashing su in recovery (you can get the correct file from Rom manager) OR just flash a custom Rom and they come rooted.
Of course each step has a few steps involved but really nothing a small bit of research can't fix.
Sorry if I sound a bit like a jerk but it really is kinda easy.... Intimidating at first but easy.
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Question about recovery. I have come from the HD2 to the sensation. The CWM on the HD2 was quite advanced. They had re-arranged the Yes No menu options to have one Yes and one No. For example do you want to install upgrade zip file. If you selected it, Rather than scrolling through all the no's to get to yes, you had yes first then no.
It is one thing I find annoying with CWM for the sensation and was wondering is there an update, or could a CWM from the HD2 be used on the sensation?

GhostXSeries said:
Question about recovery. I have come from the HD2 to the sensation. The CWM on the HD2 was quite advanced. They had re-arranged the Yes No menu options to have one Yes and one No. For example do you want to install upgrade zip file. If you selected it, Rather than scrolling through all the no's to get to yes, you had yes first then no.
It is one thing I find annoying with CWM for the sensation and was wondering is there an update, or could a CWM from the HD2 be used on the sensation?
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Personally I don't use cwm anymore. I use 4ext touch recovery and its amazing, not a single problem yet. It's so cool to use the touchscreen in recovery. Also twrp v.1 fixed that repetitive yes and no problem too. But no there isn't any way to change that in cwm right now.
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ClockworkMod Recovery Touch on Inspire 4G?

Has anyone tried the touch recovery on an Inspire?
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
There's only a DHD version and my understanding from the ICS development threads is that DHD and Inspire have different touch screen drivers?

Elbob10s said:
Has anyone tried the touch recovery on an Inspire?
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
There's only a DHD version and my understanding from the ICS development threads is that DHD and Inspire have different touch screen drivers?
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Didn't know CWM had a touch recovery out. Very cool.
Try it, the worst that will happen is you'll have to flash a different version of recovery on top of it. I haven't heard anything about the DHD and Inspire having different touch screen drivers, they're the same device. 4EXT Touch works on the Inspire and I believe the version is a DHD version

homeslice976 said:
Didn't know CWM had a touch recovery out. Very cool.
Try it, the worst that will happen is you'll have to flash a different version of recovery on top of it. I haven't heard anything about the DHD and Inspire having different touch screen drivers, they're the same device. 4EXT Touch works on the Inspire and I believe the version is a DHD version
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We have different screens (atmel vs synaptics). When 4ext touch came out their was a brief moment where touch accuracy was an issue compared to our dhd brothers.
Same thing occurred with the ice devoloment

marsdta said:
We have different screens (atmel vs synaptics). When 4ext touch came out their was a brief moment where touch accuracy was an issue compared to our dhd brothers.
Same thing occurred with the ice devoloment
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ah...guess I didn't stay up on those issues well enough

So, I flashed it, and I can confirm that it works. However, compared to 4Ext Touch, 4Ext takes the cake.

Joshp406 said:
So, I flashed it, and I can confirm that it works. However, compared to 4Ext Touch, 4Ext takes the cake.
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I would hold judgement on a comparison for now. From what I understand, the CWM touch is still in beta. I'm sure it will improve when the "official" version is done.

marsdta said:
We have different screens (atmel vs synaptics). When 4ext touch came out their was a brief moment where touch accuracy was an issue compared to our dhd brothers.
Same thing occurred with the ice devoloment
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I have actually had the opportunity to replace digitizers in a A9191, Inspire A9192, and a Telus Desire HD A9192. All 3 models had synaptics digitizers and were replaced with the same. I have heard that the atmel digitizer was found in A9191's and A9192's but I have yet to see one.
Edit: Ironic here. My personal Telus Desire HD has not had the digitizer replaced. But I just checked it with Elixir and I would be damned to see that it is reported as having an atmel touchscreen. Now I want to take it apart to verify for myself. lol

Touch works amazingly for me. No issues.

Anyone getting server issues right now while trying to download?

Joshp406 said:
So, I flashed it, and I can confirm that it works. However, compared to 4Ext Touch, 4Ext takes the cake.
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4EXT FTW
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod

esiedlecki said:
Touch works amazingly for me. No issues.
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I'm using it right now...I love not having to volume mash.
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Works like a charm for me.

Used it enough to know that it's stable and functional. Not currently, but have recently...
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how do you flash it? when i tried fastboot flash recovery touchimage.img it failed

kormsbee said:
how do you flash it? when i tried fastboot flash recovery touchimage.img it failed
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To install it that way you need eng S-OFF. You need to flash a PD98IMG.zip, but make sure you have the .txt file as well. In the Hack Kit folder is an example of recovery.
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alternative method for 4EXT recovery: download 4EXT Recovery Control from the market. it will download and install the touch recovery for you in the same way that ROM Manager downloads and flashes the CWM recoveries. Plus it'll let you set up your entire flashing process without ever having to go into recovery. it's quite nice actually. set it all up, execute it and let 4ext do its thing.
word of advice though: if you use any of the format/superwipe or anything methods that are selectable before installing your zip(s), it does those BEFORE flashing anything. so if you're like me and use ROM Cleaner to backup all your apps, don't use 4EXT's super wipe method, use one of the actual superwipe scripts. you might have to go into the updater-script and delete a line that makes it reboot the phone though so the install process doesn't get interrupted

I flashed the newest version of CWM touch but am getting an error when backing up. I am not for sure what is going on but I guess I will go back to 4ext for the time being.

I've been using it for a couple weeks, its the cats pajamas
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I realize that this is kind of a Necro-bump, but this is relevant. Here's a link to d/l CWM touch 5.8.1.5 already rolled into a PD98IMG.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8241559/CWM Recovery Touch/PD98IMG.zip
MD5: E19E4461F73AB6449760D70AE906341D
Props to adikavoor on the DHD boards.
PS, If I missed this in a sticky, sorry..... if not, please add to a sticky. Thanks

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I realize that this is kind of a Necro-bump, but this is relevant. Here's a link to d/l CWM touch 5.8.1.5 already rolled into a PD98IMG.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8241559/CWM Recovery Touch/PD98IMG.zip
MD5: E19E4461F73AB6449760D70AE906341D
Props to adikavoor on the DHD boards.
PS, If I missed this in a sticky, sorry..... if not, please add to a sticky. Thanks
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Most people dont use CWM in the roms as it has been known to cause issues when flashing roms and mods. But thanks for the link.

[Q] Recovery Which one?

Why would you use colckwork over 4EXT? (or the other way around)
just confused.
Thanks A.J.

Both do the same thing really most roms come with one and that's what I use what ever installed last
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One thing that 4EXT has that'd better right now is the ability to make a list of zips to flash. That way I can flash my rom, the kernel of choice and any mods I like and have it done all at once by itself.
That feature alone is why I keep it.
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Well I like the ability to theme and customize 4ext. Plus the app 4EXT Recovery Control can really hold it's own against ROM Manager. The fact that 4ext displays your battery status plus all the other information it shows you. And even the none touch version just felt like ass much better custom recovery, hope no one is offended by that.

I like working with clockwork better but 4EXT gives you a few more options.

It's easier to user the touchscreen rather then volume and power buttons.

4ext, like people have already said, the ability to flash everything in one go and like the fact you can customise it.

[Q] CWM or TWRP

There are a bunch of threads asking about the differences between CWM and TWRP, but I have a question that I think is more specific and I have not seen answered.
Is there any reason besides personal preference for using one over the other?
In most ROM installation guides and such they mention CWM. But I personally like using TWRP better. Does it actually matter? Is there something that I won't be able to do in TWRP that CWM does? So fare, it seems like they do the same thing.

There is nothing different as far as functionality, aside from being able to flash more than one package at a time and the ability to wipe cache and dalvik cache right after flashing a package. (Which I don't recommend doing, it might throw you into a boot loop upon rebooting) only wiping the regular cache is recommended right after flashing packages. Wiping dalvik is usually performed *before* you flash a package.
So, to answer your question... it's pretty much (but not all) cosmetic differences.. plus, the added ease of access features.
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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_Zero said:
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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You can say anything you want, but that doesn't make it true. That outdated recovery is the only supported recovery for a lot of ROMs.

aycockonxion said:
You can say anything you want, but that doesn't make it true. That outdated recovery is the only supported recovery for a lot of ROMs.
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Supported by whom lol twrp flashes everything cwm will to go as far as to say outdated is too far yes but to say twrp won't do it is just ridiculous this is why best threads are dumb
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Thanks
aycockonxion said:
You can say anything you want, but that doesn't make it true. That outdated recovery is the only supported recovery for a lot of ROMs.
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This is the heart of my question. Do I need CWM for specific ROM's? And if so, why? You seem to suggest so.
Illnevertell said:
Supported by whom lol twrp flashes everything cwm will to go as far as to say outdated is too far yes but to say twrp won't do it is just ridiculous this is why best threads are dumb
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But then here the suggestion is that it is not so.
Also, you state exactly why I didn't word this as a best thread. Because I also think those are dumb. They just get people spouting their personal opinions and using that as proof that one is better than the other.
I don't care which one people feel is better, I simply want to know whether there is anything I can't do with one (mainly TWRP) versus the other.
I would have to accept the responses to this thread as saying no, there isn't anything (important) that I can't do with one versus the other. There may be conveniences in one versus the other (like multiple zip installs at once in TWRP), but no show stoppers.
Thanks for your responses.

_Zero said:
There is nothing different as far as functionality, aside from being able to flash more than one package at a time and the ability to wipe cache and dalvik cache right after flashing a package. (Which I don't recommend doing, it might throw you into a boot loop upon rebooting) only wiping the regular cache is recommended right after flashing packages. Wiping dalvik is usually performed *before* you flash a package.
So, to answer your question... it's pretty much (but not all) cosmetic differences.. plus, the added ease of access features.
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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sk8erwitskil's CWM touch is FAR from outdated (last updated 9/17/12). I personally prefer it to TWRP, but TWRP is great too.
You really can't go wrong with either one. Give each a shot and see what you like best.. it's a better route than asking some of the *cough* -opinionated- *cough* people around here.
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Locoman_ said:
sk8erwitskil's CWM touch is FAR from outdated (last updated 9/17/12). I personally prefer it to TWRP, but TWRP is great too.
You really can't go wrong with either one. Give each a shot and see what you like best.. it's a better route than asking some of the *cough* -opinionated- *cough* people around here.
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That's what I'm saying both work its all preference
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Locoman_ said:
sk8erwitskil's CWM touch is FAR from outdated (last updated 9/17/12). I personally prefer it to TWRP, but TWRP is great too.
You really can't go wrong with either one. Give each a shot and see what you like best.. it's a better route than asking some of the *cough* -opinionated- *cough* people around here.
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This. You can't go wrong with sk8er's CWM Touch or TWRP. The only recovery you should stay away from is non-touch CWM. The older versions of button-mashing CWM have a history of doing bad things to Skyrockets.
If a ROM requires one recovery or another, the dev will specify as much. The dev may also suggest a certain recovery, even if it will work on the other. Lots of people like CWM, and lots of others like TWRP. Changing recoveries is not hard at all, so go ahead and try both. Get a feel for which you like more. Nothing to lose by trying them both out.
Kind of funny to see that there are recovery zombies out there. ROM zombies we all knew about, but recovery zombies? :laugh:

_Zero said:
There is nothing different as far as functionality, aside from being able to flash more than one package at a time and the ability to wipe cache and dalvik cache right after flashing a package. (Which I don't recommend doing, it might throw you into a boot loop upon rebooting) only wiping the regular cache is recommended right after flashing packages. Wiping dalvik is usually performed *before* you flash a package.
So, to answer your question... it's pretty much (but not all) cosmetic differences.. plus, the added ease of access features.
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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I have a Touchpad and a Skyrocket and I've always just installed the updates then wiped cache and dalvik. Are you saying that's not what you should be doing with CM9/CM10?

I personally like CWM Touch over TWRP as well.
But at the same does it really matter when it's a 5sec flash to switch between either one?

copene said:
I have a Touchpad and a Skyrocket and I've always just installed the updates then wiped cache and dalvik. Are you saying that's not what you should be doing with CM9/CM10?
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Wiping dalvik will not brick you. I always wipe cache and dalvik 3 times before an update and one time after. Never had a bootloop caused by anything other than stupidity (forgot to wipe cache/dalvik before flashing 3 updates in a row, oops).
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But at the same does it really matter when it's a 5sec flash to switch between either one?
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This. So much of this.

^^^ ??

sb0 said:
^^^ ??
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I'm agreeing with you wholeheartedly.

Yea I just flashed twrp couple days ago. I will stick w cwm where I am more comfortable... at least until more justifiable reason(s) to switch.
Ppl say its outdated but u can also see this as a more widely tested product too (been around longer... more ppl are using, etc.).
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Twrp the new, better, recovery?

Back in the day (droid eris days) there was cwm and twrp and twrp was thought of to cause more issues than anything so it was recommended to use cwm. Now it seems to have changed (at least regarding the gs3). Is this true? IS twrp that much better/stable/safer than cwm? I've never used twrp (have seen videos/screen shots) and it looks alot easier...well user friendly...just curious as to if it is more stable/safer or just as safe as cwm? When it comes to changing the recovery in a phone I view that as updating a bios in your computer...don't do it unless you really really need to (last time I upgraded a bios the power went out the same time....not a good day). Just curious as to fellow flashers opinion on the topic? Seems twrp has been getting alot more updates than cwm as well.
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Excessiveidling said:
Back in the day (droid eris days) there was cwm and twrp and twrp was thought of to cause more issues than anything so it was recommended to use cwm. Now it seems to have changed (at least regarding the gs3). Is this true? IS twrp that much better/stable/safer than cwm? I've never used twrp (have seen videos/screen shots) and it looks alot easier...well user friendly...just curious as to if it is more stable/safer or just as safe as cwm? When it comes to changing the recovery in a phone I view that as updating a bios in your computer...don't do it unless you really really need to (last time I upgraded a bios the power went out the same time....not a good day). Just curious as to fellow flashers opinion on the topic? Seems twrp has been getting alot more updates than cwm as well.
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I only used TWRP, its so much more innovative and easy to use with the touch based interface and i have absolutely no problems with it.
Another another note, probably not the right forum for this thread lol...

Yea I wasn't sure if this was the right forum or not.... But figured recovery deals with development sooooooo...
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Excessiveidling said:
Yea I wasn't sure if this was the right forum or not.... But figured recovery deals with development sooooooo...
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You were still in the wrong. Plus, there's already a dedicated TWRP recovery thread in the dev section.
To answer your question, TWRP really is a nice recovery. I usually stay a few versions behind the latest because what works now is good enough for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either TWRP or CWM, but having used CWM for so long I wanted to see what else was out and TWRP didn't disappoint. It's as safe as a custom recovery can be flashing modified software not intended for your phone.
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