There are a bunch of threads asking about the differences between CWM and TWRP, but I have a question that I think is more specific and I have not seen answered.
Is there any reason besides personal preference for using one over the other?
In most ROM installation guides and such they mention CWM. But I personally like using TWRP better. Does it actually matter? Is there something that I won't be able to do in TWRP that CWM does? So fare, it seems like they do the same thing.
There is nothing different as far as functionality, aside from being able to flash more than one package at a time and the ability to wipe cache and dalvik cache right after flashing a package. (Which I don't recommend doing, it might throw you into a boot loop upon rebooting) only wiping the regular cache is recommended right after flashing packages. Wiping dalvik is usually performed *before* you flash a package.
So, to answer your question... it's pretty much (but not all) cosmetic differences.. plus, the added ease of access features.
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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You can say anything you want, but that doesn't make it true. That outdated recovery is the only supported recovery for a lot of ROMs.
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You can say anything you want, but that doesn't make it true. That outdated recovery is the only supported recovery for a lot of ROMs.
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Supported by whom lol twrp flashes everything cwm will to go as far as to say outdated is too far yes but to say twrp won't do it is just ridiculous this is why best threads are dumb
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You can say anything you want, but that doesn't make it true. That outdated recovery is the only supported recovery for a lot of ROMs.
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This is the heart of my question. Do I need CWM for specific ROM's? And if so, why? You seem to suggest so.
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Supported by whom lol twrp flashes everything cwm will to go as far as to say outdated is too far yes but to say twrp won't do it is just ridiculous this is why best threads are dumb
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But then here the suggestion is that it is not so.
Also, you state exactly why I didn't word this as a best thread. Because I also think those are dumb. They just get people spouting their personal opinions and using that as proof that one is better than the other.
I don't care which one people feel is better, I simply want to know whether there is anything I can't do with one (mainly TWRP) versus the other.
I would have to accept the responses to this thread as saying no, there isn't anything (important) that I can't do with one versus the other. There may be conveniences in one versus the other (like multiple zip installs at once in TWRP), but no show stoppers.
Thanks for your responses.
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There is nothing different as far as functionality, aside from being able to flash more than one package at a time and the ability to wipe cache and dalvik cache right after flashing a package. (Which I don't recommend doing, it might throw you into a boot loop upon rebooting) only wiping the regular cache is recommended right after flashing packages. Wiping dalvik is usually performed *before* you flash a package.
So, to answer your question... it's pretty much (but not all) cosmetic differences.. plus, the added ease of access features.
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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sk8erwitskil's CWM touch is FAR from outdated (last updated 9/17/12). I personally prefer it to TWRP, but TWRP is great too.
You really can't go wrong with either one. Give each a shot and see what you like best.. it's a better route than asking some of the *cough* -opinionated- *cough* people around here.
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sk8erwitskil's CWM touch is FAR from outdated (last updated 9/17/12). I personally prefer it to TWRP, but TWRP is great too.
You really can't go wrong with either one. Give each a shot and see what you like best.. it's a better route than asking some of the *cough* -opinionated- *cough* people around here.
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That's what I'm saying both work its all preference
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sk8erwitskil's CWM touch is FAR from outdated (last updated 9/17/12). I personally prefer it to TWRP, but TWRP is great too.
You really can't go wrong with either one. Give each a shot and see what you like best.. it's a better route than asking some of the *cough* -opinionated- *cough* people around here.
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This. You can't go wrong with sk8er's CWM Touch or TWRP. The only recovery you should stay away from is non-touch CWM. The older versions of button-mashing CWM have a history of doing bad things to Skyrockets.
If a ROM requires one recovery or another, the dev will specify as much. The dev may also suggest a certain recovery, even if it will work on the other. Lots of people like CWM, and lots of others like TWRP. Changing recoveries is not hard at all, so go ahead and try both. Get a feel for which you like more. Nothing to lose by trying them both out.
Kind of funny to see that there are recovery zombies out there. ROM zombies we all knew about, but recovery zombies? :laugh:
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There is nothing different as far as functionality, aside from being able to flash more than one package at a time and the ability to wipe cache and dalvik cache right after flashing a package. (Which I don't recommend doing, it might throw you into a boot loop upon rebooting) only wiping the regular cache is recommended right after flashing packages. Wiping dalvik is usually performed *before* you flash a package.
So, to answer your question... it's pretty much (but not all) cosmetic differences.. plus, the added ease of access features.
But when TWRP is compared to an outdated recovery system such as clock work mod, then yeah it seems like light years of differences. Yes I said it, CWM IS OUTDATED.
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I have a Touchpad and a Skyrocket and I've always just installed the updates then wiped cache and dalvik. Are you saying that's not what you should be doing with CM9/CM10?
I personally like CWM Touch over TWRP as well.
But at the same does it really matter when it's a 5sec flash to switch between either one?
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I have a Touchpad and a Skyrocket and I've always just installed the updates then wiped cache and dalvik. Are you saying that's not what you should be doing with CM9/CM10?
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Wiping dalvik will not brick you. I always wipe cache and dalvik 3 times before an update and one time after. Never had a bootloop caused by anything other than stupidity (forgot to wipe cache/dalvik before flashing 3 updates in a row, oops).
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But at the same does it really matter when it's a 5sec flash to switch between either one?
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This. So much of this.
^^^ ??
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I'm agreeing with you wholeheartedly.
Yea I just flashed twrp couple days ago. I will stick w cwm where I am more comfortable... at least until more justifiable reason(s) to switch.
Ppl say its outdated but u can also see this as a more widely tested product too (been around longer... more ppl are using, etc.).
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Hey guys, I've been reading XDA for about a month now, and I think I'm ready to flash CM7. I've already rooted with superoneclick, but I don't have the money now to get a new phone if I brick, so I was hoping someone could just check my plan to make sure that I'm good to go? I've read the tutorials, but I want to be positive that I'm ok. I think that if I generate a list [without looking at the tutorial], rather than just copying theirs, I'll be sure that I understand the steps 100%.
Procedure:
-Root the phone (done)
-install nvflash on computer, and then clockworkmod to phone
-backup the NAND with clockworkmod (is that like the wii, where the NAND is specific to the device itself?)
-move the NAND to the computer for safe keeping
-install titanium backup > backup all apps > move to computer for safety
-flash rom from SD card
I've flashed a few roms onto an android tablet before, but I didn't backup the NAND when I did...
Will give "thanks" to each reply
You pretty much have it down the main thing to remember is to nvflash BC if not you will not be able to get into recovery. Also before flashing the rom you have to wipe data/cache/and dalvic cache. Let me know if this makes sense I'm at work so I don't really have time to go into detail lol
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You pretty much have it down the main thing to remember is to nvflash BC if not you will not be able to get into recovery. Also before flashing the rom you have to wipe data/cache/and dalvic cache. Let me know if this makes sense I'm at work so I don't really have time to go into detail lol
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Ah, yeah, I forgot about the clear cache bit- I remember doing that when I flashed the tablet. Thanks a bunch man, I just finished, and it worked great!
I'm glad everything worked out lemme know if there's anything else u need
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also if u want to just install a kernel after the rom is installed just wipe cache then dalvik then install kernel....no need to wipe data
Also, depending on the rom, you also may need to flash gapps. With Faux or CM, you will. I believe with Bionix and Eagleblood it is included (someone correct me if I am wrong).
After flashing, it is always best practice to run a fix permissions in clockworkmod.
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Also, depending on the rom, you also may need to flash gapps. With Faux or CM, you will. I believe with Bionix and Eagleblood it is included (someone correct me if I am wrong).
After flashing, it is always best practice to run a fix permissions in clockworkmod.
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Ah, yeah, I figured that one out. I couldn't figure out where the market was! And then I read...
What's the fix permissions thing? Is that the option in the CM settings that said something like "don't turn this on and then report bugs, because it'll break some apps" ?
Fix permissions is in the advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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Fix permissions is in the advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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yup, i usually do this after installing the rom, kernel and gapps just for good measure
I'm a newb at this, and I've been looking around. Your steps are really basic and atually the simplest, I will actually be printing out that plan so I don't get confused with all of the confusing terms that I've seen floating around that I am not used to! Haha
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Fix permissions is in the advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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Got it, thanks!
Mikeglongo said:
I'm a newb at this, and I've been looking around. Your steps are really basic and atually the simplest, I will actually be printing out that plan so I don't get confused with all of the confusing terms that I've seen floating around that I am not used to! Haha
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Sweet man, glad it helped
Don't forget to clear the cache before you flash
thederekjay; recognized dev from over in the T-Mobile forum (and many other places), has posted a custom full wipe script to be flashed each time before flashing a new rom. PLEASE READ HIS THREAD for full details...link below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477955
I have flashed this wipe twice already with no problems.
Cool! this will be really useful
"After it is complete with format and erase, it will align all disks partitions properly"
I don't doubt it works great, but partition stuff makes me nervous.
It doesnt touch any internal or external memory.
orlandoxpolice said:
"After it is complete with format and erase, it will align all disks partitions properly"
I don't doubt it works great, but partition stuff makes me nervous.
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Message relayed from the dark side.
Samsungs get finicky when you start messing with the partitions. I don't think Orlando was referring to the internal/next memory more so the boot and system partitions etc
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It doesnt touch any internal or external memory.
Message relayed from the dark side.
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Well, i've used it 3 times now with no issue yet. No problems...what do you think 'wipe data/cache/dalvik' boils down too?
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Dude . If you are a skeptic then check out darksides thread and ask him for more details after reading the thread.
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Samsungs get finicky when you start messing with the partitions. I don't think Orlando was referring to the internal/next memory more so the boot and system partitions etc
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I'm not knocking it, just voiced a concern. if it has worked for you multiple times i dont doubt it validity. i will most likely use it next time i flash a new rom.
My skyrocket has only had crazy fc's once but seems like some are more susceptible to the fc's more than others. Wgich leads back to a subpar version of cwm...if running this script before flashing prevents crazy fc's, then it's a pretty big deal for our device. Mostly as a supplement to a cwm that requires wiping all partitions 3 times each in HOPES of a clean wipe.
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My skyrocket has only had crazy fc's once but seems like some are more susceptible to the fc's more than others. Wgich leads back to a subpar version of cwm...if running this script before flashing prevents crazy fc's, then it's a pretty big deal for our device. Mostly as a supplement to a cwm that requires wiping all partitions 3 times each in HOPES of a clean wipe.
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Yeah I have wondered why no one had written a script to do this sooner.
I like darksides work...haven't had any issues with anything he has produced so far.
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Yeah I have wondered why no one had written a script to do this sooner.
I like darksides work...haven't had any issues with anything he has produced so far.
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Can this script be added to the CWM touch version that was created. It seems that the CWM touch still has the same problem of not completely wiping data from the SkyRocket. If this script were to be incorporated into it, it might solve the CWM "wipe" problem?
wow thank you for the link. total time saver.
Its a cwm flashable zip...it should work I would think.
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Can this script be added to the CWM touch version that was created. It seems that the CWM touch still has the same problem of not completely wiping data from the SkyRocket. If this script were to be incorporated into it, it might solve the CWM "wipe" problem?
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Works perfect on Skyrocket.
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So far it is working really well for me too
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Works perfect on Skyrocket.
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so much better than having to flash back to odin
Hello all, I currently have a g2x but I'm going to be flashing a HTC inspire for my buddy. Can anyone put up a link to the cm 7.2.0 rom? Is there even one for the inspire? If not can you give me a few roms to choose from that you may have a good experience with, as well as a kernel? ( unless the stock kernel for the rom has awesome battery life.) Aaaaand one other thing... am I going to be flashing this the exact way I flashed my g2x or is there a different method for each phone?
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You could always search for the info on here or on Google. The info is there though.
I've actually tried searching on here. I thought maybe someone who has done this on this specific phone e already could answer these questions to give me a head start. Not trying to be lazy or anything. That's just the best way to learn and the quickest
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I've actually tried searching on here. I thought maybe someone who has done this on this specific phone e already could answer these questions to give me a head start. Not trying to be lazy or anything. That's just the best way to learn and the quickest
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Every rom is different and mostly all need a full wipe when flashed. The best way to flash a rom is boot in recovery, wipe data / Factory rest, Wipe cache, format system and then install from sdcard, choose zip and install.
The first boot might take a while so don´t get anxious. Make sure that you check the MD5sum of the Rom file in the sdcard. And of course before you wipe everything make sure that you have the zip file in the sdcard.
Don´t use Rom Manager, because is not compatible with all roms and might fail...
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Every rom is different and mostly all need a full wipe when flashed. The best way to flash a rom is boot in recovery, wipe data / Factory rest, Wipe cache, format system and then install from sdcard, choose zip and install.
The first boot might take a while so don´t get anxious. Make sure that you check the MD5sum of the Rom file in the sdcard. And of course before you wipe everything make sure that you have the zip file in the sdcard.
Don´t use Rom Manager, because is not compatible with all roms and might fail...
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So what you are saying is its the same as flashing my g2x. I thought it may be different with different phones. Don't forget creating a back up of the stock rom too. Things can get messed up pretty easily. Cool cool though. Hopefully I can find the cm7 and Trinity for his inspire. Don't think so but worth a shot. Any suggestions for good rom/kernel combos?
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So what you are saying is its the same as flashing my g2x. I thought it may be different with different phones. Don't forget creating a back up of the stock rom too. Things can get messed up pretty easily. Cool cool though. Hopefully I can find the cm7 and Trinity for his inspire. Don't think so but worth a shot. Any suggestions for good rom/kernel combos?
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OK spend some time reading on the dev threads will tell you all you need to know. There is no spoon feeding here. Take the ACE hack kit that you will need to use. If you don't pay close attention and read it top to bottom you will have problems. So take the time and do the research.
There is no easy way. Only a right and wrong way.
Hi guys, I recently downloaded the app from this XDA user that verifies if you're in danger of bricking your device.
Apparently I am, the app says 'this is a chip with KNOWN issues'. I don't really understand what causes the issue, if I'm actually in danger or I just shouldn't do XYZ. Would anyone with more knowledge please take the time to explain as best they can what the situation is?
I'm running AOKP with UCLE2, and it seems plenty of people are sticking with ICS roms so it doesn't seem to be that heavy a situation.
I'm pretty sure the brickbug is only caused from recoveries that use ICS kernels. Currently the skyrocket doesnt have any recovery available that has an ICS kernel so I'm pretty sure were in the green.
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I'm pretty sure the brickbug is only caused from recoveries that use ICS kernels. Currently the skyrocket doesnt have any recovery available that has an ICS kernel so I'm pretty sure were in the green.
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Thank you, from what I was reading it had to do with a method of erasing that corrupted the eMMc, but I honestly didn't understand anything more than that and from the thread here it basically said 'if you flash a ROM, it may be your last'.
There was a lot of technical talk that I didn't quite follow.
And I am aware this isn't Q/A forum, but a possible hard brick I thought deserved more light.
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Thank you, from what I was reading it had to do with a method of erasing that corrupted the eMMc, but I honestly didn't understand anything more than that and from the thread here it basically said 'if you flash a ROM, it may be your last'.
There was a lot of technical talk that I didn't quite follow.
And I am aware this isn't Q/A forum, but a possible hard brick I thought deserved more light.
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yes and no, but its not by flashing rom with cwm read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621679
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Thank you, from what I was reading it had to do with a method of erasing that corrupted the eMMc, but I honestly didn't understand anything more than that and from the thread here it basically said 'if you flash a ROM, it may be your last'.
There was a lot of technical talk that I didn't quite follow.
And I am aware this isn't Q/A forum, but a possible hard brick I thought deserved more light.
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I might not be %100 on the money but I remember something with ics leaks and recoveries cause super bricks.
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It's not flashing a ROM that causes bricks. It's using the wipe functions with ics kernels. Aka, if you're on ics and you have one of the chips in question, and you perform wipe functions in cwm you have a good chance of bricking at some point. Maybe not next time, maybe not in the next 30 wipes, but it will most likely happen at some point according to what's been happening with other users of the chips.
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My understanding is that if you use a gingerbread based cwm (which is any of the cwm versions posted on XDA) to wipe that you "should" be safe. It's when you use Factory Data Reset while on ics using the gui that you risk getting the bug. (ie DO NOT go into Settings/Backup and Reset/Factory Data Reset).
EDIT: Also do not go into stock 3e recovery to wipe data after flashing the one-click leaks. I'm assuming that recovery was based on an ics kernel, but I could be wrong about that. But to be safe, DON'T!
This post explains that it is because the Skyrocket and t989 have separate recovery and kernel partitions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27140915&postcount=122
I'm not completely sure now as there seems to be two differing takes on the situation. I am on AOKPs latest R4INS linaro build, using the 5.8.somethingsomething recovery from here. I've been told it's a Gingerbread Recovery. But I don't know how to actually tell or what the difference is.
If the problem is ICS recovery then I should theoretically be fine. If the problem is ICS builds in general then I'm in danger. And if the problem is ICS kernel then I'm not sure if I'm in danger, I haven't specially flashed a new kernel, but I'm not sure if they are included with the ROM.
I'm sorry for these lines of questions. Still learning the technical aspect.
Its wiping with anything using an ics kernel so either from or recovery none of our recoveries use ics so that leads us to roms atm
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Is this issue expected to persist even once official ICS is released and specifically isolated to rooted devices, or should this be solved once we have the final build?
When I had my gs2 i777 and the bug first showed up it only affected users who flashed the leaked stock ics kernel. Those on custom kernels such as cm9 or aokp were not affected. Also page 7 of the gotbug app post (linked by the op in this thread) has all of the details posted by entropy512 the Dev who discovered the bug.
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I'm not completely sure now as there seems to be two differing takes on the situation. I am on AOKPs latest R4INS linaro build, using the 5.8.somethingsomething recovery from here. I've been told it's a Gingerbread Recovery. But I don't know how to actually tell or what the difference is.
If the problem is ICS recovery then I should theoretically be fine. If the problem is ICS builds in general then I'm in danger. And if the problem is ICS kernel then I'm not sure if I'm in danger, I haven't specially flashed a new kernel, but I'm not sure if they are included with the ROM.
I'm sorry for these lines of questions. Still learning the technical aspect.
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If you are on an ics ROM, you would be on an ics kernel. Therefore you would have a chance of bricking if you wipe.
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If you are on an ics ROM, you would be on an ics kernel. Therefore you would have a chance of bricking if you wipe.
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But doesn't recovery not use the same kernel as the ROM uses?
Well I'm on the leak but I'm not gonna take the chance and wipe anything. If I really needed to do a wipe or a factory reset I would just fire Odin up and flash back stock and then do a wipe. But from what I've read if I understand it right and correct me if I'm wrong it only happens when you wipe or reset using either cwm or GUI and select to format SD. If I understand it right as long as you don't format the SD when wiping or factory data reset you should be OK. So please someone if I've misunderstood please correct me... as I said if I need to wipe or reset I'll flash back to stock and do it.. your gonna lose your data either way so might as well not take the chance...
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Well I'm on the leak but I'm not gonna take the chance and wipe anything. If I really needed to do a wipe or a factory reset I would just fire Odin up and flash back stock and then do a wipe. But from what I've read if I understand it right and correct me if I'm wrong it only happens when you wipe or reset using either cwm or GUI and select to format SD. If I understand it right as long as you don't format the SD when wiping or factory data reset you should be OK. So please someone if I've misunderstood please correct me... as I said if I need to wipe or reset I'll flash back to stock and do it.. your gonna lose your data either way so might as well not take the chance...
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as of now, all cwm recoveries on this i727 forum r based in gb, even if u flashed a rom based on the ics, cwm is never part of the rom as it is flashed seperatly, the only time that would happen is when u odin a stock firmware
garydv2002 said:
Well I'm on the leak but I'm not gonna take the chance and wipe anything. If I really needed to do a wipe or a factory reset I would just fire Odin up and flash back stock and then do a wipe. But from what I've read if I understand it right and correct me if I'm wrong it only happens when you wipe or reset using either cwm or GUI and select to format SD. If I understand it right as long as you don't format the SD when wiping or factory data reset you should be OK. So please someone if I've misunderstood please correct me... as I said if I need to wipe or reset I'll flash back to stock and do it.. your gonna lose your data either way so might as well not take the chance...
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Do not wipe anything on ics atm in GUI cwm is your friend
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My understanding is that if you use a gingerbread based cwm (which is any of the cwm versions posted on XDA) to wipe that you "should" be safe. It's when you use Factory Data Reset while on ics using the gui that you risk getting the bug. (ie DO NOT go into Settings/Backup and Reset/Factory Data Reset).
EDIT: Also do not go into stock 3e recovery to wipe data after flashing the one-click leaks. I'm assuming that recovery was based on an ics kernel, but I could be wrong about that. But to be safe, DON'T!
This post explains that it is because the Skyrocket and t989 have separate recovery and kernel partitions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27140915&postcount=122
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This exactly. The stock recoveries are the main dangerous part. Flash off of it before you do anything. While we have the same problem with the chip, it seems we're not likely to encounter it if you don't use the format operations while on the ics kernels. The 4 current modded recoveries we have are all based on gingerbread. (well 3 are, and the fourth is believed to be unless he has his own leaks)
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Do not wipe anything on ics atm in GUI cwm is your friend
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The bottom line is all wiping (for sd/usb cards too) should be done with a gb cwm if you're using an ics based rom. Correct?
Sorry to beat a dead horse but the amount of information and disinformation out there is staggering...
Locoman_ said:
The bottom line is all wiping (for sd/usb cards too) should be done with a gb cwm if you're using an ics based rom. Correct?
Sorry to beat a dead horse but the amount of information and disinformation out there is staggering...
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Agreed. I've looked at MANY threads and everyone seems to have a different idea of what causes the brick and what steps to take to avoid it. I've read cwm wiping can cause the brick but here it says cwm is safe. Its hard to know what to think
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Mike on XDA said:
Agreed. I've looked at MANY threads and everyone seems to have a different idea of what causes the brick and what steps to take to avoid it. I've read cwm wiping can cause the brick but here it says cwm is safe. Its hard to know what to think
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My understanding is that when on an ICS based rom wiping with a GB based recovery IS ok. Wiping with an ICS based recovery is NOT ok. Using the ICS gui to wipe is NOT ok.
Would love to have this confirmed.
Back in the day (droid eris days) there was cwm and twrp and twrp was thought of to cause more issues than anything so it was recommended to use cwm. Now it seems to have changed (at least regarding the gs3). Is this true? IS twrp that much better/stable/safer than cwm? I've never used twrp (have seen videos/screen shots) and it looks alot easier...well user friendly...just curious as to if it is more stable/safer or just as safe as cwm? When it comes to changing the recovery in a phone I view that as updating a bios in your computer...don't do it unless you really really need to (last time I upgraded a bios the power went out the same time....not a good day). Just curious as to fellow flashers opinion on the topic? Seems twrp has been getting alot more updates than cwm as well.
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Excessiveidling said:
Back in the day (droid eris days) there was cwm and twrp and twrp was thought of to cause more issues than anything so it was recommended to use cwm. Now it seems to have changed (at least regarding the gs3). Is this true? IS twrp that much better/stable/safer than cwm? I've never used twrp (have seen videos/screen shots) and it looks alot easier...well user friendly...just curious as to if it is more stable/safer or just as safe as cwm? When it comes to changing the recovery in a phone I view that as updating a bios in your computer...don't do it unless you really really need to (last time I upgraded a bios the power went out the same time....not a good day). Just curious as to fellow flashers opinion on the topic? Seems twrp has been getting alot more updates than cwm as well.
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I only used TWRP, its so much more innovative and easy to use with the touch based interface and i have absolutely no problems with it.
Another another note, probably not the right forum for this thread lol...
Yea I wasn't sure if this was the right forum or not.... But figured recovery deals with development sooooooo...
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Excessiveidling said:
Yea I wasn't sure if this was the right forum or not.... But figured recovery deals with development sooooooo...
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You were still in the wrong. Plus, there's already a dedicated TWRP recovery thread in the dev section.
To answer your question, TWRP really is a nice recovery. I usually stay a few versions behind the latest because what works now is good enough for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either TWRP or CWM, but having used CWM for so long I wanted to see what else was out and TWRP didn't disappoint. It's as safe as a custom recovery can be flashing modified software not intended for your phone.
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