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Is there a easy way to root the phone

root method in the development section seems to be very complicated. has anyone been able to find a better way to root ?

vikramdhani said:
root method in the development section seems to be very complicated. has anyone been able to find a better way to root ?
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It's actually a very easy process. All you have to do is follow simple directions. It sounds like you may not be ready to root your device. I knew nothing when I started, but jumped in head first and came out the other side better.
Just check the stickies in the dev section its almost noob proof honestly. And its pretty hard to brick this device if you follow directions.
Maybe if I tell you the main steps it may make more sense.
First, use revolutionary or HTC unlock to get the right bootloader. Revolutionary actually flashes recovery for you too.
Second, flash recovery... Either use revolutionary or use adb (theres tons of guides)
Third, either root the stock Rom by flashing su in recovery (you can get the correct file from Rom manager) OR just flash a custom Rom and they come rooted.
Of course each step has a few steps involved but really nothing a small bit of research can't fix.
Sorry if I sound a bit like a jerk but it really is kinda easy.... Intimidating at first but easy.
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Question about recovery. I have come from the HD2 to the sensation. The CWM on the HD2 was quite advanced. They had re-arranged the Yes No menu options to have one Yes and one No. For example do you want to install upgrade zip file. If you selected it, Rather than scrolling through all the no's to get to yes, you had yes first then no.
It is one thing I find annoying with CWM for the sensation and was wondering is there an update, or could a CWM from the HD2 be used on the sensation?

GhostXSeries said:
Question about recovery. I have come from the HD2 to the sensation. The CWM on the HD2 was quite advanced. They had re-arranged the Yes No menu options to have one Yes and one No. For example do you want to install upgrade zip file. If you selected it, Rather than scrolling through all the no's to get to yes, you had yes first then no.
It is one thing I find annoying with CWM for the sensation and was wondering is there an update, or could a CWM from the HD2 be used on the sensation?
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Personally I don't use cwm anymore. I use 4ext touch recovery and its amazing, not a single problem yet. It's so cool to use the touchscreen in recovery. Also twrp v.1 fixed that repetitive yes and no problem too. But no there isn't any way to change that in cwm right now.
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ClockworkMod Recovery Touch on Inspire 4G?

Has anyone tried the touch recovery on an Inspire?
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
There's only a DHD version and my understanding from the ICS development threads is that DHD and Inspire have different touch screen drivers?

Elbob10s said:
Has anyone tried the touch recovery on an Inspire?
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
There's only a DHD version and my understanding from the ICS development threads is that DHD and Inspire have different touch screen drivers?
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Didn't know CWM had a touch recovery out. Very cool.
Try it, the worst that will happen is you'll have to flash a different version of recovery on top of it. I haven't heard anything about the DHD and Inspire having different touch screen drivers, they're the same device. 4EXT Touch works on the Inspire and I believe the version is a DHD version

homeslice976 said:
Didn't know CWM had a touch recovery out. Very cool.
Try it, the worst that will happen is you'll have to flash a different version of recovery on top of it. I haven't heard anything about the DHD and Inspire having different touch screen drivers, they're the same device. 4EXT Touch works on the Inspire and I believe the version is a DHD version
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We have different screens (atmel vs synaptics). When 4ext touch came out their was a brief moment where touch accuracy was an issue compared to our dhd brothers.
Same thing occurred with the ice devoloment

marsdta said:
We have different screens (atmel vs synaptics). When 4ext touch came out their was a brief moment where touch accuracy was an issue compared to our dhd brothers.
Same thing occurred with the ice devoloment
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ah...guess I didn't stay up on those issues well enough

So, I flashed it, and I can confirm that it works. However, compared to 4Ext Touch, 4Ext takes the cake.

Joshp406 said:
So, I flashed it, and I can confirm that it works. However, compared to 4Ext Touch, 4Ext takes the cake.
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I would hold judgement on a comparison for now. From what I understand, the CWM touch is still in beta. I'm sure it will improve when the "official" version is done.

marsdta said:
We have different screens (atmel vs synaptics). When 4ext touch came out their was a brief moment where touch accuracy was an issue compared to our dhd brothers.
Same thing occurred with the ice devoloment
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I have actually had the opportunity to replace digitizers in a A9191, Inspire A9192, and a Telus Desire HD A9192. All 3 models had synaptics digitizers and were replaced with the same. I have heard that the atmel digitizer was found in A9191's and A9192's but I have yet to see one.
Edit: Ironic here. My personal Telus Desire HD has not had the digitizer replaced. But I just checked it with Elixir and I would be damned to see that it is reported as having an atmel touchscreen. Now I want to take it apart to verify for myself. lol

Touch works amazingly for me. No issues.

Anyone getting server issues right now while trying to download?

Joshp406 said:
So, I flashed it, and I can confirm that it works. However, compared to 4Ext Touch, 4Ext takes the cake.
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4EXT FTW
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod

esiedlecki said:
Touch works amazingly for me. No issues.
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I'm using it right now...I love not having to volume mash.
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Works like a charm for me.

Used it enough to know that it's stable and functional. Not currently, but have recently...
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how do you flash it? when i tried fastboot flash recovery touchimage.img it failed

kormsbee said:
how do you flash it? when i tried fastboot flash recovery touchimage.img it failed
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To install it that way you need eng S-OFF. You need to flash a PD98IMG.zip, but make sure you have the .txt file as well. In the Hack Kit folder is an example of recovery.
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alternative method for 4EXT recovery: download 4EXT Recovery Control from the market. it will download and install the touch recovery for you in the same way that ROM Manager downloads and flashes the CWM recoveries. Plus it'll let you set up your entire flashing process without ever having to go into recovery. it's quite nice actually. set it all up, execute it and let 4ext do its thing.
word of advice though: if you use any of the format/superwipe or anything methods that are selectable before installing your zip(s), it does those BEFORE flashing anything. so if you're like me and use ROM Cleaner to backup all your apps, don't use 4EXT's super wipe method, use one of the actual superwipe scripts. you might have to go into the updater-script and delete a line that makes it reboot the phone though so the install process doesn't get interrupted

I flashed the newest version of CWM touch but am getting an error when backing up. I am not for sure what is going on but I guess I will go back to 4ext for the time being.

I've been using it for a couple weeks, its the cats pajamas
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I realize that this is kind of a Necro-bump, but this is relevant. Here's a link to d/l CWM touch 5.8.1.5 already rolled into a PD98IMG.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8241559/CWM Recovery Touch/PD98IMG.zip
MD5: E19E4461F73AB6449760D70AE906341D
Props to adikavoor on the DHD boards.
PS, If I missed this in a sticky, sorry..... if not, please add to a sticky. Thanks

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I realize that this is kind of a Necro-bump, but this is relevant. Here's a link to d/l CWM touch 5.8.1.5 already rolled into a PD98IMG.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8241559/CWM Recovery Touch/PD98IMG.zip
MD5: E19E4461F73AB6449760D70AE906341D
Props to adikavoor on the DHD boards.
PS, If I missed this in a sticky, sorry..... if not, please add to a sticky. Thanks
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Most people dont use CWM in the roms as it has been known to cause issues when flashing roms and mods. But thanks for the link.

[APP] CWM Recovery Touch - No More Buttons

Just got ClockworkMod Recovery Touch loaded on my EVO 4G.
Look ma no more up and down on the volume button in while in Recovery.
Yes, you can still use volume up/down if you want, but I am liking this new touchscreen action. Koush U Rock my friend.
Video of CWM Touch in Action
Link 5.8.0.1 is what I put on.

Yep I have been running it for a bit now, used it a bunch last night, pretty smooth and not bad touch sensitivity.
Great stuff Koush!

I use the capacitive to navigate cwm (not touch) home = up, menu = down, back = back, and search = select.

Works great! Keep all my back ups
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Awesome, gonna give it a try now
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What is the best way to install the .img file?
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see i would use this but i have had bad experiences using anything but amon.
twrp 1.x > wont do anything with my ext
twrp 2.x > bricked my evo
cwm and thing past 2.x > wont wipe right or flash amend files
amon > perfect...
so unless anyone can attest to this actually being like 100% working im gonna stay away haha

PhxkinMassacre said:
see i would use this but i have had bad experiences using anything but amon.
twrp 1.x > wont do anything with my ext
twrp 2.x > bricked my evo
cwm and thing past 2.x > wont wipe right or flash amend files
amon > perfect...
so unless anyone can attest to this actually being like 100% working im gonna stay away haha
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I can't get it to load, so I'll take that as a sign lol.
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So, how do you install this?

phillymade said:
So, how do you install this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473525
A few ways there, I usually flash my recoveries with the pc36img.zip placed in root and run it in the bootloader. Or flash within ROM Manager, but there is a little donation he wants if you flash it via rom manager, I was hoping that it would be removed and flashable when I installed the premuim version from the market, but no luck. But that post there shows very simple ways to flash CWM. I didn't even know that program existed to flash img files without fastbooting the file, good stuff.
Enjoy!

phillymade said:
So, how do you install this?
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Like many apps I can't live without. I donated and installed via Rom Manager.

Installed using the GUI flasher I got free on xda. Works like a charm.
My EVO is Stock, Rooted and BAD ASS!

Installed it and it seemed to work fine..only thong that bugged me. Was when I tried to reboot into recovery from rom it didn't work.
I had to boot into bootloader then select recovery...
Then I thought why mess with something that isn't broken and I flashed back to Among RA!!
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I flashed it, but it would always freeze 4/5 of the way of installing any ROM. Had to revert back to non-touch

indyjames said:
Installed it and it seemed to work fine..only thong that bugged me. Was when I tried to reboot into recovery from rom it didn't work.
I had to boot into bootloader then select recovery...
Then I thought why mess with something that isn't broken and I flashed back to Among RA!!
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Good work. After that TWRP garbage, I won't even consider going to a touch recovery.

cprielly said:
Good work. After that TWRP garbage, I won't even consider going to a touch recovery.
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Yeah I fried two phones with TWRP... but I think touch is the way to go. To save on physical button usage and wear out. I took the jump when it came avaliable for the Evo4G. Not as flashy as TWRP.... BUT seems stable and usable without bricking phones.
~Max
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[POLL] Which Recovery do you prefer?

Hey guys,
i can't decide, which recovery i should use. CWM looks more nice to me. But i have at the moment 4EXT and i don't know if CWM will restore the backups of 4EXT.

alex1301 said:
Hey guys,
i don't know if CWM will restore the backups of CWM.
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this is absolute funny
anyways on topic
most of the sense roms..works pretty well with 4EXT
and most of AOSP /AOKP/ roms prefer CWM over 4EXT ...
so the recovery is not a choice in my opinion ..but a requirement w.r.t the ROM we want to use

my problem is with a sense rom, i have always a bootloop with CWM so i've installed 4EXT, but now i don't know which one i should use.
EDIT: i've noticed what you mean ;-)

imo 4ext is much better than cwm...it is highly supported and very fast, full of options, themes and commands....much much better...cwm is simple and does the minimum

I prefer 4 EXT, no contest x hands down, 4 ext is THE BEST! It's got
More features, its easier, its funner yes fun! You can theme 4ext with some really spectacular themes from xda! There is just no question 4ext is best in my opnion. CWM is just not as nice. Once I installed 4 ext I realized I'll never go back! They Are also really prompt with the updates and notify you as soon as their available! As I mentioned, I love theming my recovery with different themes! It makes it even more personal! 4 ext all the way here! Best wishes to you in whatever your decision!
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4Ext for sure.
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4ext without a doubt the best recovery I have used.
But remember how much we "Flash-Addicts" owe to CWM, for the endless use (And abuse) to our devices over the past years.
Without CWM there would be no 4ext recovery.
I personally call it a draw.
Cheers.

Still enjoying cwm, but 4 ext is also cool...

alex1301 said:
Hey guys,
i can't decide, which recovery i should use. CWM looks more nice to me. But i have at the moment 4EXT and i don't know if CWM will restore the backups of 4EXT.
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To be honest, 4EXT is the best recovery to use with the Sensation. You mentioned boot loops, or you S-off or HTC Dev unlocked. If you are HTC Dev unlocked 4EXT is not an option, it is a must as it has Smart Flash so you can flash the kernel of the ROM like normal instead of having to use fastboot commands to flash the kernel. The kernel not being flashed is a reason for boot loops. Also you could have the wrong firmware, I really am not sure though as I don't know your device set up information.
ganeshp said:
this is absolute funny
anyways on topic
most of the sense roms..works pretty well with 4EXT
and most of AOSP /AOKP/ roms prefer CWM over 4EXT ...
so the recovery is not a choice in my opinion ..but a requirement w.r.t the ROM we want to use
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Shame on you for laughing at the OP's typo.........
I do agree with you though, it really is not so much of a choice as a requirement. 4EXTworks well with ASOP and AOKP ROMs but most people make the mistake of using the Super Wipe script and not the built in Super Wipe in 4EXT before flashing a AOSP or AOKP ROM.
buzzboy said:
4ext without a doubt the best recovery I have used.
But remember how much we "Flash-Addicts" owe to CWM, for the endless use (And abuse) to our devices over the past years.
Without CWM there would be no 4ext recovery.
I personally call it a draw.
Cheers.
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I agree and totally respect what you are saying, but at the same time 4EXT is a way more powerful recovery. Itcan perform several more tasks than CWM and was a fully functioning touch recovery way before CWM. Koush is definitely a legend and deserves major propes. (Requests momentary round of applause for Koush) But CWM was actually not the first custom recovery it just became the most popular. Also Koush joined up with Cyanogen Mod so CWM has had some very good devs work on it. Yet 4EXT is maintained by one dev Maddmaxx82, yes he had some major help translating the recovery, but he maintains it himself. Not to mention 4EXT Recovery Control app is so much better than ROM Manager.

ive always been weary of trying 4ext touch but that is the greatest recovery ever

T-Macgnolia said:
I agree and totally respect what you are saying, but at the same time 4EXT is a way more powerful recovery. Itcan perform several more tasks than CWM and was a fully functioning touch recovery way before CWM. Koush is definitely a legend and deserves major propes. (Requests momentary round of applause for Koush) But CWM was actually not the first custom recovery it just became the most popular. Also Koush joined up with Cyanogen Mod so CWM has had some very good devs work on it. Yet 4EXT is maintained by one dev Maddmaxx82, yes he had some major help translating the recovery, but he maintains it himself. Not to mention 4EXT Recovery Control app is so much better than ROM Manager.
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I understand. And agree 4ext is without a doubt today's best recovery solution. I never doubted that fact.
But originally 4ext used CWM sources. So the Developer built the foundations of today's work from knowledge gained from using CWM in the beginning.
Anyway this is slightly off topic.
I'll leave you with a quote from Maddmaxx82 which is found at the footer of every 4ext thread.
Cheers.

Started with CWM on a olser device came to th senny was still using it till i found arhd an 4ext never looked back
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I was furious when ARHD auto-installed 4EXT over CWM.
"what the deuce is this??"
But i got to love 4ext in the end. Beats cwm to bits. Touch over volume buttons aNy day.
Beamed from my Senny..

I use 4ext touch and I love it! No reason to be weary of it . Once you try it you will love It's features! You can even check md5 sums with it. All I can say is its sweet! I was a little afraid at first because I was used to CWM, but the transition was a lot easier than I thought it would be! It's the easiest recovery I've ever used ! Backups are a snap. Restore is a snap! I just can't say enough great things about it. If you still question it just look at its ratings! Everyone loves it.
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buzzboy said:
I understand. And agree 4ext is without a doubt today's best recovery solution. I never doubted that fact.
But originally 4ext used CWM sources. So the Developer built the foundations of today's work from knowledge gained from using CWM in the beginning.
Anyway this is slightly off topic.
I'll leave you with a quote from Maddmaxx82 which is found at the footer of every 4ext thread.
Cheers.
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Look I think you missed the whole point of what I was saying in my post. Plus check my sig I make 4EXT themes so do really think I had not seen that in all the 4EXT themes already. In fact I started to mention something about that big about out to Koush in all of the threads but decided not to in my last post. Anyway back to my point. Koush made something great, then Maddmaxx82 took that great work and made it even better. And to be honest the things he has implemented in 4EXT probably could have been done with CWM but because CWM is so popular and supports so many devices it either was not fesable to imploment these changes. Or it was not considered necessary as CWM really had no viable challenger until TWRP and 4EXT was released. Custom recoveries are evolving and if CWM, even as great as it is, wants to keep up it needs to evolve too. And don't forget CWM does not support ext4 it only supports ext3.The Sensation uses ext4 natively so obviously 4EXT is the better recovery for the Sensation and any other device that uses ext4.

buzzboy said:
4ext without a doubt the best recovery I have used.
But remember how much we "Flash-Addicts" owe to CWM, for the endless use (And abuse) to our devices over the past years.
Without CWM there would be no 4ext recovery.
I personally call it a draw.
Cheers.
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+1

4ext all the way. You'd be a fool not to go with it.

How much of 4ext is still based on CWM, as the backup directory still resides within clockworkmod?

Sindroid said:
Touch over volume buttons aNy day.
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Except you can use the touch screen on CWM...

Rusty! said:
Except you can use the touch screen on CWM...
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CWM touch has up and down arrows.. its the same as using a volume button
4EXT touch has touch options.. completely different

Twrp the new, better, recovery?

Back in the day (droid eris days) there was cwm and twrp and twrp was thought of to cause more issues than anything so it was recommended to use cwm. Now it seems to have changed (at least regarding the gs3). Is this true? IS twrp that much better/stable/safer than cwm? I've never used twrp (have seen videos/screen shots) and it looks alot easier...well user friendly...just curious as to if it is more stable/safer or just as safe as cwm? When it comes to changing the recovery in a phone I view that as updating a bios in your computer...don't do it unless you really really need to (last time I upgraded a bios the power went out the same time....not a good day). Just curious as to fellow flashers opinion on the topic? Seems twrp has been getting alot more updates than cwm as well.
EI

Excessiveidling said:
Back in the day (droid eris days) there was cwm and twrp and twrp was thought of to cause more issues than anything so it was recommended to use cwm. Now it seems to have changed (at least regarding the gs3). Is this true? IS twrp that much better/stable/safer than cwm? I've never used twrp (have seen videos/screen shots) and it looks alot easier...well user friendly...just curious as to if it is more stable/safer or just as safe as cwm? When it comes to changing the recovery in a phone I view that as updating a bios in your computer...don't do it unless you really really need to (last time I upgraded a bios the power went out the same time....not a good day). Just curious as to fellow flashers opinion on the topic? Seems twrp has been getting alot more updates than cwm as well.
EI
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I only used TWRP, its so much more innovative and easy to use with the touch based interface and i have absolutely no problems with it.
Another another note, probably not the right forum for this thread lol...

Yea I wasn't sure if this was the right forum or not.... But figured recovery deals with development sooooooo...
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Excessiveidling said:
Yea I wasn't sure if this was the right forum or not.... But figured recovery deals with development sooooooo...
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You were still in the wrong. Plus, there's already a dedicated TWRP recovery thread in the dev section.
To answer your question, TWRP really is a nice recovery. I usually stay a few versions behind the latest because what works now is good enough for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either TWRP or CWM, but having used CWM for so long I wanted to see what else was out and TWRP didn't disappoint. It's as safe as a custom recovery can be flashing modified software not intended for your phone.
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