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B"H
Can this unit be rooted using the same Desire HD methods? i.e. - Downgrade, root, and flash new ROM?
My assumption is that it's basically the same hardware, no?
Thank you.
attn1 will be releasing rooting details on Sunday
I hope he has root already :-D
I am not yet an Android user. Will be getting Inspire on Monday. But I was wondering if people think it will be possible to unlock the tethering function after rooting and junk like that? I still have the unlimited data plan so that would be clutch.
Thanks.
You should be able to do this even without root by sideloading (using the sideload wonder machine) a third-party app
junefabrics.com/android/index.php
Very cool, will probably be using that then.
magnumforce2006 said:
You should be able to do this even without root by sideloading (using the sideload wonder machine) a third-party app
junefabrics.com/android/index.php
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That program only supports USB and BT tether though, which kinda sucks. No wifi = fail
rwon said:
That program only supports USB and BT tether though, which kinda sucks. No wifi = fail
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What exactly does that mean? That you have to connect your phone to the PC using the USB cable in order to tether?
dovid said:
B"H
Can this unit be rooted using the same Desire HD methods? i.e. - Downgrade, root, and flash new ROM?
My assumption is that it's basically the same hardware, no?
Thank you.
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Yes, that will work, but you won't have sound when you're done. The kernel drivers are slightly different and we don't have proper source code yet. Also, we want to flash back our radio.
In the meantime, we can use the kernel supplied in the at&t inspire with the DHD roms.
Also, the DHD ENG Hboot maybe be a little squirrely with our radio. We had some oddness, so I don't recommend flashing that.
Update: DHD ENG hboot issue closed - it was another problem. The DHD/MT4G eng Hboot is fine. I don't recooment that newbs flash this - it gives you nothing you can't already do and there is a real possibility of bricking the phone flashing it if you don't know what you're doing.
I am working on a kit that will have everything needed to get root and radio s-off, including scripts to make this a bit easier. You can do this on Windows (provided you have installed the right USB drivers), OSX or Linux.
Note: A gold card *WILL* be needed. I can't include that in the kit. You can save yourselves some time by looking up how to make a gold card and getting that done ahead of time. You will thank yourself for it.
attn1 said:
Yes, that will work, but you won't have sound when you're done. The kernel drivers are slightly different and we don't have proper source code yet. Also, we want to flash back our radio.
In the meantime, we can use the kernel supplied in the at&t inspire with the DHD roms.
Also, the DHD ENG Hboot maybe be a little squirrely with our radio. We had some oddness, so I don't recommend flashing that. I am working on a kit that will have everything needed to get root and radio s-off, including scripts to make this a bit easier. You can do this on Windows (provided you have installed the right USB drivers), OSX or Linux.
Note: A gold card *WILL* be needed. I can't include that in the kit. You can save yourselves some time by looking up how to make a gold card and getting that done ahead of time. You will thank yourself for it.
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Researching it now..
Update:
looks pretty simple.
Will the gold card need to be the card that I use for the phone after I root or can I just use any micro SDHC card and then replace it when I'm done?
slapdaddy said:
Will the gold card need to be the card that I use for the phone after I root or can I just use any micro SDHC card and then replace it when I'm done?
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I think its just to root the phone with and that's all.
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Props to attn1 for getting the inspire rooted this quickly. I got my phone on monday and by using his method (and his hours of help) it was rooted by early wednesday morning.
Now I am impatiently waiting for a compatible CM7.
Is there a minimum size for the sd card for gold card? Can the sd card be used for normal usage afterwards?
My luck will be that none of my 3 micro sd cards will work for a gold card.
really not looking forward to a gold card method. Although its not difficult might hold out for a version without the hassle.
I am looking how to do a Gold Card and I keep seeing that you need the phone in order to do it. Is that true? ATTN1 said get it done ahead of time, so can you do it without the phone?
I don't really care so much about custom rom's, all I want is wifi hotspot and hsupa being enabled.
Hope this isn't too complicated. I plan on buying the phone, trying it out stock, and if I decide to keep it, root it for the 2 features above.
Anyone know if this rooting methode is going to be compatible with the telus HTC Desire HD?
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Anyone know if this rooting methode is going to be compatible with the telus HTC Desire HD?
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In looking at the process that attn1 describes, it should work with Telus, however, you would probably need to flash the Telus kernel instead of the Inspire kernel and use the Telus radio instead of the Inspire radio just to be safe.
It looks like the kit that attn1 is putting together will have specific pieces for the Inspire. You may want to visit and search the DHD forum for rooting specifics about the Telus DHD.
Okay, I'm pretty sure no one on the sensation forums has posted a thread on this yet.
I'm fairly new to the Android experience. So sorry for any noobness this might seem.
So here's the deal, I'm really excited that the sensation got S-Off treatment a few days back (So I take it we can flash all sorts of custom ROMs right?). Though I'm fairly satisfied with the stock ROM on my sensation, I'll probably flash it in the near future (you know, when htc decides, it's no longer worthy of updates.) But what happens if I regret installing a certain ROM and want Stock sensation ROM back?
If you're lazy:
How do I get stock sensation ROM after having flashed a custom ROM?
Simple run a nandroid back up through cwm so you can revert to it
Clockwork mod
okay, so nandroid is an app I can get from the market right? Though I have no idea what cwm is, so... if you'd be kind enough, i'd love it if you could explain it to me. Also, does this back up to my micro sd card? And if so, is it in the form of a file/folder that i can copy to my computer?
thx in advance~
thanks! This seems like an awesome app!! So before I go and S-off my phone, is this any different from the other methods of flashing rom? and why is the recovery file amazingly small? 4.5megs for the sensation?
You can use the ruu.exe application from the development thread. Its an exe file you just need to run and it will flash over any rom and restore S-ON to your phone. The whole process takes about 5-7mins. I had done that since I s-off my sensation and realized it needed to be sent back for warranty (dust under screen).
aznknightz17 said:
You can use the ruu.exe application from the development thread. Its an exe file you just need to run and it will flash over any rom and restore S-ON to your phone. The whole process takes about 5-7mins. I had done that since I s-off my sensation and realized it needed to be sent back for warranty (dust under screen).
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It will change to ship s-on but not off. There is a guide in the dev section on how to make soff
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yueli93 said:
Okay, I'm pretty sure no one on the sensation forums has posted a thread on this yet.
I'm fairly new to the Android experience. So sorry for any noobness this might seem.
So here's the deal, I'm really excited that the sensation got S-Off treatment a few days back (So I take it we can flash all sorts of custom ROMs right?). Though I'm fairly satisfied with the stock ROM on my sensation, I'll probably flash it in the near future (you know, when htc decides, it's no longer worthy of updates.) But what happens if I regret installing a certain ROM and want Stock sensation ROM back?
If you're lazy:
How do I get stock sensation ROM after having flashed a custom ROM?
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Hi,
This thread will help you get s-off,and help you restore everything as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
It will give you CWM and you can make your NANDROID backup with it.
Info:
Inspire 4g rooted running Honey3D from the ROM Manager (Android 2.3.3 Sense 3.0)
Before I rooted the device when I upgraded to 2.3.3 from the official AT&T ROM I started having issues with device stability. I figured if I rooted and installed another ROM it would improve, but much to my dismay it hasn't. I will be doing simple things like texting and the device will lock up and require me to take the battery out to reboot. It has gotten worse in the past couple of weeks and I am hoping I can get some help here. It's so bad I *gasp* ordered a refurbed iPhone from Gamestop...but I am hoping I can get some help and be able to bring this device to it's former glory!
I have also noticed I cannot get through a full day with battery. Is this something that has to do with GB on the Inspire? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Inspire 4g rooted running Honey3D from the ROM Manager (Android 2.3.3 Sense 3.0)
Before I rooted the device when I upgraded to 2.3.3 from the official AT&T ROM I started having issues with device stability. I figured if I rooted and installed another ROM it would improve, but much to my dismay it hasn't. I will be doing simple things like texting and the device will lock up and require me to take the battery out to reboot. It has gotten worse in the past couple of weeks and I am hoping I can get some help here. It's so bad I *gasp* ordered a refurbed iPhone from Gamestop...but I am hoping I can get some help and be able to bring this device to it's former glory!
I have also noticed I cannot get through a full day with battery. Is this something that has to do with GB on the Inspire? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Well I know the Inspire has a pretty sub-standard battery life before rooting but as for instability, you my friend probably have some kind of a hardware issue. Typically, most lock-up issues I see are from bad flashes and unstable roms, in this case it seems you had some issues before the root which leads me to believe you have either some hardware issue or some kind of a compatibility issues. When you flash a new rom, make sure to always full wipe (wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, battery stats) before you flash a new rom. If you haven't done that already, try it and re flash the rom. May I suggest trying Bindroid for testing purposes as I know they have a very stable sense ROM.
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Info:
Inspire 4g rooted running Honey3D from the ROM Manager (Android 2.3.3 Sense 3.0)
Before I rooted the device when I upgraded to 2.3.3 from the official AT&T ROM I started having issues with device stability. I figured if I rooted and installed another ROM it would improve, but much to my dismay it hasn't. I will be doing simple things like texting and the device will lock up and require me to take the battery out to reboot. It has gotten worse in the past couple of weeks and I am hoping I can get some help here. It's so bad I *gasp* ordered a refurbed iPhone from Gamestop...but I am hoping I can get some help and be able to bring this device to it's former glory!
I have also noticed I cannot get through a full day with battery. Is this something that has to do with GB on the Inspire? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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I noticed that you said you are running Honey3D from ROM Manager? Does that mean you downloaded the ROM in app, through ROM Manager? That COULD be your problem, as I know sometimes downloads through the app aren't downloaded properly, completely, etc.
Try getting onto a desktop computer, downloading the ROM form the XDA site, and move it to your SD card, and THEN boot into recovery, full wipe, etc.
Try that. Let me know
I had similar issues on my stock rom (unrooted). ATT sent me a new battery as it was still under the 1yr warranty. That didn't solve the problem so they sent me a new refurb (with another new battery). No more problems - plus I now have two spare batteries. But as long as you are rooted, they are going to think that is the problem.
If it comes to the point where you have to send the phone back to ATT, just download the RUU from the HTC website, and update the phone back to the Stock Gingerbread 2.3 update. That will remove root and you'll be set
I will try these solutions tonight and see if I can get any of them to work.
I really do appreciate everyone's input. If I have to return to stock, is there anything special I need to do to unroot my phone? Like turning S-OFF back on ON?
Thanks again!
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I will try these solutions tonight and see if I can get any of them to work.
I really do appreciate everyone's input. If I have to return to stock, is there anything special I need to do to unroot my phone? Like turning S-OFF back on ON?
Thanks again!
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I believe there is a tool somewhere in the dev section to get everything back to stock..but more or less you'll need the stock RUU from HTC. I have never had to go back to stock so this is simply based on what I've seen/red and not so much based on experience lol
How do I check to see if S-OFF is back to S-ON? That's the main thing I am concerned with. Don't want them knowing I rooted and telling me it a no deal on a replacement if it comes to that.
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How do I check to see if S-OFF is back to S-ON? That's the main thing I am concerned with. Don't want them knowing I rooted and telling me it a no deal on a replacement if it comes to that.
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boot into HBOOT and at the top there should be something that says S-OFF (if you're S-OFF), to be honest I've had my phone rooted since day 1 so I have no idea what it actually says when its S-ON, I'm going to make a bold assumption, lol, that it would just say S-ON if it were S-ON...
Edit: the top line in HBOOT if S-Off should read something like "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF"
Any suggestions on ROM's?
I know it comes down to personal preference but I do value the opinion of others
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boot into HBOOT and at the top there should be something that says S-OFF (if you're S-OFF), to be honest I've had my phone rooted since day 1 so I have no idea what it actually says when its S-ON, I'm going to make a bold assumption, lol, that it would just say S-ON if it were S-ON...
Edit: the top line in HBOOT if S-Off should read something like "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF"
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It will say s-on in place of s-off
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Long ago, when I bought my Inspire 4G, my intent was to root it and install custom ROMs. With the old process using CMD to create a Gold Card, I also somehow created a file called "PD98IMG.zip". What I have learned is that, when on the SD card, when I place my phone into HBOOT, it will return to whatever that zip is, which is my stock rom. I'm not sure how I acquired it, but whatever.
Just in the last month or so, I dropped my phone in a toilet (don't ask), and I got it replaced with a new Inspire 4G. I was lucky that I had the water damage warranty. I went to go and root it like two days after I got it, only to discover that the old process didn't exist anymore, and wouldn't have worked with my Gingerbread-shipped Inspire 4G anyways. So I went off and used the Ace Hack Kit (worked flawlessly) and have been enjoying my time with the recently uploaded ICS ROM.
But when it comes to to get my phone replaced again (water damage, stolen, dropped, broken camera, broken volume or lock keys, etc.), will the "PD98IMG.zip" I had before work on my new device to put it back to stock? Or will this new device not accept a ROM from an older phone? And if so, what are my options for returning to the stock ROM using HBOOT?
Also, while I'm on HBOOT, does the said program worked on bricked devices? I would imagine you could access it anytime with the normal volume down+lock button, right, regardless of whether or not the device is bricked?
Thanks for reading this entire thing, I just like being really specific!
Jake Root
Haven't tried yet as I don't have reason too...but for educational purposes watch this to give you an exact idea of what said program is capable of...and always make sure using the latest version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eMcpoTPMU
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Most likely the older PD98IMG is for the froyo OS. I know they changed something in the Inspires after august and it may not work correctly with your newer made phone. Also just running that file will not give you s-on anyways. So just forget it.
Just use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. It can download the appropriate ROM and return your phone back to s-on. It is all you will need.
I appreciate the responses guys. Agoattamer, do you know if, running the Ace Hack Kit, there is a menu option in the hack-ace.cmd for returning to stock Android Gingerbread? I was reading the effin' manual, but because I am kind of a n00b, I only sort of understood it. I read the following:
Flash Gingerbread Update
Flash AT&T RUU 2.47.502.7_26.10.04.03_M
I have no idea what that means. Is this a menu option in the cmd?
Thanks again, I really don't want to screw anything up.
Cheers,
Jake
P.s. What is RUU? I keep seeing it but I'm not sure of its meaning.
Yes the hack kit has a menu for returning to stock. Ruu stands for rom update utility. Its essentially the program used to flash a stock image(where the pd98img comes from)
Check out the video see how the menu options look like.
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If you read the first post of the Advanced Ace Hack Kit thread (yes you have to read the first post and the effen manual) you will even see pics of the menu mentioned. We can't stress enough here on XDA, especially if you are new. Read, Read, Read.
So if I ever need s-on and return to stock I can just use the ace hack kit? Will it be just like the rooting process where it just does it for you? Sorry kinda new
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This is also a way to return to stock using a pd98img. Different method, same end result
genes tool
Just select gb version.
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Once again guys, I really appreciate your responses...a bit overwhelming, but every question I had was answered, so thanks!
Agoattamer, you are correct. I didn't look at that video close enough. I think I began watching it, and I thought it was something else, so I stopped and went on my way. Fatal mistake on my part.
Jake Root
I have been flashing for a while, and although not a pro by any means, I'm not a noobie either. I've looked for similar issues from others and have yet to find one that addresses this point specifically: I downloaded and attempted to utilize the PG58IMG.ZIP and repeatedly get the PU Fail. I saw another post relating to the issue being when you either accidentally or purposely try to flash it MORE THAN ONCE. I believe this is the mistake I made ( I was dumb enough to flash while riding in a car ). The issue is this: If I try to enter recovery from the 'outside' ; i.e. a completely turned off phone, with vol and on/off, I cannot use recovery. It will repeatedly make me go through the process of trying and failing to install this over and over. So, am I screwed? To tell the truth, I have no other issues with the phone, running ARHD 3.6.9, 4.1.9, or 5.0.2 as well as RCmix 3.5 v10 or ICS. BUt, if something happens to keep me from accessing recovery from within 4EXT, I will have a real problem. Now, I've seen the new RUU posting for ICS and would like to try it. Will this fix my problem? Is updating my HBOOT the answer? Is there any other way that I'm not thinking of? I don't often start threads with questions becuase I'm willing to find the answer through searching, but haven't found any direct answers to this particular part of the problem. Any help would be appreciated...
HTC Sensation 4G
HBOOT 1.17.1111
Radio 10.14.9035.01
Baseband 10.56.9035.000
Currently running:
RCMix 3.5 V010
2.3.5 w/ sense 3.5
Bricked XE 2.6.35.14
o/c to 1.78
So if you flash a lot of RUU ,you must have supercid?
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Silly question perhaps but have you deleted PG58IMG from your SD card and tried then?
wmoore said:
Silly question perhaps but have you deleted PG58IMG from your SD card and tried then?
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No, as a matter of fact, I re-downloaded it to be sure the one I had wasn't corrupted somehow. Still, no luck.
epsix said:
So if you flash a lot of RUU ,you must have supercid?
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I don't believe I do. Tried accomplishing that this morning, but permission denied. I flash many ROMs and add-ons, but have only flashed the original RUU to S-off and root.
Just to update, I activated the superCID from my laptop, no problems. Went with the new ICS RUU, and so far everything is sweet! Going to re-flash my ARHD 5.0.2 and then see what I have.
Well, ICS RUU, re-rooted, clockworkmod re-installed, busybox, and 4EXT. Flashed my ARHD 5.0.2 restore, and now I'm running HBOOT 1.20, Android 4.0.1, and it's all very smooth. Impressed! Apparently, if you get an update fail on your HBOOT, you can solve it by going to the next level, so to speak. Anyone out there have any viable suggestions on how to 'recover' their recovery without having to resort to this, I'm sure it would be good information to have. Otherwise, case closed!
Phone: HTC Sensation
ROM: Revolution HD 5.0.2 ICS
Kernel: Stock
Radio: 11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16_M
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Well, ICS RUU, re-rooted, clockworkmod re-installed, busybox, and 4EXT. Flashed my ARHD 5.0.2 restore, and now I'm running HBOOT 1.20, Android 4.0.1, and it's all very smooth. Impressed! Apparently, if you get an update fail on your HBOOT, you can solve it by going to the next level, so to speak. Anyone out there have any viable suggestions on how to 'recover' their recovery without having to resort to this, I'm sure it would be good information to have. Otherwise, case closed!
Phone: HTC Sensation
ROM: Revolution HD 5.0.2 ICS
Kernel: Stock
Radio: 11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16_M
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Delete PG58 file or pull sd card out
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Delete PG58 file or pull sd card out
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Tried both with no success. Even thought about downgrading to utilize an older HBOOT like some recommended. Decided if I had to go 'up' or 'down', I'd rather go up. Glad it worked out well. I saw some had a serious problem with other recent releases. Mike1986 is at the top of his game, so I'm grateful! Long Live ARHD! Just to be fair, RCMix does great work as well, its just an apples and oranges thing I guess. (No disrespect to any other developers, these are the only ones I've used )
UPDATE: The ROM itself is good and obviously has great potential, but I am having quite a few issues. It was suggested that System Tuner Pro would force open CPU 2 and give a boost, but it would not view my system as rooted,even after re-boots and permission fixes. 4EXT would freeze and FC in any operation, as would SD Speed Increase, Set CPU, and even Superuser. Font Installer didn't freeze the way some complained it did, but for me it would go through the required re-boot and have no change. Tried to backup with Clockworkmod (since 4EXT was failing), and the backup failed. SOooooo, in my opinion, it is good at this point for a daily user if you do JUST THAT, use it for common daily functions. But, for me at least, anything having to do with increasing performance or customization creates a problem. Not the end of the world, except that I'm a customization junkie, so its a bit of a deal breaker for me. One thing, a lot of people complained of wallpaper issues and failures; the DIY ownskin I was using had no issues. Then again, the wallpaper for the lockscreen DID fail. Oh well.... I know it'll get better. Restoring back for a while ....Mike 1986, RCMix, and all other hard working devs, keep up the good work, Getting better every day...
The last post was by no means any kind of a critique, I dabble but have no experience at this point as to what it takes to create these works, so I hope no one takes it as such. Just thought I would share my various experiences so others can gauge their own. I think that those who take the time to work these out are very talented and deserve praise regardless of glitches that happen without warning.
HTC Sensation 4G
HBOOT 1.20.1111
Radio 11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16_M
Currently running:
RCMix 3.5 V010
2.3.5 w/ sense 3.5
Bricked XE 2.6.35.14
o/c to 1.78
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The last post was by no means any kind of a critique, I dabble but have no experience at this point as to what it takes to create these works, so I hope no one takes it as such. Just thought I would share my various experiences so others can gauge their own. I think that those who take the time to work these out are very talented and deserve praise regardless of glitches that happen without warning.
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All fair comments. The devs do a great job on here but the sharing of experience and information by non-devs like you and me is also important
I have the same problem with Fail-PU