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I want to develop

Hi everybody i was wondering if there was any developer that could help me learn how to develop some roms and stuff for the sgs4g i really want to help. I'm 14 help me please need step by step instructions!!

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dear ssh678.
even though your ambition is highly admired, there are rules & regulations you need to read prior to posting.
this is probably what you're looking for.
~cheers

That thread is a dead end. What exactly are you trying to do? I can help you a little bit.
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this is the wrong place to post questions. mod please move this thread.

chris.... said:
That thread is a dead end. What exactly are you trying to do? I can help you a little bit.
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I'm just trying to learn how to make roms and kernels so if i wanted to make a rom my way with everything i want with a kernel that i made i would post it and let everybody try im a noob sorry... im just trying to make roms and kernels

ssh678 said:
I'm just trying to learn how to make roms and kernels so if i wanted to make a rom my way with everything i want with a kernel that i made i would post it and let everybody try im a noob sorry... im just trying to make roms and kernels
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Any programming experience?
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chris.... said:
Any programming experience?
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along with you wanna learn linux?
cause linux experence cough helps tons cough

RaverX3X said:
along with you wanna learn linux?
cause linux experence cough helps tons cough
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Yeah, plus Linux is awesome anyway
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well knowing how to read configure and install via source helps along with compileing kernels.. Hince why linux exp is a major plus

You need either Linux or a Mac to build from source anyway
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I'm gonna hijack the thread since the OP is taking too long to reply.
I have some experience with Linux. Programming experience with HTML, Javascript, PHP, Java and C/C++.
Any tips?

FBis251 said:
I'm gonna hijack the thread since the OP is taking too long to reply.
I have some experience with Linux. Programming experience with HTML, Javascript, PHP, Java and C/C++.
Any tips?
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get eclipse get the android sdk set them up also get the samsung sorce code from Samsung have a look at it
get fimmilar with complying your own kernels from source so on so forth read learn ask questions.
Dont be afraid of soft bricks

chris.... said:
You need either Linux or a Mac to build from source anyway
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ok i will dual boot linux with windows but i have no programming experience i will be taking classes in highschool but for now nothing so i need some major help thanks for helping! Any linux OS? Which one? i need link thanks! Also need to learn c++ Thanks......HELP!

ssh678 said:
ok i will dual boot linux with windows but i have no programming experience i will be taking classes in highschool but for now nothing so i need some major help thanks for helping! Any linux OS? Which one? i need link thanks!
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Ubuntu is pretty easy to use
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ubuntu is easy to learn.. Read read everything best advice i can give the reason i stated eclipse is u can test of a fake phone via the program without fear of killing ur own device for apps and what not lol thats always a plus

ssh678 said:
ok i will dual boot linux with windows but i have no programming experience i will be taking classes in highschool but for now nothing so i need some major help thanks for helping! Any linux OS? Which one? i need link thanks! Also need to learn c++ Thanks......HELP!
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You'll wanna learn Java, specifically, Object Oriented Programming. Stick to one of the more popular Linux distributions since it'll be easier to get your computer set up and deal with driver problems and the like. For now, maybe Ubuntu would be your best choice.

Come on, don't blame on me,but do you have any ideas of Linux otherwise this will be a thread with only HOW-TO install Linux and how to fetch repo and mod them to destroy the main reason they were build. TO WORK ON YOUR PHONE !
I don't want to be rude! Im only think that it is senseless to learn first android devin, when you never used Linux befor :/
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Borky_16 said:
Come on, don't blame on me,but do you have any ideas of Linux otherwise this will be a thread with only HOW-TO install Linux and how to fetch repo and mod them to destroy the main reason they were build. TO WORK ON YOUR PHONE !
I don't want to be rude! Im only think that it is senseless to learn first android devin, when you never used Linux befor :/
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hate to say it he does have a point with 0 prior experence u might wanna start learning linux first and foremost and work from there

Yeah but this thread is a good idea for people who are halfway there and want to learn
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never said it wasnt

[Q] DEVS only

I was just wondering do you need to be running linx to do any type of developing or can you use a windows based pc?

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1. it depends what you are trying to do.
Theming is going to work fine on PC.
if you want to build something, you're gonna need Ubuntu.. Preferably 10.04(LTS)

if you set up your build environment using Cygwin you can use windows to develop on

If you're gonna be trying to build ROMs/kernels from source though, you might wanna do it on either OS X or Linux.

FBis251 said:
If you're gonna be trying to build ROMs/kernels from source though, you might wanna do it on either OS X or Linux.
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it differently does simplify it just a note ONCE U GO LINUX you wont go back to win anything lol..

I think ill leave it up to you guys to dev i would love to learn but cant afford the new hardware so keep up the good work guys.

You don't need new hardware. Linux runs on everything.

FBis251 said:
You don't need new hardware. Linux runs on everything.
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can you recommend a link for linux and will i have to reconfigure all my computer files and programs to run or will they just work automatically

http://www.ubuntu.com/
you could dualboot windows and linux

ooohhaaahh said:
http://www.ubuntu.com/
you could dualboot windows and linux
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[Q]Help getting started with ROM developement

Hi, I am interested in starting some custom ROM work for our device. I am just looking for a little bit of direction on where to start. I understand things are a bit more complicated with our locked bootloader, but I know there is still a lot to be done. What are some good places to start tweaking performance? How about graphics and theming? if there is anything else I should know that would be great. I am not an extremely experienced programmer, but I have some experience and I am fairly comfortable tweaking system stuff. Lastly, Is there any way to get an emulater going for the A2? this would be very helpful for development to save the pain of boot loops and errors on our real device. thanks for everyone's help! Hopefully our development will take off for this phone once we get the bootloader bypass working or get it fully unlocked.

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tmease1 said:
This needs moved to general.
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ok sorry

I just want to get one thing out there. If you want to develop you will NEED Linux. It makes things a lot easier than using windows.

Moved to General to OP's request.

farshad525hou said:
I just want to get one thing out there. If you want to develop you will NEED Linux. It makes things a lot easier than using windows.
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I am currently quad booting Windows, my custom arch build, ubuntu, and debian, so I am set there! I prefer linux to windows anyways, i mostly use windows just for compatability, but I am in ubuntu right now

lkrasner said:
I am currently quad booting Windows, my custom arch build, ubuntu, and debian, so I am set there! I prefer linux to windows anyways, i mostly use windows just for compatability, but I am in ubuntu right now
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Wow impressive.. I just use Ubuntu on a virtual machine..

farshad525hou said:
Wow impressive.. I just use an Ubuntu virtual machine..
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Arch is pretty awesome if you have the patience/time to set it up. It's not that hard, just takes some work to figure it out

lkrasner said:
Arch is pretty awesome if you have the patience/time to set it up. It's not that hard, just takes some work to figure it out
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You'll also need a ROM kitchen to decompile ROM's, or you could just extract the zip and rezip... only problem is that if you make any major changes you need to write a new updater-script...

How to root..in Linux?

Ok so I have seen that we need Windows drivers and all that to root, I don't have a Windows machine, I have Linux Mint installed. Is there a way that I can root my Atrix 2 on linux?

X-jo said:
Ok so I have seen that we need Windows drivers and all that to root, I don't have a Windows machine, I have Linux Mint installed. Is there a way that I can root my Atrix 2 on linux?
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This sounds like a job for Jimbridgman (a.k.a. Linux god)...

I actually have a script that I need beta testers for that does root and fxz and a few other things if you want to be a guinea pig.
It works in linux and mac at the moment, windows will also soon be supported as well.
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jimbridgman said:
I actually have a script that I need beta testers for that does root and fxz and a few other things if you want to be a guinea pig.
It works in linux and mac at the moment, windows will also soon be supported as well.
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as the Rock says... Just Bring it !!

X-jo said:
as the Rock says... Just Bring it !!
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I will pm you with the link when I get home in a little while.
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jimbridgman said:
I actually have a script that I need beta testers for that does root and fxz and a few other things if you want to be a guinea pig.
It works in linux and mac at the moment, windows will also soon be supported as well.
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Hey Jim I would also be interested to test for you..... If you got source would be awesome just hooked my uncle (noob) with Ubuntu and an trying to teach him to compile/build from source..... This would kill 2 birds with one stone.....:highfive:

hankbizzo5 said:
Hey Jim I would also be interested to test for you..... If you got source would be awesome just hooked my uncle (noob) with Ubuntu and an trying to teach him to compile/build from source..... This would kill 2 birds with one stone.....:highfive:
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No source, it is all shell scripts, way easier this way....
I will include you in the alpha/beta test group. I am uploading to my andriodfiles.com directory now, when done I will ask for other testers, then PM everyone the link before the end of the day.

jimbridgman said:
No source, it is all shell scripts, way easier this way....
I will include you in the alpha/beta test group. I am uploading to my andriodfiles.com directory now, when done I will ask for other testers, then PM everyone the link before the end of the day.
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I'm assuming the initial links uploaded will be for Linux only? At any rate, I'll test for Win-d'ohs when you get that up for testing... thanks for working on this!
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Apex_Strider said:
I'm assuming the initial links uploaded will be for Linux only? At any rate, I'll test for Win-d'ohs when you get that up for testing... thanks for working on this!
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Right now, I just have Linux and OS X, windows is in the works, it is just not ready yet, and I have not included it in this version.

jimbridgman said:
No source, it is all shell scripts, way easier this way....
I will include you in the alpha/beta test group. I am uploading to my andriodfiles.com directory now, when done I will ask for other testers, then PM everyone the link before the end of the day.
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10-4 count me in .....

[COMMUNITY PROJECT] [DEV] New Android Emulator for Testing/Developing Custom Roms

I know the SDK has AVD, but it's outdated and extremely slow. You can install custom roms on it but only older ones because its based on the yaffs2 filesystem and most current roms use EXT4. I had high hopes for bluestacks too but its locked down pretty tight and I don't see us being able to flash roms to it anytime soon. We have emulators for pretty much everything else, something like this shouldn't be too hard if we work at it. Dynamic recompilation seems to be the best way to go, but feel free to give input if you feel otherwise.
I guess our starting point should be here: http://fms.komkon.org/EMUL8/HOWTO.html
The man who wrote the guide above is some high-end developer that builds emulators for Android, but he seems to be pretty knowledgeable. He has an email you can contact him if you need help with a specific thing: [email protected].
As they come in, I'll list all the information regarding developments in this project in the post below.

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Wow! Looks an excellent project for Devs
I have few questions
1. Will be there a possibility to define and emulate specific devices?
2. How ROMs are flashed, the emulator will have a recovery too?
3. How many of you are working on it?

varun.chitre15 said:
Wow! Looks an excellent project for Devs
I have few questions
1. Will be there a possibility to define and emulate specific devices?
2. How ROMs are flashed, the emulator will have a recovery too?
3. How many of you are working on it?
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1.) One of the goals would be hardware and kernel emulation, I would imagine they could be set as variables where you could input your own kernel and we could make some predefined hardware options for you to choose from. It would be hard but I think it could be done.
2.) I don't exactly know, but seeing as that's how we already do it we could try. Early alphas would probably be more of a "kitchen" where your menu is in the terminal and you manually put your files in the respective folders.
3.) Just me at the moment, I haven't found anyone to help. I haven't really made too much progress either, right now I'm decompiling AVD to figure out how it runs.

If this works, it would be a lifesaver. I say we should PM you any predefined device settings we want, and have a drop down list that automatically sets it. And to emulate recovery I don't see happening like on our devices, but maybe some of the wipe features, and flashing over a current rom? Also anything you need for help I can do, just ask. I'm good at design, and UI, just can't create it myself. And can you possible make it cross platform? Because I switch between windows and Linux.
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evodev said:
If this works, it would be a lifesaver. I say we should PM you any predefined device settings we want, and have a drop down list that automatically sets it. And to emulate recovery I don't see happening like on our devices, but maybe some of the wipe features, and flashing over a current rom? Also anything you need for help I can do, just ask. I'm good at design, and UI, just can't create it myself. And can you possible make it cross platform? Because I switch between windows and Linux.
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I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 right now, so it's going to be Linux at first but once its stable enough the plan is to make it cross-platform. And I do need help, I need all the help I can get! Hence community project haha.

flapflip22 said:
I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 right now, so it's going to be Linux at first but once its stable enough the plan is to make it cross-platform. And I do need help, I need all the help I can get! Hence community project haha.
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I can live with Linux at first. And I know, but I mean any help a non-coder can give. I will at least test it, and give some device specifics, but anything else that I can really do?
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evodev said:
I can live with Linux at first. And I know, but I mean any help a non-coder can give. I will at least test it, and give some device specifics, but anything else that I can really do?
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Either way, I appreciate the help! Ill PM you if I need a tester and you should pop in every once in awhile to see how things are coming along. I'm not going to lie, this is harder than I thought it was but it seems do-able the more I study AVD.
I'm thinking we might be able to change the filesystem on AVD to run EXT3/EXT4 and get it to run a little smoother and build it to run without eclipse, then modify it to fit our needs.

That's sound good. And anyone who would get the most use of it would be fine with a terminal based one right now, and you can work on a GUI later unless someone else helps you soon. I'll keep checking as this comes along, hopefully it won't take too long to get a preview working.
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I am too up for testing!
You can use Qt for GUI, its easy.
Its based on C++ and hence is very fast than other GUI libraries.

varun.chitre15 said:
I am too up for testing!
You can use Qt for GUI, its easy.
Its based on C++ and hence is very fast than other GUI libraries.
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Any chance you would know how to use it and can help him?
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evodev said:
Any chance you would know how to use it and can help him?
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Yes I can
You can see my tool in my signature. It is based on Qt

varun.chitre15 said:
Yes I can
You can see my tool in my signature. It is based on Qt
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That's good. And your sig isn't showing up in the tapatalk app.
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I feel pretty confident in this project, I'm going through Androids source code starting with 1.5

I've been thinking this over, it would be much easier to add EXT3 and EXT4 support to AVD and tweak it for speed. Im working on it now, ill try to get an early alpha out as soon as I can put it together.

flapflip22 said:
I've been thinking this over, it would be much easier to add EXT3 and EXT4 support to AVD and tweak it for speed. Im working on it now, ill try to get an early alpha out as soon as I can put it together.
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Great
Do lemme know if you need any help with GUI

Originally Posted by flapflip22
I've been thinking this over, it would be much easier to add EXT3 and EXT4 support to AVD and tweak it for speed. Im working on it now, ill try to get an early alpha out as soon as I can put it together.
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Great
Do lemme know if you need any help with GUI
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Will do!

I'm not asking for an eta or anything, but have you got anything working yet, or still looking at the code? I really want to try this out soon.
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What is the status?