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Hi everybody i was wondering if there was any developer that could help me learn how to develop some roms and stuff for the sgs4g i really want to help. I'm 14 help me please need step by step instructions!!
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dear ssh678.
even though your ambition is highly admired, there are rules & regulations you need to read prior to posting.
this is probably what you're looking for.
~cheers
That thread is a dead end. What exactly are you trying to do? I can help you a little bit.
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this is the wrong place to post questions. mod please move this thread.
chris.... said:
That thread is a dead end. What exactly are you trying to do? I can help you a little bit.
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I'm just trying to learn how to make roms and kernels so if i wanted to make a rom my way with everything i want with a kernel that i made i would post it and let everybody try im a noob sorry... im just trying to make roms and kernels
ssh678 said:
I'm just trying to learn how to make roms and kernels so if i wanted to make a rom my way with everything i want with a kernel that i made i would post it and let everybody try im a noob sorry... im just trying to make roms and kernels
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Any programming experience?
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chris.... said:
Any programming experience?
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along with you wanna learn linux?
cause linux experence cough helps tons cough
RaverX3X said:
along with you wanna learn linux?
cause linux experence cough helps tons cough
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Yeah, plus Linux is awesome anyway
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well knowing how to read configure and install via source helps along with compileing kernels.. Hince why linux exp is a major plus
You need either Linux or a Mac to build from source anyway
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I'm gonna hijack the thread since the OP is taking too long to reply.
I have some experience with Linux. Programming experience with HTML, Javascript, PHP, Java and C/C++.
Any tips?
FBis251 said:
I'm gonna hijack the thread since the OP is taking too long to reply.
I have some experience with Linux. Programming experience with HTML, Javascript, PHP, Java and C/C++.
Any tips?
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get eclipse get the android sdk set them up also get the samsung sorce code from Samsung have a look at it
get fimmilar with complying your own kernels from source so on so forth read learn ask questions.
Dont be afraid of soft bricks
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You need either Linux or a Mac to build from source anyway
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ok i will dual boot linux with windows but i have no programming experience i will be taking classes in highschool but for now nothing so i need some major help thanks for helping! Any linux OS? Which one? i need link thanks! Also need to learn c++ Thanks......HELP!
ssh678 said:
ok i will dual boot linux with windows but i have no programming experience i will be taking classes in highschool but for now nothing so i need some major help thanks for helping! Any linux OS? Which one? i need link thanks!
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Ubuntu is pretty easy to use
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ubuntu is easy to learn.. Read read everything best advice i can give the reason i stated eclipse is u can test of a fake phone via the program without fear of killing ur own device for apps and what not lol thats always a plus
ssh678 said:
ok i will dual boot linux with windows but i have no programming experience i will be taking classes in highschool but for now nothing so i need some major help thanks for helping! Any linux OS? Which one? i need link thanks! Also need to learn c++ Thanks......HELP!
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You'll wanna learn Java, specifically, Object Oriented Programming. Stick to one of the more popular Linux distributions since it'll be easier to get your computer set up and deal with driver problems and the like. For now, maybe Ubuntu would be your best choice.
Come on, don't blame on me,but do you have any ideas of Linux otherwise this will be a thread with only HOW-TO install Linux and how to fetch repo and mod them to destroy the main reason they were build. TO WORK ON YOUR PHONE !
I don't want to be rude! Im only think that it is senseless to learn first android devin, when you never used Linux befor :/
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Borky_16 said:
Come on, don't blame on me,but do you have any ideas of Linux otherwise this will be a thread with only HOW-TO install Linux and how to fetch repo and mod them to destroy the main reason they were build. TO WORK ON YOUR PHONE !
I don't want to be rude! Im only think that it is senseless to learn first android devin, when you never used Linux befor :/
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hate to say it he does have a point with 0 prior experence u might wanna start learning linux first and foremost and work from there
Yeah but this thread is a good idea for people who are halfway there and want to learn
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never said it wasnt
I was just wondering do you need to be running linx to do any type of developing or can you use a windows based pc?
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1. it depends what you are trying to do.
Theming is going to work fine on PC.
if you want to build something, you're gonna need Ubuntu.. Preferably 10.04(LTS)
if you set up your build environment using Cygwin you can use windows to develop on
If you're gonna be trying to build ROMs/kernels from source though, you might wanna do it on either OS X or Linux.
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If you're gonna be trying to build ROMs/kernels from source though, you might wanna do it on either OS X or Linux.
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it differently does simplify it just a note ONCE U GO LINUX you wont go back to win anything lol..
I think ill leave it up to you guys to dev i would love to learn but cant afford the new hardware so keep up the good work guys.
You don't need new hardware. Linux runs on everything.
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You don't need new hardware. Linux runs on everything.
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can you recommend a link for linux and will i have to reconfigure all my computer files and programs to run or will they just work automatically
http://www.ubuntu.com/
you could dualboot windows and linux
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http://www.ubuntu.com/
you could dualboot windows and linux
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I know the SDK has AVD, but it's outdated and extremely slow. You can install custom roms on it but only older ones because its based on the yaffs2 filesystem and most current roms use EXT4. I had high hopes for bluestacks too but its locked down pretty tight and I don't see us being able to flash roms to it anytime soon. We have emulators for pretty much everything else, something like this shouldn't be too hard if we work at it. Dynamic recompilation seems to be the best way to go, but feel free to give input if you feel otherwise.
I guess our starting point should be here: http://fms.komkon.org/EMUL8/HOWTO.html
The man who wrote the guide above is some high-end developer that builds emulators for Android, but he seems to be pretty knowledgeable. He has an email you can contact him if you need help with a specific thing: [email protected].
As they come in, I'll list all the information regarding developments in this project in the post below.
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Wow! Looks an excellent project for Devs
I have few questions
1. Will be there a possibility to define and emulate specific devices?
2. How ROMs are flashed, the emulator will have a recovery too?
3. How many of you are working on it?
varun.chitre15 said:
Wow! Looks an excellent project for Devs
I have few questions
1. Will be there a possibility to define and emulate specific devices?
2. How ROMs are flashed, the emulator will have a recovery too?
3. How many of you are working on it?
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1.) One of the goals would be hardware and kernel emulation, I would imagine they could be set as variables where you could input your own kernel and we could make some predefined hardware options for you to choose from. It would be hard but I think it could be done.
2.) I don't exactly know, but seeing as that's how we already do it we could try. Early alphas would probably be more of a "kitchen" where your menu is in the terminal and you manually put your files in the respective folders.
3.) Just me at the moment, I haven't found anyone to help. I haven't really made too much progress either, right now I'm decompiling AVD to figure out how it runs.
If this works, it would be a lifesaver. I say we should PM you any predefined device settings we want, and have a drop down list that automatically sets it. And to emulate recovery I don't see happening like on our devices, but maybe some of the wipe features, and flashing over a current rom? Also anything you need for help I can do, just ask. I'm good at design, and UI, just can't create it myself. And can you possible make it cross platform? Because I switch between windows and Linux.
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evodev said:
If this works, it would be a lifesaver. I say we should PM you any predefined device settings we want, and have a drop down list that automatically sets it. And to emulate recovery I don't see happening like on our devices, but maybe some of the wipe features, and flashing over a current rom? Also anything you need for help I can do, just ask. I'm good at design, and UI, just can't create it myself. And can you possible make it cross platform? Because I switch between windows and Linux.
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I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 right now, so it's going to be Linux at first but once its stable enough the plan is to make it cross-platform. And I do need help, I need all the help I can get! Hence community project haha.
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I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 right now, so it's going to be Linux at first but once its stable enough the plan is to make it cross-platform. And I do need help, I need all the help I can get! Hence community project haha.
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I can live with Linux at first. And I know, but I mean any help a non-coder can give. I will at least test it, and give some device specifics, but anything else that I can really do?
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evodev said:
I can live with Linux at first. And I know, but I mean any help a non-coder can give. I will at least test it, and give some device specifics, but anything else that I can really do?
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Either way, I appreciate the help! Ill PM you if I need a tester and you should pop in every once in awhile to see how things are coming along. I'm not going to lie, this is harder than I thought it was but it seems do-able the more I study AVD.
I'm thinking we might be able to change the filesystem on AVD to run EXT3/EXT4 and get it to run a little smoother and build it to run without eclipse, then modify it to fit our needs.
That's sound good. And anyone who would get the most use of it would be fine with a terminal based one right now, and you can work on a GUI later unless someone else helps you soon. I'll keep checking as this comes along, hopefully it won't take too long to get a preview working.
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I am too up for testing!
You can use Qt for GUI, its easy.
Its based on C++ and hence is very fast than other GUI libraries.
varun.chitre15 said:
I am too up for testing!
You can use Qt for GUI, its easy.
Its based on C++ and hence is very fast than other GUI libraries.
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Any chance you would know how to use it and can help him?
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evodev said:
Any chance you would know how to use it and can help him?
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Yes I can
You can see my tool in my signature. It is based on Qt
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Yes I can
You can see my tool in my signature. It is based on Qt
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That's good. And your sig isn't showing up in the tapatalk app.
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I feel pretty confident in this project, I'm going through Androids source code starting with 1.5
I've been thinking this over, it would be much easier to add EXT3 and EXT4 support to AVD and tweak it for speed. Im working on it now, ill try to get an early alpha out as soon as I can put it together.
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I've been thinking this over, it would be much easier to add EXT3 and EXT4 support to AVD and tweak it for speed. Im working on it now, ill try to get an early alpha out as soon as I can put it together.
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Great
Do lemme know if you need any help with GUI
Originally Posted by flapflip22
I've been thinking this over, it would be much easier to add EXT3 and EXT4 support to AVD and tweak it for speed. Im working on it now, ill try to get an early alpha out as soon as I can put it together.
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Great
Do lemme know if you need any help with GUI
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Will do!
I'm not asking for an eta or anything, but have you got anything working yet, or still looking at the code? I really want to try this out soon.
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What is the status?
Hi guys, i googled so much about that but everything is for linux. I found some tutorials but now im stuck. I need some dev or anyone who uses git, compiling with sources and applying diff on windows, to teach me some steps. I know how to download source codes, but dunno which to use for what and how. Basically i "just" need to apply diff to source code and compile.
I am posting this here because here are great devs and people, and also i would like to compile for nexus s.
I hope someone could help me with that.
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Not to be rude, but why not just use Linux?
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das_webos_transformer said:
Not to be rude, but why not just use Linux?
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Because virtual box is not stable, and i have important data on PC, and installed, also i use PC for gaming. i dont want to set up all over again.
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alen1901 said:
Because virtual box is not stable, and i have important data on PC, and installed, also i use PC for gaming. i dont want to set up all over again.
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You can use ubuntu's wubi installer to install Ubuntu in windows, in such a way that it doesn't involve creating new partitions or messing with bootloaders.
bedalus said:
You can use ubuntu's wubi installer to install Ubuntu in windows, in such a way that it doesn't involve creating new partitions or messing with bootloaders.
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How much space does it uses when installed? Im low. also, do you know, what sources i need to download if i want to apply one of evilisto mods? Framework_base and app package settings? Because if i download all sources on my drive it will take a lot od GBs and download will last forever. Or there is not a way other than full download?
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Usually not. I have desperate hard drive forw windows. If your low on space to that point maybe you should invest in a new hard drive.
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das_webos_transformer said:
Usually not. I have desperate hard drive forw windows. If your low on space to that point maybe you should invest in a new hard drive.
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Im just low on c(Windows partition), d has a lot of place i guess ill have to give it up. I cant let pc download and compile 2 days.
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Get a smaller distro and its no biggie on space. Not like puppy dog but maybe kbuntu xbuntu, etc
Or anything debbain, really, saves loads of time. Gentoo is hard to learn, gotta be good at linux for it.
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Im just low on c(Windows partition), d has a lot of place i guess ill have to give it up. I cant let pc download and compile 2 days.
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I'm sure the ubuntu wubi installer will let you specify D: as the target drive.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
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I'm sure the ubuntu wubi installer will let you specify D: as the target drive.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
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I will try this weekend. Tnx.
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I installed ubuntu, now only need to download sources. And let the party begin. I hope.
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alen1901 said:
I installed ubuntu, now only need to download sources. And let the party begin. I hope.
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Cool. I've subscribed to this thread in case you need more help
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Cool. I've subscribed to this thread in case you need more help
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Guess what, i need help. i put sources to download few hours, i was out on a drink. When i came back, ubuntu was frozen. Mouse, keyboard, picture, terminal. So i could just hit restart button and i lost all what was downloaded until that. Do you know what might couse that? I put 10gb for instalation on wubi. Now i installed it again with 20gb and i will try again. Maybe i was low on ubuntu partition space?
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Guess what, i need help. i put sources to download few hours, i was out on a drink. When i came back, ubuntu was frozen. Mouse, keyboard, picture, terminal. So i could just hit restart button and i lost all what was downloaded until that. Do you know what might couse that? I put 10gb for instalation on wubi. Now i installed it again with 20gb and i will try again. Maybe i was low on ubuntu partition space?
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Probably, I think 20gb is probably not enough for compiling a whole ROM. Go for 100GB and allow a generous swap space, at least 16GB. If you are compiling the kernel, 20gb will be enough, and you won't need as much swap either.
But one you get used to Ubuntu you'll probably want to keep it, so you might as well allocate as much space as you can.
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Probably, I think 20gb is probably not enough for compiling a whole ROM. Go for 100GB and allow a generous swap space, at least 16GB. If you are compiling the kernel, 20gb will be enough, and you won't need as much swap either.
But one you get used to Ubuntu you'll probably want to keep it, so you might as well allocate as much space as you can.
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On installation i can choose from 2gb-35gb for ubuntu. Not higher. But i have 120gb of free disk. And why i need swap etc. I just need to download rom sources, apply diff patch and compile.
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Wubi sucks, slow, instability....imho.
Your other option is to delete everything off d: that you can afford to lose, then use the ordinary Ubuntu install disk to repartition d: manually before installing.
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Wubi sucks, slow, instability....imho.
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Yeah i noticed its slow like hell haha.
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Your other option is to delete everything off d: that you can afford to lose, then use the ordinary Ubuntu install disk to repartition d: manually before installing.
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Nah, i dont want to do that. I just want to try this out, if it works, i would maintain mods for few most popular roms(or make only for myself), but i wouldnt use ubuntu and that stuff every day. Thats why i hoped i can do it like mentioned in posts.
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Hey guys,
After having nearly lost all my data because android would not recognize my Decryption password I would like to try to compile frost.
I don't know if it will work for the HTC one but I really want to give it a try to help out other people who might have to factory reset due to encrytion problems.
It looks fairly simple to compile it, only I have never compiled any kernel .img before.
Before I actually try to compile it I would like to get advice on how best to do it and what to avoid while compilling.
Again I really want to get this compiled for the HTC one as this had me in a really bad spot.
https://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/frost
I know there are some questions in here but I really do want to get it compiled for you guys in this thread to have a way of possibly recovering encrypted data.
Anyone else up for the challange?
What?
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What?
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What sort of reply is that?
I can help you compile it
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What?
You need to be a bit more specific
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What sort of reply is that?
I can help you compile it
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Thanks MacHackz. I really think alot of people could benefit from having a tool to recover encrypted data.
All I can say is I'm willing to try everything
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Thanks MacHackz. I really think alot of people could benefit from having a tool to recover encrypted data.
All I can say is I'm willing to try everything
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Firstly you need linux, and afaik this will only work on 4.1.2 right now
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Firstly you need linux, and afaik this will only work on 4.1.2 right now
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Yeah I seen it will only work on 4.1.2 but lucky enough HTC hasn't update all devices to 4.2.2 yet .
I have a Ubuntu virtual machine setup for doing the compiling. Just installing required items now.
Should have everything setup tomorrow to start compilling
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Yeah I seen it will only work on 4.1.2 but lucky enough HTC hasn't update all devices to 4.2.2 yet .
I have a Ubuntu virtual machine setup for doing the compiling. Just installing required items now.
Should have everything setup tomorrow to start compilling
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Seems like you already know how
Edit: After further discussion we have decided to re-open this thread.
For now, lets leave it in general, once some development has been done we can talk about moving it back to development
Just wanted to say thank you for XDA for allowing us to start work in FROST.
I'm currently discussing FROST with a few other XDA'ers who are also interested in helping me out and getting this developed.
Once I know more (hopefully this evening) I will post an update.
Again thanks XDA for allowing this to be done
So u got the thread up, Awesome. Shoot me a pm when ya ready...
Welcome to your new home FROST
I'd like to help as well
I've got Eclipse/ADT set up ready to use for a couple of App ideas I've got. If it's just compiling Android code, I''m happy to help.
I've just finished a degree in Computer Security & Forensics (2:1) with a dissertation on Android security & security awareness. Prior to that I'v been a Systems Analyst and developer for a number of years (Mainframe/Unix/Microsoft). so although I'm fairly new to Android, I know my way roind an IDE or terminal editor and I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty woth code.
Nice to hear man, and looking forward to getting started.
Ive had a few issues with my pc and have got most of it sorted now. So of all goes well i will be able to start work after many delays
And I could definitely use you help if you can man
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lol, just have seen this.
The link to the University of Erlangen has some pretty neat resources, but I currently have no android phone to try making such a recovery image for.
For the case of (hopefully) your own phone you are trying to get the /data back: This software relies on the device having been unlocked not long ago. If the device was not unlocked for a week or so, you have no real chance of the keys being still in ram.
If you have a weak PIN, its bruteforce feature might work, if you have a strong one it may take very long. I'd recommend you to make a bit level image of the /data partition just in case (type man dd in your commandline in linux, the dd tool should also be in phone recoveries). And possibly try to encrypt it on your desktop that propably gets it done faster. Also you do not need to make a device specific recovery and you dont need to cross compile.
Also this: http://www1.cs.fau.de/filepool/projects/frost/frost.crackpin.tgz
might just work. Read through the README file in the archive, its straightforward.
thx good thing to konw
There's a reason they freeze the phone. If you hope to recover the keys from a phone that is powered off for anything like 5 mins or more forget it :/ . (The time really depends on the memory chips)
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It looks fairly simple to compile it, only I have never compiled any kernel .img before.?
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Is thia project still being worked on, @darks1der? It looks promising!
Hey the project is being worked on however it is going slower that expected due to alot of personal issue's.
I hope to have everything resolved ASAP so I can devote my self to FROST
darks1der said:
Hey the project is being worked on however it is going slower that expected due to alot of personal issue's.
I hope to have everything resolved ASAP so I can devote my self to FROST
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Will FROST be able to recover deleted files from the phones internal storage? I'll send strength your way so that you'll get your life to awesomeness again.
FROST only works if your bootloader is unlocked. Since unlocking your bootloader wipes data you're screwed (unless there's some hack to prevent this for your device bootloader). Image the phone or copy the encryption header and try to brute force/dictionary attack your own password key as much as you want without worrying about data being wiped. Download Kali Linux live CD maybe it has some Android forensics tools I think it does. If not google around for 'android brute force encryption' somebody will have tools to do this.