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Quick question... I'm thinking of getting my Des S unlocked at a phone shop (it's factory unlocked to all networks, but is S - On). If I have this done, will this process normally s off the phone automatically, or do I need to make sure they use XTC clip. It's just that I'm not sure they'll know what I'm on about if I start talking about S off.

I bought a HTC Desire S from free and I would like to know how to it unlocked permanently also.
I hear you can do it online, offline, using a cable...

at the moment only option is to use XTC clip or XTC clip payngo (or how it is called)... hopefully alpharevx will be released soon and everyone will be able to S-OFF for free without any special hardware
look at this thread, maybe someone near you already bought an XTC clip and can S-OFF your phone
btw, next time try to use search before posting, there are few threads about this already....

The terminology you guys use to alien to new users;
XTC Clip?
S-OFF?
I believe people search before asking a question, if it doesn't make sense you have to create a thread right?
Is there a guide around?

There is, so I'll keep quiet and read it.

You might like to Google this, read all about it first. I have not tested it on the S as mine is already unlocked but it worked on the Desire.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14243239/HTC-Desire-unlock_v0.2a.iso
AT YOUR OWN RISK

InfernalByte said:
You might like to Google this, read all about it first. I have not tested it on the S as mine is already unlocked but it worked on the Desire.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14243239/HTC-Desire-unlock_v0.2a.iso
AT YOUR OWN RISK
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This thread apart from being completely unnecessary and a duplication of many already existing threads is about S-OFF unlocking and not network unlocking so this post isn't relevant.
Besides products that are for the DESIRE shouldn't be suggested to newcomers for the Desire S especially not with the tagline AT YOUR OWN RISK .....IMO

There is a risk involved whether your a new comer or not, and please excuse the fact that I have replied to a genuine concern but I don't have the time to trawl through everything before trying to help.
I have too many hands on my time!
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ben_pyett said:
This thread apart from being completely unnecessary and a duplication of many already existing threads is about S-OFF unlocking and not network unlocking so this post isn't relevant.
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@InfernalByte
This part of my post wasn't directed at you, but the original poster, although the last part was....
Apology for my tone, I've had a sh1t day literally - the house drain backed up and I've been up to the elbows in poo for the last couple of hours, thankfully all sorted now, just in time for returning to work Ahhh!!!

can someone from toronto soup up my rogers one x?

Hi I just tried to unlock bootloader on htcdev.com on my Rogers htc one x; and got confused not even half way through; despite majoring in computer science at university.
I know, I know, I am a shame to the internetz.
Can anyone install a custom rom for me in the Toronto area?
I will bring with me either a 6 pack beer or 3 tall cans, your pick.
However if you try to lure me into a sketchy alleyway or I feel that you are up to no good, I will have to call it off and run away.
So yea, if you are willing to install a custom rom for me for some beer, then please do.
** or if you could let me know if there's an easier way to unlock bootloader, I could probably do it myself!

Wont get any easier than this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284

mediumsteak said:
Hi I just tried to unlock bootloader on htcdev.com on my Rogers htc one x; and got confused not even half way through; despite majoring in computer science at university.
I know, I know, I am a shame to the internetz.
Can anyone install a custom rom for me in the Toronto area?
I will bring with me either a 6 pack beer or 3 tall cans, your pick.
However if you try to lure me into a sketchy alleyway or I feel that you are up to no good, I will have to call it off and run away.
So yea, if you are willing to install a custom rom for me for some beer, then please do.
** or if you could let me know if there's an easier way to unlock bootloader, I could probably do it myself!
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I wouldn't pay somebody to put a ROM on your phone, or you'll have to pay somebody every time you want to update it. You aren't going to want to sick with the same ROM for the next 2 years. Spend some time reading the forum and follow the instructions and you should be fine.

Where in Toronto are you? If you're close enough, I'll do it for fun. Shoot me a pm, I'll teach you too on the process.
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Agree to the previous responses. Just start reading, and figure out the process. We all had to fumble through as n00bs and learn from scratch. Any knowledge you gain will not only help any future mods on this phone, but also on any phones you get in the future. You don't want to have to get people to root every phone you buy.
I understand that the process and terminology can be intimidating for a beginner. But its really not that hard once you put in some time and effort. If you were smart enough to be computer science major, you can certainly handle it. It just takes some reading, and being able to follow instructions carefully.

It's probably like the whole "riding a bike" thing. Once you know, you know forever. It's just a matter of muddling through on our own that first time out, with all the inherent risks of bricking and public shame - OR recruiting some local talent to show you the ropes the first time out. Like dad jogging next to you after he took your training wheels off.
So with all that, I thought about asking this same question in Long Island NY. But the only ROM I'd really consider would be CleanROM based on 2.20 - but there's that pesky linkify issue and the tethering problems I've read about. So I guess I don't need the assist.
Unless someone's giving a Nandroid 101 seminar nearby...

The most confusing part for me when unlocking from htcdev was using android SDK. I'm a big noob like you too man, I didn't know anything about it when I got my phone 2 weeks ago and spent atleast a week reading stuff before I even tried anything.
Maybe try youtube-ing some android SDK videos to get an idea how it works.
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I keep reading the title of this post as Tomato soup...

gunnyman said:
I keep reading the title of this post as Tomato soup...
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LOL ME 2
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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Opinions on rooting HTC One X.

I am exchanging my 3.18 One X for a 2.20. I am very excited to root and learn and hopefully not brick too much.
What are your opinions on rooting and experiences with the HTC One X?
Has it been a fun time full of enjoyable learning and sweet ROM's? What are your favorite ROM's and why?

Stormlotus said:
I am exchanging my 3.18 One X for a 2.20. I am very excited to root and learn and hopefully not brick too much.
What are your opinions on rooting and experiences with the HTC One X?
Has it been a fun time full of enjoyable learning and sweet ROM's? What are your favorite ROM's and why?
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You won't regret it. Best experience ever.
You will get mad.... And disappointed.... but it's so worth it.
-Sugardaddy Duncan

Unless you're impatient you'll like rooting... Take it slow and don't brick your phone.
Not allowed to post what your favorite ROMs are really... Mine is in my signature.

If you have to ask then maybe it's best you don't.
Not insulting you, but inexperienced users are just generally...annoying, especially if they don't read and immediately call for help. Before you decide, go read the rooting thread's instructions. Then read the comments about people who have had problems. Ask yourself if you could solve problems like this if it came down to it. If you decide you want to, go for it!

just root the phone

Mister J said:
If you have to ask then maybe it's best you don't.
Not insulting you, but inexperienced users are just generally...annoying, especially if they don't read and immediately call for help. Before you decide, go read the rooting thread's instructions. Then read the comments about people who have had problems. Ask yourself if you could solve problems like this if it came down to it. If you decide you want to, go for it!
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This. However, on one hand he did go so far to exchange his phone for one that was rootable. Perhaps he read something before hand. Hell maybe he'll even continue this trend.
Sent from my HTC One XL

ECEXCURSION said:
This. However, on one hand he did go so far to exchange his phone for one that was rootable. Perhaps he read something before hand. Hell maybe he'll even continue this trend.
Sent from my HTC One XL
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Yes I have done quite a bit of reading. Unlocking the boot loader is new to me since I used to have an Infuse. I must have flashed it 30 or so times over my two year contract. My Mom and I got our Infuses at the same time, but what puzzled me was that no matter which ROMs I used over the course of my two year contract, her stock phone always seemed to be faster and more responsive, lol. To this day two years later she's still rocking the stock Froyo Infuse and it's running superbly.
I am one of those jack of all trades types that can follow instructions well, but never have a crystal clear understanding of what's really happening under the hood. Coding and development interest me and are fascinating, but I am not passionate about it by any means. The guides and tools that people come up with like Hasoon2000's tool are really great, and allow thousands more people who would never dare try and unlock their boot loaders a fighting chance.
I don't really know where I'm going with this, but yeah... this is a cool forum for sure. I've been silently observing it for a few years.

I'm not allowed to say my favorites, but I can tell you by experience the official CM10.1 nightlies have been VERY solid lately. Combine that with a few other tweaks (radio, kernel), getting the settings perfect and just getting to know android (I came from an iPhone 3GS that was waaay past its due date), I'm just in love with this phone.
Unlocking the bootloader wasn't even an annoyance to me; until I started lurking here more I thought it was just standard procedure for rooting phones. Even though rooting it, flashing ROMs and achieving S-Off for the first time was a huge headache, im glad I did it. This phone FLYS.
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Stormlotus said:
I am exchanging my 3.18 One X for a 2.20. I am very excited to root and learn and hopefully not brick too much.
What are your opinions on rooting and experiences with the HTC One X?
Has it been a fun time full of enjoyable learning and sweet ROM's? What are your favorite ROM's and why?
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You ever heard of that song, "I GOT THE POWER!"? That is exactly how you will fell. Go for it. Different ROMs have different taste. Some people still prefer sense, while others like the ones based off of CM. Everything in my SIG you should be able to achieve as I have 2.20 also
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Do it - that's why you bought an android phone anyway right?
The devs here have some great roms and as long as you read up enough you won't stuff phone. Enjoy.
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Am i ready to root?

Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."

Nice write up exad
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL

I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!

Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"

No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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a box of kittens said:
This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.

exad said:
There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF

I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.

Great work I will add it to my FAQ

Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:

Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.

I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB

It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.

Organized_Chaos said:
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)

exad said:
no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?

[Q] s-off 3g issue

Hi,
I just bought a one s and read through the forums for root, s-off and so on.
Compared to my EVO 3D and Sensation, s-off seems to be less painfull since there are some convenient exploits around that don't need any hardware actions (as the wire trick or soft brick the device).
But I got a little bit concerned about some posts claiming that after s-off the 3g connectivity got lost,
though reading the threads of the latest/greatest custom roms, there's nothing mentioned.
There's one dedicated thread in dev section, but I found no clear statement on how this is to fix.
Some state, that simply changing rom helps to get 3g back.
Some say it's a radio thing.
One member described a method where memory block is manipulated, but this also didn't work for all.
Till now I s-offed each htc phone I owned immediately, but now I'm getting doubts.
I'd appreciate any feedback on this from you experienced ville users out there.

To save you money, time and grief DONT DO IT.
Surely me and most everyone else is thankful that these guys spend time developing and tinkering but I screwed 2 One S,
that is when those disclaimers kick in, and I also looked, not exhaustively, for a skilled JTAG tech/user, the guy I sent it to
said he couldn't figure it out.
Maybe someone here can; most people that JTAG said that doing it to that phone is hard because it has to be taken apart.
Honestly, S-Off would make sense if its a new device to come in the market, as you have noticed, most ROMs and apps just
disappeared and the latest radio put together by someone in here is a 1.35.XX.XX. Since ROMs are limited, and most developers
dont even bother with this device just leave it alone. If flashing the radios is what you want, try the Aroma radio installer for Sense,
if I remember correctly, I think I flashed a radio while running SlimROM and the radio did not reset after reboot.
P.S. If you decide to do it, before hand, find a JTAG tech that has experience with it and can fix this problem, and post it here, please.
I'm still holding on to it in case I find such a person.

sns00 said:
To save you money, time and grief DONT DO IT.
Surely me and most everyone else is thankful that these guys spend time developing and tinkering but I screwed 2 One S,
that is when those disclaimers kick in, and I also looked, not exhaustively, for a skilled JTAG tech/user, the guy I sent it to
said he couldn't figure it out.
Maybe someone here can; most people that JTAG said that doing it to that phone is hard because it has to be taken apart.
Honestly, S-Off would make sense if its a new device to come in the market, as you have noticed, most ROMs and apps just
disappeared and the latest radio put together by someone in here is a 1.35.XX.XX. Since ROMs are limited, and most developers
dont even bother with this device just leave it alone. If flashing the radios is what you want, try the Aroma radio installer for Sense,
if I remember correctly, I think I flashed a radio while running SlimROM and the radio did not reset after reboot.
P.S. If you decide to do it, before hand, find a JTAG tech that has experience with it and can fix this problem, and post it here, please.
I'm still holding on to it in case I find such a person.
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OP is four month old ...
I never screwed up ANY HTC phone, because they are pretty nice to handle. If the phone fits the prerequisites S-OFF is easy to gain. That users screw their phones by wrong handling is not the dev's fault

Well, good for you:victory:. Since you know so much, why not show everyone else how to properly handle the device?
Did not mentioned methods/names, so I think I did not offended anyone. If software/hardware did not break, there wouldn't
be a disclaimer on the device and on the software.
That the post is 4 months old is irrelevant, we are not the only ones with One S. Next time provide a solution along with criticism.
If this post offended anyone in any way shape or form, complain to a moderator so my post can be erased.
LS.xD said:
OP is four month old ...
I never screwed up ANY HTC phone, because they are pretty nice to handle. If the phone fits the prerequisites S-OFF is easy to gain. That users screw their phones by wrong handling is not the dev's fault
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sns00 said:
Well, good for you:victory:. Since you know so much, why not show everyone else how to properly handle the device?
Did not mentioned methods/names, so I think I did not offended anyone. If software/hardware did not break, there wouldn't
be a disclaimer on the device and on the software.
That the post is 4 months old is irrelevant, we are not the only ones with One S. Next time provide a solution along with criticism.
If this post offended anyone in any way shape or form, complain to a moderator so my post can be erased.
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I'm fine with your post I try to help in any case I can. Since today I "bricked" one Samsung phone by following a incorrect guide from another forum, cost me 40$ to repair the bootloader. But that can happen and its totally okay for me and I won't stop modding phones just because of it. For most users S-OFF works without any problem and grant a lot of benefits. So just because you screwed up two One S you can't tell other members to don't set their phone S-OFF as it will probably brick...

Dude, they will do whatever they want with their devices, regardless of what you , me or anyone say.
And the same way you can speak your piece, I can speak my piece, so do not tell me that I can't say this or that. If you don't like what others have to say, there's a number of things you could do instead of reading what I type.
Just sharing an experience that things can go wrong, as it just happened to you. S-Off'ing a phone is something I wouldn't pontificate to a regular user, because if things don't work out I'm not going to pay for a replacement or repair costs. That mod is a "at your own risk" as most other mods are. Do you realize we are a minority, a big chunk of the world don't even install themes on their devices, millions of locked bootloaders, billions of S-On devices and I had nothing to do with it; what are you going to do about that?
S-On works for me, so far, with my M8 GPe, I don't earn a living working with phones or anything related to it, I don't even know how to make a simple app, so what I post is not the gospel, as I assumed it is implied.
"For MOST users S-OFF works..." I rest my case.
LS.xD said:
I'm fine with your post I try to help in any case I can. Since today I "bricked" one Samsung phone by following a incorrect guide from another forum, cost me 40$ to repair the bootloader. But that can happen and its totally okay for me and I won't stop modding phones just because of it. For most users S-OFF works without any problem and grant a lot of benefits. So just because you screwed up two One S you can't tell other members to don't set their phone S-OFF as it will probably brick...
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sns00 said:
"For MOST users S-OFF works..."
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Most off the poeple, who set their HTC One S and other HTC devices S-OFF, still enjoy a working phone after this modification.
Better?
I just got one question left.
After you broke one HTC One S, why you did you risk doing (probably the same thing) again?