Just manually checked my wife's HTC software update, and it finally has the Android 4.0 ICS Sense 3.6, I d/l'd it, but havent installed it yet. Is there any reason I shouldn't update, say if I decided to root it anytime in the future?
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It will be best to root before update.because it will be a whole lot easier with the hboot version you have now. You should be able now to use revolutionary and if you update, It's likely you will no
longer able to use it depending on your hboot. Revolutionary supports certain hboot versions and some ics might not be supported. This is my understanding and I was also told the same thing. So I rooted on revolutionary then updated to 4.0.3 and custom Rom .of course its possible to root after update, just more difficult in my opinion. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Hope this helped out a bit.
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That is helpful, thanks. I am kinda curious to compare it to my Sensation, rooted on 4.0.3 AHRD sense 3.6. Hers is still completely stock.
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That is helpful, thanks. I am kinda curious to compare it to my Sensation, rooted on 4.0.3 AHRD sense 3.6. Hers is still completely stock.
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Let her use both devices and make the decision. My wife is still running stock GB on hers and sees no reason to change it. Don't push her and be held responsible for any changes she does not like.
There are certain apps that you'll have bugs and compatibility issues with on ICS, but most of those should be ironed out by the developers over time.
Definitely s-off before hand either way. That way you'll have the ability to easily downgrade if she doesn't like it...
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Let her use both devices and make the decision. My wife is still running stock GB on hers and sees no reason to change it. Don't push her and be held responsible for any changes she does not like.
There are certain apps that you'll have bugs and compatibility issues with on ICS, but most of those should be ironed out by the developers over time.
Definitely s-off before hand either way. That way you'll have the ability to easily downgrade if she doesn't like it...
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Thanks a lot, great advice from the exact perspective I needed. You are awesome!
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I think official doesn't worth it i suggest the ordroid rom its quite stable i'd say but if you think your wife just needs her phone to call/text you should update as its really stable..
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Hey guys, not sure if this is already common knowledge or not, but our HTC rep stopped in today and said that the Inspire 4g was going to be getting Gingerbread OTA in the next couple of weeks. She seemed pretty keen on this stuff as she herself was running a rooted Inspire 4g and complimented my Evo running a Shift port.
Anyways, have fun in Inspire land!
Sweet! I hope she is right.
I hope so too, my fiance has a stock Inspire 4G and I'd love to see that with Gingerbread. The rep seemed pretty up on new tech.
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The Gingerbread OTA for the EVO that was released today has been rooted all ready....... So I don't see a problem with a locked bootloader.
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With the EVOs OTA that released today having locked boot loaders, I can't say I'm too excited about this until we know whether it has one or not.
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The Gingerbread OTA for the EVO that was released today has been rooted all ready....... So I don't see a problem with a locked bootloader.
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Was it rooted before it was put on the phone or after the ota update was on the phone. Because its easy to root a rom when its not on the phone, but its hard to s off a phone that has a locked bootloader.
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??? I am just looking at xHausx's post on the EVO board. So don't know.... But it is a rooted odexed and de-odexed version, fully functional. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
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Was it rooted before it was put on the phone or after the ota update was on the phone. Because its easy to root a rom when its not on the phone, but its hard to s off a phone that has a locked bootloader.
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??? I am just looking at xHausx's post on the EVO board. So don't know.... But it is a rooted odexed and de-odexed version, fully functional. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
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Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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So similar to the way Apple operates? Shouldn't we always have the ability to flash signed roms/ radios like we do now?
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Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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Werent we all stuck with locked bootloaders when we bought our phones? And arent we all running rooted with s-off now??
That makes absolutley no difference. If the update comes, and the bootloader is replaced in the process with a signed one(I know they said they wouldn't, I haven't read about the evo update, but usually a locked bootloader is no big deal, a signed one is- if there's people making a big deal about it I'm assuming its signed)
then there's a good possibility you can never really flash a rom/kernel again, unless the bootloader is cracked. If anyone thinks that deb's will always get around this, look at the atrix. Ya it may get cracked eventually, could be years though.
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That makes absolutley no difference. If the update comes, and the bootloader is replaced in the process with a signed one(I know they said they wouldn't, I haven't read about the evo update, but usually a locked bootloader is no big deal, a signed one is- if there's people making a big deal about it I'm assuming its signed)
then there's a good possibility you can never really flash a rom/kernel again, unless the bootloader is cracked. If anyone thinks that deb's will always get around this, look at the atrix. Ya it may get cracked eventually, could be years though.
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Is there a chance that a rooted device could download this update accidentally (ala iOS?)
Well, the way i see it, everyone said that about the G2 and it is now probably the easiest phone to root
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Is there a chance that a rooted device could download this update accidentally (ala iOS?)
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Technically, no.Some devs put FOTA KILL in the roms to disable the service responsible for OTA's so the devices cannot receive them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031938
Well I am wishing that HTC will stand behind what they said about not locking bootloaders. I hope...... that they had the OTA in the hands of Sprint way before they made that statement.
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Well I am wishing that HTC will stand behind what they said about not locking bootloaders. I hope...... that they had the OTA in the hands of Sprint way before they made that statement.
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Well if the Inspire is getting it in a couple of weeks, how long do you think AT&T has had it?
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I have not seen any leaked Roms for the Inspire gb update, so my hope is AT&T doesn't have it yet...... Just a hope.
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Well if the Inspire is getting it in a couple of weeks, how long do you think AT&T has had it?
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This is cool for non root users but I can't imagine being rooted without GB at this point.
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This is cool for non root users but I can't imagine being rooted without GB at this point.
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It's pretty cool for inspired ace users too, seems like there's people who like there roms as close to stock as possable and as soon as we get an inspire based gingerbread we can use that as a base to build off of, without any problems like tinny audio or speed issues.
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It's pretty cool for inspired ace users too, seems like there's people who like there roms as close to stock as possable and as soon as we get an inspire based gingerbread we can use that as a base to build off of, without any problems like tinny audio or speed issues.
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Hey ya'll I'm coming from a rooted Mytouch4g that I did a warranty exchange with, got the Sensation last night I've been reading we will get the ICS update next month.
I'm already itching to root this phone I sure do miss the simple root apps like ad block.
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jaysun3000 said:
Hey ya'll I'm coming from a rooted Mytouch4g that I did a warranty exchange with, got the Sensation last night I've been reading we will get the ICS update next month.
I'm already itching to root this phone I sure do miss the simple root apps like ad block.
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I guess it depends on your comfort zone ;-)
There are many ICS ROMs based on "leaked HTC ICS" that work well. Until the official HTC ICS comes out we don't know the delta.
I, personally, would root, but I haven't had an unrooted device in two years lol. I'm on gingerbread still, because every ICS rom I've tried hasn't been as stable or fast as my modified cm7. It's really up to you, but if you've had your last phone rooted, chances are you'll root this one too lol, it's just a matter of when. Anyway, welcome to the sensation forums and good luck
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Nothing wrong with rooting, it's possible to unroot if u have to send it back for defects, why not
Thanks fellas...I guess what it is is that I didn't succeed in getting S on once I went back to stock on the mytouch before I sent them both back lol o well seems rooting is easier on this phone then the gfree method for the mytouch and that was pretty easy itself
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I don't know why some may say ICS on Sensation is lagy, but I can say it is smoother. I love everything about the update. If you have a Sensation 4G, the ICS update is well worthy to update to. So, the update is not available in the US, it is worth rooting and the whole 9 yards, be advised! Getting ICS on Sensation 4G is a wreck of work, but there are a lot of helpful threads to seek into before attempting anything. I'm rooted/CID/Firmware ready to flash and I love ICS 4.0.3 Sense 3.6 Being on Sense 3.0 Gingerbread can't compare! So, thanks to all of the helpful threads and Developers and last but not least XDA!...CHEERS!
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Nice
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I agree completely with you. I flashed ICS and I haven't looked back at all.
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I was worried just after install, my Sensation was all over the place, but all has settled down and I am really happy with ICS glad to have left gingerbread behind
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I don't know why some may say ICS on Sensation is lagy, but I can say it is smoother. I love everything about the update. If you have a Sensation 4G, the ICS update is well worthy to update to. So, the update is not available in the US, it is worth rooting and the whole 9 yards, be advised! Getting ICS on Sensation 4G is a wreck of work, but there are a lot of helpful threads to seek into before attempting anything. I'm rooted/CID/Firmware ready to flash and I love ICS 4.0.3 Sense 3.6 Being on Sense 3.0 Gingerbread can't compare! So, thanks to all of the helpful threads and Developers and last but not least XDA!...CHEERS!
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1 Flash Firmware
2 Flash Rom
Where exactly is the difficulty?
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1 Flash Firmware
2 Flash Rom
Where exactly is the difficulty?
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He is probably talking about the whole rooting process as well.
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He is probably talking about the whole rooting process as well.
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Even that wasn't hard. Unlock your bootloader which is almost fully automated, flash su, done.
arent mikes firmwares rooted already? so no worrys about that
ics wokrs like a charm
flashed it 3 days ago, my batt is at 12% !
Can only agree, even for a novice is not that hard to do at all, just have to follow guide (there are quite few around) to the letter and all goes well.
From what I've read is people who cut corners and miss important steps that often have problems with their phones.
Many thanks to everyone here on Xda for their hard work bringing us goodies!
Ok I just wanted to clear up what seems like some confusion that everyone is having. To flash the ICS and Sense 3.6 OTA file all you have to do to a stock Sensation or stock Sensation XE is to S-off your Sensation first then write Super CID to your Sensation. That is it really, you have to S-off because branded Sensations will only flash ROMs that have the correct security clearance for whatever carrier that the branded Sensation is from. You need Super CID so the OTA file will pass the cid check during the flashing process. You do not have to be rooted as being rooted has nothing to do with being able to flash a ROM.
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I have not had a HTC phone in years, Mytouch 3G to be exact. I read the treads before I even think about flashing, and boy did I see a few with bricked phones soft bricked/ hard bricked, and lots that was confused. I'm a good guy and I just hate when somebody destroy something they care about. So, with that said, I hope to put precaution in those who are fast to act and slow to read. Thanks to all of you for sharing your thoughts about ICS, my feelings are likewise
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Sorry, but I just had to add, coming from a Google flagship phone/dev phone without any third party security and bloatware, it was a one step thing just root and flash. So, I'm proud to say I felt like a nube coming back to HTC
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Im still undecided on whether to root my sensation xe and flash a stock ics rom considering I'm not the biggest fan of htc sense or should I wait for the jelly bean update and carry on using launchers like Nova right now. thanks in advance.
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IMHO I`d s-off & root... Make sure you have got a correct RUU so you can restore everything for warranty purposes.
I think... The sensation will probably not get Jellybean officially, but the Ville C2 definitely will. All current Sense 4 ROMS for the sensation are based on Ville C2 RUU.
You will need s-off/root/4ext to install this.
Just root, you can use CM10 which will be working well soon.
Android 4.0 is going to be getting old hat (already) and sense 3.6 is old hat compared to Sense 4... So really, you have to root.
Unless HTC decide to make a Sensation update with Sense 4 & Jellybean (hell will freeze over...), or Sense 3.6 & Jellybean? Doubtful
Root root root
Yes. Root it.
First off, you will still be able to get the official JB release. You will just have to flash it manually intead of getting it OTA. (And for that matter you will probably be able to get it here before you would OTA)
Plus, once you are rooted you'd have more JB variants available to you anyway.
Root! It likely will be available here BEFORE the upstate is released, IF the sensation gets a official update At all! If not you will likely have it available for you here! Thank God for xda and it's Genius developers! You must root before you have all these wonderful things available to you! You won't regret it for a second! I sure don't. I'm running android 4.0.3, sense 4, firmware 3.33, all thanks to xda! They made me love my device Again! By rooting your making your device truly your own! Customization on the deepest levels! You will love it once your rooted and s off. It's great ! You don't like something , just change it to what you do like. Rooting gives this freedom! Best of luck! I have A feeling if your waiting for official jelly bean you will be waiting a long time if not forever. Root and soon it will be available!
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I think I have realised official OTA always take the longest to be released and the date keeps being pushed back..the wait for the gingerbread was worse than ics at one point..I'm going to brave it out at some point this week and root...thanks alot xda family.
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I think I have realised official OTA always take the longest to be released and the date keeps being pushed back..the wait for the gingerbread was worse than ics at one point..I'm going to brave it out at some point this week and root...thanks alot xda family.
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Good call! I was gonna wait for an official ICS build. It got shifted more times than I care to remember, and by the time it actually came, it was nearly JB time already. Thank god for xda!
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Rooting.is.ALWAYS.Worth.It.
Especially if you plan to wait on HTC for a JB update. 'Cause you could probably try Key Lime by the time they release one on JB. And thats if you're pretty lucky.
Where are you getting the info that Jellybean will be official? I have not seen any such statement
I just assumed if the phone can handle sense 4 and ics we should be in line for jelly bean at some point..but I just don't think I'm willing to wait now...HTC usually supports a phone for 2 OTA's then abandon it and leave to the user.
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Guys, I'm having this same dilemma !
I know that I'll be waiting a long long time for JB to come on the XE, does it make sense to root the phone ?
I have never done this before, however, so would someone please guide me to a page where I could understand this process better and hopefully do it without bricking my phone
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I just assumed if the phone can handle sense 4 and ics we should be in line for jelly bean at some point..but I just don't think I'm willing to wait now...HTC usually supports a phone for 2 OTA's then abandon it and leave to the user.
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I doubt that the Sensation is going to get 4.1 at all from HTC.
If a more recent device like the Amaze did not get any promise of an update to JB from HTC, what is your basis for assuming that the Sensation is getting it at some point? Just because it is capable of Sense 4 and ICS doesn't mean HTC HAS to give it Sense 4, let alone 4.1.
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versifier said:
Guys, I'm having this same dilemma !
I know that I'll be waiting a long long time for JB to come on the XE, does it make sense to root the phone ?
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What dilemma? The Sensation isn't getting JB from HTC. If you want it, root it. That's it.
versifier said:
Guys, I'm having this same dilemma !
I know that I'll be waiting a long long time for JB to come on the XE, does it make sense to root the phone ?
I have never done this before, however, so would someone please guide me to a page where I could understand this process better and hopefully do it without bricking my phone
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To find the correct guide you need to know your boot version. In order to find this version you pull battery, put battery back in and press power and volume down at the same time and hold until the phone boots, on that page it will have the information there on your hboot. Once you know what that is then you can find the correct guide example - guide rooting s off for h boot 1: 27.... , then you follow that specific guide for your h boot version. Hope this has helped.
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I did a search, but couldn't find a definitive answer to this question:
When the official ATT update comes out with 4.2.2 and Sense 5+, is there a danger in accepting the update with my phone in its present state?
Thanks,
Dan
Phone information:
HTC One X (AT&T version)
ROM: Stock 4.1.2 (from the HTC RUU site - I never got the OTA update)
Rooted
S-Off
TWRP 2.3.3.1
HBOOT-2.14.0000
Thanks for your help!
No as you have custom recovery. Just wait for a rooted flashable zip.
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DanGeorges said:
I did a search, but couldn't find a definitive answer to this question:
When the official ATT update comes out with 4.2.2 and Sense 5+, is there a danger in accepting the update with my phone in its present state?
Thanks,
Dan
Phone information:
HTC One X (AT&T version)
ROM: Stock 4.1.2 (from the HTC RUU site - I never got the OTA update)
Rooted
S-Off
TWRP 2.3.3.1
HBOOT-2.14.0000
Thanks for your help!
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We aren't getting the 4.2.2 update. We should only be getting 4.1.2
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Megadoug13 said:
We aren't getting the 4.2.2 update. We should only be getting 4.1.2
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REALLY? Not from what I've seen:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/25/htc-one-htc-one-x-android-4-2-updates-july/
Like all of these rumors, I'll believe it when I see it. I'ts completely without risk for someone to say these things are going to happen - if they DO, those people look like geniuses, and if they don't, no one calls them on it.
Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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HTC themselves did say they intend to update the one x to 4.2.2 sense 5 BUT technically, I don't believe they specified the dual core version so who knows.
HTC is Great with build quality and design but they are SO SLOW with updates. by the time Sense 5 comes out it will probably be time for a new phone anyway.
Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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Makes me wonder......
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is there a danger in accepting the update with my phone in its present state?
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You should consider any update offered by HTC as a moderate to high risk to a modded phone or a phone you want to mod.
HTC do not support a phone once it has been modded.
Any update may brick your device, prevent you unlocking, rooting, modding etc.
That said with supercid and soff the risks are reduced but not eliminated. Any update expects your phone to be stock, if it is not any amount of unknown things could go wrong.
If/when an update comes out you should only accept the update if you are willing to accept a bricked device. The risk reduces if others are saying they succeeded, but sometimes it takes time before it is fully clear of any quirks to updating. Eg JB with supercid on s-on AT&T devices caused many lost devices.
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Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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You can be HTC and supply us with timely updates
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You can be HTC and supply us with timely updates
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I doubt you could fathom the amount of time and work that goes into rom development. Many roms are developed by teams. imagio is one person, let's not create any more pressure than the pressure he puts on himself. That's how you push someone into stopping development. If you really want to push him to do timely updates the best way is with frequent, large donations.
Twistedddx, while your post is 100% accurate, I think it's pretty safe to assume that it will fall on deaf ears for the type of people within this community. Personally, while this phone is just perfect as it is right now, a brick is just the perfect reason to upgrade lol
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DanGeorges said:
REALLY? Not from what I've seen:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/25/htc-one-htc-one-x-android-4-2-updates-july/
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Okay well then I was wrong. I've only read that we won't get 4.2.2
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exad said:
I doubt you could fathom the amount of time and work that goes into rom development. Many roms are developed by teams. imagio is one person, let's not create any more pressure than the pressure he puts on himself. That's how you push someone into stopping development. If you really want to push him to do timely updates the best way is with frequent, large donations.
Twistedddx, while your post is 100% accurate, I think it's pretty safe to assume that it will fall on deaf ears for the type of people within this community. Personally, while this phone is just perfect as it is right now, a brick is just the perfect reason to upgrade lol
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I know how much time and work imagio and his team put into there sense 5 Rom. They are doing an amazing job and that's what I ment by my comment. I simply ment that him and his team are doing a better job than HTC is at keeping us updated. In no way was I rushing them or causing pressure..
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You should consider any update offered by HTC as a moderate to high risk to a modded phone or a phone you want to mod.
HTC do not support a phone once it has been modded.
Any update may brick your device, prevent you unlocking, rooting, modding etc.
That said with supercid and soff the risks are reduced but not eliminated. Any update expects your phone to be stock, if it is not any amount of unknown things could go wrong.
If/when an update comes out you should only accept the update if you are willing to accept a bricked device. The risk reduces if others are saying they succeeded, but sometimes it takes time before it is fully clear of any quirks to updating. Eg JB with supercid on s-on AT&T devices caused many lost devices.
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Thank you for your answer to my question. I didn't realize that a simple question would generate so much angst.
I read about the bricked phones with S-On and SuperCID, but I haven't read anything about S-OFF and superCID with the update.
Double post. Can't delete. Sorry!