Root or wait for ICS update? - HTC Sensation

Hey ya'll I'm coming from a rooted Mytouch4g that I did a warranty exchange with, got the Sensation last night I've been reading we will get the ICS update next month.
I'm already itching to root this phone I sure do miss the simple root apps like ad block.
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jaysun3000 said:
Hey ya'll I'm coming from a rooted Mytouch4g that I did a warranty exchange with, got the Sensation last night I've been reading we will get the ICS update next month.
I'm already itching to root this phone I sure do miss the simple root apps like ad block.
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I guess it depends on your comfort zone ;-)
There are many ICS ROMs based on "leaked HTC ICS" that work well. Until the official HTC ICS comes out we don't know the delta.

I, personally, would root, but I haven't had an unrooted device in two years lol. I'm on gingerbread still, because every ICS rom I've tried hasn't been as stable or fast as my modified cm7. It's really up to you, but if you've had your last phone rooted, chances are you'll root this one too lol, it's just a matter of when. Anyway, welcome to the sensation forums and good luck
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Nothing wrong with rooting, it's possible to unroot if u have to send it back for defects, why not

Thanks fellas...I guess what it is is that I didn't succeed in getting S on once I went back to stock on the mytouch before I sent them both back lol o well seems rooting is easier on this phone then the gfree method for the mytouch and that was pretty easy itself
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HTC Rep: OTA Gingerbread by end of the month

Hey guys, not sure if this is already common knowledge or not, but our HTC rep stopped in today and said that the Inspire 4g was going to be getting Gingerbread OTA in the next couple of weeks. She seemed pretty keen on this stuff as she herself was running a rooted Inspire 4g and complimented my Evo running a Shift port.
Anyways, have fun in Inspire land!
Sweet! I hope she is right.
I hope so too, my fiance has a stock Inspire 4G and I'd love to see that with Gingerbread. The rep seemed pretty up on new tech.
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The Gingerbread OTA for the EVO that was released today has been rooted all ready....... So I don't see a problem with a locked bootloader.
threpac said:
With the EVOs OTA that released today having locked boot loaders, I can't say I'm too excited about this until we know whether it has one or not.
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droe411 said:
The Gingerbread OTA for the EVO that was released today has been rooted all ready....... So I don't see a problem with a locked bootloader.
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Was it rooted before it was put on the phone or after the ota update was on the phone. Because its easy to root a rom when its not on the phone, but its hard to s off a phone that has a locked bootloader.
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??? I am just looking at xHausx's post on the EVO board. So don't know.... But it is a rooted odexed and de-odexed version, fully functional. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
mudknot2005 said:
Was it rooted before it was put on the phone or after the ota update was on the phone. Because its easy to root a rom when its not on the phone, but its hard to s off a phone that has a locked bootloader.
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??? I am just looking at xHausx's post on the EVO board. So don't know.... But it is a rooted odexed and de-odexed version, fully functional. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
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Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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mudknot2005 said:
Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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So similar to the way Apple operates? Shouldn't we always have the ability to flash signed roms/ radios like we do now?
mudknot2005 said:
Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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Werent we all stuck with locked bootloaders when we bought our phones? And arent we all running rooted with s-off now??
That makes absolutley no difference. If the update comes, and the bootloader is replaced in the process with a signed one(I know they said they wouldn't, I haven't read about the evo update, but usually a locked bootloader is no big deal, a signed one is- if there's people making a big deal about it I'm assuming its signed)
then there's a good possibility you can never really flash a rom/kernel again, unless the bootloader is cracked. If anyone thinks that deb's will always get around this, look at the atrix. Ya it may get cracked eventually, could be years though.
di11igaf said:
That makes absolutley no difference. If the update comes, and the bootloader is replaced in the process with a signed one(I know they said they wouldn't, I haven't read about the evo update, but usually a locked bootloader is no big deal, a signed one is- if there's people making a big deal about it I'm assuming its signed)
then there's a good possibility you can never really flash a rom/kernel again, unless the bootloader is cracked. If anyone thinks that deb's will always get around this, look at the atrix. Ya it may get cracked eventually, could be years though.
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Is there a chance that a rooted device could download this update accidentally (ala iOS?)
Well, the way i see it, everyone said that about the G2 and it is now probably the easiest phone to root
ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Is there a chance that a rooted device could download this update accidentally (ala iOS?)
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Technically, no.Some devs put FOTA KILL in the roms to disable the service responsible for OTA's so the devices cannot receive them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031938
Well I am wishing that HTC will stand behind what they said about not locking bootloaders. I hope...... that they had the OTA in the hands of Sprint way before they made that statement.
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droe411 said:
Well I am wishing that HTC will stand behind what they said about not locking bootloaders. I hope...... that they had the OTA in the hands of Sprint way before they made that statement.
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Well if the Inspire is getting it in a couple of weeks, how long do you think AT&T has had it?
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I have not seen any leaked Roms for the Inspire gb update, so my hope is AT&T doesn't have it yet...... Just a hope.
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Well if the Inspire is getting it in a couple of weeks, how long do you think AT&T has had it?
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This is cool for non root users but I can't imagine being rooted without GB at this point.
Mustang302LX said:
This is cool for non root users but I can't imagine being rooted without GB at this point.
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It's pretty cool for inspired ace users too, seems like there's people who like there roms as close to stock as possable and as soon as we get an inspire based gingerbread we can use that as a base to build off of, without any problems like tinny audio or speed issues.
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bandjosh said:
It's pretty cool for inspired ace users too, seems like there's people who like there roms as close to stock as possable and as soon as we get an inspire based gingerbread we can use that as a base to build off of, without any problems like tinny audio or speed issues.
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Can i upgrade my sensation to sense 3.5 with s off

i tried to unroot my sensation 4g but i cant get s back on so if i upgrade it will it damage my phone? and will i be able to root it again if i want to with sense 3.5.
you can just download a non stock rom with sense 3.5, since you already rooted your phone.
But I don't want to root my phone. I want to unroot it 100% so I can send it in for warranty but I still have s off for some reason I can't get that process to work when I try to turn it back on. So I just wanna know can I upgrade to 3.5 with s off? And will I be able to root again later on if I upgrade.
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Then no you can't get Sense 3.5 as it's not even released yet. The custom ROMs are based on a LEAKED test RUU and chances of it actually being officially released are slim at present
As it stands, you're S-OFF so you're still not in warranty so you may as well flash a custom 3.5 ROM and be done with it
I have to send my phone in for warranty tho.
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Then you need to get S-ON again
yes u can. i just did it to my HTC SENSATION XE and works superb with Insertc0in ROM.. very awesome.
head to this forum : for how to root your phone and get s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
and this next forum for how to get you started with insertc0in's ROM which i highly recommend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198684
Thanks for the link
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This thread hurts my brain. U need to be s-on to send it in for warrenty exchange. So if your s-off they will not accept the warrenty exchange.there is no sense 3.5 for our phones officially and probably never will bbecause once we get updated to ice cream sandwich. That is going to run a new sense version 4.0
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jriv said:
This thread hurts my brain. U need to be s-on to send it in for warrenty exchange. So if your s-off they will not accept the warrenty exchange.there is no sense 3.5 for our phones officially and probably never will bbecause once we get updated to ice cream sandwich. That is going to run a new sense version 4.0
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A guy told me some people have sent there's back with s off and warent caught. And he said people have bricked there phones trying to get s back on. Idle why to do its seems like a huge risk both ways. Idk wtf to do I should have never rooted my phone.
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Rooting your phone is the best thing u can do for your phone.it makes all the slowness of sense go away and there are multiple guides on how to unroot and turn s back on Wich if followed correctly will not brick your phone.
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And who cares if you brick your phone just send it in saying it won't turn on after u had an update for it. They have no way of knowing for sure
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jriv said:
And who cares if you brick your phone just send it in saying it won't turn on after u had an update for it. They have no way of knowing for sure
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Bro I care I don't want to brick my phone plus I just restored my sensation to stock other than still have s off and it isint laggy at all.
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Mate just S-on your phone and S-off it again when you get it back, it is really easy to do.
I stayed stock but only because I aint got around to doing it yet, the battery is killing me know though, only getting half the life that I was with Mikes ROM.

ICS 4.0.3 Sense 3.6

I don't know why some may say ICS on Sensation is lagy, but I can say it is smoother. I love everything about the update. If you have a Sensation 4G, the ICS update is well worthy to update to. So, the update is not available in the US, it is worth rooting and the whole 9 yards, be advised! Getting ICS on Sensation 4G is a wreck of work, but there are a lot of helpful threads to seek into before attempting anything. I'm rooted/CID/Firmware ready to flash and I love ICS 4.0.3 Sense 3.6 Being on Sense 3.0 Gingerbread can't compare! So, thanks to all of the helpful threads and Developers and last but not least XDA!...CHEERS!
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Nice
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I agree completely with you. I flashed ICS and I haven't looked back at all.
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I was worried just after install, my Sensation was all over the place, but all has settled down and I am really happy with ICS glad to have left gingerbread behind
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jalyn02 said:
I don't know why some may say ICS on Sensation is lagy, but I can say it is smoother. I love everything about the update. If you have a Sensation 4G, the ICS update is well worthy to update to. So, the update is not available in the US, it is worth rooting and the whole 9 yards, be advised! Getting ICS on Sensation 4G is a wreck of work, but there are a lot of helpful threads to seek into before attempting anything. I'm rooted/CID/Firmware ready to flash and I love ICS 4.0.3 Sense 3.6 Being on Sense 3.0 Gingerbread can't compare! So, thanks to all of the helpful threads and Developers and last but not least XDA!...CHEERS!
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1 Flash Firmware
2 Flash Rom
Where exactly is the difficulty?
sshede said:
1 Flash Firmware
2 Flash Rom
Where exactly is the difficulty?
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He is probably talking about the whole rooting process as well.
Ngo93 said:
He is probably talking about the whole rooting process as well.
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Even that wasn't hard. Unlock your bootloader which is almost fully automated, flash su, done.
arent mikes firmwares rooted already? so no worrys about that
ics wokrs like a charm
flashed it 3 days ago, my batt is at 12% !
Can only agree, even for a novice is not that hard to do at all, just have to follow guide (there are quite few around) to the letter and all goes well.
From what I've read is people who cut corners and miss important steps that often have problems with their phones.
Many thanks to everyone here on Xda for their hard work bringing us goodies!
Ok I just wanted to clear up what seems like some confusion that everyone is having. To flash the ICS and Sense 3.6 OTA file all you have to do to a stock Sensation or stock Sensation XE is to S-off your Sensation first then write Super CID to your Sensation. That is it really, you have to S-off because branded Sensations will only flash ROMs that have the correct security clearance for whatever carrier that the branded Sensation is from. You need Super CID so the OTA file will pass the cid check during the flashing process. You do not have to be rooted as being rooted has nothing to do with being able to flash a ROM.
sshede said:
1 Flash Firmware
2 Flash Rom
Where exactly is the difficulty?
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I have not had a HTC phone in years, Mytouch 3G to be exact. I read the treads before I even think about flashing, and boy did I see a few with bricked phones soft bricked/ hard bricked, and lots that was confused. I'm a good guy and I just hate when somebody destroy something they care about. So, with that said, I hope to put precaution in those who are fast to act and slow to read. Thanks to all of you for sharing your thoughts about ICS, my feelings are likewise
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Sorry, but I just had to add, coming from a Google flagship phone/dev phone without any third party security and bloatware, it was a one step thing just root and flash. So, I'm proud to say I felt like a nube coming back to HTC
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[Humor][Galaxy Nexus Edition] You know you're rooted when...

I must post this for sensation users, becous its most funny what i read from devs. Write here your funny experience white root:
thanks for djowett
Orginal post from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1561386
"I saw this thread in the Epic and Rezound forums and related to most of them.. so just post and complete this sentence "You know you're rooted when.."
Examples:
masaidjet: You know you're rooted when you tell a neighborhood hoe to " wipe her cache "
wscott9903: You know you're rooted when 1/2 of your apps require superuser permission.
feralicious: You know you're rooted when your spouse tells you they're leaving you and taking the kids and you think "perfect timing, (insert dev name here) just released a new ICS ROM".
jayochs: you know you're rooted when your phones buggy as hell lol
putney1477: You know you're rooted when, you husband, wife, significant other gets a new phone and says, don't you dare come near this phone, it works fine!
jackpot08: You know your rooted when when spend more time flashing roms than using your phone"
You know you re rooted when you try flashing a Rom as you collapse from not sleeping for three days
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you know when you're rooted when you tell your gf/wife/whatever sudo make me a sandwich
You know you rooted when your phone reboots by itself.
You know you re rooted when its 3 AM and you are searching XDA looking for a fix as your wife asks for your company
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You know youre rooted when your'e backups take up more space than apps/media do
You know your rooted when u spend more time on xda looking for mods then actually using ur phone LOL
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You know you are rooted when you get home from work, and as you set down to rest you say. "I need to boot into recovery!"
you know you are rooted when everybody around you is on facebook chat just you are missing becouse you are "chuck norris" and chuck norris is xda...
you know you are rooted when your girlfriend calling and you canot pick up the phone becoue flashing the new kernel...
you know you are rooted when F5 is the hottest button when you w8 the new rom release...
you know you are rooted when your camera not working on new ported roms
you know you are rooted when you still looking for a newer phone model to give it su, just for feeling this everithing
You know you are rooted when all your fav ROM want to put it all together on your phone
you know you are rooted when you look at someone else's newer phone and shake your head when you find out it's not rooted.
You know you rooted when you show your phone to an iPhone user and there amazed lol
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You know your rooted when your friend has the latest phone and you have a newer android version than they do.
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Kohr-Ah said:
You know your rooted when your friend has the latest phone and you have a newer android version than they do.
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QFTMFT.
YES!
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You know you're rooted when you buy a new phone, don't touch the stock rom at all, root and flash a new rom within the first 1 - 2 hours of purchase.
(I did this with my G2 and Sensation.)
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You know you're rooted when you can't spot a single piece of Sense on an HTC phone.
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You know you're rooted when you understand these jokes.
You know you're rooted when you wipe without flushing, and flash without going to jail.
rockneo said:
You know you're rooted when you understand these jokes.
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you know you are rooted when you MAKE these jokes.
You know you are rooted when your device locks up while your showing it to your friends.

Should I update?

Just manually checked my wife's HTC software update, and it finally has the Android 4.0 ICS Sense 3.6, I d/l'd it, but havent installed it yet. Is there any reason I shouldn't update, say if I decided to root it anytime in the future?
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It will be best to root before update.because it will be a whole lot easier with the hboot version you have now. You should be able now to use revolutionary and if you update, It's likely you will no
longer able to use it depending on your hboot. Revolutionary supports certain hboot versions and some ics might not be supported. This is my understanding and I was also told the same thing. So I rooted on revolutionary then updated to 4.0.3 and custom Rom .of course its possible to root after update, just more difficult in my opinion. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Hope this helped out a bit.
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That is helpful, thanks. I am kinda curious to compare it to my Sensation, rooted on 4.0.3 AHRD sense 3.6. Hers is still completely stock.
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_DavidWebb said:
That is helpful, thanks. I am kinda curious to compare it to my Sensation, rooted on 4.0.3 AHRD sense 3.6. Hers is still completely stock.
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Let her use both devices and make the decision. My wife is still running stock GB on hers and sees no reason to change it. Don't push her and be held responsible for any changes she does not like.
There are certain apps that you'll have bugs and compatibility issues with on ICS, but most of those should be ironed out by the developers over time.
Definitely s-off before hand either way. That way you'll have the ability to easily downgrade if she doesn't like it...
GROGG88 said:
Let her use both devices and make the decision. My wife is still running stock GB on hers and sees no reason to change it. Don't push her and be held responsible for any changes she does not like.
There are certain apps that you'll have bugs and compatibility issues with on ICS, but most of those should be ironed out by the developers over time.
Definitely s-off before hand either way. That way you'll have the ability to easily downgrade if she doesn't like it...
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Thanks a lot, great advice from the exact perspective I needed. You are awesome!
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I think official doesn't worth it i suggest the ordroid rom its quite stable i'd say but if you think your wife just needs her phone to call/text you should update as its really stable..
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