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Google teaming with samsung - fail?

I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?

I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.

Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.

I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...

Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.

Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.

AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."

z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Loggerhead87 said:
u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen

The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.

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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.

AntonJart said:
Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.

Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"

Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
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Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.

I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!

put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win

I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

Would be there no Galaxy S sequential for AT&T?

I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?

Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.

Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.

leetpriest said:
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.

Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.

Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!

there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.

Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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cdwhit said:
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.

firehazard said:
lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Here, here!

Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.

A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.

This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.

Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.

cdwhit said:
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.

if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss

thecellx said:
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.

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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.

Samsung may slash SGS II production, focus on SGS III

Just caught this on Samfirmware...
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/7520427-galaxy-s-iii-

The link is a little buggy, so here's the meat...
"Korean manufacturer Samsung may be mulling plans to slash its product cycles and release a new top-end mobile phone to take on the Apple iPhone 5 which is now expected to come in September.
Apple rivals might have been taken by surprise by the company's decision to diverge from its regular annual product refresh and given that by the time the iPhone 5 is release, their own flagship handsets will be at least six months old, it doesn't come as a surprise that some may be considering new iPhone 5 rivals.
Popherald claims that sources located in Asia have confirmed that Samsung will have a new Android-powered phone - launched in August or September - that will be pitted against the iPhone 5, one that apparently won't carry the Galaxy branding but which will come with better specs.
Expect a 1.4GHz dual core Samsung Exynos SoC (up from 1.2GHz), 1GB RAM and Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread with Samsung's own TouchWiz user interface.
The latest Android build will bring Google Talk with support for video calls as well. The current Samsung Galaxy SII is already a successful product and packs the very best features you'd expect from a high end smartphone including NFC, an ultra slim chassis and a large 4.3-inch WVGA touchscreen."
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/25/samsung-may-pitch-new-phone-against-iphone-5/

Would anyone who had planned on buying the SGS II actually buy it now, knowing that it will be 'obsolete'(not really though, quite a nice piece of hardware) in six months?

Meh, I maybe I'll hold off on the SGSII for a while to see what the next iPhone Killer looks like...

No matter what you get it's obsolete in minutes.
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that word that you keep using... I don't think it means what you think it means.

drwx said:
that word that you keep using... I don't think it means what you think it means.
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That's why is was used in air quotes and with a disclaimer in brackets.
Anything to contribute?

I read from other sources saying all they are doing is changing the clock speed to 1.4 on existing sgs2's. This will not be sold as the sgs3 or under any other name.
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As Mike said, everything you get will be obsolete in about 6-9 months. Waiting on the SGS III will result in it being obsolete by the SGS IV in about that same span. If you are willing to travel outside of what your carrier offers on it's phone product line, then that number is even lower as the GSM world pops out the latest greatest phone every 3 months or so.
I have an SGS II now and with the specs on the proposed SGS III it seems like the phone will be the exact same and DEV work won't have to really pick between the two.

logic error
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one that apparently won't carry the Galaxy branding but which will come with better specs.
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Means it can't possibly be the SGS 3, or any other in that family/line...

I guess I'm sort of surprised that they would invest so much into the current model to drop it and jump to the next one. I guess they are really targeting Apple and making every effort to match or exceed specs instead of playing catch up with the numbers game.

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I guess I'm sort of surprised that they would invest so much into the current model to drop it and jump to the next one. I guess they are really targeting Apple and making every effort to match or exceed specs instead of playing catch up with the numbers game.
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I'm sure Samsung has a bit of a vendetta against Apple after its frivolous lawsuits against them.
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Unfortunately for android we have always been "chasing" apple, at least in the majority of the public eye.
With this release timed around the I5 release we may now have a phone that is not only better after a certain time, but better at the same time. That puts us (i.e. Android/Google/Samsung) in a very good position.

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Unfortunately for android we have always been "chasing" apple, at least in the majority of the public eye.
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That might have been true a year ago, but not right now.
Apple's stupidity, arrogance, and stubbornness has cost them the phone market.
Android will be the Windows of phones, and the iPhone will fade away into obscure mediocrity, just like Apple computers.
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MikeyMike01 said:
That might have been true a year ago, but not right now.
Apple's stupidity, arrogance, and stubbornness has cost them the phone market.
Android will be the Windows of phones, and the iPhone will fade away into obscure mediocrity, just like Apple computers.
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so true =D

MikeyMike01 said:
That might have been true a year ago, but not right now.
Apple's stupidity, arrogance, and stubbornness has cost them the phone market.
Android will be the Windows of phones, and the iPhone will fade away into obscure mediocrity, just like Apple computers.
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does that mean we get blue screens of death?
What does that mean for the Windows Phone 7 of phones?

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I'm sure Samsung has a bit of a vendetta against Apple after its frivolous lawsuits against them.
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Meh. It's more complicated than that. Samsung actually supplies a lot of iPhone components and Apple is a pretty big customer.
Vendetta might be a contributor, but it's at least as much about competition. Samsung is gunning hard for Apple's market position, even more so with tablets like the Galaxy 10.1. One of the biggest advantages Samsung has had so far is hardware spec dominance. They're just ensuring they keep that position.

SGS 2 wont be obsolete for a year atleast cuz there arent really any apps/games that can use it to its full potential.. personally only bad thing i feel is display resolution but its not really a biggie since the SAP is gorg
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drwx said:
that word that you keep using... I don't think it means what you think it means.
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watch it, I'm Sicilian. and death is on the line.

iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S2?

After Samsung sold 3 million S2s in just 55 days Apple should launch the iPhone 5 asap and bring parity back:
http://versusio.com/en/apple-iphone-5-32gb-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100
(iPhone 5 vs S2)
Do you think the iPhone 5 (and the 4s) will stop Android's triumphal march?

Imho the iPhone5-6-7-whatever will always be the best selling phone of the year, that's because of the quality of the product, the software support, the status symbol aspect of the tool and much more. Anyway i think nothing will stop android (nor slow it down, not even a bit) basically because apple has no products to offer to the mid and the low-end user, and those users happen to be the most part (and always will)...android is the absolute king of that side of the market right now.

main selling point is the status of an iphone (and the quailty of apps)

iphone will always be the best out there

DAyellow said:
Do you think the iPhone 5 (and the 4s) will stop Android's triumphal march?
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Will depend on the iPhone 5 specs. It needs at least a larger screen to compete with the S2.
I have recently switched my tablet from iPad 1 to Samsung 10.1. So far I'm not impressed by Android. Quite laggy and instable compared to the iPad (that I sold).
I don't know yet if I buy a S2, or at least wait to see the iPhone 5 (when ?)

iPhone 5 is not even announced yet.
This thread could as well have subject: Unicorns vs Galaxy S2.
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I like features and am a power users. But having been using Android Gingerbread and learning a lot about it in the last couple of weeks, I still think iPhone will maintain the best synergy of core features, developer support in software with it's herald hardware design and engineering.
Android is still lacking that final polish IMHO.

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iPhone 5 is not even announced yet.
This thread could as well have subject: Unicorns vs Galaxy S2.
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i preffer gs2...
unicorns make me puke rainbows...

I can't really say for sure just because there's been nothing about the iphone 5 except it'll be released on ATT and Verizon at the same time, and if that's really true then it might overtake android for a little bit.

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I like features and am a power users. But having been using Android Gingerbread and learning a lot about it in the last couple of weeks, I still think iPhone will maintain the best synergy of core features, developer support in software with it's herald hardware design and engineering.
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I doubt Google is not capable of producing polished products if they really put resources towards it.

Don't compare apples and oranges. I have no idea why dual core android phones still get compared to a closed in single core outdated pos. Oooh!!! Galaxy s3 is out!! Let's compare it to the iphone!! ****ing brilliant.
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Perhaps, but I don't like iPhone

Yes the iPhone will beat it in sales. Look at us, we aren't the average consumers.
The average (American) consumer is obsessed with that little Apple logo. Do they give a damn about dual core processors and such? Nope. As long as it's Apple branded apparently it is the best because of all the advertising they do.
Heres a funny little video for you in your spare time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

jailbroken iphone=stock galaxy s

The iPhone 5 will be release sometime in the fall (I've heard September-October) and the Galaxy S II was released not to long ago. However in the phone market it could be a entirely new generation of Android phones by then and due to the different companies making phones one is almost bound to beat the iPhone 5.
I also think that site is slightly biased toward iPhones...Just saying because they don't mention cons, and they use words such as "vastly better" to promote the iPhone.
the iPhone will get their usual customers more or less no matter what. A single branded phone could not beat the competition that HTC, Samsung, Lg, Motorola, and possibly a few more have built up.

Of course, you can quantify what you mean by "beat."
I believe Apple is still raking in all the money.

In market share or just that the iPhone makes more sales than any stand-a-lone Android device?

It will sell lot more, but I think that obviously sgs2 is better.
Android!

u guys seriously don't have a life ... predicting about products which are not yet released ... iphone vs android is getting on nerves. who gives a damn . just be happy with what u have!!!!!!!!!!

jags_the1 said:
u guys seriously don't have a life ... predicting about products which are not yet released ... iphone vs android is getting on nerves. who gives a damn . just be happy with what u have!!!!!!!!!!
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Then, don't read or skip the thread? "Seriously" these guys are happy talking to people who are obviously happy to discuss/predict this subject so, the question would be, if you don't like the subject, why are you here reading and commenting on them? ....... so, who doesn't have "a life"?

Starting to look like Google 5.0 Jelly Bean will be releases before we get ICS

http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl..._Android_5.0_release_this_fall_?taxonomyId=15

no big news there

I like the mention of the upgrade alliance. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me

Nexus devices from now on. Mind has been made up. This bull**** I've been suffering since the x10. Then the captivate, I'm done. Last device that's not nexus. I don't even care if the hardware is weaker than the other phones, the software matters way more and it's not like the nexus devices are severely under powered either.
It's totally ****ty that the devs have to support devices to keep it going like the way it should be going. They do the best they can but the direct Google upgrades is something that nobody can compare with.
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Really wish Samsung would just start putting out Android releases with their drivers and nothing else so we could get these updates faster.
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kr3w1337 said:
Nexus devices from now on. Mind has been made up. This bull**** I've been suffering since the x10. Then the captivate, I'm done. Last device that's not nexus. I don't even care if the hardware is weaker than the other phones, the software matters way more and it's not like the nexus devices are severely under powered either.
It's totally ****ty that the devs have to support devices to keep it going like the way it should be going. They do the best they can but the direct Google upgrades is something that nobody can compare with.
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Agreed. But not to the point of only buying nexus devices, they're always lower than competition in terms of specs. That being said, its very true they see updates first. A few weeks to maybe a month KR two I can understand, but sometimes the delay is just ludicrous

I can't wait until manufacturers stop messing around with adding their own crud to the phones so they ha e to do far less work to push an update.
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not fair, I would definitely get a nexus if it came to tmobile, hell I don't care if the specs are worse, I want updates.
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yea coming from the nexus one this has been pretty weak. problem is I just can't justify spending 500 bucks on a phone anymore. Also I don't know if a device that you purchase from a different carrier will have LTE support and I can't live without LTE anymore. we'll see. I think that if we had exynos then the update issue wouldn't be so much of an issue.

If you had an exynos it would still take half a year to update assuming the update comes out this month.

Nexus was LTE I get it.....

Do the Nexus phones get more major releases then other phones? Seems to me they get the interim releases quicker but one major release at most. I doubt the Galaxy Nexus will get anything past 5.0, & if it does the performance will be far worse then whatever new phones are out at the time with it preloaded.
Of course Samsung & others will want to differentiate themselves from the others through customization. Android is just way too crowded with devices & manufacturers for them not to have to try.

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Do the Nexus phones get more major releases then other phones? Seems to me they get the interim releases quicker but one major release at most. I doubt the Galaxy Nexus will get anything past 5.0, & if it does the performance will be far worse then whatever new phones are out at the time with it preloaded.
Of course Samsung & others will want to differentiate themselves from the others through customization. Android is just way too crowded with devices & manufacturers for them not to have to try.
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Since Nexus phones are AOSP devices, they pretty much get every Android update, since OEM's don't have to do their bull**** to it. You can put me in the "Nexus Phone Only" group for the future. I really am tired of the bull****.

Depends on what you mean by all updates. The N1 for example went from 2.1, 2.2 & 2.3 none of which I would call major releases, & I would argue that the official 2.3 release made the phone worse.

This is why apple and ios will always be superior imo
The 3gs was released in 09 and has ios5
ICS has been out for months and less than 1% of devices have it.
Hell a lot of 09 phones don't even have gingerbread yet...
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JaZart said:
This is why apple and ios will always be superior imo
The 3gs was released in 09 and has ios5
ICS has been out for months and less than 1% of devices have it.
Hell a lot of 09 phones don't even have gingerbread yet...
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yes but an 2009 iphone with ios5 does not improve the phone necessarily as would a 09 android wouldnt get any faster/ better with ICS which is designed for bigger screens and dual cores... i think its necessary to give up on 3yo+ phones, and apple releases 1 phone a year when ie. HTC releases 10...
but honestly i think 10+ is too many for consumers and the company itself to handle :/

The problem is us the consumer we kill ourselves to get the latest and greatest so as long as there's money to be made on us their going to keep producing new phones every 4 to 5 months with something better. Its a perpetual trap. New phone great system 4 months later new phone better system. Example the sgs 2. Then the skyrocket then the skyrocket HD and just for good measure throw the note in and then sgs3. You cant win.
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This is mainly just a rumor still, but on the Samsung India Facebook page they mention how March 15 is when the millions of SGS II users will see 4.0
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/qhlke/samsung_israels_official_facebook_page_you_waited/

When are people going to get it Samsung Galaxy SII is not equivalent Samsung Galaxy SII Skyfire/LTE

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When are people going to get it Samsung Galaxy SII is not equivalent Samsung Galaxy SII Skyfire/LTE
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This is true but must ye be so negative
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