Starting to look like Google 5.0 Jelly Bean will be releases before we get ICS - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Starting to look like Google 5.0 Jelly Bean will be releases before we get ICS - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl..._Android_5.0_release_this_fall_?taxonomyId=15

no big news there

I like the mention of the upgrade alliance. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me

Nexus devices from now on. Mind has been made up. This bull**** I've been suffering since the x10. Then the captivate, I'm done. Last device that's not nexus. I don't even care if the hardware is weaker than the other phones, the software matters way more and it's not like the nexus devices are severely under powered either.
It's totally ****ty that the devs have to support devices to keep it going like the way it should be going. They do the best they can but the direct Google upgrades is something that nobody can compare with.
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Really wish Samsung would just start putting out Android releases with their drivers and nothing else so we could get these updates faster.
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kr3w1337 said:
Nexus devices from now on. Mind has been made up. This bull**** I've been suffering since the x10. Then the captivate, I'm done. Last device that's not nexus. I don't even care if the hardware is weaker than the other phones, the software matters way more and it's not like the nexus devices are severely under powered either.
It's totally ****ty that the devs have to support devices to keep it going like the way it should be going. They do the best they can but the direct Google upgrades is something that nobody can compare with.
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Agreed. But not to the point of only buying nexus devices, they're always lower than competition in terms of specs. That being said, its very true they see updates first. A few weeks to maybe a month KR two I can understand, but sometimes the delay is just ludicrous

I can't wait until manufacturers stop messing around with adding their own crud to the phones so they ha e to do far less work to push an update.
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not fair, I would definitely get a nexus if it came to tmobile, hell I don't care if the specs are worse, I want updates.
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yea coming from the nexus one this has been pretty weak. problem is I just can't justify spending 500 bucks on a phone anymore. Also I don't know if a device that you purchase from a different carrier will have LTE support and I can't live without LTE anymore. we'll see. I think that if we had exynos then the update issue wouldn't be so much of an issue.

If you had an exynos it would still take half a year to update assuming the update comes out this month.

Nexus was LTE I get it.....

Do the Nexus phones get more major releases then other phones? Seems to me they get the interim releases quicker but one major release at most. I doubt the Galaxy Nexus will get anything past 5.0, & if it does the performance will be far worse then whatever new phones are out at the time with it preloaded.
Of course Samsung & others will want to differentiate themselves from the others through customization. Android is just way too crowded with devices & manufacturers for them not to have to try.

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Do the Nexus phones get more major releases then other phones? Seems to me they get the interim releases quicker but one major release at most. I doubt the Galaxy Nexus will get anything past 5.0, & if it does the performance will be far worse then whatever new phones are out at the time with it preloaded.
Of course Samsung & others will want to differentiate themselves from the others through customization. Android is just way too crowded with devices & manufacturers for them not to have to try.
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Since Nexus phones are AOSP devices, they pretty much get every Android update, since OEM's don't have to do their bull**** to it. You can put me in the "Nexus Phone Only" group for the future. I really am tired of the bull****.

Depends on what you mean by all updates. The N1 for example went from 2.1, 2.2 & 2.3 none of which I would call major releases, & I would argue that the official 2.3 release made the phone worse.

This is why apple and ios will always be superior imo
The 3gs was released in 09 and has ios5
ICS has been out for months and less than 1% of devices have it.
Hell a lot of 09 phones don't even have gingerbread yet...
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JaZart said:
This is why apple and ios will always be superior imo
The 3gs was released in 09 and has ios5
ICS has been out for months and less than 1% of devices have it.
Hell a lot of 09 phones don't even have gingerbread yet...
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yes but an 2009 iphone with ios5 does not improve the phone necessarily as would a 09 android wouldnt get any faster/ better with ICS which is designed for bigger screens and dual cores... i think its necessary to give up on 3yo+ phones, and apple releases 1 phone a year when ie. HTC releases 10...
but honestly i think 10+ is too many for consumers and the company itself to handle :/

The problem is us the consumer we kill ourselves to get the latest and greatest so as long as there's money to be made on us their going to keep producing new phones every 4 to 5 months with something better. Its a perpetual trap. New phone great system 4 months later new phone better system. Example the sgs 2. Then the skyrocket then the skyrocket HD and just for good measure throw the note in and then sgs3. You cant win.
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This is mainly just a rumor still, but on the Samsung India Facebook page they mention how March 15 is when the millions of SGS II users will see 4.0
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/qhlke/samsung_israels_official_facebook_page_you_waited/

When are people going to get it Samsung Galaxy SII is not equivalent Samsung Galaxy SII Skyfire/LTE

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When are people going to get it Samsung Galaxy SII is not equivalent Samsung Galaxy SII Skyfire/LTE
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This is true but must ye be so negative
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[Q] How long will the Infuse 4G hold up?

How long do you guys think the Infuse 4G will last in the Market of ever improving phones? Will it last the next few years, say until an upgrade is eligible? Or will it simply fall apart compared to upcoming phones in the next few years? Personally, I love my Infuse, and I think it'll last at least a year to three in terms of specs and software. Please, discuss.

Ok, this is one thing you need to learn when it comes to new phones / laptops/ technology in general. In a year, IT WILL BE OUTDATED. I got the Samsung Captivate and could not imagine a better phone ---besides it's constant GPS issues and until the charging port broke on it...but that was partly my fault. I got this phone and it is great as well--even better than the Captivate. At the time, I did not think that was possible.
The thing you want to do is buy a quality product for the time. The Infuse is one of those things. If you take good care of it, it will last you. I fell off of my bike a few weeks back going downhill. I was pretty banged up. My Infuse, even though it was in a case, got pretty banged up--- cosmetically around those silver edges. It is fully functioning otherwise. It is a solid product. It will last you a long time if you don't abuse it.
For example -- -I still have the Samsung Blackjack 2 as my backup phone and I use it when my "newer and better" phones give me problems. I've had it for forever. It is still a good phone despite being years old. You have a decent phone now--- we all do, as far as the Infuse is concerned. I haven't heard too many complaints, but only time can tell if that will change. Treat it well and it will remain good to you.

The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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I'm just asking if you guys think it'll last the above-average Android user the next few years. I know it's already outdated. It was probably outdated before it even came out.
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depends on the user. there isnt much the phone can't do but it depends on samsung releasing updates and on the community to put out quality mods. to be honest with a good rom a droid could still be a viable phone. my friend has a nexus1 and loves it. i actually kinda envy it, i love the screen and media capabilities on samsung phones but as a phone the nexus is perfect and there is no reason it should need to be anything more.
i have a phone lust though. i will likely get the sgsiii or whatever comes after the sgsii long before my contract is up.

The Infuse right now is still the absolute best phone on AT&T.
And will stay that way till the SGS 2 comes out....
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requiem3 said:
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.

I was looking at the specs of Galaxy II and the one thing I won't switch my infuse for is battery. It has 1600mA while Infuse has 1750mA. So when it comes to dual CPU, it should drain battery down pretty bad. I mean why will you ever even use that power on the phone unless you compute rocket science data using it. 4G also has a big mouth for drinking the juice out of your phone.
I'm not trying to say it is horible, it just would be a major concern if I'm a heavy data user.
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phones are always out of date typically within 6 months of being released there will be a higher end phone, with few exceptions. (i use to sell phones personally)
anyways, i had a samsung captivate which was the best phone when it came out, currently out of date, but it broke i payed money throuh insurance and luckily they were out so i got an infuse. very happy so far, and i can save my upgrade, im going to wait till i get a high spec (probably htc) lte phone

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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
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Sgs2 has a smaller screen...therfore it will seem to have better resolution next to the infuse...
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6 weeks, at best.
Coming from the Captivate it's already boring.
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The phone is already outdated when you bought it, but that is the rule with all tech lol. Will it last 5 years. If you take care of it sure but will it still be getting upgrades. Most likely not sense we are seeing higher and higher system requirements to run the newer updates.

It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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I am not saying it couldnt handle it, just saying that after the first OS update I would not look for any others. IF it gets 1 more after that then it will be lucky. As for the Nexus S, I had great hopes for it but then I found the Nexus S was by samsung and thought ok ill wait for the next and not the new prime may be a samsung as well so looks like ill wait till the next nexus is an HTC. But if it is a samsung or HTC as long as the phone is bought through ATT dont expect to get the same number of updates as the Euro versions of the same phone. They always will get more updates then its US counter parts. As always been the case and always will be.

This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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corythug said:
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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Yup thats why my next device will be a Nexus, as long as it is not made by samsung

ICS Getting Closer

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-ics/
Looks like its coming pretty soon. Maybe some awesome devs can work some magic and get us ICS before AT&T does.
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That's Awesome

So the original s2 and international only? Hope the skyrocket international comes along beside it so someone can port it to att for us.
Was really hoping for this to be att news. But I guess I should have less faith in them.

We have a different processor and gpu in our Skyrockets than the international version. Not sure if ICS for that device would help a lot for rom development on ours, but then again we have some amazing devs here on XDA

Or not...
They updated their article:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-ics/
Update: Samsung's just tweeted that March 10th date is (sadly) wrong. It added that once the upgrade schedule is concrete, it'll confirm through its dedicated Twitter account.
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Really is anybody here going to buy a Galaxy III or IV or XX after this.
I am sick of Samsung.
I am sure they will do well 99% of the people have no clue, but me I am getting only Nexus Devices go forward.

Is it me or is samsung acting like a bunch of monkey flinging poo

AstroDigital said:
Really is anybody here going to buy a Galaxy III or IV or XX after this.
I am sick of Samsung.
I am sure they will do well 99% of the people have no clue, but me I am getting only Nexus Devices go forward.
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Ditto. My Skyrocket is only a few months old and it's going to be 'old tech' as soon as the HD hits.

Update recalled. Or delayed which ever you prefer.
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My next device is going to be the next Nexus device. I'm tired of this carrier and OEM bull****.

AstroDigital said:
Really is anybody here going to buy a Galaxy III or IV or XX after this.
I am sick of Samsung.
I am sure they will do well 99% of the people have no clue, but me I am getting only Nexus Devices go forward.
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As long as LG isn't the one to get it.....my wife's (after I pawned it off on her) Thrill is still yet to be updated to Gingerbread.
Comparing Samsung to others like Motorola and HTC, they are all the same. At least they have been pushing updates for bug fixes and such. The Thrill has yet to get even ONE update and they have major rebooting issues along with others. I would buy another Samsung. Would prefer they were the ones to get the next Nexus phone again.

Gr8Danes said:
As long as LG isn't the one to get it.....my wife's (after I pawned it off on her) Thrill is still yet to be updated to Gingerbread.
Comparing Samsung to others like Motorola and HTC, they are all the same. At least they have been pushing updates for bug fixes and such. The Thrill has yet to get even ONE update and they have major rebooting issues along with others. I would buy another Samsung. Would prefer they were the ones to get the next Nexus phone again.
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I traded my Thrill for the Skyrocket because of this. SO glad I don't have that paper weight anymore. At least we know ICS is coming, and it's about ready. LG was just playing with our emotions.

I said the same thing about only getting Nexus, but I was unimpressed with the specs of this last one and my NS4G had horrible reception issues because of a ****ty antenna.
Add to this the fact that they omit an SD card slot <--That is the biggest deal breaker by far! I like being able to take all of my files with me from phone to phone and not have to spend hours transferring files when I get a new phone.

Its basically just the carriers, if you want to get updates and have an amazing phone get the international version! I would speend 300 bucks more to pick up a of gs2 when it first came out. But I get a free phone anyway. Same thing for the gs3 the galaxy devices are pretty dang good! I mean the gs2 is still on of the best IMO. Or at least just got past after a year of it being out. So grab that extra. Money and go for it
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Same here, I'm getting a nexus device, I'm done playng the waiting game with Samsuck
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It sucks that they're taking so long. But, if you want to stay w/ GSM, I think the SR is still the best game in town ICS or not. Battery life on the Nitro and Vivid aren't nearly as good. And when I played w/ them at the store, they weren't nearly as responsive as the S2 (i777 or SR). The Nitro's screen was nicer, but wasn't so much nicer that I'd give up battery life and performance (and LG doesn't do much better w/ updates either). Nexus is cool, but if you don't wanna pay $6-700, value external storage, and LTE, that's off the table, too.
Samsung should've been happy w/ the original S2 (still one of the best phones available right now). They didn't need to release so many versions. I had in mind before buying this phone that the i777 will get ICS before the SR (either thru XDA or official) since the hardware is nearly identical to the international version. But, LTE was more important to me than ICS.
We can keep waiting for that perfect phone, or be happy that we have an awesome phone right now.

nexus devices are always inferior then the latest phone of that year...For example...Nexus S was inferior then SGS and now Galaxy Nexus in inferior then SG2....
I agree with above poster...with so many devs working for our phones, I think I would always go for a better hardware then the one which will get updated quickly.
I am using Samsung Captivate now, I am already running ICS (almost stable). it was one of best smartphone hardware wise 2 yrs ago..so its still getting development really good.

Waiting for official updates is dumb. The devs is where the good stuff comes from. ICS will be on our SR's from our devs loooooooong before Samung or ATT gets it to us. Standby for the good stuff. It's coming.
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So there's no XDA release of ICS yet for Skyrocket?

Not a fully functional or stable one.

iOS6 Vs SGS2 with ICS

Can't resist bashing Apple. Here is my take on Apple announcements for iPhone on wwdc
Apple Maps: We had this for long time
Facetime over cellular: Skype over Android works very well and its available on all platforms
Facebook Integration: We have been able to upload pictures directly to facebook for a long time
Siri: Apple wins here. Lets see what S-Voice can do. I say Android is year or two away
Overall Android wins hands down. I have a SGS2 and Iphone4 on separate lines and SGS2 is far ahead on Apple.

cool story bro tell it again

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cnewsgrp said:
Can't resist bashing Apple. Here is my take on Apple announcements for iPhone on wwdc
Apple Maps: We had this for long time
Facetime over cellular: Skype over Android works very well and its available on all platforms
Facebook Integration: We have been able to upload pictures directly to facebook for a long time
Siri: Apple wins here. Lets see what S-Voice can do. I say Android is year or two away
Overall Android wins hands down. I have a SGS2 and Iphone4 on separate lines and SGS2 is far ahead on Apple.
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WWDC had more than 4 ****ing points. You suck at bashing.
Thanks for waiting my 2 minutes.
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IBTL

There's this article from BGR as well; though the author seems more fanboy than actual critic.
A counter argument can be made for each of his points. Some may be actually innovations, others have been in Android (either stock or through apps) for a long time.

kr3w1337 said:
WWDC had more than 4 ****ing points. You suck at bashing.
Thanks for waiting my 2 minutes.
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Haha. Keep it coming. Won't make Apple better.

He's not saying apples better bro he's saying if your gonna give an objective argument to make use of both sides of the coin and all arguments not just a few we choose android over ios yes but in the case of fairness you must present the argument logically and unbiased
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I was actually impressed with the keynote. The new Macbook Pro is actually fairly priced; it has an INCREDIBLE display resolution and comes with a SSD.
For iOS6, and every other OS they've pushed out, their point is not to innovate. Apple doesn't do things first, they do them correctly. I guarantee every one of those features will be smooth as ****, polished to the utmost refinement. From someone who had no idea what they'd add in iOS6 (and its supposed to be around 200 features; big and small of course) I was impressed with what they came up with.
I think the best way to put it is
Biggest thing to remember, These people that go crazy for these features that are already in Android aren't looking for a phone that does those things. They are looking for their iPhone to do those things.
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apple sucks! (post whoring)

yaba01 said:
apple sucks! (post whoring)
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I hope you sit on a thumbtack.

something that i do like about the iphone is constant updates for the phones. Getting an official ICS for the skyrocket has been long overdue. I just got a pre-order e-mail for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S III which I will not get since the skyrocket seems just as powerful (the AT&T version is a dual core 1.5ghz and not quad core). Plus it pisses me off that Samsung and AT&T is practically forcing normal users to turn to rooting their phone just to get a decent and updated rom on their phone.

alwaysonjohn said:
something that i do like about the iphone is constant updates for the phones. Getting an official ICS for the skyrocket has been long overdue. I just got a pre-order e-mail for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S III which I will not get since the skyrocket seems just as powerful (the AT&T version is a dual core 1.5ghz and not quad core). Plus it pisses me off that Samsung and AT&T is practically forcing normal users to turn to rooting their phone just to get a decent and updated rom on their phone.
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What people don't seem to understand is that the SIII has an S4 processor. Same clock speed, yes, but far superior architecture.
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iandr0idos said:
What people don't seem to understand is that the SIII has an S4 processor. Same clock speed, yes, but far superior architecture.
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Although I agree with you I must digress that all you will see is in quadrant scores and a few over the top games overall useability more than likely very similar
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I'm not saying it'll affect anything... just fixing a common misconception.
The skyrocket should be a top of the line phone, even after 2 years. ^.^
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alwaysonjohn said:
something that i do like about the iphone is constant updates for the phones. Getting an official ICS for the skyrocket has been long overdue. I just got a pre-order e-mail for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S III which I will not get since the skyrocket seems just as powerful (the AT&T version is a dual core 1.5ghz and not quad core). Plus it pisses me off that Samsung and AT&T is practically forcing normal users to turn to rooting their phone just to get a decent and updated rom on their phone.
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Samsung's delayed ICS for S2 to get people to buy S3. At least we have access to ROMS where dev's easily cook great ROMS. Poor iOS folks don't get that chance. They are still waiting for wifi and bluetooth toggle. The only thing apple gave them is move bluetooth to first page of settings with iOS6. Losers

cnewsgrp said:
Samsung's delayed ICS for S2 to get people to buy S3. At least we have access to ROMS where dev's easily cook great ROMS. Poor iOS folks don't get that chance. They are still waiting for wifi and bluetooth toggle. The only thing apple gave them is move bluetooth to first page of settings with iOS6. Losers
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If you are going to compare cooked roms then you have compare to jailbroken iPhone. And the jailbreak community does have most everything available to android.
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If you are going to compare cooked roms then you have compare to jailbroken iPhone. And the jailbreak community does have most everything available to android.
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Very true. Compare gingerbread 2.3.6 to iOS6 and I feel like the loser. iOS will never be as customizable as android, but android will never be as smooth nor have the consistant updates. What sold me? Neither. I hate the little ass screen.

cnewsgrp said:
Samsung's delayed ICS for S2 to get people to buy S3. At least we have access to ROMS where dev's easily cook great ROMS. Poor iOS folks don't get that chance. They are still waiting for wifi and bluetooth toggle. The only thing apple gave them is move bluetooth to first page of settings with iOS6. Losers
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You know why they don't care though? Because they can leave their bluetooth and wifi on 24/7 and still **** on our battery life.

The only hing apple is good at, is being able to make morons pay for the same phone over and over. They hardley touch the os itself. Instead they add apps and weird addons and change the version number. Honestly apple just go to show that people like to be told what to do and how to do it. I like choice and variety. All that fancy polishing g you all talk about is why the battery sucks and always will. Apple pushed for html5, yet they are near the bottom of the list for comparability. Apple sues any company that is about to come out with a phone that wipe its ass with an iPhone. Just shows their scared and don't want people jumping ship before the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s come out. LTE on an iPhone, lololololol. You will have to have it plugged in to use LTE.
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To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?

kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...

People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.

Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)

I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly

bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...

kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.

Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.

kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:

karan1203 said:
I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water

bongd said:
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.

mikelebz said:
Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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Anyone else buy the G2X because it was so close to Vanilla Android?

One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
Anyone else do the same thing? I honestly can't wait to chuck this thing, and now that it's down to $50 per line to get out of my contract 2 months early, I'm very tempted to do so and pick up a Droid DNA on Verizon or some other powerhouse.

It's not worth getting any android phone that isn't Nexus or has a huge HUGE base (galaxy s3). I wouldn't trust the DROID DNA, honestly. Verizon can really suck with updates, too.
Don't make the same mistake again.
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You should wait for May at least to see what Google rolls out, whether it is the moto X phone or something else. Also Id be surprised why you would do verizon and agree to pay prob at least $30 more per month when you can stick with Tmo or go simple talk with an unlocked GSM phone.

I got his phone for two reasons.
1. Because it was vanilla.
2. As soon as I heard nvidia was making tegra I checked everyday for news on the it's release.
Yes I waited a long ass time and nvidia didnt put out a tegra till they came out with tegra 2.
But I'm still happy with this phone.
Go to any phone thread, they all say the same thing.
"worst phone ever"
"worst company ever"
People are never happy.
This phone competes with phones coming out today with a proper stable ROM and I think that is great.

No it doesn't compete with phones coming out today. Don't try to ignore the truth.
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Overclocked to 1.55 ghz with the supercharger on aggressive, it performs well. I can do anything any new phone can do! (except take good pictures, camera became ****)

I also remember watching a promo video by LG on Tmo website claiming "pure vanilla Android experience." That along with the G2x name - hinting at G1 roots- and other factors (dual core, Tegra, etc.) falsely presumed timely updates or at least easy ROM updating. I came from the pure vanilla original Droid. I wanted the same experience. Boy did I make the same huge ironic mistake. Trouble is, this is the phone I switched my wife off her iPhone for. Disappointing at best.
True, there are some great devs who have made this phone passable. Unfortunately, TEGRA/nvidia had their hands cuffed and LG won't supply them with a key. Tmo is an enabler in the whole debacle.
Besides, even though I always will root my phone, one shouldn't have to for reliable functionality.
I think the only Android phone I will ever buy is a Nexus. Wait,I can't even buy an effing Nexus! LG should allow special Nexus purchasing concessions for all g2x owners. It might help me get rid of this nasty taste in my mouth
Now this phone is to old and too forgotten to have any hope. If you love this phone, great. But, my etudes phone is still completely stock. If you haven't driven a completely stock g2x lately. Try it. It is a pathetic sluggish joke that might be funny if it didn't freeze up during the performance all day long.
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You forgot to note that its horrible battery life as well with those mods.
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Yes, the almost vanilla Android was a major reason I got a G2x. Like others, I assumed that meant quick updates. And while I agree that it has very solid hardware that should perform better today than it would with old software, it's still nothing like the Note 2 I got to replace it.
As other have mentioned, a big failure with the phone, other than updates, is the camera. I have small kids, and the 2 second lag makes the camera next to useless. Even if the kids hold still long enough, the camera quality isn't very good.
Overall, I was happy with the phone for most of the 18 months I had it. If it had a better camera and got reasonable updates, I probably would have waited until my contract was up (although t-mo was great about upgrading me early, to my surprise).

Irishdoom said:
One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
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My words exactly. It was my first android and I did enjoy it, very briefly. Until the first freeze and random reboot. Of course that happened while I still could have returned the damn korean crap but I figured tmo and lg said they'll fix it right away, and they couldn't possibly abandon their customers right?!
Anyway. Finally dumped that piece of shmit and got a gs3. Can't be happier with this device, xda and t-mobile truly unlim h+

Irishdoom said:
One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
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Ditto here. This was my first foray into the smart phone world (had a feature phone previously) and the big reason I got it was because of the "pure vanilla Android experience" they were touting about it. I expected frequent updates, and a phone I'd be using for years.
Now, I'm torn. I actually still love my phone, but the lack of any *stock* update is disappointing. There are lots of roms/mods out there, but none of them are perfect, and I'm not hard core enough to try out different ones.
Actually, if I could just have a GPS that worked 95% of the time I'd be pretty happy. I've tried so many different tweaks and still can't get it to work fast and consistently.
And as much as I'd love to upgrade and get a Nexus 4 (which I'm close to being eligible for) the lack of a removable battery and an SD slot are VERY big downers.

Xtronomy said:
No it doesn't compete with phones coming out today. Don't try to ignore the truth.
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If it couldn't keep up then you wouldn't still be seeing kernels and ROMs being made and updated for this phone.
LG may have never gave the phone the support it deserved but this site sure has and I thank them for that.

Actually support of g2x is dying. Many great devs have moved on to better and newer phones.
LG never again for me! That's why I was so disappointed when goggles announced nexus 4 by lg...

Verizon SUCKS with updates, and they tried their damndest to keep certain apps widgets and irons of my new Note 2. Thankfully, that's why XDA exists. The bootloader took awhile to get unlocked, but we finally have some kernel/rom options and development from other carriers is making its way to our forums. God stuff.
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PainfulLover said:
Actually support of g2x is dying. Many great devs have moved on to better and newer phones.
LG never again for me! That's why I was so disappointed when goggles announced nexus 4 by lg...
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Its more nvidias fault then lg's. Nvidia is closed source so ofc there not gonna try and help LG out by giving them the drivers they needed for hw acceleration. If anything Google choosing LG for the nexus 4 boosted LG as a company as they actually release updates every other day practically, it is a nexus phone.. Just look at how well the LG nexus 4 has sold for proof. Nvidia and there closed source tegra need to stay off android IMO as they only hurt and delay android devices getting updated.
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