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ive searched all Donut ROM
and i keep getting mixed answers
i know there isnt any great games but i like some of them
and i also heard that not having the ram hack makes the phone
run smoother because of the available graphics on the phone.
any recommendations?
p.s. only DONUT rom no eclair thanks!
SuperD 1.9.3
Get the SuperD 1.9.3 w/o the ramhack. 3D games run great on it.
SJJTJJ said:
Get the SuperD 1.9.3 w/o the ramhack. 3D games run great on it.
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Yes, I also modified the no ram hack of superD_1.9.3, and the 3D games run smoothly, very good!
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Yes, I also modified the no ram hack of superD_1.9.3, and the 3D games run smoothly, very good!
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what do you mean by modified?
Donut roms:
BlueMagic (27,7 fps with neocore benchmark - sound off, 24,3FPS with sound)
SuperCSDI probably about the same (BlueMagic is based on that)
FastTest gaming edition
SuperD without ramhack is slooow in comparison to those.
not shure about wgarner's kernel.
The very best would be vodafone magic 32b... but its cupcake.
domenukk said:
Donut roms:
BlueMagic (27,7 fps with neocore benchmark - sound off, 24,3FPS with sound)
SuperCSDI probably about the same (BlueMagic is based on that)
FastTest gaming edition
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is that listing in order from best being on top?
ilaf0106 said:
is that listing in order from best being on top?
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It's my own opinion. haven't benchmarked fasttest properly but it felt a bit slower when shooting in armageddon squadron. overall very playable anyway.
Would like to see a benchmark of it. download neocore from the market
domenukk said:
It's my own opinion. haven't benchmarked fasttest properly but it felt a bit slower when shooting in armageddon squadron. overall very playable anyway.
Would like to see a benchmark of it. download neocore from the market
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koo ill try them
domenukk said:
SuperD without ramhack is slooow in comparison to those.
not shure about wgarner's kernel.
The very best would be vodafone magic 32b... but its cupcake.
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I want whatever you're smokin....
prove to me how the other roms you listed are faster running games?
Saying thanks to those that have helped you would be nice!
I would have just told you that you had posted in the wrong section and should be in Q&A :\
shadowch31 said:
Saying thanks to those that have helped you would be nice!
I would have just told you that you had posted in the wrong section and should be in Q&A :\
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hahaha i was gonna say thanks but was busy messing with this roms and
i also noticed that you always have something negative to say hahaha
thanks again though i dont wanna get the clown mad he's scary looking
would jit compiler make it better?
JIT makes the apps open and operate something like 3x faster (I think) but is still very buggy and can cause some FC errors from what I have read and is far from stable as of yet.
But if your games are still not playing properly on the suggested roms then a possible solution but be prepared for a few hiccups.
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JIT makes the apps open and operate something like 3x faster (I think) but is still very buggy and can cause some FC errors from what I have read and is far from stable as of yet.
But if your games are still not playing properly on the suggested roms then a possible solution but be prepared for a few hiccups.
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koo
graci appreciate the info
Super D 1.9.3 Non Ram Hack Ver. is definitely the one to get if you're into gaming.
Im running it now even though I have no major android games running but notice the emulators (nes,gb,gba) run more smoother and less lag.
Take chances and install that Rom and you will be set.
legend221 said:
Super D 1.9.3 Non Ram Hack Ver. is definitely the one to get if you're into gaming.
Im running it now even though I have no major android games running but notice the emulators (nes,gb,gba) run more smoother and less lag.
Take chances and install that Rom and you will be set.
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ill make sure to try it im chckin all of the with the neocore benchmark
edit:so with fasttest no ram hack 2.8 i get a 22.4 on the benchmark
how is that?
ilaf0106 said:
ill make sure to try it im chckin all of the with the neocore benchmark
edit:so with fasttest no ram hack 2.8 i get a 22.4 on the benchmark
how is that?
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24.3 on blue magic
but i guess you didn't set cpu speed to the max and operater to performance... Will help a frame or two.
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JIT makes the apps open and operate something like 3x faster (I think) but is still very buggy and can cause some FC errors from what I have read and is far from stable as of yet.
But if your games are still not playing properly on the suggested roms then a possible solution but be prepared for a few hiccups.
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Not true.
If anything, it makes Java parts faster. But 3D-games are mostly C anyway.
Plus JIT uses up more RAM what is desperately needed on our phones...
So no increase here. rather the other way round imho...
/edit: I'd love to have a benchmark table.
please benchmark superD, Cyanogen, SuperCSDI and Fasttest.
Also some older builds maybe....
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24.3 on blue magic
but i guess you didn't set cpu speed to the max and operater to performance... Will help a frame or two.
/edit: I'd love to have a benchmark table.
please benchmark superD, Cyanogen, SuperCSDI and Fasttest.
Also some older builds maybe....
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How would I set the CPU speed and operator
ilaf0106 said:
How would I set the CPU speed and operator
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Setcpu or overclock widget from this board/from market.
I've got 28.3 fps with airplanemode without sound on blue magic.
But i doubt that those are realistic gaming speeds. firstly there is no input. Input needs to be handeled what costs speed. Plus its a heavily optimized demo by qualcomm. I mean come on... they want to prove that their chips are worth buying... no game designer has enough time to get it running as fast as this one minute demo...
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/edit: I'd love to have a benchmark table.
please benchmark superD, Cyanogen, SuperCSDI and Fasttest.
Also some older builds maybe....
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I just got 25.3fps with sound on SuperD 1.9.3 + NoRamHack + JIT + 96MB Swap + 528Mhz min/max.
Here's some benchmarks...didnt do Neocore on all of them though, but will from now on(only 1.6 roms).
I'm running cognition 2.4.1 on my captivate and it's great unless my memory is low and then it's laggy and slow. 304mb of available ram for this phone is a joke so i need a way to manage my memory so that i have at least 100mb of ram free always or else it slows down. Does anyone know of an app that does that? i don't want a task killer. I'm getting sick of having to always use level 2 ram clear on the integrated froyo task manager. Also, I'm running launcher pro.
Android. You don't need to manage your memory; Android does this effectively and efficiently. Google the topic and you'll find a lot of information.
Get one of the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, it has 343mb of memory available.
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Get one of the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, it has 343mb of memory available.
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Oh i see. Is it as fast as cognition 2.4.1 and has ext4 lag fix imbedded? Can you give me the link please?
skinien said:
Android. You don't need to manage your memory; Android does this effectively and efficiently. Google the topic and you'll find a lot of information.
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Obviously it doesn't because I always have to click the level 2 ram clear or else it runs like a htc hero. I don't want it to use more than the amount i specify. If my phone had 512mb of ram than this wouldn't be an issue, mine shows 304mb free. What a mess.
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Oh i see. Is it as fast as cognition 2.4.1 and has ext4 lag fix imbedded? Can you give me the link please?
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Faster than cognition, it has universal lagfix included. Take your pick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818030
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
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Faster than cognition, it has universal lagfix included. Take your pick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818030
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
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Wow! Thank you so much! This phone is amazingly stable and fast now, the extra 36mb of ram helps a lot.
I've recently tried the Quadrant Standard Benchmark and noticed that my phone's score is severely lower than that of other reviewer's benchmarks? I usually score between 960-1060. Any Idea why I'm not getting into the 1100s? Even my brother's Infuse reached 1300.
Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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To be honest, if you're not noticing any lag then all should be fine. I recommend running a custom ROM. pretty much all the infuse roms convert your system to ext4 which is much faster than stock. If you need help with anything don't hesitate to ask, but in the right forum
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.
diablo009 said:
Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.
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apps running in the background can consume resources and affect the score. also rogers roms tend to score lower. it was that way on the captivate too. btw what's a build.xml? do you mean build.prop?
and to the op your score is in line with what you can expect. if you dont have any specific issues i wouldnt worry about it. quadrant is soo sensitive to atleast 2 areas (encoding/decoding media and file system reads) but not others that you can take an infuse to 4200 but it isnt gonna do too much that it didnt do before.
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Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda premium
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They really don't!! Neither does Antutu or Linpack.. Gives you a different number every time LOL!! But Definitely look at some of the other roms out there! The few dev's we have left need all the support we can give them!! THANKS INFUSE DEV's!!!!
Well, my tf101 is transfering data to the internal storage (/sdcard) at very slow speeds. Antutu is reporting Write speed of 4.5-8MB/s and Reed speeds of 19-22MB/sec.
This seems pretty bad in general, but my Rezound with similar specs is getting ~20MB/sec write speeds and it just says ">50MB/sec" Read speeds and doesn't even bother to give an actual value...
anybody know of any scripts, tweaks, mods, anything to improve the situation?
it is beause of the partitioning in honeycomb. The more data you have the lower the speed you can mess around with system tuner to get a better value though
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it is beause of the partitioning in honeycomb. The more data you have the lower the speed you can mess around with system tuner to get a better value though
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Can you clarify at all? How does the partitioning differ? I was getting speeds like that on my Rezound when it was running Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread, and now its running 4.0.1 and still getting much faster speeds than my TF. How is the partitioning in Honeycomb somehow affecting the transfer speed if a previous version of Android didn't exhibit this issue?...
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Can you clarify at all? How does the partitioning differ? I was getting speeds like that on my Rezound when it was running Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread, and now its running 4.0.1 and still getting much faster speeds than my TF. How is the partitioning in Honeycomb somehow affecting the transfer speed if a previous version of Android didn't exhibit this issue?...
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You could try slightly bumping up the read ahead on each memory block might help performance not so much speeds
blck0-1024kb
blck1-2048kb
Would be a start atleast hope it helps
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Hi,
Does anyone else have problems with sluggish, choppy performance on their Relay? I swear, when I open contacts, go to my phone, even when answering calls it seems like it takes forever, and sometimes it's ambiguous as to whether or not the phone registers input when I tap the screen or buttons. Is there anything that can be done? Will a custom Cyanogen work better than the stock rom? Should I root it after to OC it?
Also, another question I wanted to ask was that I tried following the steps listed on the Cyanogen website (for Windows), and it gave me Linux command lines to run, and it seems that other custom roms aren't compatible with TWRP or Wifi (or something else is wrong that is needed).
Can anyone help? Thanks! :fingers-crossed:
I wouldn't call that normal. It's always had a tiny bit of lag, but only a tiny bit.
CM is faster, yes.
I feel you shouldn't overclock the relay, and that you shouldn't need to for it to perform well.
You mustn't use TWRP with CM. You have to use clockworkmod recovery. This is easily installed with heimdall on any platform, not just linux.
Jax184 said:
You mustn't use TWRP with CM. You have to use clockworkmod recovery. This is easily installed with heimdall on any platform, not just linux.
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Is there a link to a page that can provide step by step information?
I appreciate it.
DJRepresent said:
Is there a link to a page that can provide step by step information?
I appreciate it.
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Yes, it's listed it the CM install directions.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_apexqtmo
Look under Installing a custom recovery.
Thanks.
Also, it says, "The ICS bootloader and radio are not compatible with CM10.2" and gives you those two zip files to download...what should I do with those?
Edit: I just flashed the latest 10.2 nightly as well as Gapps and the two supplemental downloads and it appears to be working WAAAY better. Very fluid, very fast, and no lag comparatively speaking. I really can't believe how T-Mobile fouled up this phone with their garbage ROM.
Just a few questions:
Are there any other supplemental downloads recommended?
Is it possible to use a modified stock ROM that isn't so slow / laggy?
Thanks!
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Thanks.
Also, it says, "The ICS bootloader and radio are not compatible with CM10.2" and gives you those two zip files to download...what should I do with those?
Edit: I just flashed the latest 10.2 nightly as well as Gapps and the two supplemental downloads and it appears to be working WAAAY better. Very fluid, very fast, and no lag comparatively speaking. I really can't believe how T-Mobile fouled up this phone with their garbage ROM.
Just a few questions:
Are there any other supplemental downloads recommended?
Is it possible to use a modified stock ROM that isn't so slow / laggy?
Thanks!
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I haven't seen any other supplemental downloads recommended for use.
In "jellybean is out!" thread you should be able to find gee one's debloated Jelly Bean rom, good to read final few pages for info on problems on getting it up and running: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40919585&postcount=30
I was wondering if you could help me out and run Antutu and also Quadrant Standard on the CM10.2 rom. I am interested in how well the rom currently performs on benchmark software as I noticed a big improvement in scores going from stock ICS to stock Jelly Bean rom. Also any feedback on battery life would be great and if you have ran into any issues yet?
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I was wondering if you could help me out and run Antutu and also Quadrant Standard on the CM10.2 rom. I am interested in how well the rom currently performs on benchmark software as I noticed a big improvement in scores going from stock ICS to stock Jelly Bean rom. Also any feedback on battery life would be great and if you have ran into any issues yet?
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My Quadrant Standard Score was 4745; Antutu kept crashing and restarting my phone.
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My Quadrant Standard Score was 4745; Antutu kept crashing and restarting my phone.
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Thanks for the info, I wonder why Antutu is crashing. Did you do a factory reset before installing the rom?
Also for Quadrant Standard, any chance of more detailed scores so can compare, this is what I got on stock rom: Total: 6121 CPU: 9589 Mem: 11455 I/O: 6537 2D: 1000 3D: 2024
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Thanks for the info, I wonder why Antutu is crashing. Did you do a factory reset before installing the rom?
Also for Quadrant Standard, any chance of more detailed scores so can compare, this is what I got on stock rom: Total: 6121 CPU: 9589 Mem: 11455 I/O: 6537 2D: 1000 3D: 2024
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I don't know if I did a factory reset. Originally I tried overwriting, but then it wouldn't load. So I think that yes, I did select wipe / reset in Clockwork and then reinstalled, and it worked.
Here are my Quadrant scores:
CPU: 7432
Mem: 10233
IO: 3434
2D: 533
3D: 2190
And as far as Antutu, I tried individual testing, and while UX crashed and reset, everything else ranked at 13,096. It showed me a bar of individual tests but I didn't see any numbers.
By the way, can I root my device now that CM is installed? Can I unlock it?
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I don't know if I did a factory reset. Originally I tried overwriting, but then it wouldn't load. So I think that yes, I did select wipe / reset in Clockwork and then reinstalled, and it worked.
Here are my Quadrant scores:
CPU: 7432
Mem: 10233
IO: 3434
2D: 533
3D: 2190
And as far as Antutu, I tried individual testing, and while UX crashed and reset, everything else ranked at 13,096. It showed me a bar of individual tests but I didn't see any numbers.
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Probably a problem with Quadrant Standard as I saw on YouTube some Nexus 4 on Android 4.3 score quite a bit lower. I decided to flash to CM10.2 in the end and it is awesome to use phone without the bloatware. Looks so much better. Also got score on AnTuTu of 17,784, ran stably on my phone.
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By the way, can I root my device now that CM is installed? Can I unlock it?
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You can root it but for unlocking I think you need the ICS stock rom as described on a thread on here: Link.
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Also any feedback on battery life would be great and if you have ran into any issues yet?
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Battery life seems more or less the same - but it's my second day using it. No performance issues so far but a few hiccups here and there.
Still, it's way better than the crap T-Mobile shipped it with.
Isn't the bluetooth flaky on CM on the Relay? I know it is on the Epic 4G. As fast as CM may be on Relay, I'd give that up for a stable bluetooth with stock Jelly Bean.
In my own experience, it seemed like it had a bit more lag after the OTA update from ICS to Jelly Bean. After I rooted it and froze (or removed) some of the bloatware, it's a bit less laggy.
I got my unlock code from T-Mobile a while back, and when I picked up an LG Optimus F3 (woohoo, LTE!), I got an H2O PAYG sim for the Relay. The unlock wasn't a problem on JB.
I'm still thinking of putting CM on it, though. I like the idea of cutting the bloatware down to absolute zero.
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Battery life seems more or less the same - but it's my second day using it. No performance issues so far but a few hiccups here and there.
Still, it's way better than the crap T-Mobile shipped it with.
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Seems similar to me too regarding battery life. Maybe stock with power saving mode could help eek out the battery a bit longer.
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Isn't the bluetooth flaky on CM on the Relay? I know it is on the Epic 4G. As fast as CM may be on Relay, I'd give that up for a stable bluetooth with stock Jelly Bean.
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Is this only with Wi-Fi on? I haven't tried out the bluetooth yet on the Relay.
So far, bluetooth works in my car flawless. Wifi works, but I'm not sure if Wifi calling is working or not.
Bluetooth under the CM10.2 nightlies should be fine. Bluetooth at the same time as WiFi can lead to some performance issues, but it can be alleviated by turning one or the other off, or by using 5.8GHz WiFi.
I guess a reason can arise where you can/want to use both wifi and bluetooth at the same time...but I can't think of any and typically I only use one or the other. So yeah, I meant bluetooth without wifi turned on.
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I guess a reason can arise where you can/want to use both wifi and bluetooth at the same time...but I can't think of any and typically I only use one or the other. So yeah, I meant bluetooth without wifi turned on.
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A common use case would be something like streaming a podcast/music/whatever over WiFi to a Bluetooth Headset while at the gym (or to a Bluetooth receiver in the house).
It's not MY use case, just think it's a reasonably common one.
For now, the functionality of BT and WiFi works insomuch as my wife's phone connects to WiFi where we need to, and Bluetooth in the car.
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A common use case would be something like streaming a podcast/music/whatever over WiFi to a Bluetooth Headset while at the gym (or to a Bluetooth receiver in the house).
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Ah ok. Is there any delay that you know of?
It's not MY use case, just think it's a reasonably common one.
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I got ya. :good: But normally I'd just use one or the other, not both simultaneously. CM came up, so I was wondering about that, especially in regards to the thread's title. lol When I get this phone (there doesn't seem to be anything more powerful than the Relay 4G with a physical keyboard at the moment), besides using it as, well, a phone, I'll use the Bluetooth functionality a lot, too. If its flaky on CM 10.2, I'll just deal with stock rom.