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CM7 vs EagleBlood

I have a big question that is been floating around in my mind.
We have CM7 which is based on ginngerbread and we got Eagle blood 1.03 which is gingerbread as well.
Why does it seems like eagle blood developers seems to develop way faster and have a more stable rom than CM7?
Is it because they had to port gingerbread to the G2x? If that its the case, wouldn't it be easier to grab the gingerbread leak and develop using that as the source?
eagle blood is from gingerbread leak and cyanogen isn't?
Also does it takes longer for CM7 to develop because they are adding more features to the ROM?
The reason I'm asking is because I had this questions and is nothing against CM7 directly at all, I just want to understand how they are doing it and see the benefits.
Thanks
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Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak with added tweaks.
Cyanodenmod is build completely from the ground up using the AOSP source code. It has features not found in ROMs released by manufacturers.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.

regP said:
Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak.
Cyanodenmod is build from the ground up using the AOSP source code.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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That clears up some of my doubts.
So basically they are using a gingerbread AOSP from google?
And what are the advantages of doing it this way instead of just grabbing a leaked ROM and tweak it.
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Once they get the device-specific stuff ironed out, feature updates can be added easily across multiple devices.

For example, if you look at the CM7 changelog the unlabeled changes are to all GB devices and the entries labeled "p999" are changes specific to this device.

moshe22 said:
That clears up some of my doubts.
So basically they are using a gingerbread AOSP from google?
And what are the advantages of doing it this way instead of just grabbing a leaked ROM and tweak it.
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Better performance. Manufactures ROMs often end up with bad coding which results in a device suffering from things such as bad battery life, lower performance, etc. Also with official ROMs you can't do much with it until they release the source code. And even then (at least with samsung) some things like driver source never get released which means the devs cant fully optimize the ROM. AOSP means full control over the ROM to make it do what you want it to do the way you want it to be done. It does take much longer to complete though which is why CM has nightly updates. Makes it easier to put out a nightly than to put out a whole new ROM for every bug they fix. I'm sure someone can explain this better than me.

r4d14n7 said:
For example, if you look at the CM7 changelog the unlabeled changes are to all GB devices and the entries labeled "p999" are changes specific to this device.
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Oh good to know, thanks
regP said:
Better performance. Manufactures ROMs often end up with bad coding which results in a device suffering from things such as bad battery life, lower performance, etc. Also with official ROMs you can't do much with it until they release the source code. And even then (at least with samsung) some things like driver source never get released which means the devs cant fully optimize the ROM. AOSP means full control over the ROM to make it do what you want it to do the way you want it to be done. It does take much longer to complete though which is why CM has nightly updates. Makes it easier to put out a nightly than to put out a whole new ROM for every bug they fix. I'm sure someone can explain this better than me.
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Wow, this really answers my question as to why it takes them longer. Thanks
So it means that cyanogen even develop their own drivers?
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You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.

MWBehr said:
You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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I must disagree. I LOVE CM 7 and ran build 11 and 13 and found it rather buggy right now. Sometimes the touch screen didn't recognize touches on the right side(I consider this a significant bug). When you call a number and have to punch in numbers (like a VM password or when dialing an extension) did not work for me(which I consider another significant bug). I also heard there are issues with it sticking APN settings(cant comment because I didnt really check that when I had cm 7 installed) I just dont think cm 7 is stable enough at the moment. Eagle Blood is running pretty well right now. I would say a lot better than cm 7 but that will change once CM gets the bugs worked out

MWBehr said:
You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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Yes, personal experience. Been running eb 1.02 and is been great.
I Just flashed CM7 #15 just to test it out and is buggy for me
-When i receive a call i don't get any sound from the ringer even though is not muted
-Sensors are like in auto brightness even though they are not
-The performance of the whole system isn't the best.
I am sure it will be the best ROM out there but as for now still only and nightly and is buggy
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One significant difference for me, which is due to the fact that Cyanogen has built their own rom with their different bluetooth stacks (as opposed to LG's custom ones), is that bluetooth controllers actually work with CM7. Useful for using a wiimote on emulators through HDMI
Just something to consider, no bluetooth controllers on EB.
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regP said:
Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak with added tweaks.
Cyanodenmod is build completely from the ground up using the AOSP source code. It has features not found in ROMs released by manufacturers.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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Right, and not only that, cyanogen has many different phones he and his dev team have to work on.
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Build #16 is out today and supposedly the TouchTones in the dialer and the backlight is fixed (thank god!)
But yes. Cyanogen builds their own kernel and drivers, which is why it usually is more compatible with stuff like WiiMotes and stuff. But once they get the Kernel working properly (which they are doing now) it is just a matter of updating the core OS then it can be pushed to all devices pretty seamlessly (I guess).
There are lots of benefits of using CM over standard stock Gingerbread. For one, Stock is 2.3.3 where CM7 is 2.3.4 so it supports lots of Googles new apps like Video in Google Talk and the new Cloud Music player.
Also there are tons of tweaks like Notification menu toggles, System Themes, Sound Profiles, Black-List calling, Several Lockscreen types and Widgets with Gesture support, etc the list goes on and on.
Between the Notification Toggles and Themes which you can install from the market, I'm hooked.
Plus it is the only Gingerbread rom that doesn't cause my phone to lockup/reset/Black Screen of Death/whateveryoucallit

MWBehr said:
You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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It has tons of bugs like inaccurate battery readings
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my concern is that is the g2x able to do 1080p video recording and high resolution picture like the stock rom? THis is the only reson why I'm still sticking with the stock rom.

MWBehr said:
CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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u must be high

jdaclutch said:
my concern is that is the g2x able to do 1080p video recording and high resolution picture like the stock rom? THis is the only reson why I'm still sticking with the stock rom.
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+1. I take a lot of photos and videos of my kids and would rather stick with 2.2 than have a gimped camera.

r4d14n7 said:
+1. I take a lot of photos and videos of my kids and would rather stick with 2.2 than have a gimped camera.
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Yeah, i take alot of pictures and videos too
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AOSP ROM Selection

I am going to root a friend's Inspire tonight and I've seen the difference in performance in AOSP vs. Sense on my EVO, so I'm completely sold on AOSP being the superior overall experience (Thanks Team Douche!!!). I have a couple questions, if anybody can take a moment to answer them for me.
More Reliable (GPS, MMS, etc.) AOSP ROM: GingerBeast 2.1.2 vs. CM7 7.0.3 vs. newest CM7 Nightly?
Is there any kernel that is better as far as stability goes, CM vs. any others?
I run CM7 7.0.3.1 with TIAMAT & ViperMOD on my EVO and it runs splendidly. I just wondered how I could get the closest experience on the Inspire.
Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me out!

mike.r.olson said:
I am going to root a friend's Inspire tonight and I've seen the difference in performance in AOSP vs. Sense on my EVO, so I'm completely sold on AOSP being the superior overall experience (Thanks Team Douche!!!). I have a couple questions, if anybody can take a moment to answer them for me.
More Reliable (GPS, MMS, etc.) AOSP ROM: GingerBeast 2.1.2 vs. CM7 7.0.3 vs. newest CM7 Nightly?
Is there any kernel that is better as far as stability goes, CM vs. any others?
I run CM7 7.0.3.1 with TIAMAT & ViperMOD on my EVO and it runs splendidly. I just wondered how I could get the closest experience on the Inspire.
Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me out!
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I'm running GingerBeast (as are a lot of others) and it's ROCK solid. Everything works very well, it's buttery smooth, stable, and gets great battery life. I'm using the kernel that comes with it, and I see no reason to change it.

So, sorry to ask for clarification, you're using GingerBeast and having no issues with sending/receiving MMS, GPS lock, etc?
What about this "tinny audio" issue I've read about?

mike.r.olson said:
So, sorry to ask for clarification, you're using GingerBeast and having no issues with sending/receiving MMS, GPS lock, etc?
What about this "tinny audio" issue I've read about?
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The tinny fix is already incorporate into all the latest AOSP ROMs. This was more of an issue back in February/March when these ROMs were in their infancy on the Inspire. The Inspire has a different audio chip than the DesireHD, so when the DHD ROMs start coming over to the Inspire is when this problem was noticed and fixed.
Based on my experience, almost all ROMs have occasional issues with GPS lock. There is a universal GPS fix that works very well most of the time. Link is in my sig.
The latest CM7 nightlies have been good. The only major issue occurring in them right now is an Exchange email bug; if your friend doesn't use corporate email then it's no problem obviously.
Gingerbeast is good and stable. Naturally since it was designed to be a pure AOSP ROM, it is missing a bunch of features that are in CM7. Some people don't really use these features so it's not a big deal for some.
CM7.0.3 is a good choice as well. It's missing some of the latest bells and whistles of the new nightlies, but it's a good ROM. It doesn't have any major problems that I'm aware of.
Regarding kernels, unless your friend is into undervolting and overclocking, it's perfectly fine to just stick with the default kernel that comes with these ROMs. But if he wants to play around with such things, the LorDMod kernels (in the DesireHD section) are popular. If you go with CM7.0.3 you'll want to use the LorDMod HD kernel ; if you go with a current version of CM7 then you'll want to use a LorDMod UE kernel.
Another good AOSP ROM is Team Phoenix's TPGB20110611-CM. Despite what the OP of this ROM's thead says, it is based on CM7 nightly 95, comes with a LordMod UE kernel and has been customized by the dev.

mike.r.olson said:
So, sorry to ask for clarification, you're using GingerBeast and having no issues with sending/receiving MMS, GPS lock, etc?
What about this "tinny audio" issue I've read about?
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No issues at all. And like the poster above me stated, the audio fix is incorporated.

mike.r.olson said:
So, sorry to ask for clarification, you're using GingerBeast and having no issues with sending/receiving MMS, GPS lock, etc?
What about this "tinny audio" issue I've read about?
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Most ROMs for Inspire are based of Desire HD. Inspire has better speakers compared to Desire. So the audio software on Desire sometimes produces "tinny" effect when at higher levels. So there is a little fix that put in place to let the audio come out well on Inspire.
When u flash GingerBeast, make sure u flash 2.1.2 that has this fix in place. If u flash 2.1, make sure u flash 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 updates one after other.
Edit: Henry beat me to it.

Thanks very much guys! I definitely appreciate all the information! I'll pop back in and let you know how it goes!

Just a little update!
I used the Ace hack kit, which was a breeze to deal with. (Props to attn1 for making that available!)
I flashed the radio that was in the first post of GingerBeast, then flashed GingerBeast, then flashed the LorDmodUE kernel and the -50UV script, booted up, installed SetCPU and I'm SHOCKED!
Stable OC at 1.84GHz?!?!? 2960 Quadrant score! That beats my other friend's Atrix all day long.
I lowered the OC to 1.38GHz with the interactive governor and this phone FLIES. I have a little Inspire envy while using my EVO now...
Thanks again for all your information guys! This phone has been completely blown wide open! I can not wait for my friend to see how amazing her phone is running!
I can't vouch for battery life yet, but I have a feeling that it should be significantly better, considering how dramatic the change was going from Sense to AOSP on my EVO.

Wow that is a high quadrant, I had 2400 on mine with some overclock on gingerbeast. Cool though.
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henrybravo said:
The tinny fix is already incorporate into all the latest AOSP ROMs. This was more of an issue back in February/March when these ROMs were in their infancy on the Inspire. The Inspire has a different audio chip than the DesireHD, so when the DHD ROMs start coming over to the Inspire is when this problem was noticed and fixed.
Based on my experience, almost all ROMs have occasional issues with GPS lock. There is a universal GPS fix that works very well most of the time. Link is in my sig.
The latest CM7 nightlies have been good. The only major issue occurring in them right now is an Exchange email bug; if your friend doesn't use corporate email then it's no problem obviously.
Gingerbeast is good and stable. Naturally since it was designed to be a pure AOSP ROM, it is missing a bunch of features that are in CM7. Some people don't really use these features so it's not a big deal for some.
CM7.0.3 is a good choice as well. It's missing some of the latest bells and whistles of the new nightlies, but it's a good ROM. It doesn't have any major problems that I'm aware of.
Regarding kernels, unless your friend is into undervolting and overclocking, it's perfectly fine to just stick with the default kernel that comes with these ROMs. But if he wants to play around with such things, the LorDMod kernels (in the DesireHD section) are popular. If you go with CM7.0.3 you'll want to use the LorDMod HD kernel ; if you go with a current version of CM7 then you'll want to use a LorDMod UE kernel.
Another good AOSP ROM is Team Phoenix's TPGB20110611-CM. Despite what the OP of this ROM's thead says, it is based on CM7 nightly 95, comes with a LordMod UE kernel and has been customized by the dev.
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Does my op need editing??
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adamholden85 said:
Does my op need editing??
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As of the time of my post, your OP was still saying nightly 77 and di11igaf kernel and all that old stuff that was in your last May release. I see you've got it updated now.

[Q] Is Cyanogenmod9 worth it?

So i've been doing some research about cyanogen mod 9 for my HTC desire and have read all the people's comments about how good it is but an still not convinced. I mean that i've heared that cyanogenmod 9 does not make your camera work. Thats a major set back isn't it? Also there are some other serious probs e.g WiFi, Google play apps e.t.c. So is cyanogenmod 9 worth all these troubles? Whats the up side?

The main benefit, is it gives people like me who own devices (samsung infuse) that dont get official ICS updates. It runs great on my device, and i prefer it to any other rom ive tried, but i use my sixaxis controller with my phone, and due to bluetooth not working im using CM7 til that issue is resolved. but in all honesty CM9 is the best custom Rom available for my device at least it you dont need bluetooth. it runs great and my battery life is great.

what about andriod apps. do apps run on such a firmware.
(espicially games)??

They certainly do! It's just like a normal ICS device - there's the Play Market and you can install any app suited for ICS
BTW, CM9 rocks, AOKP even more!

I Cyanogen 9 with my HTC ONE X. I also have problems with the Bluetooth works partially. After each ROM is different. Much like me, flash your phone to find THE right ROM.

Cyanogenmod 9 is brilliant if it's stable build. From your description they're still working on it,so I'd urge you be patient and try cyanogenmod 7 instead.
Or,check out MIUI4 rom if you're still interested in ICS
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The matureness of CM9 depends also on the device you own, and the available or unavailable drivers - in your case it seems there are problems with the cam.
I suggest to get CM7.2 instead, till those problems are fixed on your device.

CM9 will always run as It provides you the best latest features from google.

Only "problem" I've experienced on CM9 on my Epic 4g is that Dead Space is no longer recognized as an authorized device. Other than that, I enjoy using it over GB. It feels like the interface makes "more sense," but of course that's just a personal preference.

I not a huge fan of CM9 ...as i ahev flashed in S2 couple of times ...but still the force close issue persist with the nightly builds(ICS)...!!

I can't wait for a stable build for the GS3! (yet I have to )

DeltaBlast said:
I can't wait for a stable build for the GS3! (yet I have to )
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lets wait and see if they rocks or not

cm9
Using experimental cm9 build on Atrix. It's worth it, but it comes with sacrifices.
My phone is much much faster, smoother, and prettier. But at the cost of stability with the camcorder, and some obscure cm7 features.

Where is non-kexec CM9 for d2vzw?

I know that CM9 is officially stable and everyone is playing around with CM10 nightlies. I'd be happy enough to just use a stable CM9 rom, but can't find a non-kexec version.
All the talk here is now about CM10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783262
I'm guessing there wont be an official CM9 since i we probably missed the boat on that one, but is there an unofficial version floating around?

yeah i cant find it either, i dont think its supported by cyanogenmod, at least not yet, theyre focused on cm10. CM10 is definitely a daily driver though, check out out their nightlies theyre pretty stable

You'll probably never find a CM9 port for it when CM10 is developed as far as it is. Its already officially supported by the CM team. It would be a lot of work for a huge step backwards. That's like asking why Windows Vista isn't being ported over when you already have Windows 7.
I assume you're asking because of current issues with CM10? And because of these issues you're thinking that CM9 will do fine for now since its so well developed? Actually, all the same problems (sort of) would exist for CM9 but in a different manner. Hardware compatibility still would have to be smoothed out, drivers, RIL, etc etc. Its not cut and dry.
If that's not why you're wondering, then disregard everything I just said...lol.

that's pretty much what I was thinking. thanks for your replies.
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most stable 4.2 rom?

I've been wanting to give an aosp based Rom a try onthis phone. My main concern is stability and battery life. I know battery life is more of a kernel issue so I will address that later on. I've noticed some roms in original developement don't even specify which android version there based on, but which is currently most stable and 4.2? I need lte calls/sms/mms and camera to be working.
I'm basically looking for what has the LEAST issues. Has any developers gotten past the screen tearing yet?
And I know there are probably 100 of these threads, but none are current

the official cm10.1 by h8rift will usually be the most stable, as a lot of the other ones are based on that (i think). you should basically look for the most recently updated one. that'll have the newest features and latest bugfixes.
you can't go wrong with a bpear ROM, that guy is awesome and has released some of my favorite ROMs for this phone. link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212825
he always updates them quickly and squashes all major bugs. that one is new so it may have some bugs, but i'm sure they won't be there for long. then once he fixes them, you won't have to delete everything and clean wipe and all that, you'll just have to flash over it with the new one.
bugs vary from phone to phone, so the only real way to figure out what you like is to flash them and check

they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.

Running liquidsmooth Stable and its great. Using it as a daily driver.
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DvineLord said:
they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
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Running official 10.1 nightly with vz oc linaro kernel and disable HW overlays on I get ZERO tearing. I put it at standard clock speeds to and its great and very stable. Only time it freezes is every once in a great while after a phone call. Other than that I'm extremely happy.
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I'm running the Bpear CarbonRom 1.6 source build, underclocked to 1134mhz and still running smooth and stable.
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my personal experience
the most stable tend to be the ones that are more popular/bigger like CM 10.1, AOKP, etc.. at least in my experience. Though I personally love jellybam. I highly recommend it especially if you're a person who loves great audio. Though the only kernel that would work it is Rohan's beta as far as I know

There is no "most stable" ROM. Everyone uses their phone differently, and your mileage can and will vary. Same thing with battery life (and probably has as much, if not more to do with other factors, such as your geographic location and radio).
Its easy to look through the ROM threads to see what specific issues people have, known bugs, etc. Aside from that, just pick some that look like they fill your needs/preferences and try them out.

Since every device handles software a little differently, you need to try it out for yourself and see if you like it. Thats the beauty of XDA, you get to try it out yourself and see if YOU like it.
So since everyone has different options, Im going to close this before it becomes a BEST ROM THREAD... and we dont allow those.