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Just showin off a bit : )

So after reading nearly 5 hours and spending my time in the wee hours of morning, I finally did all the "stable" mods for the phone... If you haven't been reading, make sure you guys check out the stuff in the development forum.
After all modifications, I was able to get 2701 points in quadrant benchmark. What mods did I do?
-i9000 eclair flash (JM5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734871
-Alternative mimocans lag fix
(one click installer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749495)
-One click root (googled it for i9000)
-Overclock kernel 1.0Ghz to 1.2Ghz
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746343)
This stuff really does help out your phone folks. Bench it now with quadrant, then take a peak at the other stuff and make magic happen. If anyone needs any additional help setting up their captivate, I'm more than happy to help.

I agree those fixes help speed a lot. But the quadrant score is meaningless. the speed hack creates an io loopback. The loopback just tells quadrant what it wants to hear.

Does your BT work on the european ROM. For me all people hear is a gargeled mess on there end?
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Can you post the results of these tests:
Neocore
Linpack
CPU Benchmark

I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?

jhego said:
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
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Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.

modest_mandroid said:
Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
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This is correct and to be honest there is way to much weight in the I/O tests. That is the only reason that the stock Droid X bests the Gal X. It has more weight than cpu and gpu so you can't put to much into those scores. They really don't mean anything more than bragging rights. What I am interested in is real world usage.

Real world use with the hack provides amazing speed gains opening and switching apps. Io heavy apps are very much improved while open too. It's finally as fast as the iphone.

Whats your battery life like after the overclock?

The score ended up getting lower and lower every time i used quadrant. 2701 is the highest I was able to get so far, but that's with a fresh install of the rom and all the stuff before I started loading on apps. Everytime I ran the benchmark, I of course killed the apps beforehand.
The battery life is the same- to be honest. This is me comparing a rooted stock ROM to the somewhat fresh install of the eclair i9000. The phone is very snappy. I came from an iPhone 4 and one of the biggest eye sores to me was the less-fluidness of changing programs, response to buttons (homescreen-back button) and pinch to zoom. After all these changes, it's a whole different story. Browsing is very appealing, especially since pinch to zoom isn't jagged or slow. The smoothness of this functionality is on par to an iPhone. And there is no waiting when I press the home button or back button.
True, maybe these numbers aren't considerably accurate (as far as the lag fix and EXT2) but at least it shows raw computing capability in it's current state... meaning, the usage of a virtual EXT2. Never the less, the phone is still all around faster, even if it isn't exactly the proper way of going about it.
The only problem I've seen so far is that it likes to randomly shut off. Won't respond to anything unless if I soft reset it. I haven't really found what causes it, since the consistency of it happening goes about in a non set pattern.

I didn't see any real world increase .. so I reverted back in about 4 hours.... I'd rather have the memory than a number that don't transfer to real world speeds...

What's up with Linpack?

Ok I don't know if it's just my phone or not, butt has anyone noticed a difference in the Linpack app?
My scores seem lower, but who can be sure. The main thing I've noticed is the time. A message comes up where the time used to say 0.12, now says "could take 30+ Seconds"
Anyone else seeing this or is it something on my end?
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Should be in general...
But yes, there is a new linpack. It's more accurate and scores are lower.

They made the results more accurate by increasing the benchmark runtime/the amount of data it has to process. You can't compare old linpack scores with new ones... and no your phone hasn't slowed down or anything bcuz of the lower score... your 1st results (referring to old linpack) just weren't as accurate

Degraded 3D Performance with Froyo/Cog 2.2?

Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...

Lencias said:
Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...
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I noticed that framerates were lower as well, but only about 4 or 5 FPS. A drop this small isn't really all that significant, and 3D performance at 40 FPS rather than 44 FPS is still much better than a phone like the EVO which runs at like 18 FPS, so I wouldn't really worry that much

Yeah, I noticed it too. I'm also noticing other slowdowns, like a lag on the app drawer screen between my finger swipes and corresponding animations on the screen. If I swipe left or right, the actual swiping animation happens a split second later (noticeable lag). Something tells me this isn't the release build of this rom.
I'm also noticing that the battery dies much quicker with this new rom. I'd get about 2 days of use out of JH7 with the amount I use the phone, with JI6 I'm lucky if I get 8-10 hours.

Actually the benchmark result is quite amazing id say
It scores 1900+ in quadrant standarf
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Lencias said:
Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...
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You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!

Use Neocore, that is a better FPS than quadrant. I still get 55.5/6 with Neocore so 3d performance is not degraded, at least not on my phone.

I'd expect some continued optimization of Froyo 2.2. Remember how laggy JF6 was? Then it got way better with JH2/3/7. I expect progress like that with the Froyo builds as well. With OCLF, JI6 is actually fairly impressive speed wise.

kennethpenn said:
I'd expect some continued optimization of Froyo 2.2. Remember how laggy JF6 was? Then it got way better with JH2/3/7. I expect progress like that with the Froyo builds as well. With OCLF, JI6 is actually fairly impressive speed wise.
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Hmm.. did you do anything after you flashed, like cleared dalvik cache and whatnot? Mine is actually running slower (UI-wise) than JF6

Its funny you posted this because I noticed it as well today when I ran Quadrant just to see what it would get. I think Quadrant is a horrible tool for benchmarking now since it can be so easily manipulated, but I did notice the FPS drop myself.

Gles 2/1 is perfectly fine, i scored 46fps on nenamark, so no need to worry about 3d performance, i do admit 2d does stutter a little tho.

designgears said:
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!
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Take the man's advice! Quadrant is an awful way to measure performance on the Captivate. Quadrant is biased towards Snapdragon processors, and isn't all that accurate.
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It's running fine for me.
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Actually using NenaMark1 which is a benchmark app specifically for OpenGL2.0 I get slightly higher scores than on 2.1.

designgears said:
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!
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dg, may as well save your breath. No matter what is said or done, there will always be people who complain that X is slower than when it was Y and be sure that they are right (and will argue they are right to their dying breath).
Synthetic benchmarks are b***it on a multitasking OS anyway, at any given time any thread can tie up a resource the synthetic benchmark needs or it may not. The only way you could truly benchmark something like this while still allowing multitasking would be with a long range sample like a few hours, the 30 -70 seconds Quadrant runs is a worthless snapshot in time.
They all think they are getting an answer but all they are really doing is using a magnifying glass on a Seurat and wondering why they don't get the big picture. Of course the performance issue couldn't be one of the apps they have installed or that has updated since the last time they benchmarked.
I have 206 apps installed on my captivate with even a ridiculous amount like that and more stuff than the average running I can still get a quadrant score of over 950, its a snapshot in the middle not an effective way to judge a film.

For everyone whinging about reduced "3D" performance, is the actual handset slower in real, day to day use?
This is stock 2.1 Firmware vs stock 2.2 Firmware.
Not Cognition/custom rom with lagfix vs Stock 2.2.

As much as I don't like benchmarks, in this they are only confirming the slow downs I'm seeing in real world use on the leaked froyo rom. (Not cognition)
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The first time I flashed 2.2 I saw some lag in the form of occasional black screens and delayed responses, even after installing OCLF.
I used Odin One-Click to flash back to JF6 and did a master clear before installing Cognition 2.2. Immediately applied OCLF before doing anything else. Not seeing the black screens and delayed responses this time. Some are suggesting it's the master clear that helps.
As for 3D performance, animations and scrolling between homescreens are a lot smoother than they were in 2.1. Games run awesome too. The only two places I notice some skippyness are in the app drawer (not often though, and very minor) and in the browser (this is due to a known memory leak bug).

1randomtask said:
For everyone whinging about reduced "3D" performance, is the actual handset slower in real, day to day use?
This is stock 2.1 Firmware vs stock 2.2 Firmware.
Not Cognition/custom rom with lagfix vs Stock 2.2.
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Yeah, I actually never bothered benchmarking, but I'm experiencing noticeable lag between swipes and corresponding animations in the app drawer and launcher.

modest_mandroid said:
Yeah, I actually never bothered benchmarking, but I'm experiencing noticeable lag between swipes and corresponding animations in the app drawer and launcher.
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I have never experienced that on 2.2, even before applying a lag fix. I suggest One-Clicking back to JF6, doing a master clear, and then installing 2.2 again.

No drop vs stock, the overclock kernel gave the extra fps. it also overclocked the gpu by 11%. 4-5 fps out of 40-45 is right in that area.
Edit :.i did a master clear so maybe that's why I don't see a problem
Not all benchmarks will work because our phones are capped at 56 fps. A benchmark needs to bog the gpu down below that for the whole test to get an accurate measurement. Quadrant does that for only party of the test. Many benchmarks can't do that at all.
Quadrant is a decent bench mark but our phones will not see the score increase of a snapdragon with froyo. linpack shows greatly inflated scores on snapdragon froyo devices. Greene computing goes over this on there website.
http://www.greenecomputing.com/
the full version of quadrant shows that the hummingbird and the processor in the droid 2/x mop the floor with the snapdragon in all areas but processing speed. The hummingbird having an edge over the droid x particularly in the 3d area but losing overall because of the rfs file system lag Which is apparently is weighed heavily and the reason the lagfix blows the score out of proportion and the different lagfixes have big gaps in the score while real world performance is not even noticeable.
http://slideme.org/application/quadrant-advanced
Composite scores don't mean anything and that is my gripe with quadrant, there is no way to decide how to weigh file system benchmarks against processor benchmarks against 3d, each area must be compared separately, and the user should be able to decide what that means.
Edit: linpack shows a huge increase over stock. 13.77 vs the 9.61 I got with voodoo and overclock. But still not at the level of a snapdragon. Wait till the next generating of arm processors come out, if you think a snapdragon/hummingbird hybrid would be awesome that's nothing compared to what's in the works. Higher clock speeds and multi-core cpu's aren't far away.
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Benchmark tests

Is there a benchmark test out there that can accurately judge a phone's performance vs another's? I continually see that people disregard quadrant, but i still want to be able to reliably test my phone's capabilities against someone else's.
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meh....all of it is almost completely useless.
ill tell you this. ive flashes every single rom on here, overclocked all the way up to 1800 and underclocked down to 700. ran every where in between for multiple days, ran every precievable benchmark test i could get my fingers on. getting scores as horrible as 1200, up to 3200 in quadrant. linpack from 20 to 60
and you know what? it has made absolutley ZERO impact on how the phone works with every day use.
when i realized this, was because i THOUGHT i had my phone set to 1800mhz, but didnt actually check the "apply on boot" box, and i was running at 1000mhz for two weeks thinking "wow this overclock makes my phone fast!"
yeah. the only time i see the difference is when performing tests.....oh and underclocking at 700 made the phone laggy, 1800 made it prone to lock up. but i can not tell a differnece in the actually function of the phone in day to day use between 800 and 1600 mhz if its on a good rom.
i get the fun of seeing the scores. but it really is completely useless. i was all about overclocking to see that high linpack and quad score....but now i run steadily underclocked, get crappy scores, and my phone functions flawlesly.
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Look up cf-bench in the market it is supposed to be the most accurate least biased benchmark out there. There is also a thread on it in the general android app section.
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Really bad performance

Hey everyone!
Sorry if I do or say something wrong or in a wrong place, as this is my first post here and I really need your help.
I have just received my Nexus 5. I was loving it so far, but I have recently noticed a weird problem - the youtube videos in HD were really choppy. That is when I have decided to get AnTuTu and test my device with it. 23k!? That is barely more than Galaxy Note 2. Something is definitely wrong with my device and I can't seem to find what. Please help!

I don't see a problem here.
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I don't see a problem here.
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Is it supposed to score that low? I may be missing something, but shouldn't it score higher than SGS3?
And what about the jerkiness of the videos on youtube?

melchiorum said:
Is it supposed to score that low? I may be missing something, but shouldn't it score higher than SGS3?
And what about the jerkiness of the videos on youtube?
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mine score around 22k, and work awesome

I did 3 runs of Antutu.
Run #1 22k
Run #2 29k
Run #3 26k
Just ran it again after making sure every app was closed, 29k.
Hit your multi task button and swipe close every app then try it.
No idea why its random.

YouTube is buttery smooth here. I don't see how it's normal if it's choppy on one of the fastest CPU. I would try a factory reset.

Most people including me have noticed good performance in everyday usage, but poor results with benchmark such as Antutu.
My investigation involved monitoring soc (cpu) temperature and clock frequencies.
I observed that the standard kernel that comes with Kit Kat has thermal management that aggressively throttles CPU clock frequencies when the temperature exceeds 63°C.
This will cause the clock frequencies to be reduced in an attempt to lower temperatures. With a benchmark like Antutu that causes all four CPU cores to be heavily loaded and run initially at maximum clock rate of 2265 MHz this will lead to clock frequencies dropping as far as 1100 MHz occasionally, with substantial drop in performance.
I have been unable to determine if the Adreno 330 is also subjected to similar thermal throttling.
Custom kernel will provide the way to overcome this for those willing to modify.
The highest Antutu score I've seen on their website is 30000, which is some way below other Snapdragon 800 powered phones, and most scores are below 25000, which can be bettered BT Snapdragon 600
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Thank you for your responses. I am not the only one then.
But I would still like to find out what exactly is wrong with youtube. Every video's choppy, there's a lot of stuttering and frame skipping. Launching videos from Chrome feels better, but not much.

melchiorum said:
Hey everyone!
Sorry if I do or say something wrong or in a wrong place, as this is my first post here and I really need your help.
I have just received my Nexus 5. I was loving it so far, but I have recently noticed a weird problem - the youtube videos in HD were really choppy. That is when I have decided to get AnTuTu and test my device with it. 23k!? That is barely more than Galaxy Note 2. Something is definitely wrong with my device and I can't seem to find what. Please help!
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Mine runs everything perfectly smooth, but when I plug in to charge, everything is choppy and laggy. Happens on home screen/app drawer/apps
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Don't forget the recently documented "optimizations" that most manufacturers are building into their devices. Benchmarks are beginning to mean less and less as manufacturers have discovered their use in marketing.

mevensen said:
Don't forget the recently documented "optimizations" that most manufacturers are building into their devices. Benchmarks are beginning to mean less and less as manufacturers have discovered their use in marketing.
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Yeah, I get that.
But mine still performs horribly in videos. I have just done the factory reset - to no avail. Youtube is completely unwatchable. I have tried to plug the charger in (just to rule out some weird power-saving issue) - same problem. Haven't tried to launch a video from the device itself yet though. I have also tried Real Racing 3 just to test the performance, and I guess it's OK. It's not prfect, as I can feel some framerate drops, but it is nowhere near as bad as the Youtube jerkiness.
No idea what's going on. Seems like no one else is having such a problem. Probably gonna have to return the device.