Ok I don't know if it's just my phone or not, butt has anyone noticed a difference in the Linpack app?
My scores seem lower, but who can be sure. The main thing I've noticed is the time. A message comes up where the time used to say 0.12, now says "could take 30+ Seconds"
Anyone else seeing this or is it something on my end?
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Should be in general...
But yes, there is a new linpack. It's more accurate and scores are lower.
They made the results more accurate by increasing the benchmark runtime/the amount of data it has to process. You can't compare old linpack scores with new ones... and no your phone hasn't slowed down or anything bcuz of the lower score... your 1st results (referring to old linpack) just weren't as accurate
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So after reading nearly 5 hours and spending my time in the wee hours of morning, I finally did all the "stable" mods for the phone... If you haven't been reading, make sure you guys check out the stuff in the development forum.
After all modifications, I was able to get 2701 points in quadrant benchmark. What mods did I do?
-i9000 eclair flash (JM5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734871
-Alternative mimocans lag fix
(one click installer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749495)
-One click root (googled it for i9000)
-Overclock kernel 1.0Ghz to 1.2Ghz
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746343)
This stuff really does help out your phone folks. Bench it now with quadrant, then take a peak at the other stuff and make magic happen. If anyone needs any additional help setting up their captivate, I'm more than happy to help.
I agree those fixes help speed a lot. But the quadrant score is meaningless. the speed hack creates an io loopback. The loopback just tells quadrant what it wants to hear.
Does your BT work on the european ROM. For me all people hear is a gargeled mess on there end?
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Can you post the results of these tests:
Neocore
Linpack
CPU Benchmark
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
jhego said:
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
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Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
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Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
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This is correct and to be honest there is way to much weight in the I/O tests. That is the only reason that the stock Droid X bests the Gal X. It has more weight than cpu and gpu so you can't put to much into those scores. They really don't mean anything more than bragging rights. What I am interested in is real world usage.
Real world use with the hack provides amazing speed gains opening and switching apps. Io heavy apps are very much improved while open too. It's finally as fast as the iphone.
Whats your battery life like after the overclock?
The score ended up getting lower and lower every time i used quadrant. 2701 is the highest I was able to get so far, but that's with a fresh install of the rom and all the stuff before I started loading on apps. Everytime I ran the benchmark, I of course killed the apps beforehand.
The battery life is the same- to be honest. This is me comparing a rooted stock ROM to the somewhat fresh install of the eclair i9000. The phone is very snappy. I came from an iPhone 4 and one of the biggest eye sores to me was the less-fluidness of changing programs, response to buttons (homescreen-back button) and pinch to zoom. After all these changes, it's a whole different story. Browsing is very appealing, especially since pinch to zoom isn't jagged or slow. The smoothness of this functionality is on par to an iPhone. And there is no waiting when I press the home button or back button.
True, maybe these numbers aren't considerably accurate (as far as the lag fix and EXT2) but at least it shows raw computing capability in it's current state... meaning, the usage of a virtual EXT2. Never the less, the phone is still all around faster, even if it isn't exactly the proper way of going about it.
The only problem I've seen so far is that it likes to randomly shut off. Won't respond to anything unless if I soft reset it. I haven't really found what causes it, since the consistency of it happening goes about in a non set pattern.
I didn't see any real world increase .. so I reverted back in about 4 hours.... I'd rather have the memory than a number that don't transfer to real world speeds...
Is there a benchmark test out there that can accurately judge a phone's performance vs another's? I continually see that people disregard quadrant, but i still want to be able to reliably test my phone's capabilities against someone else's.
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meh....all of it is almost completely useless.
ill tell you this. ive flashes every single rom on here, overclocked all the way up to 1800 and underclocked down to 700. ran every where in between for multiple days, ran every precievable benchmark test i could get my fingers on. getting scores as horrible as 1200, up to 3200 in quadrant. linpack from 20 to 60
and you know what? it has made absolutley ZERO impact on how the phone works with every day use.
when i realized this, was because i THOUGHT i had my phone set to 1800mhz, but didnt actually check the "apply on boot" box, and i was running at 1000mhz for two weeks thinking "wow this overclock makes my phone fast!"
yeah. the only time i see the difference is when performing tests.....oh and underclocking at 700 made the phone laggy, 1800 made it prone to lock up. but i can not tell a differnece in the actually function of the phone in day to day use between 800 and 1600 mhz if its on a good rom.
i get the fun of seeing the scores. but it really is completely useless. i was all about overclocking to see that high linpack and quad score....but now i run steadily underclocked, get crappy scores, and my phone functions flawlesly.
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Look up cf-bench in the market it is supposed to be the most accurate least biased benchmark out there. There is also a thread on it in the general android app section.
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Hi guys, just got my HOS yesterday and am extremely happy with it! However something has been bugging me. Benchmarking scores on quadrant.
I know that we should all take benchmarking scores with a pinch of salt, as it does not determine the real world usage of the phone. But seeing everyone consistently getting high 4000s to 5000s on the net and me only getting low 4000s is worrying me.
When I first got my phone, I quickly set up my phone and once that was done i installed the quadrant to feast my eye. It scored 4600+, and I did several more times with reboots here and there and it was all nearly the same give and take 100+. I then did a factory reset wondering why I can't get the score any higher and ended up now only scoring from 4200 to 4500+ tops.
Wonder if there's a problem with my device?
Anyone?
Quadrant is basically a random number generator
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Most of us have rooted devices with custom roms/kernels with their own little goodies and enhancements. Overclocking and changing the governor will generally increase benchmark scores.
@above, that is mostly true. This is a valid statement for any benchmarker.
I get 5013 on stock. Stop worrying. Quadrant is not accurate
Yeah just got my One S and experiencing the same, it's not lagging but I've read it should be 5000 stock but I've maxed at about 4600
I've gotten 4600 and 5200, then uninstalled.
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Hi guys, just got my HOS yesterday and am extremely happy with it! However something has been bugging me. Benchmarking scores on quadrant.
I know that we should all take benchmarking scores with a pinch of salt, as it does not determine the real world usage of the phone. But seeing everyone consistently getting high 4000s to 5000s on the net and me only getting low 4000s is worrying me.
When I first got my phone, I quickly set up my phone and once that was done i installed the quadrant to feast my eye. It scored 4600+, and I did several more times with reboots here and there and it was all nearly the same give and take 100+. I then did a factory reset wondering why I can't get the score any higher and ended up now only scoring from 4200 to 4500+ tops.
Wonder if there's a problem with my device?
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I got my US T-Mobile One S on release date with 1.53 build and got 5300+ on quadrant. Rooted with custom kernel I have gotten close to 5800.
I heard that the update to 1.84 build on stock phones brought the quadrant scores down to mid 4000s. So there is nothing wrong with your phones that were bought with 1.84 build.
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I've gotten 4600 and 5200, then uninstalled.
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Read in several other threads everyone else is experiencing the issue, so the benchmark drop after the HTC system update is completely normal. The update improves network and signal but apparently lowers quadrant scores, the device is not noticeably slower though.
first time i got the phone i got almost 30k score in antutu,then i installed a custom rom,i got like 27 then 24(rebooted),22,19.(tryd on few custom rooms).now i found a flashable officiall rom.i got like 25k max.las was 24.idk whats happening...(no custom kernel or other staff used or smth that can take the power..on last test i used an custom kernel,but not oc)
strange QQ
It shows benchmark apps are no different than a random number generator...
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its scarry when you see a device with same specs and without latest android version on better place or even 1st
uNb0rN1 said:
its scarry when you see a device with same specs and without latest android version on better place or even 1st
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Scary? Really? Benchmarks are meaningless. This phone runs better in day-to-day use than pretty much anything else. Don't stress out over benchmark scores.
uNb0rN1 said:
its scarry when you see a device with same specs and without latest android version on better place or even 1st
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Take a look at this article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
Hi,
Instead of always say "benchmark means nothing", "benchmark are useless", "benchmark are not real life" (obviously), bla bla bla... Maybe the OP could know why his score are low or why there is too much difference?
Like for some other guys if almost everyone have, it's an example, about 35 000 in Antutu and one guy post because he have only 20 000, I think he could know why, what is wrong, etc..., right?
But no, each time there is always the same kind of "ready repplies" like above...
Benches can be useful if you know how to run them (and yes there is a manner to run a bench like CPU temp at the beginning, with data active or not, after reboot or not, etc...) and how you interprete them (the most important, at least for me), even Quadrant can be useful for a quick bench but it's just my opinion (ok Quadrant seems to have more variations than Antutu)... And i don't manipulate them (like with the FPS unlock, I mean the debug.egl... build.prop edit) after it's for fun too.
And if I tweak my device with VM, governor, i/o scheduler settings for example (and it is not manipulating, not for me, it's some real "tweaks" that you can judge too in real use, in general UI, user experience (improvement or not) and not only in benchs) I see in first in general UI and after I look in bench to see...
Yes don't get these benches as a scientist approach or the best accurate result or a result to garantie you a general user experience (bad or good), for example my main goal is about general UI (smoothess, speed, responsiveness) and after I play with benchs because it's always fun...
But the tendance, here on XDA, is to ban benches with always the same words and the same mind (because xx says benchs are useless, xy repeat the same thing without knowing anything or xx have a bad/low score so benchs are useless, etc, etc, etc...), it bothers me... (it's not directed to you in particular).
And in general the guys who post a result of bench post a screenshot of the overall score and nothing more... The most important is to know how you got this score (governor settings, rom, kernel, "tweaks", etc...) and the detailed score is also important.
A bench makes sense with explications and details on how and why you have this or that score.
I agree that a screenshot without information means nothing..., I'm the first to say that in different bench threads but people don't care and continue to post a screenshot only, it's absolutely ridiculous, but well...
It's like the battery stats or screen on time (and we have at least to thrads for that...), it's a kind of benchmark, but here people agree more with these (?) and same thing: 2 or 3 screenshots without any information (settings or usage) means nothing...
In preparation of car engine you run benchs (for the raw power) and you test also your car on street to see the comportement in general not only on a bench and also ther is some conditions to respect before run a bench like for a phone. It's the same thing for a device if you like tweak it, you tweak your device, you run bench to see the result, you use it in day to day use to see if there is an improvement or not (general UI, battery).
It's the same thing for a sportsman, the 100 m, marathon, etc... it's a kind of bench, you don't use it always in "real life" nor it suggests your real state but people don't shout against, right? But benches for phones, welcome to the drama... it's pathetic.
"It shows benchmark apps are no different than a random number generator...", false, I posted some Antutu scores in the benchmark thread (testing i/o scheduler) and I can say you I have accurate results (just keep in mind I was testing different i/o schedulers so the overall score varies a little) in 35 800-36100 range, nothing with 2/4 000 points difference. I can show you accurate results in Antutu with always the same settings like 36 000-36 100 range..., is it a random number generator? No, I don't think... You will always have a little variation, if it's a variation of 5 000 points then something is wrong (thermal throttling mostly, an app auto update, who knows?).
Things to retain: detail your scores, explain your setup and yes don't get the result as a condition on how your phone runs in day to day use, that being said I don't know where is there a problem with benchs on phone... and sometimes fun is nice...
Ok, end, to the OP it's probably due to thermal throttling, but you give very little information... so hard to say exactly but it seems you ran Antutu one after another?
You need to let your phone cool down between each run...
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I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.
bhavinshah_321 said:
I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.
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Please no. You should keep yourself from doing that. Your device works fine.
Benchmark scores doesnt really scale well on day to day usage I guarantee that.
The main issue with low score in benchmark is DEVICE Temperature. The more heat it gets the lower the score.
Let me clear this thing up to you
You said that your device is not slowing down but got low scores in benchmark, that's because your normal usage of device doesnt push your hardware to its limits therefore you dont feel like it is crawling.
Benchmarking is different. It generally juices up your phone to its full capacity but thermal throttling comes into play, it is a safe-fail feature on device to prevent chips from getting fried. Its doing it by lowering the CPU/GPU clockspeed, the lower the speed, the lower the score you get.
But if you're desperate enough, you may achieve this thru cooling it first, mine gets 5.3k+ on multiscore at 23-25 airconditioned room. 4.5k average on room temperature, and a much lower score of 3K when I run it multiple times.
Oh okay. This is nothing to worry about right? Coz I read in one of the xda forums that this is coz there are some faulty units out there. And I voided my warranty with Unikernel. It was worth it. RAM issues and all.
Keeping it in a AC room I achieved scores beyond 5k.
See why worry if your device doesnt fail you at all hehe.
I dont know about you guys who keeps on relying with benchmark scores?
Live up with your device people. Just settle down and enjoy using it.
Haha yeah. Honestly if it wasn't for Unikernel I'd be pretty disappointed with this device. All lag and stutters gone and finally smooth scrolling. OK totally off topic questions.. Apparently this kernel has something called LED Fade. And I don't know how to make it work. Any help? My notification LED is still the same.