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[Q] Have you gotten the OTA notification yet?

Seen some people on HTC's facebook page had posted they had received a message from AT&T about the update. Just wondering if they're going to do this by market area or by phone IMEI order.
Have you received a notification yet?

I heard they're doing it it by 10000th.
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Try the RUU posted by marsdta. That is exactly what they will push out. I loaded it 2 days ago and couldn't be happier.
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Or do it manually.
http://dl4.htc.com/RUU_Ace_Gingerbr...60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe

ZeroRilix said:
Try the RUU posted by marsdta. That is exactly what they will push out. I loaded it 2 days ago and couldn't be happier.
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I'm a noob. I have unlocked phone. Can I use this methord to update my unrooted phone to get GB. Can I loose unlock? Pls can u post the link to the RUU. Is it contain the crappy at&t apps. Thanks in advance.

warunamail said:
I'm a noob. I have unlocked phone. Can I use this methord to update my unrooted phone to get GB. Can I loose unlock? Pls can u post the link to the RUU. Is it contain the crappy at&t apps. Thanks in advance.
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If you update with the ruu above, you will lose s-off and you will be unrooted. The ruu above is the gingerbread update so all the at&t apps will be there
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trell959 said:
If you update with the ruu above, you will lose s-off and you will be unrooted. The ruu above is the gingerbread update so all the at&t apps will be there
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Not true as far as I know. I haven't flashed the latest RUU raw, but typically you retain S-OFF through a RUU flash. If you used gfree to get radio S-OFF (all the common rooting methods used gfree), then you need gfree to restore S-ON.
This is, in fact, a common issue when users need to send their phones back for warranty. It is tough to get it back to S-ON to make sure that the warranty center doesn't declare its warranty void.

I just checked my HTC wifi update link and it said I can update. I'm in Dallas, TX.

Still waiting, two Inspires on the account, one purchased on release day, second a couple months later. Been checking manually too. I want to try the OTA instead of downloading the RUU to see if the OTA update wipes all data. I don't care about mine, done enough data back-up and wipes on past phones, and all my stuff is Google account anyway. love that automatic recovery of apps and data is on SD card. Just want to cover my butt when the wife says "I'm doing the update" and I know she want lose her data.

00ChevyScott said:
I just checked my HTC wifi update link and it said I can update. I'm in Dallas, TX.
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Saw your post and decided to check mine. Said I have an update available. downloading now.
I am in Houston

Papa Luigi said:
Still waiting, two Inspires on the account, one purchased on release day, second a couple months later. Been checking manually too. I want to try the OTA instead of downloading the RUU to see if the OTA update wipes all data. I don't care about mine, done enough data back-up and wipes on past phones, and all my stuff is Google account anyway. love that automatic recovery of apps and data is on SD card. Just want to cover my butt when the wife says "I'm doing the update" and I know she want lose her data.
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The OTA update did not whipe my phone. Still had text messages even.

No update notice on mine...

me too, no notice yet. Does ATT send a text message to notify you that you can update?

Anyone know if you can flash the official update from htc using htc sync over custom rom?
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jdwilson said:
me too, no notice yet. Does ATT send a text message to notify you that you can update?
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I was told HTC/at&t will send out a text message informing you that an update is available, quoting the at&t tech rep I spoke with under an hour ago
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For those who have updated and have previously sideloaded apps: Do they still work? Can you sideload without The Sideload Wonder Machine now? Can you download and install from the Amazon App store?

Saikotic said:
For those who have updated and have previously sideloaded apps: Do they still work? Can you sideload without The Sideload Wonder Machine now? Can you download and install from the Amazon App store?
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I can't speak for the OTA, but the RUU adds the "Unknown Sources" option. I immediately installed Swype.

Live in Sacramento, CA market. Manually checked HTC wifi updates this morning and OTA update was available. 105+ MB download, installation ran 10-15 minutes, two self-reboots. Checked my wife's Inspire which was purchased much later (which I assume would mean a spread in serial numbers) and OTA is available for her phone two.
No issues so far except Sense is trying to sync all accounts and my Picassa Web Albums are extensive. I received one sms this morning and sent one without any issues as reported in other threads concerning this update, but I use GO SMS instead of stock app. so far so good.

Don't do the update unless you want your text messages to only show numbers instead of contact names. Wishing I never did the update now.

Racing666 said:
Don't do the update unless you want your text messages to only show numbers instead of contact names. Wishing I never did the update now.
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This is only a prob for some and it seems to have to do with linking fb contacts.

[Q] will rooted devices receive att&t software updates?

hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.

There are no OTA updates as of yet. Those on 1.85 are on it because they ran the leaked RUU.

Unless you know what you're doing don't bother updating to .85 because you can lose all root/bootloader/CID to let you do as you please because theres no current exploit. Its also been reported by people [and me] that you get lower CPU benchmark scores via Quadrant for example, although a faster / snappier phone. A couple people have also said its more sluggish now for them but I believe thats based on what they have running [I use one home screen + no widgets].

thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?

chillsen said:
thank you very much. will an unlocked boot and s-off phone still receive updates as well from AT&T both software and android updates?
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We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.

iElvis said:
We won't know for sure what will happen until AT&T releases it.
Best practice is to not OTA update until the devs have had a crack at it and we know what's what.
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thank you for that key info. will not be ota'ing until xda squad cracks it alllll!

Basically ... NO!
chillsen said:
hi guys simple question bc my software is still 1.73.502.1, all i've done is root my device so i can grab some apps and get titanium backup to uninstall some bloatware.
my question is there's lots of talk about 1.85 and i'm wondering why i haven't gotten the auto-update yet. can you confirm its bc at&t hasn't sent the 1.85 OTA update yet, and not bc i rooted my device thus negating any auto software updates? sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.

Is it safe to assume, that if people who flashed leaked ruu's don't get ota's then some of the devs will release ruu's of the newest ota's ?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

PeterHTC said:
Basically, once you root your phone, or change the CID, you will never again be able to get OTA up-dates. Sorry.
Peter
P.S. Then again, I could be wrong ... but that's what I've been led to believe.
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That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.

All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......

I know the feeling
patstock11 said:
All this info going around is very confusing for me...Basically i started on 1.73 (rooted)....ran 1.82 (rooted)....ran 1.85 (stuck).....anything i can do?.....i never unlocked any bootloader....i just liike the idea of root to get rid of bloat......
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Same with me - waiting for root for 1.85 - nothing much we can do at this point! Sounds like there are quite a few of us stuck in Limbo.
Just keep watching the forums and waiting for Root!
Mike

Not really ...
iElvis said:
That would make the existence of this app a bit hard to explain, then.
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Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter

PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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So you're suggesting that the root = no OTA is One X (or HTC) specific? Where did you hear that?
FWIW, I've got that app installed and it successfully saved a su copy.

PeterHTC said:
Not really. That app is not compatible with the ONE X.
Peter
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Sorry, but you are wrong. If you are rooted and nothing else, you CAN and will receive OTA updates, for most devices. I've heard many accounts of people being rooted and then updating OTA and losing root, and getting it back after a while after a new exploit was found. Now, if you use custom ROMs or anything, that changes things, but just rooting doesn't do anything. Think about it, you aren't changing the ROM or the way it connects to AT&T's servers. You are just exploiting a vulnerability and gaining root access. Now, AT&T may have found a way to detect root, but as far as I know they don't and with only a root, OTA updates can be installed. Although any post-root modification might screw that up.

[PSA] If you are on 1.73 and haven't rooted better do it now !!!!!!!

If you haven't rooted your 1.73 and protected it with RootKeeper you better do it now without delay of you will lose root forever (or till someone roots 1.85)
See This Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27124448#post27124448
Update: This post is now not relevant since 1.85 has been rooted.

galfert said:
If you haven't rooted your 1.73 and protected it with RootKeeper you better do it now without delay of you will lose root forever (or till someone roots 1.85)
See This Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27124448#post27124448
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You should also unlock that bootloader . Before it's to late
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this really sucks, i have a phoen that has light bleed and really bad battery life.
worried if i switch it now they will send one with the upgaded software,
maybe not though
ideas?

The_Zodiac said:
this really sucks, i have a phoen that has light bleed and really bad battery life.
worried if i switch it now they will send one with the upgaded software,
maybe not though
ideas?
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I just purchased my HOX yesterday and yes they now come with the 1.85 software preinstalled. So there is a great chance that your replacement will have the latest software or if you allow them to power it on they will immediate accept the update before they even hand you the phone. Maybe you can switch your own sim and tell them you want to set it up yourself and it may not have the update yet.
The same thing happened with the Evo when it first came out though. I had light leak and random resets and got a replacement that had the new Gingerbread update and no root method. Within a week they had found a way to downgrade to Froyo to attain root again so don't sweat it too much. Go get a good device!

jordant2 said:
I just purchased my HOX yesterday and yes they now come with the 1.85 software preinstalled. So there is a great chance that your replacement will have the latest software or if you allow them to power it on they will immediate accept the update before they even hand you the phone. Maybe you can switch your own sim and tell them you want to set it up yourself and it may not have the update yet.
The same thing happened with the Evo when it first came out though. I had light leak and random resets and got a replacement that had the new Gingerbread update and no root method. Within a week they had found a way to downgrade to Froyo to attain root again so don't sweat it too much. Go get a good device!
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I think the problem for us with replacements is that all the developers who are working on this phone already have theirs rooted and unlocked. There's no incentive or reason to find a way to root 1.85. I read somewhere that there is another update coming too.

SkizzMcNizz said:
I think the problem for us with replacements is that all the developers who are working on this phone already have theirs rooted and unlocked. There's no incentive or reason to find a way to root 1.85. I read somewhere that there is another update coming too.
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Well let's find these guys and break their **** so they all have to get replacements!

SkizzMcNizz said:
I think the problem for us with replacements is that all the developers who are working on this phone already have theirs rooted and unlocked. There's no incentive or reason to find a way to root 1.85. I read somewhere that there is another update coming too.
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There is a incentive. We donate money to them for their work for delivering good roms????? If there is no root, and more people are getting htc one x's, then there is basically no point to develop for the one x???? No profit lol

jordant2 said:
Well let's find these guys and break their **** so they all have to get replacements!
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That made me lol.
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I have not received any updates. See 1.85 similar post why.
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can't play my geetahr with out a geetahr string!

I'm still on 1.73 also but very confused to what I need to do to update,
first: unlock bootloader from htcdev?
second: root?
three: change CID with superCID?
four: relock with adb command
five: run the 1.85 update?
six: unlock bootloader again?
seven: root
eight: install CWM?
yes/no/maybe so?

rsnt said:
I'm still on 1.73 also but very confused to what I need to do to update
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These are the steps for the AT&T 1.73.
1) Root
2) Install RootKeeper (not needed...but 'eh can't hurt)
3) SuperCID
4) Titanium Backup - Optional if you want to save apps and app data
5) Upgrade to 1.85 via RUU - this will wipe everything except sd card
6) Unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com
7) Install Recovery
8) Root via Recovery

Can we please get peters guide stickied?
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can't play my geetahr with out a geetahr string!

I'm on 1.82 and I'm rooted, with SuperCID but I haven't unlocked yet because I'm hoping that we'll get S-OFF and I won't have to notify HTC of my "modding" activities. So, as long as I have SuperCID, I'll have the option of unlocking the downloader after the OTA upgrade, right? Assuming Rootkeeper failed or whatever...
Thanks!
Billy

freakboy13 said:
Can we please get peters guide stickied?
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I agree. Peter's guide is excellent. I did everything using Peter's guide following the Manual methods for everything (rather than One-Click methods). You learn more this way, less chance for errors. One-Click requires everthing to be perfect before running, and if things don't work you have no clue why nor how to troubleshoot.
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JeepFreak said:
I'm on 1.82 and I'm rooted, with SuperCID but I haven't unlocked yet because I'm hoping that we'll get S-OFF and I won't have to notify HTC of my "modding" activities. So, as long as I have SuperCID, I'll have the option of unlocking the downloader after the OTA upgrade, right? Assuming Rootkeeper failed or whatever...
Thanks!
Billy
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Don't totally quote me on this but I think you can only OTA from 1.73.
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One X Won't do OTA Update

I just got a One X back from an AT&T insurance claim two days ago, and naturally it came through with 4.0.3 on it. For whatever reason it refuses to do the OTA update for 4.0.4. I'll go to Settings -> AT&T Software Update -> Check for updates... it will check... and then just return me to the Check for updates screen. Anyone have any clues? I'm debating on just rooting it and installing a 4.0.4 ROM if I can't get it to work.

Don't run the ota, specially if you don't have unlocked bootloader. Even if you have unlocked bootloader flashing boot.img from fastboot is very very annoying. Just flash a custom rom and flash a radio if you want to.

It's a blessing it came with 4.0.3 on it. Root it and flash a ROM. Smile.

Everybody here will be against running the ota. Just root and flash the ROM of your choice, you will end up enjoying your phone so so so much more.

$5 says the previous owner has already read this thread

Well, that works for me! Now I have something constructive to do after work. Thanks guys!

Wish my phone had that issue. -.-

cupps said:
Wish my phone had that issue. -.-
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Me too cupps, me too.
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AlanVG said:
I just got a One X back from an AT&T insurance claim two days ago, and naturally it came through with 4.0.3 on it. For whatever reason it refuses to do the OTA update for 4.0.4. I'll go to Settings -> AT&T Software Update -> Check for updates... it will check... and then just return me to the Check for updates screen. Anyone have any clues? I'm debating on just rooting it and installing a 4.0.4 ROM if I can't get it to work.
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Same thing happens for me 2, till date I never got update notification . We are blessed.. I have unlocked and rooted
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If you remove these two apks it will remove ota option from settings.
HTC DM HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk com.htc.omadm.settings
HtcDM HtcOMADM_ATT.apk com.redbend.vdmc
Use Titanium Backup to uninstall them.

My microwave has this problem where I can't stick my head in and turn it on at the same time. Is there any way for me to trick the door sensor to let me do that?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA Premium HD. In between Force Clo...

I'll trade you my Phone with the OTA Bone stock for yours haha

AlanVG said:
I just got a One X back from an AT&T insurance claim two days ago, and naturally it came through with 4.0.3 on it. For whatever reason it refuses to do the OTA update for 4.0.4. I'll go to Settings -> AT&T Software Update -> Check for updates... it will check... and then just return me to the Check for updates screen. Anyone have any clues? I'm debating on just rooting it and installing a 4.0.4 ROM if I can't get it to work.
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Mine does that too; it'll check for updates, then go right back to the "Check for Update" screen. So I'm gathering that this means I can use the 1.85 root exploit that uses the "Check for Update" app?

OTA after Root

I was wondering if anyone found a way to take ota after rooting. I have always had rooted devices and always ended up on custom roms. For now I would like to stay on the official rom and debloat a bit. Any ideas?

Pretty sure you can just flash back to stock and take ota, then re root. You normally need stock recovery to take ota, and be unrooted
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I can't believe i didnt think of that after I did the same thing with the S4. Thx for shining some light into my clouded mind lol

Root
I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?

roadrunnrr said:
I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I tried this and update still wouldn't let me download the OTA.

Unless someone comes out with a way to revert the knox flag (which is said to be a perm flag) it won't ever be possible to be true factory again as all OTA's will now check for the tamper.
I think someone mentioned though you can manually install it, just the downloader/OTA wouldn't work.
If manually still wasn't possible I'm sure someone could remove the check from the update and you still get it that way but officially through Samsung you currently are probably stuck.
Ideally someone finds a way to reset the so called, perma flag.
If not the alternative might be finding a way to root the phone without flagging it, but in those cases it won't help those already flagged.
I know on HTC they had a similar type of flag, though didn't use it to check for update status. They flagged as Tampered or Re-locked for example.
However after some time we found how to reset those in some magical hidden area to blind write too (not talking about those that cheated to hide it via bootloader image edits)
At this point it's a wait and see game...
I hope someone finds fast though, I am stock and really want to get this bloat off my phone lol

I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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roadrunnrr said:
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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When I tried this the update check still failed stating that I had a custom ROM.

Just checked for updates and it went through
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roadrunnrr said:
Just checked for updates and it went through
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Were you rooted then un-rooted?? Can you post the OTA file from your cache??

Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it. Let me know where I can find the OTA and I'll post it. But I'm unrooted now so I don't know if it will work
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Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it.
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Nice, Otherwise seems like a bad strategy on Samsung's part if they don't allow people who unroot and odin back to stock to take OTA's.. Why would a manufacture not want to offer a path back to stock for security updates and the chance to get a user back on a bloated rom full of there paid ad apps. Each time users do this there is a small percentage that won't either be able to re-root due to updates stopping the root method or just out of hassle. I understand the warranty flag but not why you wouldn't offer a path back to stock unless they are just being short sighted in an attempt to penalize people who root which won't have much effect..

I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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roadrunnrr said:
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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So root!!

Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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I can't seem to do it. Once I rooted and tripped the Knox flag bit the Update check won't let me download. But the error message says that I can still download and install updates using Kies.
I just fixed it. The problem is not the Knox flag but rather the fact that Custom was showing in Download mode instead of Official. I had to flash twice without my SDcard inserted to get to Official. Once I got to Official the update started to download.

rooted?
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Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.

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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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Patience.. I guess..
dk2463 said:
but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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I gotta agree.. Most of my previous device OTA's were always dumped within hours of release really surprised this hasn't been yet. This is my first Samsung phone and I have liked the device but kinda disappointed in the XDA turnout so far. I am always appreciative of those who are here but I just thought with how popular the Galaxy line was there would be more dev support from day 1 but there hasn't been much so far. I know it's early and being CDMA/Sprint really limits us but seems like all my previous HTC devices on Sprint and the current M8 are getting way more action.. Oh well, but sure makes a jump to T-Mobile for the new Oneplus One Cyanogen phone sound tempting haha..
And thanks again to all those who are here and contributing!!!