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ATT launching LTE Samsung Galaxy S II

Looks like we'll be loosing some more Captivate users next week. Between these two phones it's going to be a tough call on which one to pick up.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/31/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-lte-skyrocket-landing-on-att-november-6th-for-250/

Also looks like att is going to see quite a few returned s2's for the lte version.

hilarity ensues

Well, it put more refurbed s2's out there. Makes it better if you have an upgrade coming up.

Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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Looks like I know what my next phone (and Christmas present...to myself....) is going to be...
HTC VIVID, here I come!
EDIT: Still wish I could switch to Verizon... At least they have LTE where I live, while ATT doesn't even have universal 3G coverage here.

Stevenrogers_420 said:
Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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While i'm just guessing, i'm thinking it will haves the same processor as the TMo version of the S2(ever which one that may be) because of the screen size.

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Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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Looks like its the Exynos 4212, but I haven't seen any articles specifically confirming this.

Unless you live on Mars, At&T doesn't have LTE yet. I jumped ship to Verizon and they don't have it it all markets yet either. Why bother?

cappysw10 said:
Unless you live on Mars, At&T doesn't have LTE yet. I jumped ship to Verizon and they don't have it it all markets yet either. Why bother?
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I live in San Antonio, we've got LTE here. Oh wait.....this might actually be Mars.

Anyone heard what the chipset is on the Vivid yet? While the 1.5 GHz Exynos is appealing; I don't think I can take it being on a Samsung phone anymore. I'm thinking I'd rather have the 1.2 GHz Vivid so I can jump to HTC.

Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.

Isure wish it was the Galaxy S II HD LTE instead. Same specs but with the 4.65 display instead.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/

sola fide said:
Anyone heard what the chipset is on the Vivid yet? While the 1.5 GHz Exynos is appealing; I don't think I can take it being on a Samsung phone anymore. I'm thinking I'd rather have the 1.2 GHz Vivid so I can jump to HTC.
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All I know is that it's a dual core.
I'm in very much the same boat as you; although the mod community can make the Captivate better than crap, one's got to admit that staying on Samsung stock would be 100% unbearable.
On the other hand, my close friend has an Inspire 4G, which I have borrowed for an extended period of time now; that's been a dream to use, be it Sense 2 or Sense 3.
Bowsa2511 said:
Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
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Don't forget that these are not the first LTE phones anymore... Verizon has released plenty of them from the same manufacturers, and these are almost a full hardware "generation" removed from the Thunderbolt Desire HD and the Droid Charge already.

This thing has a Qualcomm processor and the same resolution as the sgs2, once again ....both downgrades.
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tylerdurdin said:
This thing has a Qualcomm processor and the same resolution as the sgs2, once again ....both downgrades.
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The proc type has not been verified. If its an Exynos it'll be faster than sh!t sliding off a shovel!
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Bowsa2511 said:
Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
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If upgrading right now, why get the SGSII instead of a Skyrocket or Vivid?
I'm debating which as well. I'm just worried about the SGSII dev support being split between the two (if hardware is different) or there not being much dev support over with the Vivid.

For myself, my phone is a benefit from my work. Which means I should probably stay on the stock ROM since they are paying for it. Not only that, but if something goes wrong during a flash and I mess up my phone I'll be in some trouble at work. Since that leaves me on Samsung's horrible upgrade cycle I'm very inclined to jump ship.
Even though these are new LTE phones for ATT I still believe it's worth it to consider them over the non LTE SGSII. If I'm going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years I would rather have LTE. Since I live in a LTE market it's even more of a draw. If anything, considering the HTC just to get away from Samsung.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to wait a month and see what the reviews are from other XDA members. If the battery life is completely horrible maybe just wait it out. Also my wife is due an update in December. If I do jump and don't like it I could always hand her down whatever I get and pick up something new when we renew her contract.

Regular SGS II is better.
Also be warned that a 4.5 inch screen is unusable.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Regular SGS II is better.
Also be warned that a 4.5 inch screen is unusable.
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Mikey has small fingers so unusable for him lol
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Galaxy S II Skyrocket

Has anybody seen the unboxing of this phone it is basically the same exact phone as ours only going to att.... Just thought it was a little weird with the whole tmo att thing thats going on
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no, it's radio is different
it runs on LTE, not on HSPA+

Pretty lame, att gets 2 sgs2's.
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Yeah basically the same thing, hopefully we can take things from this phone.
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I like the 4g iconicon
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mikeb85 said:
I like the 4g iconicon
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agree the way i see it's like
Nexus S + Nexus S 4G
same phone, 2 different radio

Got mine
Got it now just need need a forum from XDA.

Me too Looking for the idiots guide to rooting and unlocking

Also waiting for Skyrocket section

AllGamer said:
no, it's radio is different
it runs on LTE, not on HSPA+
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Actually it will run on both.

I am hoping someone will try the TM 989 root method. I am hopeful it will work but dont want to be the guinea pig.

Well I picked one up on an upgrade, I wanted the Vivid, but the AMOLED screens are just to nice, I have 30 days anyhow. According to the map I should be in LTE but near the edge, doesn't seem like I'm getting LTE though.
BTW is there a way to turn off LTE if you want?
I also notice that my old Captivate screen seems brighter though.

should i wait for the galaxy nexus hoping that it will come to at&t or should i just get the skyrocket?

Zytryx said:
Well I picked one up on an upgrade, I wanted the Vivid, but the AMOLED screens are just to nice,
BTW is there a way to turn off LTE if you want?
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Ditto. I went with an open mind to both, used both for a while, the Samsung screen wins hands down. You can say all you want about resolution or DPI Specs, but when you see the 2 phones side by side it is not even a comparison, let alone if you compare sunlight/brightness.
I believe there is a way to turn off LTE but I haven't figured it out yet. In some screenshots (posted somewhere on XDA) I saw a menu that had 3g/HSUPA/LTE and then an option for just 3g/HSUPA+ with no LTE. I can't find that menu though .
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mjmonsada said:
should i wait for the galaxy nexus hoping that it will come to at&t or should i just get the skyrocket?
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No one can answer that for you. How long are you willing to wait? The Nexus is an unknown for AT&T. It hasn't even been comfirmed that it IS coming, let alone a release date. Speculation says yes, there is a GSM model, but that doesn't mean it will come or when. I wasn't willing to wait. If it comes I will just sell my Skyrocket and buy the Nexus.

crawlgsx said:
Ditto. I went with an open mind to both, used both for a while, the Samsung screen wins hands down. You can say all you want about resolution or DPI Specs, but when you see the 2 phones side by side it is not even a comparison, let alone if you compare sunlight/brightness. .
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Absolutely 100% agree. I don't even like the higher resolution screen because the fonts and icons are smaller. Reminds me of my old 3.2" phone with more space for tiny icons. Of course my 64yr old eyes aren't as good as they used to be either.
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mjmonsada said:
should i wait for the galaxy nexus hoping that it will come to at&t or should i just get the skyrocket?
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Absolutely! .....

crawlgsx said:
Ditto. I went with an open mind to both, used both for a while, the Samsung screen wins hands down. You can say all you want about resolution or DPI Specs, but when you see the 2 phones side by side it is not even a comparison, let alone if you compare sunlight/brightness.
I believe there is a way to turn off LTE but I haven't figured it out yet. In some screenshots (posted somewhere on XDA) I saw a menu that had 3g/HSUPA/LTE and then an option for just 3g/HSUPA+ with no LTE. I can't find that menu though .
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No one can answer that for you. How long are you willing to wait? The Nexus is an unknown for AT&T. It hasn't even been comfirmed that it IS coming, let alone a release date. Speculation says yes, there is a GSM model, but that doesn't mean it will come or when. I wasn't willing to wait. If it comes I will just sell my Skyrocket and buy the Nexus.
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ATT is not the same as Verizon LTE. The LTE does not eat the battery in my experience so far. I find it the same as my SG2 that I exchanged.
But I am sure when we get ROOT and some ROM's there will be a toggle.

If I had the extra Money I would have gotten this but still the HTC Vivid is nice. Not sure if the Samsung has built in FM Radio but the HTC Does. Regardless though both are nice I just couldn't afford the difference in price. That and I also remembered when I was looking at the devices that AMOLED Has a degradation Issue.

Earthsdog said:
Got it now just need need a forum from XDA.
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Yeah, need a forum to get away from the AT&T Galaxy S II forum hate of the Skyrocket. I've had better network speeds and very good benchmarks myself. Now I need root!
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tejones36 said:
Yeah, need a forum to get away from the AT&T Galaxy S II forum hate of the Skyrocket. I've had better network speeds and very good benchmarks myself. Now I need root!
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How do you like the Skyrocket as opposed to the SGSII?
I went to the ATT store today to check out the Vivid and Skyrocket (they don't have the SGSII anymore on display). The Vivid was big, heavy and bland colors to me. But the phone looks so nice.
The Skyrocket just looked big and the dev support is a question mark as it's veers off the path of the Internations SGSII.
I ended up jumping on a SGSII from BB for $99. And hopefully my Reward Zone points come through for the phone which would be enough for a $100 gift card

qwertyaas said:
How do you like the Skyrocket as opposed to the SGSII?
I went to the ATT store today to check out the Vivid and Skyrocket (they don't have the SGSII anymore on display). The Vivid was big, heavy and bland colors to me. But the phone looks so nice.
The Skyrocket just looked big and the dev support is a question mark as it's veers off the path of the Internations SGSII.
I ended up jumping on a SGSII from BB for $99. And hopefully my Reward Zone points come through for the phone which would be enough for a $100 gift card
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I like it quite a bit so far.
I did some benchmarks of my Galaxy S II (and saw some on the Skyrocket on YouTube, which pretty much sold me.) I like the larger screen and form factor. I don't notice any of the pixellation people were talking about, and the bigger screen for me means more readability. The Quadrant benchmarks were just odd when I started playing with them myself. They seemed to run from 2900 up to 3900, but the FPS was definitely lower than the OG while watching the tests run. I'm not into FPS style of gaming on a mobile phone personally - but the Need For Speed (crippleware) on the phone ran incredibly smoothly. The AnTuTu benchmark outperformed the (stock clock) OG, but the odd thing is it took a couple of warm-up trials before getting the best set of numbers. It will only be a matter of time until we have an overclock kernel.
Network speeds are much higher, even though I don't live in an LTE area. On the OG I was limited to 2.4 Mbps speeds - but in the exact same spot, I'm getting 5.6 Mbps speeds on the Skyrocket. Obviously if you live in an LTE area the difference is much higher, but the improved network boost here meant much more to me than a lower OpenGL framerate. This was testing with Entropy's 11/3 daily driver as well, which optimized the read buffers. The stock kernel for me was even slower.
I don't notice any of the screen stuttering that others have mentioned.
I consider it an upgrade personally.

Stay or Go with the SkyRocket lack of Dev Support

So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.

Earthsdog said:
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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The sprint and at&t og sgs2 are the most similiar to the International one.
The ****rocket and tmo sgs2 are the mutated ones.
I was planning to get a ****rocket, but after reading about the LTE throttling, bad ppi, and snapdragon chipset, I decided to sell my og SGSII and go with the Note.
Lets just say, once you use the note, you will not be able to use small phones anymore.
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xAnimal5 said:
The sprint and at&t og sgs2 are the most similiar to the International one.
The ****rocket and tmo sgs2 are the mutated ones.
I was planning to get a ****rocket, but after reading about the LTE throttling, bad ppi, and snapdragon chipset, I decided to sell my og SGSII and go with the Note.
Lets just say, once you use the note, you will not be able to use small phones anymore.
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i would agree, but the note is not LTE ready if you buy it overseas so you can keep it. once it hits the US with LTE i will buy it and will not look back.
for now i am very happy with the rocket, i dont notice this lag in videos or ****rocket talk. i had the sgs2 for a week and was not blown away buy any means in the comparison. do what you will - ITS YOUR phone and you have to live with it. i plan on upgrading to either the nexus if it hits or the Note once it hits anyway so the rocket is just a short stop for 4 months or so till one of thoes drops anyway.

Quadcores are just around the corner. Its pointless upgrading to a dual core. I will gladly keep my skyrocket until i pick up my quadcore sammy device. 4 cores mabye 2 gigs ram and a big super amoled with lte is what im waiting for

silver03wrx said:
Quadcores are just around the corner. Its pointless upgrading to a dual core. I will gladly keep my skyrocket until i pick up my quadcore sammy device. 4 cores mabye 2 gigs ram and a big super amoled with lte is what im waiting for
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+1.............

Only time will tell as far as the development goes. I don't have a skyrocket cause no lte for me. Also now reading about the throttling going on I'm not sure if I care about lte anymore. Now another question for all you lte guys is who is going to return the skyrocket for the lg nitro hd lte coming out in about a week.
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nuwayman said:
Only time will tell as far as the development goes. I don't have a skyrocket cause no lte for me. Also now reading about the throttling going on I'm not sure if I care about lte anymore. Now another question for all you lte guys is who is going to return the skyrocket for the lg nitro hd lte coming out in about a week.
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if its not samsung, im not switching<<<
and it seems ilke it has the same specs as the skyrocket less the screen.

Earthsdog said:
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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My quad score on here (stock) is way better than my infuse. Idc about lte. My phone is always connected to wifi so its whatever. Phones take awhile to get custom roms. Give it some time to settle
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the2rrell said:
if its not samsung, im not switching<<<
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+100...... ive owned htc hero. Htc evo shift.htc evo. Lg g2x. Htc mytouch 4g. Sammy epic. Sammy epic 4g touch. Sammy sgs2. Sammy sgs2 skyrockrt. Sammy moment.. Moto atrix. Kyocera echo.. and definately sammy is much better then moto or htc or lg or kyocera.

Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...

justanothernoob said:
Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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ordered from at&t?
is it available for at&t?
Only thing I don't like is the Nexus has no expandable storage.

justanothernoob said:
Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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Nexus Prime or Original Nexus? If not prime then I see it as a downgrade instead of an upgrade.
Note is on my radar and that is one of the reason why I switched to blood sucking AT&T from Tmobile....... just so that I can use International phones.

Mortem Tuam said:
ordered from at&t?
is it available for at&t?
Only thing I don't like is the Nexus has no expandable storage.
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The "Galaxy Nexus".
Not the Nexus One or the Nexus S. I ordered it from Expansys-usa should be here sometime this week. Nexus Prime was just a name they used when the phone was being developed. Cost me $729.99 with a -$20 coupon code for the site. The no SD card thing kinda bummed me out and thats originally why I bought the SR over it but after using google music during beta and now that its out and free. I have realized that 16gb will be enough storage for me since I can stream all of my music through google music. The SR was nice but I really want that stock android experience and not to have to wait for updates from AT&T or samsung. I got burnt out on waiting when using the Infuse. How many times did AT&T promise Gingerbread for the infuse...
If anyone wants the coupon code for Expansys usa its: 20OFFLS

Skyrocket is a nice device and we'll start seeing roms for it soon. Just give it a month or so.

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Skyrocket is a nice device and we'll start seeing roms for it soon. Just give it a month or so.
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I think so too, if all I was worried about was ROMs I would of kept my Nexus S but I love the LTE speeds......
I can wait,

Yeah LTE speeds are nice. But where I live there is no LTE. So The Galaxy Nexus was the right choice for me. Don't get me wrong the SR was a very nice device but I think i'm gonna like my Nexus better.

the2rrell said:
i would agree, but the note is not LTE ready if you buy it overseas so you can keep it. once it hits the US with LTE i will buy it and will not look back.
for now i am very happy with the rocket, i dont notice this lag in videos or ****rocket talk. i had the sgs2 for a week and was not blown away buy any means in the comparison. do what you will - ITS YOUR phone and you have to live with it. i plan on upgrading to either the nexus if it hits or the Note once it hits anyway so the rocket is just a short stop for 4 months or so till one of thoes drops anyway.
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Exactly..I tried the SGS2 orig because of this Exynos talk..well it was slower than the Skyrocket. In terms of ROM, I have it working complete with 14 toggle mod, camera hack to use power button to click, 3200-3500+ quadrant (if it means anything really) without any special kernels no overclocking etc, no random reboots, no locks to freeze and take out battery etc., NO! SODs, no video lags (whatever folks talk of..have downloaded many videos and play them directly), no MMS issue at all !...Vis Voicemail etc all work..even modified the dialer so that have the Tmob type dialer with extra button for voicemail along side the button for the phone on one side and the messaging button on the other side.
only miss in-dialer video chat (3G direct..not talking of Google talk) that is there in I9000 (orig SGS not SGS2) ROMs and the Infuse (modified dialer there too for direct video chat)..the ROM for the Sky and the T989 do not support this (maybe trying to move folks to Google Talk..do not need that)..neither does the orig
SGS2 anyway
Even have a TMob rom set up for this device with all the above except Vis Vmail..even fixed in-call volume using I727 library files..
wonder what folks are complaining about..do not care 4G LTE all that stuff..it is fast no matter what..
however .lost 70$ because of this Exynos nonsense (in my opinion)..35 restocking fee to return and 35 to change from Sky to org SGS2 back to Sky..my loss the hard way.

I am not sure why everyone is freaking out on throttling. The SR is a nice device and I have seen no problems with the chipset other than some graphics like the default homescreen image and the boot image being slower than normal. This is no different than when new GPUs come out and all the benchmark apps and drivers have to be updated/optimized for the new hardware. Throttling only comes into play IF you are on an UNLIMITED data plan and you hit the top 5% of all other users on an unlimited data plan. For me around here, the throttling SMS came in last month at at about 6.5GB of usage but I never was throttled after using about another 1GB.
The SR is a nice device that I plan on sticking with until the quads hit.
My only complaint with Samsung in general is their damn bootloader code. But then again the laughs will be on those GS II owners as well once they update. hehehe. That would be a mute point if carriers listened to customers and actually gave them what they want or actually use vs. trying to force things down our throats. In my opinion custom ROMs beat carrier ROMs for one main reason - flexibility. Those authors usually remove the crapola and add back features the carriers like to remove.

Ill never return mine unless it breaks. Phone is too nice

justanothernoob said:
The "Galaxy Nexus".
Not the Nexus One or the Nexus S. I ordered it from Expansys-usa should be here sometime this week. Nexus Prime was just a name they used when the phone was being developed. Cost me $729.99 with a -$20 coupon code for the site. The no SD card thing kinda bummed me out and thats originally why I bought the SR over it but after using google music during beta and now that its out and free. I have realized that 16gb will be enough storage for me since I can stream all of my music through google music. The SR was nice but I really want that stock android experience and not to have to wait for updates from AT&T or samsung. I got burnt out on waiting when using the Infuse. How many times did AT&T promise Gingerbread for the infuse...
If anyone wants the coupon code for Expansys usa its: 20OFFLS
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Personally, I find spending $749 vs. $0.01 for something very marginal a little over the top, to be honest. In fact, I would not even consider getting a phone locked to 3G speeds even a marginal gain considering that it does not have any storage expansion. I would regard this as a downgrade. But different strokes for different folks, I guess. Yes, it runs ICS but the Skyrocket would be running this in a few months. In addition, as this is not a phone supported by a major carrier, it would not sell into millions and it would not create the accessory and development support that carrier phones would definitely have.
Now, regarding Android 4.0 vs 2.6.6. ICS is nice but not that nice. It really would not affect much of the functionality of the phone. What does one want to do that cannot be accomplished well in 2.6.6? I cannot think of much. Wow, now you would get to customize the bottom row of the icons and have resizeable gadgets and few more goodies. You would be bored with this in a day or two. Not worth the hassle. I simply concentrate on the functionality that I need.
Now, what I need is good OS-based voice dialing. That is not available even on ICS.

New possible QWERTY successor

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-announces-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-qwerty-keyboard-and-all/
A lot of us here on XDA have been anticipating this phone's release. Turns out the specs are almost the same as our old MT4GS. Let your anger out here if you wish OR are some going for it anyways? Also, looks like Tmo USA is getting the Note 2. Are some gonna just hope on that instead? If any touch screen device can replace a QWERTY, its definitely the Note. Plenty of screen real estate for typing. What do you guys think?
UPDATE:
Seems like tmobile made a mistake. Surprise surprise!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-confirms-snapdragon-s4-chip-inside-galaxy-s-relay-4g/
Still lacks a decent camera (I know MP don't mean everything. Lens quality and image processor matter much more.), extra ram, etc.... I may wait for the Note 2, the alleged 5 Nexuseseses, blah blah blah before deciding for sure. I still am enjoying my DS especially since CM9 runs butter smooth and flawless now

I don't see any advantage on this other than having support from tmobile & has official ICS ROM. Also does this have FM Radio? I only hunt phones with qwerty keyboard and FM radio prebuilt

Riyal said:
I don't see any advantage on this other than having support from tmobile & has official ICS ROM. Also does this have FM Radio? I only hunt phones with qwerty keyboard and FM radio prebuilt
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I agree... guess I should have clarified in the op that the original guess/rumor was that this phone would have 720 HD 4" screen and a S4 processor. That's why I posted the release info cause it was such a downer plus a few of us had been waiting on confirmation here. I'm not sure if Samsung normally has FM radio though. I'm using stuff like Sirius XM/Pandora so I hardly touch that FM dial anymore. It seems like this is a lower mid range model instead of the SGSIII with a keyboard that it was rumored to be

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I agree... guess I should have clarified in the op that the original guess/rumor was that this phone would have 720 HD 4" screen and a S4 processor. That's why I posted the release info cause it was such a downer plus a few of us had been waiting on confirmation here. I'm not sure if Samsung normally has FM radio though. I'm using stuff like Sirius XM/Pandora so I hardly touch that FM dial anymore. It seems like this is a lower mid range model instead of the SGSIII with a keyboard that it was rumored to be
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galaxy S Series has FM Radios built into them that's why I asked.
difference in performance between s3 & s4 processors is just 15%. The 1GB RAM & 4inch display seems to be catchy but keeps me thinking if the 15% processing power + 250mb addin ram would convince me in spending another few hundred bucks?
The 4inch screen is a turn off for me I find 3.7 perfect already.
Also what about the camera?
And regarding NFC I don't find it very useful(at least in our country where most people are still stuck with no OS phones.
So... For me unless I render my phone unuseable or a new phone has something which would make a big difference compared to my current phone I guess I'll be sticking with my current one.

Riyal said:
galaxy S Series has FM Radios built into them that's why I asked.
difference in performance between s3 & s4 processors is just 15%. The 1GB RAM & 4inch display seems to be catchy but keeps me thinking if the 15% processing power + 250mb addin ram would convince me in spending another few hundred bucks?
The 4inch screen is a turn off for me I find 3.7 perfect already.
Also what about the camera?
And regarding NFC I don't find it very useful(at least in our country where most people are still stuck with no OS phones.
So... For me unless I render my phone unuseable or a new phone has something which would make a big difference compared to my current phone I guess I'll be sticking with my current one.
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Hehehhe! I hear ya... I was more interested in the S4's power saving/gpu improvement vs the cpu performance. I've heard that range from 15 to 30% I guess it just depends on each application, really... I think 4" is the perfect size for a qwerty. I'd might even like to see bigger lol! (Probably would a huge ass brick, right?) Yeah, I don't know much about Samsung (had no idea about the FM on the Galaxy models) but as long as HTC keeps the attitude that qwertys are dead... Samsung is my second choice, I guess. I'm still liking my DS for now. My contract is up in October and this was gonna be my upgrade. Oh well... I'll hang around for the next or pick up that Note 2. NFC hasn't really picked up anywhere even in the old USA. Well, maybe a few of the bigger cities use them more so... I don't know.

I might still want to jump ship to the Samsung slider.
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Since my MT4GS is less than 1 year old, I'm going to wait until the next Nexus debuts. I've decided that from now on I will only buy Nexus products. I'm sick of the bull**** from HTC and other manufacturers and their lame-ass excuses for not producing an update. HTC can suck my ***. I will miss Sense UI, though. I'm one of the few, it seems, that prefers how Sense works and looks.

I will probably getting the Note. Now that my phone got bricked about two months ago by the faulty recovery and all HTC has been doing of late is churning out excuses instead of making updates for this device.
I will shelve my brick so it works as a reminder that I shoudl never buy another HTC device again.

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I will probably getting the Note. Now that my phone got bricked about two months ago by the faulty recovery and all HTC has been doing of late is churning out excuses instead of making updates for this device.
I will shelve my brick so it works as a reminder that I shoudl never buy another HTC device again.
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Sorry man I have been so busy as of lately, ill pm you my address if you still wanna send it so we can get on HTC about fixing
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strapped365 said:
Sorry man I have been so busy as of lately, ill pm you my address if you still wanna send it so we can get on HTC about fixing
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Thanks for the PM. I understand. I am actually just disappointed in HTC for making devs jump through so many hurdles to get anything done on this device, and further frustrate them by not releasing source. The only reason why their sales are suffering is because they don't listen.
I have been reading up on the problem and looking through the forums to see what other devices used to fix this problem. And with Samsung it was simply restocking with odin or using heimdal tool.
I will definitely be sending it because I love its camera to bits. It really takes good photos. Once my friend put his OneX up against my MT4GS and it ended up taking better close ups than the OneX because it seemed to have a better auto focus.
I will be saving up for the first note to replace my G2(which has seen better days) if I manage to get this fixed.
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I'd say the Photon would be the qwerty to beat, but our camera sorta owns most, if not all, mobile devices right now.

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I'd say the Photon would be the qwerty to beat, but our camera sorta owns most, if not all, mobile devices right now.
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Unlocked bootloader +1
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This device is pretty epic. I can live with a 5mpx camera no problem. It's a really nice looking device. I've grown tired with Sense, and HTC in general. BUT Walmart is now selling the TMO version on GSII. It's off contract, and only 300 bucks. That's a deal.

update!
Hmmm... Seems like the specs are conflicting still. Check this out: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T699DABTMB-specs It clearly shows the MSM8260A as the processor type which is a S4. Confirm that here: http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/snapdragon However, David (tmonews editor) is still claiming that both his press releases (tmobile and samsung) show the device having the S3. Someone screwed up big time lol! I feel that only a S4 makes sense at time but I guess its still a mystery?!

I am very interested in this new keyboard Galaxy, hopefully an GalaxySIII variant with S4 or Tegra3 chipset.
two key reasons: the Doubleshot is a rare device and never sold outside USA, so here in the UK I'm living on luck in terms of support of UK/European 3G operators.
secondly: five row keyboard.
also hoping for good performance without battery compromise. I am actively using my DShot for about three hours a day (starting about 7:30am over breakfast, on the bus into work and back, and a while in the evening before bed at 11:30pm) and the battery is usually exhausted!

If you're still using the stock battery that's at least part of the problem. If you were to get an Anker or Mugen battery and run a debloated version of the stock ROM so you could keep your original camera and it's functions you'd really see a difference. I sure did.

Having a 5 row qwerty again sure would be nice.
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imo, the only reason why the DS didn't do so well is because HTC didn't release an international version.
Well people would have complained about the keyboard, but eventually would have gotten used to it.
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I don't know if this is relevant here but here are the views of the G2 owners on the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837559
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cybot_x1024 said:
imo, the only reason why the DS didn't do so well is because HTC didn't release an international version.
Well people would have complained about the keyboard, but eventually would have gotten used to it.
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I don't know if this is relevant here but here are the views of the G2 owners on the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837559
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Totally relevant! It's nice to see my old brothers in the G2 section lol! And I couldn't agree with ya more... this device would have been huge with the dual core processor qwerty and bad ass camera (that is STILL one the best around!)

It will be quite some time, before dev action pics up on that device (if ever). So jumping into that phone right now would be a bad idea, unless you want to dev.
It's been a little more than a year since the DS came out, and we now have many roms to choose from. So think of how long this will take
Does anyone know if the internals of this new phone are based on the internals of another Galaxy phone? That would make porting a lot easier and also speed up devving.
But by the looks of it, I am liking this phone design a lot. Has everything I need, including a trackpad. Now, as long as they keep the physical size down, I may consider getting one.

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It will be quite some time, before dev action pics up on that device (if ever). So jumping into that phone right now would be a bad idea, unless you want to dev.
It's been a little more than a year since the DS came out, and we now have many roms to choose from. So think of how long this will take
Does anyone know if the internals of this new phone are based on the internals of another Galaxy phone? That would make porting a lot easier and also speed up devving.
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The phone is not yet released so can't really say. But judging by the hardware specs. It looks like a SGS II.
Regarding development support... There's already SGS III which obviously is 1 fold greater than this device + relay 4g is also a tmobile exclusive. I don't see any samsung devs downgrading just to support this device(except maybe dedicated community devs like cyanogenmod etc.). For all I know the only persons which will be attracted on this device are keyboard enthusiasts like me. But I just got a mt4gs & relay 4g isn't that of a big difference with mt4gs anyways. So I'll pass on this phone for now. And if ever I decided to go samsung with qwerty I would rather choose samsung captivate glide instead. At least the specs are far more superior than relay 4g.
Tegra 2 = Cortex A9 Processor
Snapdragon S3 = Cortex A8 Processor
It's like a 1.5ghz celeron processor vs a 1ghz Pentium 4
And by the way Samsung captivate glide isn't even officially supported by cyanogenmod. So relay 4g being a much lower spec'd device do you think they'd get alot more support than captivate glide?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=4071
See what I mean? Captivate glide is also getting official ICS upgrade anyways.

Samsung Galaxy s4

What are your views on upcoming Samsung Galaxy S4 ?
Would it be a hit when Galaxy S3 and Note 2 were just launched?
What new are you expecting?

winappleworld said:
What are your views on upcoming Samsung Galaxy S4 ?
Would it be a hit when Galaxy S3 and Note 2 were just launched?
What new are you expecting?
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I'm expecting people not to make such threads!

I read apparently the s4 is more about software not so much about hardware. Yeah right more like more plastic and more profit.
I bought s1, s2, s3 paid enough for plastic but no more. Enough is enough. Look at htc now that's what I build quality, design.
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I'm expecting people not to make such threads!
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Lol

i'm watching it live
this phone is SUPER AMAZING !!!!!!!!! out of the box
can't wait to get my hand on one of them

After seeing the US version being reduced to a quad core instead of 8 cores. I may not get it. Why do they keep doing that with US phones? The rest of the world get the great ones, we get the lesser ones. Yes , yes, nothing uses all 8 cores but that's not the point. I want the option and frankly I'm tired of getting the second hand stuff.
World got quad core S3 and 1 gig ram
US got dual core S3 and 2 gig ram
The World phone still outperformed the US version.
Also, I'm on Verizon so a regular gsm phone won't work for me.

AW: Samsung Galaxy s4
The Galaxy s 4 is the best phone from Samsung. I love it.
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If you guys say it's a minor upgrade from the s3 you're stupid. The specs on the international are unreal, what else could possibly be better atm. The us version on the other hand, with the pathetic s600 SoC...
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Minor Upgrade
I personally do think it wasn't a very exciting upgrade. In regards to what MultiLockOn said, I won't be even contemplating purchasing the International version as it's far too expensive. Therefore, I look at the US version, and of course it got bumped down in specs...

Still not a fan of the home button
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Not a fan of the home button, its so.... Gingerbread.
Not a fan of Plastic anymore.
Other phones have caught up, so now we no longer need to go to Samsung to get the best hardware.
HTC One for me it will be.

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Not a fan of the home button, its so.... Gingerbread.
Not a fan of Plastic anymore.
Other phones have caught up, so now we no longer need to go to Samsung to get the best hardware.
HTC One for me it will be.
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Hardware is why I choose a device. I don't like AT&T at all but they were miles ahead of everyone back in the day with the removable Subscriber Identification Module. I'm ticked off about shrinking the size of the SIM chip to render useless, all of the old flip phones I could normally light up.
Is not HTC built like an Iphone? If the battery is hardwired and unremovable, I'm out. Ditto for no expandable memory slot, no deal.