Radio Question. - HTC Inspire 4G

I updated my radio without updating my RIL and was wondering which one should I use. Not even sure if I'm running the right radio atm but its from the DHD forum and I have the inspire. I'm running a 2.3.5 sense base with 3.5/3.0. I don't know which combo I should be using. Can anyone point me in right direction.
New radio (need ril)
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Old radio

Question: If you are unsure of what you need, why are you messing with the radio? It is not a simple thing of updating it. There are changes made to it but not guaranteed to be better, in many cases it can make it worse. Radio is subjective and everyone has different results, tread carefully.
Warning out of the way, head over to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324
it has radios and listed rils with them, typically the rom you download will list what the dev used when testing the rom.

I'm aware what a radio does and what purpose it serves. I came from sprint devices where we use PRL's with radios which is probably the cdma equivalent to gsm's RIL's. I was just unsure of which RIL goes along with my radio. And the process is actually easy through bootloader nothing I need to be scared about. Just asking a simple question, thanks for the link dude...

kennypow3rs said:
I'm aware what a radio does and what purpose it serves. I came from sprint devices where we use PRL's with radios which is probably the cdma equivalent to gsm's RIL's. I was just unsure of which RIL goes along with my radio. And the process is actually easy through bootloader nothing I need to be scared about. Just asking a simple question, thanks for the link dude...
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The RIL that goes with 26.14.04.28_M is:
HTC-RIL 2.2.0201HM
Here it is:
http://db.tt/Fi3lSPWE
When and if you move to ICS, the only RIL I know of that works for sure is:
HTC-RIL 2.2.0018G
but that one comes "baked-in" to every ICS ROM I've tried.

gbeardmore said:
The RIL that goes with 26.14.04.28_M is:
HTC-RIL 2.2.0201HM
Here it is:
http://db.tt/Fi3lSPWE
When and if you move to ICS, the only RIL I know of that works for sure is:
HTC-RIL 2.2.0018G
but that one comes "baked-in" to every ICS ROM I've tried.
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Thanks man.

killerkali said:
*****MOD EDIT*****
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Killerkali, I think that u are way out of line. What Darunion says is right, flashing radios is a delicate thing. If you miss something you might end up with a brick. It is always the user call, but is the best advice to tell him to read and learn before messing up with dangerous things such as radios.
Besides, Darunion has pointed him in the right direction and is one the most active users in this forums, wich means that he is experienced and his pieces of advice are reliable.
I can not say the same about you. You should regret the post and apologize...just to keep the spirit of these forums, that is to share knowledge and point noobs in the right direction. :good:

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[Q] What is the best radio for the Inspire 4g

I was wondering what is the best radio for our Inspire 4g's? I am not sure myself, and I haven't been able to find much if the inspire 4g is cross compatible with the Desire HD besides, roms and kernels. I am wondering mainly if I can install the radio 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M from the desire HD forum. I am not sure if it compatible or had any side effects / negative reprecussions.
You'll find that some say that a m2 or the m3 radio give you better battery life but I think that might be a placebo effect. I have the m3 which i have no problems with but I am saying that my good battery life goes towards the CM7 build 28! The radio may have something to do with it. If it does, it's very small if any.
moosefist said:
I was wondering what is the best radio for our Inspire 4g's? I am not sure myself, and I haven't been able to find much if the inspire 4g is cross compatible with the Desire HD besides, roms and kernels. I am wondering mainly if I can install the radio 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M from the desire HD forum. I am not sure if it compatible or had any side effects / negative reprecussions.
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That is the leaked gingerbread radio? I am running Coredroid v3.2 with leedroid kernel v2.2.8. I flashed that radio just experimenting. For me I had amazing signal better then the m2 and m3, but my battery life drained away like it was cool. Not doing anything on my phone (full charge no wifi no bluetooth, just data). Cell standby used about 20% of my battery in about 3 hours. With the m2 and m3 my cell stand by is around 11% after 15 hours.
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I use 26.06.04.14_M on Android Revolution 3.2 and I can't complain. Before that, I used the radio from attn1's root kit and had shotty reception. Since the upgrade, I've had full service. Don't let bars lie to you though. Check your signal strength in the "about phone" section of the settings menu. Watch the dB's - the close to 0, the better.
Going to flash 26.06.04.14_M as recommended in the revolution thread. How do you find battery life on it cblock? I'm very happy with the battery life on the stock radio that came loaded from at&t but I've dropped a few calls today which isn't normally a problem for me, hoping for a stronger signal from the new radio.
Side note, anyone know how to check what band the phone is running on, 850 or 1900?
What RADIO did you settle on and what result?
See post 1414 on this page. Hands down best radio I have used so far. I am in Florida if that really makes a difference. See pictures of GPS and Speeds. Not to mention the best rom IMHO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207&page=71
SNadler said:
See post 1414 on this page. Hands down best radio I have used so far. I am in Florida if that really makes a difference. See pictures of GPS and Speeds. Not to mention the best rom IMHO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207&page=71
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Where did you find the radio 12.41.60.19P_26.06.04.14_M?
mj0528 said:
Where did you find the radio 12.41.60.19P_26.06.04.14_M?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
mj0528 said:
Where did you find the radio 12.41.60.19P_26.06.04.14_M?
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Hey my bad... Forgot to check back
Battery life is fantastic, especially if you're running Gingerbread. (I'm on cm nightly 32)
Here's the radio:
http://xda.ckgaming.co.uk/db_mirror/Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M.zip
All I can say is do the homework on flashing radios!
Yeah that's the Generic Gingerbread Radio. I flashed it about six hours ago. I have two Inspire's, too. One stock Radio and one with that radio. Where the Stock Radio is getting -110dbi 11asu, this new one gets -93dbi 4asu. Same location.
Not sure what asu is, though. But I do understand the db measurement.
arajay said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
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He beat me
cblock214 said:
He beat me
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My bad. I was looking at that thread in another tab. Trying to get the best signal I can in Atlanta.
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help please....
I have an htc inspire 4g unlocked on t-mobile but sometimes the signal just desapears and comes back am wondering what radio would work better any help please...
Jeebus...guys I'm learning all this and having fun flashing new ROMS and trying to find one I can live with for more than a day
Other than my StreakDroid, I've flashed a few custom roms on my wife's captivate and now have the Inspire 4G and love it.
I keep reading ROM's that need Eng S-Off..with tutorials and guides. Then I read how dangerous it can be. I'm considering it and wasn't sure where else to ask this...but is it that risky?
Will the benefits be that much better by doing it? Can I get most custom ROMs to work with stock radio? I really want to do this, but damn, my wife's gonna kill me if I mess up another phone.
I just got my inspire today and rooted it and I'm running CM7 RC4 but flashed the radio listed in the forum but my upload speed still sucks at about 100, am I missing something
This is how I flash radios. works flawlessly. No need for eng-s off this way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
Here's the md5 checksum checker I use.
http://download.cnet.com/MD5-Checker/3000-2092_4-10410639.html?tag=mncol;1
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Just loaded that radio. Fairly easy process. Thanks for the link to it though made it easier to find lol.
dkotoric said:
I just got my inspire today and rooted it and I'm running CM7 RC4 but flashed the radio listed in the forum but my upload speed still sucks at about 100, am I missing something
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I can't get any high than 150 up, and I am running cm7 and this radio as well. I have tried 2 other radios and had same issue. I never tried a speediest after first rooting, so I have no idea if I ever got better uploads.
I am getting -83dBm in columbia SC running the same radio.

Latest Radio and RIL won't work...

So I'm running CM7 (S-OFF) and I upgraded to the latest radio 12.62.60.27P_26.13.04.19 M.zip and I then flashed the correlating RIL (HTC-RIL 2.2.0179HM (Aug 17 2011,15:24:58)) in CMW (and I remember to mount "system"). When I do this however, I get a X over my signal strength and when I go into Wireless & networks I see that "Airplane Mode" is enabled and is unable to be disabled (when I uncheck it it says "loading" or something but never changes). I basically have no signal... and RIL infos displayer shows this... only a RIL, no radio...
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When I flash an older RIL or just don't flash any RIL at all and leave CM7's default I have a signal and RIL displayer shows this...
I'm really at a loss for why that RIL won't work... I have a dual APN setting and a GPS fix I flash but I believe I've tried to get this working with those defaulted...
Any advice?
I have no advice for you other than to say that I have had the same problem. I flashed the 160 ril and have had good results with the radio performance, at least where I live.
If i'm not mistaken the 13.04.19 radio is for the desire hd. The latest radio release for the inspire was the 10.04.03. Don't
know if this has anything to do with it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285645
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253724
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996630&page=40
You guys should not be flashing any new RILs in CM7. The whole "match the radio to the RIL" thing does not really apply to CM7. It has a special AOSP RIL (version 2.2.0018G) that matches the ROM, and it works well with all radios. Besides, there are known issues that can sometimes crop up when using HM RILs in CM7.
BTW the latest official radio for Inspire/AT&T is 26.10.04.03, and I suggest using that one for a while and judge your results before you go off flashing other radios. 26.10.04.03 should work great for you.
henrybravo said:
The whole "match the radio to the RIL" thing does not really apply to CM7. It has a special AOSP RIL (version 2.2.0018G) that matches the ROM, and it works well with all radios. Besides, there are known issues that can sometimes crop up when using HM RILs in CM7.
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Really? Thanks for the info I wasn't aware of that.
I have actually used a lot of the info in your other APN/Radio related posts henrybravo, so thanks for the help! (both past and present)
I have to say thank you as well. I have been doing a lot of reading on this forum since I got my Inspire, and this is the first I have heard about the HM rils not working well with CM7.
I do have to say that the 160 ril I was using did not cause any unusual problems for me other than the normal CM7 issues. I flashed the 18G ril last night after reading your posts.
Thank you for the information and the time to answer and correct me.
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sutehk said:
I have to say thank you as well. I have been doing a lot of reading on this forum since I got my Inspire, and this is the first I have heard about the HM rils
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The "RIL" is a shared library compiled from a specific source tree. It should never be changed from the stock one that came with your ROM as subtle differences in compiling can have negative effects. It should ESPECIALLY not be mixed between HTC Sense and CM7 (or AOSP) builds since the source trees are considerably different.
In short, there's really no reason to mess with radio/ril at all.
Thank you Gene. Question with that all being said, should I reflash the ROM since I was playing with the rils?
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sutehk said:
Thank you Gene. Question with that all being said, should I reflash the ROM since I was playing with the rils?
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You only need the ril files from the ROM zip. If you know you're way around linux and know how to mount your system r/w (or use adb push in recovery) you can just replace the ril files, or even just push the whole lib dir, but otherwise, reflashing the ROM will do it (no need to wipe data).
Alright I'm all straightened out now. Thanks Gene for taking the time to explain and answer questions.
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allstar21369 said:
I have actually used a lot of the info in your other APN/Radio related posts henrybravo, so thanks for the help! (both past and present)
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Glad to help. Hopefully I've never led you astray.
Although I knew about not changing the RIL in cyanogenmod ROMS I had to search hard to find this information to post the links in the second post. If you actually read the radio/ril threads and even the opening post in the CM DEV threads they do not mention or warn about this. Matter of fact some mention that it is ok to flash new RILs. This is some very important info that the DEVs seem to leave out.
I was wondering this myself earlier. Is this potentially the big issue with the CM7 ROMs? I know when I got started, it seemed as though the recommended ril was the best overall. However due to location, each persons mileage may vary. This not being the case, are to many people playing around too much and causing allot of the GPS and radio problems associated with the cyanogen ROMs?
I may be over thinking this.
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In my opinion radios and rils being location dependant is untrue. I believe it is best to keep the RIL that matches the base ROM and use the cooresponding Radio. It makes no sense why the latest ATT radio would work any different with respect to what ATT towers you are connected. If it was true then all phones from all manufacturers would have to have tweaked radios/modems to match their location.
But I have seen many times where people have changed radios and rils on cyanogenmod ROMS and had issues or no data at all. To me that tells me that the RILS and Radios are tied to the drivers in the base ROM.
Gene Poole said:
The "RIL" is a shared library compiled from a specific source tree. It should never be changed from the stock one that came with your ROM as subtle differences in compiling can have negative effects. It should ESPECIALLY not be mixed between HTC Sense and CM7 (or AOSP) builds since the source trees are considerably different.
In short, there's really no reason to mess with radio/ril at all.
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I believe that was what Gene was trying to say here in his post.
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Problems with Sensation

Hi guys
First, thanks for a ****ing great forum!
love the roms, and its great how people help each other here!!
well well well..
I just but a Sensation two weeks ago, before that i had a DHD (still have), got two phone numbers now, private and business..
I must admit, i have never been so dissapointed by a new phone, as now..
Its rooted, and i've tried a couple of different roms on it.. Before i rooted it, i had 4-5 days with stock rom, and that sucked..
In compare, my DHD is oc'ed to 1,7Ghz, and runs on the RCMix3D Runny v3.3, 2.3.5, with sense 3.5..
its ****ing fast, and i have made some tweaks and uninstalled some stuff that i didnt need, from stock..
WHICH i also have done on the Sensation..
My Sensation runs with CoreDroid V.4.0 ICS 4.0.3, and thats a nice rom, but my phone still sucks.
I often got bad signal, and it falls out sometimes when im in calls, even if im in the middle of the city, and should have great signal.
Got great signal on DHD all the time.
Got problems with wifi signal as well, my DHD is by far superior.
GPS problems, it hasn't worked from the start, even with stock rom it couldn't locate me, and kept saying "Waiting for signal".
But what i find most ****ed up, is that both models is supposed to have 768mb.. i know that it is not possible to see all of them in the manager.. but take a look at this:
Sensation:
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Can anyone explain this?
Sensation shows 583mb ram
DHD shows 621mb ram
WTF
The battery also sucks.. I need to charge it at least once everyday, and i've tried some of the tricks that people have written here on XDA.. didn't work
Then i got some hardware fault also.. When i push the screen, in the left corner, just above the home button, it pushes down, and makes a squeezy noise, and if i take it to my ear and do it, i can hear that air is being compressed out between the cover and the phone hardware..
I talked to the carrier, who are supposed to send it back to HTC to get it repaired, so gonna do that monday.. They told me to put it back to stock rom before i leave it in, so will do that..
They will need it up to two weeks. Sucks!
But what do you think?
Is there major problems like this on many Sensations, or did i just get a bad piece of hardware?
How about the signal, should i try some different radios?
Never flashed another radio before, but could do that..
Who can explain the RAM difference between Sensation and DHD.
Thank you for your time!
Search, I have answered this same question at least 2 times before. Sensation uses more RAM for GPU and other stuff so more RAM is "hidden" to task managers and system
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Stick with the new handset when you get it and try CM9 or aosp builds.
You can OC Sensation to 1.8 stable in most cases. I'm getting just shy of 8000 on CFbench, and that's with miui.
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[Q] Rooting girlfriends SGS3 best rom?

What is the best Touch Wiz rom that i won't need to update all the time that will be bug free and good on battery?
Same with ASOP. i wanna let my girlfriend decide if she wants to flash a touchwiz or asop rom.
Also whats the difference between the Original Android development and Android development. I'm usually in the MyTouch 4G section and we don't have a thread like that.
original is AOSP roms.
there hasnt been a VZW jellybean leak so for stability and battery life you should flash a touchwiz rom like synergy.
everyone will recommend different AOSP roms. youd have to flash a few to decide on one.
heres a good place to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
FWIW im running AOKP build 5. the AOSP roms are stable, but have quirks and bugs.
I've had very good luck with CleanRom. I often see that or Synergy recommended for stock Touchwiz-based roms. I tried a couple CM10/JellyBean roms a while ago, but they each had some issues. It should be better now, but since there's no official JB release, it may not be perfect.
alright thanks guy i think ill go with Synergy, seeing as there isnt one stable ASOP or AKOP rom, thanks guys
I have CleanROM on mine, fantastic rom with solid battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
blazeoc said:
I have CleanROM on mine, fantastic rom with solid battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
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thanks, looks great any issues? my girlfriend on her stock rom whenever she says she goes to home screen her apps and widgets flash for a brief second and she says its annoying. and she says its laggy. have any of these issue on CleanRom?
alfadog77 said:
thanks, looks great any issues? my girlfriend on her stock rom whenever she says she goes to home screen her apps and widgets flash for a brief second and she says its annoying. and she says its laggy. have any of these issue on CleanRom?
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No issues at all, lag free. I haven't seen any lag.
I was suggest synergy 73 was the most stable ics
Incubus jellybomb ics I,m hearing awesome news on this one
Cleanrom and Beans16 are suppose to be stable, I have been off ics since the ported jb roms.
For new in loving Jellywiz rsl10 hybrid and loving this Rom. Funny thing is seems like everyone's phone is allure different and sometimes you just have to perform a backup and take the roms for a drive to see what works the best on your S3.
Sent from my Smokin fast JellyWiz RSL10 hybrid test with da Real Icon Theme v9.4 & blue glass dialer by JBeitel
Beans is pretty popular as well, that's the one I've been sticking with the most. Seems to be mixed reviews on each release though with a few people experiences bugs while the majority hasn't had any.
Quick GPS, everything working properly, smooth, fast, and good on battery. Plus tons of customizations.
alfadog77 said:
thanks, looks great any issues? my girlfriend on her stock rom whenever she says she goes to home screen her apps and widgets flash for a brief second and she says its annoying. and she says its laggy. have any of these issue on CleanRom?
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No issues at all either. I'm using CleanRom2.5 but with Nova launcher. FWIW, I can often go over 24hrs on a single charge too.
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RADIO [UCLK4] For I727/I727R [09-DEC-2012]

What is it?
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This is the RADIO pulled from the UCLK4 JellyBean Leak (Samsung) (BIG THANKS to the anonymous source, you know who you are). Note, this has no RIL (it appears the ril interface remains the same), but I have no idea if anything under the hood (device firmware) has changed. But, any case you have the CSC files included which is relevant to touchwiz based ROMS.
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You are flashing this at your own risk.
Do NOT
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* Ask radio questions, read the damn stickies.
* Don't ask will this work on X ROM. Read the stickies about RADIO's in the forum. You will find the answers. Or, for christ sake, search!!
Installation
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* Upload to your device.
* Check md5sum (download link has the md5sum)
* make sure your device is untethered (do not flash plugged into usb)
* Choose zip from CWM.
* Flash.
Download Link
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* UCLK4 (For I727 and I727R) Only. Download
* Please see my EMBRYO-5.4 thread for other radios.
reserved
keeping this one
Thank you. Downloading. Will report back here.
Edit: flashed on cm10, 12/6 nightly. All is well.
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Edit: why NOT flash when attached to USB? First time I've seen that. Just curious
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Testing now. So far, same signal strength and speeds. Will be traveling this week and test on LTE.
mindmajick said:
Thank you. Downloading. Will report back here.
Edit: flashed on cm10, 12/6 nightly. All is well.
Edit: why NOT flash when attached to USB? First time I've seen that. Just curious
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Flashing with usb plugged in results in no signal generally. Not sure why.
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Flashing with usb plugged in results in no signal generally. Not sure why.
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That's pretty interesting, considering I did that and had to reflash several times with the UCLF6 modem because I was tethered.
Anyhow, does anyone have any idea's what exactly is changed in this modem, or if it works any better? I've heard modems are really device/location specific; like one may work in one area better, but a different modem works better in a different area.
Thanks for the share
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Can't get a geo location lock with this radio
Edit: reflashed and reflashed kernel and so far all is well
I will have to give this a try. So far UCLF6 has been the best radio for me. UCLI3 was crap (for me) and I've had to ditch it twice.
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WOW. My small little town loves this radio. Literally twice as fast as UCLF6 for me. GPS also works like a charm. Thanks
Working great so far thanks!
Can this be used on the Hercules? I would imagine this resolves some of the signal/call quality issues.
Not for Hercules, as the op states, and on att my lte speeds went 4mbps up from ucli3 on average, hoping call quality Improves immensely, ucli3 has a problem with call volume on my phone
After a full day of use, I have found no bugs whtsoever with the radio and LiquidSmooth ROM. Quick GPS fix and good speeds on LTE or 3G. No dropped data connections or anything else. Looks like a winner for me.
flash 3 hours already. no differece between this and ucli3 for me. both is much better than uclf6.
cm10 stable page recommended the ucli3 radio, so flash back to ucli3.
one question, anyone know where to find the changelog for these radios?? why they keep update the radios if there is no change??
getting the fastest speeds i ever got on this phone, and so far it seems to work better connecting to cingular apn instead of pta for some reason... thanks for the awesome modem!
as the OP states, I flashed at my own risk, on a cm10 by Sean
at first boot it soft reboot, but so far is stable I do see full bars now, will check tomorrow for call quality
speeds remain the same as ucli3 but better than uclf6.
Chiming is as well, just flashed to the CM10 12-9 nightly and I flashed this radio as I was having a **** ton of NO SIM card errors and I was frantically looking for a fix. Thus far, fastest speeds I've seen on LTE and solid bars where I've gone this evening. I'll report back once I head into work and hit the dreaded "dead zone" in my office to see how this radio fares.
onearmedscissor said:
getting the fastest speeds i ever got on this phone, and so far it seems to work better connecting to cingular apn instead of pta for some reason... thanks for the awesome modem!
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I still get no data connection when in an LTE area using cingular. I do get data using cingular when not in an LTE area. Strange??? I stay on PTA all the time and get data connect in both areas. This has been the case for me with any radio on my skyrocket. Not sure why.
Data connection for me is about 5-10mbps slower than UCLF6 on LTE. No noticeable difference with calls.

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