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Now don’t laugh... It’s a valid question. I am all about speed. I have a 6 core CPU in my PC that is totally useless but makes me feel good. I get that.
But I honestly don’t see what I need faster network speeds on my phone for... Everything I do is fast. I am never like... "Come on load!!" on my phone... So why would I sacrifice battery life for internet speed I don’t use or need?
I understand if you are using your phone as a wireless hotspot you would want that speed. But what else? Can you guys even suggest things I could try on my phone that would make me want faster speeds? We don’t have Netflix yet but maybe that is one. But movies can buffer and from what I understand they will play smooth on 3G with no problems.
So what is it? You just want the speed because it’s there? Again if that’s it I get that!
But what are actually apps or usages that you can experience a difference. Because right now nothing I do seems to have a speed issue on 3G.
Let me follow that long winded post up with something straight to the point…
Seems like 99.9% of what I do on my phone is power critical (meaning I want to be able to do all of it as long as I can without charging) and not internet speed critical at all. So why would I ever turn 4G on?
Wow those facebook pics loaded in .2 seconds instead of .8 seconds. Good thing even though I’m only going to be able to browse facebook for 2.5 hours instead of 8 to get that difference!
I am also interested to see in what people can make up.
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Well I live in the middle of no where and can't get good internet so I will be using 4G LTE to tether as soon as the towers are put up which should be soon since it's announced.
That's cool and is a valid reason. But will still be a total pain in the ass. You will soon just want a 4G usb aircard or seperate MIFI device... Trying to use your phone as your sole internet connection sucks.
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I'd like to try to use 4G as much as I can because I am using the TB as a videophone so I can talk with my Deaf clients and also be able to access sign language interpreters while placing phone calls to hard of hearing clients and hearing vendors. The minimum requirement I found for smooth video and audio seems to be two signal bars in 3G. 4G or at least two WiFi "waves" is preferred.
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Tethering with 4g is awesome when you cant get on wifi.
Video playback on 4g is fast and you can also watch higher quality videos.
Downloading apps and whatnot is lightning fast.
I have had pda type phones for the last 8 years, the thunder bolt speed is awesome.
That being said..
Dont be a moron and leave the 4g on if you dont care about 4g speeds. Save your fricking battery and turn 4g off.
Latency seems better overall on LTE versus the normal 3G CDMA, which means something if you care about how fast you get your data from the internet.
On an unrelated note, I would love to have a 6 core cpu, so I could use the extra cores for virtual machines or compiling and the rest for normal stuff, so there are indeed uses for things that seems "useless."
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I just had a lol moment..
I thought i might try and run vm server and load up 2008 server and a vm client machine.
FYI dont do what i did.. Load it up on a laptop with only 4gb of ram and a slow 5400rpm hard drive.
Just in case everyone forgot. Come may 15th wireless tether will be a payer and tiered feature. When your using 4g on your computer you will use that up real quick. Unless you use wireless tether for root users but that is becoming somewhat of a risk nowadays since Verizon isn't raking in enough money yet.
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Hulu. Watching all youtube vids in HD. Open up future video streaming apps. Online multiplayer games. It's not just a speed increase but you will also get voice and data the same time. I don't have a desktop computer at home so I do all my computer needs on my cellular. 85% of the things I do on my phone is data related. Also if you think about it whenever verizon gets all the bugs out on there 4G network it could save on battery life. Now hear me out I think the lesser time your downloading or uploading the less strain it will be on your battery. As opposed to same processing but slower speeds meaning more time consuming battery (longer download and upload time) because that's what is really killing the battery is battery consumption via data. Idk just thinking.
Same as above
I watch YouTube vids in high quality mode all the time. Virtually impossible without 4g.
Also Google maps loads way quick... Which is the one thing I hate waiting on.
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Sling Player Mobile...
SlingBox over 4G is awesome...
So clear, so good...
(i took the picture while it was transitioning to another scene...)
Not to be a jerk or anything but I watch YouTube videos in HD on 3g. I get 2.5kb down and can watch entire videos without a hitch.
Although an entire hulu video may be a different story. I am able to watch entire hockey games in high quality with the nhl app.
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I can do hq youtube on 3g with no problems. I love the 4g when I am using the slingbox though. I could never put it in hq over 3g so that is nice. I also download all my cds right from my phone so its nice to have them in 2 min instead of 20.
Also streaming music from the amazon cloud is much nicer on 4g
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but you will also get voice and data the same time.
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I get voice and data at the same time in a 3G or 4G area with the TBolt...
Does not matter...
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I get voice and data at the same time in a 3G or 4G area with the TBolt...
Does not matter...
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Same. With how the phone is built you can talk and surf in 3g or 4g on this phone. Its one of the TB's major plusses.
It's probably just me, but I find it funny that you guys all can do things immediately on 3g, I find major waiting times. Even in the best signal places where I get 1-2mbps down I still have to wait 5-20 seconds for my droid 2 global to load a page, it is a pain.
For example, right now I am in my dorm in Burlington, VT, my phone has a signal between -68 and 70dbm at 0 asu, and the current speedtest.net app shows .65-.7mbps down and .63-.65 up. Not great speeds, but within what 3g is supposed to be, and if I want to watch a high quality youtube video, I go to the youtube app, count that it takes 14 seconds to load, I am doing this right now. Click the new ray william johnson video, and it takes 24 seconds to start, then 1:02 into the video it freezes for 43 more seconds. At this point I deem 3g unuseable for youtube videos. When I am getting super awesome over 1mbps speeds then I usually only wait 5-10 seconds and it doesn't freeze, usually, but still 3g can very often and for a large number of people be slow. Similarly web pages take a while to load too, I mean sure if I load the mobile version of a webpage it is fairly fast, 4-5 second waits usually, but for those sites without mobile pages or where mobile pages are too limiting, it can take forever to load, I constantly have to look away from my phone for 20 or more seconds then look back to still see it loading. I imagine 4g would run at a minimum of 3mbps even if it was way way over used and signal was bad, so for me that is why 4g makes sense.
Also the thunderbolt is the first 4g lte phone for verizon, clearly there are still issues to work out and battery useage can be made significantly better, I don't see the current power use of 4g as an indicator of power use a year or 2 down the line.
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... since Verizon isn't raking in enough money yet.
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I lol'd hard ... also no 3G here yet
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Now don’t laugh... It’s a valid question. I am all about speed. I have a 6 core CPU in my PC that is totally useless but makes me feel good. I get that.
But I honestly don’t see what I need faster network speeds on my phone for... Everything I do is fast. I am never like... "Come on load!!" on my phone... So why would I sacrifice battery life for internet speed I don’t use or need?
I understand if you are using your phone as a wireless hotspot you would want that speed. But what else? Can you guys even suggest things I could try on my phone that would make me want faster speeds? We don’t have Netflix yet but maybe that is one. But movies can buffer and from what I understand they will play smooth on 3G with no problems.
So what is it? You just want the speed because it’s there? Again if that’s it I get that!
But what are actually apps or usages that you can experience a difference. Because right now nothing I do seems to have a speed issue on 3G.
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I asked this same question once and got ridiculed for it. I think perhaps in the future we'll need more speed on our cell network but right now I get all the speed I need off of wifi at work or home. I would love to see some innovations in faster processors without compromising any battery life. Or I'd love to see them develop better batteries. I like 4G but I hope we see faster phones with better batteries before anyone even mentions 5G.
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Don’t say YouTube or blockbuster because both of those stream completely smooth at highest quality on 3G. Don’t say downloading apps as apps for these phones are so small they are are still downloadable in under a min on 1x. Don’t say uploading pics to facebook as that is very fast on 1x too.
Come on... No BS! No crazy hypothetical’s... We all do the same stuff all day, we browse facebook, we check email, we send text messages, and we download apps...
I understand this kind of thing in the PC world were speed is the only factor. But here it’s not. We are talking about downloading an ap in 20 seconds as opposed to 50 seconds... yet it costs you 3 hours of battery life to leave your phone in 4g to do it....
I just don’t understand.... Can someone please explain it to me? I don’t see any possible explanation.. Just give me one single valid usage example...!
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Don’t say YouTube or blockbuster because both of those stream completely smooth at highest quality on 3G. Don’t say downloading apps as apps for these phones are so small they are are still downloadable in under a min on 1x. Don’t say uploading pics to facebook as that is very fast on 1x too.
Come on... No BS! No crazy hypothetical’s... We all do the same stuff all day, we browse facebook, we check email, we send text messages, and we download apps...
I understand this kind of thing in the PC world were speed is the only factor. But here it’s not. We are talking about downloading an ap in 20 seconds as opposed to 50 seconds... yet it costs you 3 hours of battery life to leave your phone in 4g to do it....
I just don’t understand.... Can someone please explain it to me? I don’t see any possible explanation.. Just give me one single valid usage example...!
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I do agree you could do most of what you do on 4g on 3g easily and I could live with 3g. I really don't know why you are in love with 1x, I could not stand 1x, webpages took over a minute to download. Please stop praising 1x, I do agree 3g is plenty fast for everyday task. I am not sure about streaming HQ on 3g, verizon 3g is pretty damn slow when everyone is on it, unless you live in a small city.
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I do agree you could do most of what you do on 4g on 3g easily and I could live with 3g. I really don't know why you are in love with 1x, I could not stand 1x, webpages took over a minute to download. Please stop praising 1x, I do agree 3g is plenty fast for everyday task.
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I’m only praising 1X because of what it can teach us.. And really… some Webpages took over a min to load on 1x..? I find that not believable. What webpages? 1x is still like 1mbps... I don’t know of really any webpage that would take that long to load at that speed.
This brings me back to my point. These are still f'ing phones!! Howe many of you are farmers out in the middle of fields trying to pull up NASA Auto CAD files on your Thunderbolts?!!?
Almost all of us have computers on networks all around us.. I really can’t think of ANYTHING we could possible need to do on these phones that 3G is not fast enough for (let alone 1x)...
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I do agree you could do most of what you do on 4g on 3g easily and I could live with 3g. I really don't know why you are in love with 1x, I could not stand 1x, webpages took over a minute to download. Please stop praising 1x, I do agree 3g is plenty fast for everyday task. I am not sure about streaming HQ on 3g, verizon 3g is pretty damn slow when everyone is on it, unless you live in a small city.
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Hey not so fast, I'm in a city of 50k people, that counts as pretty small, and I get crappy speeds too, youtube is not fast for me at all, takes over 30 seconds to start a video, and it needs to stop to buffer every 40-60 seconds usually, and web pages that aren't mobile take 10-20 seconds to load plenty of the time even inf full strong signal places, I'm talking like -54 to -58dbm places. I see a ton of people saying pages load instantly for them and that youtube high quality videos play instantly and never need to buffer, but it's not the case for me, and I know others with the same issue, clearly 3g is not universally fast enough for these basic tasks and to call those reasons bs is just ignorant.
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I’m only praising 1X because of what it can teach us.. And really… some Webpages took over a min to load on 1x..? I find that not believable. What webpages? 1x is still like 1mbps... I don’t know of really any webpage that would take that long to load at that speed.
This brings me back to my point. These are still f'ing phones!! Howe many of you are farmers out in the middle of fields trying to pull up NASA Auto CAD files on your Thunderbolts?!!?
Almost all of us have computers on networks all around us.. I really can’t think of ANYTHING we could possible need to do on these phones that 3G is not fast enough for (let alone 1x)...
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1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.
Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?
Why do we need 1GB of ram? Dual Cores? These types of questions have been asked for centuries. The answer to all of them, because you should! I like having the extra speed on the task that I do on my phone on a daily bases. Browsing the net is faster, downloads are faster, buffering time is lower.
It's a new technology, and I think people are expecting too much in terms of battery life. It's a 1st generation LTE device, where not only is the technology on the phone new, but the network is relatively small. It was like EV-DO devices, you didn't really need them at the time. Their battery life was horrible when it was constantly searching for signal that you probably didn't use.
I don't really understand why anyone would buy a 4g device, then question the necessity of it. You can do everything on 1x, EV-DO, and LTE just the same as they all lead you to the same place. However, how much longer will each take?
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1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.
Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?
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Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!
And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.
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Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!
And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.
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Weird, I am on my phone now on xda and even the forum takes 15 to 40 seconds to load a page, and that's time with the up and down arrows on 3g lit, the advocate site was mostly time with the browser sitting saying it is loading and not doing anything but still 20 or 30 seconds was active downloading. Not sure why it is so much faster for you on your phone than on my droid 2 global but I don't think my phone is messed up and even if it was there is no way to prove or verify that it is, verizon people would laugh me out of the store.
4g allows simultaneous voice and data
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4g allows simultaneous voice and data
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That is done on the 3G network, nothing to do with lte
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That is done on the 3G network, nothing to do with lte
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Yep. It's done 3g via rev. A and rev. B bands
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Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!
And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.
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Took me 7 seconds on 3g but I think he misspelled it. So I did advocate.com instead of adovcate.com and the page had alot more data to load but still completely loaded in about 17 seconds (cm7 stock browser)
Edit: Said he had .74mbps speed so maybe that's the factor there as I am getting 2.3mbps on 3g.
And for the original question, .....I am very impatient. When I hit enter I want it done. Try eating ice cream but make yourself take a minute before the spoon gets to your mouth.
3G is plenty fast no doubt, but faster is better.
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1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.
Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?
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It took me 7 seconds to load this website completely on 3g.nn
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Oops website was misspelled.. advocate.com took 17 seconds to completely load using Dolphin beta...
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3g is fine for me but 1x is too slow. 4g is much faster but until they solve the battery drain issue, I will be on 3g most of the time.
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Am I the only one sick of these threads? 4G if awesome because I can watch sling box in full hq without any buffering times and download full movies to my phone in minutes instead of hours.
Those saying they dont need 4g, go back to your pentium 2 processor with 128mbs of ram and tell me why you like multiple core cpus and triple channel ram...
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I’m only praising 1X because of what it can teach us.. And really… some Webpages took over a min to load on 1x..? I find that not believable. What webpages? 1x is still like 1mbps... I don’t know of really any webpage that would take that long to load at that speed.
This brings me back to my point. These are still f'ing phones!! Howe many of you are farmers out in the middle of fields trying to pull up NASA Auto CAD files on your Thunderbolts?!!?
Almost all of us have computers on networks all around us.. I really can’t think of ANYTHING we could possible need to do on these phones that 3G is not fast enough for (let alone 1x)...
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Sorry but your being unreasonable and only considering your personal habits apply to everyone else in the nation. You must be the lucky top 1 percent of the top 1 percent for 1X speeds because I couldn't get anything done on that slow junk. Not to mention for me 1X was going in and out, the network was in bad shape.
For those in the big city like myself, we were like 10,000 pigs fighting to get fed by one skinny momma pig.
Anyone smell a troll in the room?
I was trying to refrain from cutting down Verizon and giving them a hard time (this is my first post to actually give my opinion on the situation) but your post makes me want to let Verizon know this is in no way acceptable. I asked Verizon if I could go back to old 3g via 778 and their response was no don't it will mess up authentication on your phone....so they wanted me to stay on slow 1X, according to Verizon's rules, protocol or whatever we were all to stay on 1X.
This is XDA FYI
Just wondering, are you affiliated with Verizon?
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Am I the only one sick of these threads? 4G if awesome because I can watch sling box in full hq without any buffering times and download full movies to my phone in minutes instead of hours.
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+10000000000000
I've watched both NHL Gamecenter Live and MLB At Bat games on both 3g and 4g and it's not even remotely close to the amount of latency I get on 3g vs 4g. I can stream an entire game on LTE without so much a hiccup vs on 3g where the game will basically scramble the image and put it back together pixel by pixel until it ends up freezing and I have to restart the stream.
Now that LTE is in the two places I am at the most (Philadelphia and the Lehigh Valley) it's no contest. I even have my Bolt in LTE Mode and if I don't have LTE I switch it up to wifi. Both are going to trump 3g speeds a majority of the time (at least where I'm at.)
If I wanted to stay on 3g I would've kept my X (and I loved that phone.) It's all about moving forward.
Oh God please tell me this is all a joke right?
There is no way you can be even satisfied with 2.3Down as a high average when Mine and many others High average is 14 or 15Down. I understand if your not in a LTE then Im sorry but... Youtube on HQ does not load even close to as fast on ANY 3G Network, on LTE I have never had to wait for a buffer.
Downloading MP3 in 2-3 seconds. When I was forced to use 3G yesterday took up to a minute on some songs, Songs now a days are 8-13mb because of increased quality.
Even daily usage, like going to webpages is faster, because... the internet is just faster. Especially flash websites, and watching embedded Flash videos. It used to be so bad that I would never show my phones ability to do embedded video, now that LTE can load a youtube video as fast as, if not faster, than WIFI... yeah I show it of a little.
Tethering, I cannot tell you how many times I have let people use my phones internet because UCF's Wifi was down, or they got poor signal or whatever... Even in my own house I have had to do this a couple times.
Beacuase everything is faster, you use more mb's. This first month, since april 3, I have used 6.7GB's tethering only at school or home for low mb usage. Most of the usage has been downloading mixtapes and stuff since I use the phone as my music player. Youtube also because it loads so fast I have used a lot as well.
Long story short: I was stuck on 3G yesterday, and not just tethering, but EVERYTHING was noticeably slower even opening fb, and I would NOT say that is acceptable in this day and Age, there is no defense for 3G or any 3G only-phone coming out, sorry Inc2. Until yesterday morning I forgot about 1X, Im trying to keep it forgotten!
If you raise the bar you raise the standards.
I just got my Sensation 4g from Walmart. It is on HSPA+ on T-Mobile and when trying to open a web site or sync Facebook or use any kind of data for that matter it is slow to connect if it even connects at all. I then have to hit refresh a few times before it actually kicks in. Is anyone having any similar issues? I had a myTouch4g previously and never experienced this.
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I just got my Sensation 4g from Walmart. It is on HSPA+ on T-Mobile and when trying to open a web site or sync Facebook or use any kind of data for that matter it is slow to connect if it even connects at all. I then have to hit refresh a few times before it actually kicks in. Is anyone having any similar issues? I had a myTouch4g previously and never experienced this.
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Yep mine too. Somtimes its super fast. Sometimes super slow
Had the same exact issue. All good now. Even WiFi was capped at 1.5 download for some reason.
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i noticed that also with mines.. even when it dies get a bit fast it is still just a tad faster than what my nexus s was. I live in Orlando, one of tmo's supposid biggest 4g markets
I've also noticed the same thing.
Same thing here. Did a speed test and it says I am only getting 573 kbps download and 217 kbps upload
I had dial-up that's faster than that lol
EDIT: Tried running the test again, and I keep getting a network connection error, and it won't even run the test. but I got 4 bars. Wtf?
Its not that my speeds are that slow its like it takes forever to start going. Its annoying because the first time it never works right away. Has anyone been able to find a fix? It reminds me of my Nexus. If this continues I definititly cant keep this phone. A radio update might be the only fix
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Its not that my speeds are that slow its like it takes forever to start going. Its annoying because the first time it never works right away. Has anyone been able to find a fix? It reminds me of my Nexus. If this continues I definititly cant keep this phone. A radio update might be the only fix
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I'm thinking HTC could fix a lot of their issues with an update. Include a radio update, a software update for the touchscreen problems, and unlock the bootloader, all in one package hopefully
We soups should report this on their fb page
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Its not that my speeds are that slow its like it takes forever to start going. Its annoying because the first time it never works right away. Has anyone been able to find a fix? It reminds me of my Nexus. If this continues I definititly cant keep this phone. A radio update might be the only fix
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I'm noticing the same thing. Hopefully an easy software fix.
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Experiencing the same thing; this morning on the way in had 4 bars of 4g and it wouldn't connect to anything. Reboot fixed it; then it happened again. Very tempted to return and wait it out for a little bit.
Also been getting "error 502's" all over the place...egh
Try this.
Speed up the latency on your Sensation
Market loads instantly now.
Thanks digi, I was just about to post this. Its working great for me!
Edit your OP with the link for the "FIX"
ChrisAC84 said:
Same thing here. Did a speed test and it says I am only getting 573 kbps download and 217 kbps upload
I had dial-up that's faster than that lol
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dial-up doesn't get any faster than 56 kbps at the most.. just saying
I'm having the same issues. Full bars of 4G coverage, but one minute I'm getting 9Mbps download speeds, the next minute everything is timing out. It's gotten very frustrating.
The "fix" posted above did nothing for me.
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I'm having the same issues. Full bars of 4G coverage, but one minute I'm getting 9Mbps download speeds, the next minute everything is timing out. It's gotten very frustrating.
The "fix" posted above did nothing for me.
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Mine fixed for a while then went back to same thing
Samsung introduced a new feature on the SGS2 called "Fast Dormancy." It's a battery saving feature that disconnects data when not active. It might be a feature in 2.3 and HTC might have enabled it too. Maybe you guys can find the toggle.
Here's the SGS2 thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111581
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dial-up doesn't get any faster than 56 kbps at the most.. just saying
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Smartass, lol. I was making a point
E-MAC said:
I'm having the same issues. Full bars of 4G coverage, but one minute I'm getting 9Mbps download speeds, the next minute everything is timing out. It's gotten very frustrating.
The "fix" posted above did nothing for me.
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This is exactly what's happening with me. I think it mgiht be a coverage thing, I checked the coverage map and it shows as Moderate at best in my little area
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This is exactly what's happening with me. I think it mgiht be a coverage thing, I checked the coverage map and it shows as Moderate at best in my little area
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There are a couple of reasons I don't believe it's a coverage issue. Mainly, I'm within 200 yds of a tower. When data is working, it's really strong. If the signal were weak, I can't imagine getting 9 Mbps download speeds. The speeds would be consistently poor rather than excellent one minute and not working at all the next. Also, nobody else in the area with a TMO 4G phone is having this issue.
Anybody else lose 4g???
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i've got 4g right now in houston.
Dang I guess its my phone ugh
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I've had 4G all day. Open Settings > Wireless & networks > Radio info. Scroll down & make sure CDMA+LTE/EvDo auto is enabled
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It was just restarted the phone and it worked sorry guys should have tried that first..
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I'm bringing this up because I am having 4G issues in my place. The data cuts in and out a lot, and sometimes hangs with the up arrow lit, forcing me to use 3G for the time being. I'm wondering if anyone else is having problems.
I am also thinking if VZ is throttling or not, but 17 days into my billing cycle so far, I have used only 2.5 gigs, hardly a reason to be considered excessive.
what25 said:
I'm bringing this up because I am having 4G issues in my place. The data cuts in and out a lot, and sometimes hangs with the up arrow lit, forcing me to use 3G for the time being. I'm wondering if anyone else is having problems.
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I doubt verizon is throttling. You are proly in a 4G fringe area. If you don't need 4G all the time, you should change the radio to CDMA auto. Your battery will quickly drain looking for 4G signal (or trying to hold on to a weak signal)
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I posted a question like this on the q and a forum. Its not your phone. I am having problems with 4g in okc and im not the only one. People on rootzwiki are having the problem too in Texas. I believe its a verizon issue
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I doubt verizon is throttling. You are proly in a 4G fringe area. If you don't need 4G all the time, you should change the radio to CDMA auto. Your battery will quickly drain looking for 4G signal (or trying to hold on to a weak signal)
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I'm well inside the 4G area, and it worked well where I live until about a week ago, and its been flaky ever since.
what25,
You are not alone. Did you find a solution to the problem? If not, I hope you didn't do anything drastic.
I also have the problem (in Houston, on thunderbolt) and have found others on xda dev and rootzwiki that are having similar issues (also in Houston area). It's not just you. It also seems to be only thunderbolt users.
I'll post the links to others having the problem. Also, have you noticed it in general or has it only been with certain apps. For a while it was a problem with my 4g connecting. Now the 4g is connected but hardly loads. Plenty of apps seem fine, maybe slower. But it is mainly Google services that don't work. My Google voice doesn't work at all. I don't get notifications for new messages and the messages don't load in the main screen. Google plus doesn't load at all. Youtube is very slow, and the stock browser is also barely usable. I've had the problems for about the past 4 days (I think I really started noticing on Friday). These problems only occur on 4g by the way, not 3g.
Please respond if your situation sounds like it's the same problem.
I'm in houston having same problem as above..
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Same problem here! Houston area
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Same here (Webster). I started the thread at Rootzwiki, here are the details of my problem:
"I'm having the strangest problem, my browser is not cooperating with 4G. Especially with Google, the progress bar just sits there nearly indefinitely. It can load full sites, such as topgear.com, but it hangs at the end before the bar is full.
I can toggle down to 3G and it works fine. I'm currently running the OTA MR2 radio. This started, however, some time after I flash Chingy's latest leak. I've flash radios back and forth a couple of times, cleared cache and dalvik, clear Internet application data, I've even done a complete wipe (wiped everything twice) and re-flashed without restoring anything what so ever. Nothing works other than toggling down to 3G.
That being said, it's not a connection issue. I can tether and it runs great, speed tests ran from the phone have good results and most application that use data are fine. I'm baffled.
Any suggestion? Any one ran into something like this?
Thanks."
Taken from the thread I started in Q&A.
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what25,
You are not alone. Did you find a solution to the problem? If not, I hope you didn't do anything drastic.
I also have the problem (in Houston, on thunderbolt) and have found others on xda dev and rootzwiki that are having similar issues (also in Houston area). It's not just you. It also seems to be only thunderbolt users.
I'll post the links to others having the problem. Also, have you noticed it in general or has it only been with certain apps. For a while it was a problem with my 4g connecting. Now the 4g is connected but hardly loads. Plenty of apps seem fine, maybe slower. But it is mainly Google services that don't work. My Google voice doesn't work at all. I don't get notifications for new messages and the messages don't load in the main screen. Google plus doesn't load at all. Youtube is very slow, and the stock browser is also barely usable. I've had the problems for about the past 4 days (I think I really started noticing on Friday). These problems only occur on 4g by the way, not 3g.
Please respond if your situation sounds like it's the same problem.
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Yea I would describe the situation as very similar.
The browser would be very slow, or sometimes hang, when trying to load a webpage. When on 3G, everything works fine. My GMails have been getting delayed notifications on 4G as well. Havnt checked youtube, but I assume a similar situation would arise.
I switched back to mr1 radio and lte to no avail. What the hell, it's been 4 days. Has anyone contacted Verizon about this issue yet?
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Apparently the issue has to do with the DNS settings. Not sure why Verizon changed their DNS on us. Here's a thread on rootzwiki that contains the solution to fixing.
rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1763-Browser-not-liking-LTE&p=39618#post39618
i called and no one has reported it. i put in my report and after so, i decided hey i wanna try the nightly synergy. 7/25 on 2.75 radio, now everything works. but just to make sure i wiped and flashed cm7 and omgb back for a fresh start, 4g locked on but still had the same problems. im in the Houston area as well, i work downtown and live off 8 and the not so newly opened 90, i get great coverage never loose 4g.
Very odd. If it was due to a particular radio, it should have resolved when you flashed another. If the fix posted by strwberrybened does not work, grab SetDNS from the market & change to GoogleDNS or OpenDNS
Yes, no 4G in Deer Park at around 3:15 pm this afternoon. I was at my doctor's office and noticed that I only had 3G. I was unable to access the Internet via my T-Bolt and rebooted, it restored the Internet but not 4G. I am charging my phone now and will check again soon. I am using the leaked radio posted just a few days ago on the RootzWiki site.
I'm in Deer Park too, also 4g is back to normal. About time, just do a normal reboot and 4g should be back to normal. No more 4g lag!
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I wanted to post this thread do to huge hit I took in my data performance after switching over to the new radio recommended for the 2.3.4 ROMs that have been surfacing.
I was wondering if it was that I am using Simple Mobile as a provider even though they claim to be running on T-Mobiles network.
So If anyone on Simple Mobile that has/hasn't experienced data performance issues please post here your:
Current Radio:
RIL:
ROM:
Carrier:
Thanks for your help..
Not sure why but im getting horrible data speeds ever since flashing this radio a couple of days ago.. Ive been trying to figure out why, Ive even went back to prior ROM/radio configurations and now im stuck at the lame performance no matter what i do
Before flashing this "latest radio" I was flying smooth as far as data speeds..
I noticed an extreme difference immediately after boot-up from flashing this new radio..
And i cant seem to get it to go back..
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has anyone noticed sluggish data after flashing the 10.56 (recommended radio)?
I noticed a substantial difference
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So im trying to flash back to Radio version 10.11.9007.15_M TMOUS
After flashing Radio 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01, which was recommended to flash the latest Insert coin 2.3.4 2.1 but i noticed...
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Well that's crazy scary. I for one love Simple Mobile.s speeds and it's significantly better than T Mobile. I hope someone else has Simple Mobile like us and who's flashed their radio so we can confirm this. I hope you get your speeds back up mate.
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It can NEVER be better or ANY different than T-Mobile guys..its the same...you just pay your bill to someone else who buys minutes from T-Mobile stock...
Its all in your mind and scientifically and realistically impossible for you to have different speeds on Simple mobile than what we have on T-mobile. You are using the same "Control Switch", "Radius" and GSM/WCDMA towers and radios we use except yours is tracked through the up-start "Simple Mobile".
You have a bad radio and I would suggest you not even play with radio flashing. they are sometimes pointless and cause more headache as you can clearly see by your case. stick to what you know works.
Trust me..They don't claim to go through T-Mobile..They are T-mobile bro...Just sub-leasing minutes...I recently stopped working for T-Mobile and I know for sure.
Similar to how my original job, Helio was buying airtime from Sprint...We were a MVNO and not an actual service provider of sorts...Just a novelty company with our own hardware and no service so we rented it from them at wholesale prices cheaper than what they gave there own customers some times...Exact same service..Different billing and company.
I hope this clears up your misunderstanding.
I have no misunderstanding boss. Should have written a more clearer post up there explaining my view but it was just a post. Anyways I can swear up down left and right I receive better COVERAGE and SPEEDS than T Mobile any damn day of the week. I've switched over so many people who were on T Mobile to Simple and they will all tell me the same. My sister is currently on T Mobile and seriously thinking of switching over to Simple because her service has been berserk lately. And its not only her but friends I know as well are complaining the same thing. I know it seems crazy and I really have no clear explanation why, but its fact here, at least in Kansas City. And its not just the phone. I change phones like the weather so I've tried it on countless number of phones and it seems to have jumped up signal wise considerably. it honestly baffles me why more people don't switch over and save considerably on bogus taxes and other nonsense. I hope this thread doesn't become a flame war. I am just trying to help the guy up there and clear my position at the same time. Oh plus I've worked in countless cellular companies and even managed my own so I guess I have some knowledge to what I'm saying here. Thanks.
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I've use Simple mobile for one year on several Android devices and performance is no different than T-mobile because its using the same infrastructure.
Regardless, I upgraded my radio and its working very well for me with the InsertCoin 2.1 firmware.
It's an illuuuuusionnnnn. LOL
But that's what it is. I put it out there for you. Wish you the best and hope you get your radio issue sorted out. Be blessed.
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Lol probably is. I'll try again on different phones and see.
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throttled?
text "info" to 848484 and check your data usage.
if your over 2gb you will, i repeat, WILL be throttled. I dont care what anyone else says, every month for the past 3-4 months ive watched my usage and right around the 2gb mark (give or take 100mb or 2) my DL speed drops from an average of 1.8-2.x mbps to .45-.67mbps.
This originally happened to me on my MyTouch 3g Slide,and i almost threw it against a wall lol. Then suddenly one day my data was back to normal. Then it again happened to me on my Vibrant, which was when i got curious. Originally thought it was the roms i was flashing, then noticed that it happened usually towards the end of my billing cycle. Now its happened yet AGAIN on my Sensation, billing cycle started on the 29th and i was throttled last week, 2,223.34mb (ive downloaded alot, 1st time on 4G )
So it may not be your radio, just your data usage.
P.S- Didnt mean to go on a shpeel <--spelling? lol