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Moving On to HTC Inspire

Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.

its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.

I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
Sent from my Captivate.

MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
Sent from my Captivate.
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but...it's made by samsung!

alex4lex said:
but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.

ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..

daleaf said:
That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.

ryude said:
I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.

please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
rockingx10 said:
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.

Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.

So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?

The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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phonex1 said:
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...

phonex1 said:
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...

the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it

I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.

The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.

I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.

Inspire vs infuse (RAM)

does any one know how much RAM is in the infuse?! I can't find it online...

Thremix said:
does any one know how much RAM is in the infuse?! I can't find it online...
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Read down in the comments sections on Engadget. This guy is saying 429MB
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/13/samsung-infuse-4g-review/

I did, but it's one guys... I would think it at least has the same as the inspire..

From everything I've read, it's officially listed at 512MB. The 429, is what probably what he was seeing in real world use.
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this says 1GB
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/144715/20110512/samsung-infuse-4g-hp-veer-4g-at-t.htm

Thremix said:
this says 1GB
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/144715/20110512/samsung-infuse-4g-hp-veer-4g-at-t.htm
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I assure you it's not 1GB, it's 512MB

picked mine up today.
shows 429 mb ram

512?? I'll pass, I was gonna renew and get this over the sgsII since I dont care for the CPU.. but RAM is something I care about, as my inspire boggs down already.. these phones need to be unleashed from these bottlenecks!

Thremix said:
512?? I'll pass, I was gonna renew and get this over the sgsII since I dont care for the CPU.. but RAM is something I care about, as my inspire boggs down already.. these phones need to be unleashed from these bottlenecks!
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Boggs down? *scratches head* We have 768 of RAM, and I get very little lag on mine. You have a lot of processes running, or do you think you have a laggy unit? Now there is a device, codenamed Holiday, that is speculated for release on ATT that has a full 1GB RAM. It is speculated for release later this summer. Might be worth it hold off getting a new one till we know more about that device.
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yes, I have a ton of stuff running lol.... I will say that leedroid ROM has cleared a lot of stuff off, and it runs really good..

shadow65781 said:
picked mine up today.
shows 429 mb ram
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How does the phone run? Compared to the Inspire of course.

I'm a sales rep at an at&t store and I can tell you that I was sadly disappointed with the Infuse. My Inspire actually was faster.

[Q] HTC Vivid or wait until One X

I Have the htc Inspire right now, and I've had it for over a year now. Its ended up to be a great phone. But it has its problems, anyways... I was going to get the HTC Vivid, but i decided to wait. And then I found out about the One X! I was very excited for that, but it wont come out until the second quarter now for AT&T. I also found out that the Vivid will also be getting ICS and the new sense 4.0 in the next coming weeks. So, should I wait another month or two, to get the One X? Or would I be just as satisfied with the Vivid? Also, I have used the Vivid in a store with no LTE and it is wayy faster than my Inspire, would the One X be a lot faster than the Vivid? Thanks!

I am gonna stay with my inspire, ics almost ready for a daily driver.
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I would wait. I have an Inspire and my brother had the Vivid, not any significant differences between the phones. Call quality and speaker loudness are the same (low). Only benefit was LTE. Needless to say, he said it wasn't worth going from an Inspire to a Vivid.

I beg to differ
I made the switch from the Inspire to the Vivid, and I gotta say it's quite the step up, I haven't experienced any lag, currently running an official leak of ics with sense 3.6 currently, 4.0 is coming soon. stock on ics the kernel is clocked at 1.5ghz. the screen is just ridiculously better, I loaded up the same HD images on both for comparison and some looked like totally different pictures. such a lightning fast device too.
But if you want to wait for the One X you can, I'd say go ahead and get the Vivid, it's specs are pretty damn similar, and once it gets the ics w/ sense 4.0 update it'd be pretty much the same, only a little better looking.

DownTheCross said:
I beg to differ
I made the switch from the Inspire to the Vivid, and I gotta say it's quite the step up, I haven't experienced any lag, currently running an official leak of ics with sense 3.6 currently, 4.0 is coming soon. stock on ics the kernel is clocked at 1.5ghz. the screen is just ridiculously better, I loaded up the same HD images on both for comparison and some looked like totally different pictures. such a lightning fast device too.
But if you want to wait for the One X you can, I'd say go ahead and get the Vivid, it's specs are pretty damn similar, and once it gets the ics w/ sense 4.0 update it'd be pretty much the same, only a little better looking.
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The screen and processor on the one x are better and will probably be supported longer anyway
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does it matter in truth? 6months later we all want the newest thing anyways. it's not like ours becomes useless or cant do what we need, it just becomes obsolete in comparison to the next phone. and people thought computer death cycles were fast haha

Yes the OneX is a better phone hands down. BUT that's not what we're getting, we're getting the OneXL which has no sd slot, is an S4 dual core and is further gimped down to 16GB of storage. So after the rom you might get 9-10GB of storage, non-upgradable.
Hmmm... the Vivid isn't sounding as bad anymore does it?

would be possable to get the european vesion with the quad core processor in the states?
and i love my inspire just wish some one would port sense 4.0 over to it like there doing over on the nexus page.
but i dont realy like ics, the keyboards hard to use, the scrolling isnt as smooth, imo, i think ics is better left to the tablets.

bigslimoid said:
would be possable to get the european vesion with the quad core processor in the states?
and i love my inspire just wish some one would port sense 4.0 over to it like there doing over on the nexus page.
but i dont realy like ics, the keyboards hard to use, the scrolling isnt as smooth, imo, i think ics is better left to the tablets.
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My understanding is that the Euro units use different bands and the only one that may work is the Canadian Bell/Rodgers handsets. But that's only helpful if they get the quads, which I believe they will not. If you can find one that has these bands then you will have everything but LTE/4G. Due your research.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
*Edit Based on a comparison on GSM Arena it looks like it should be possible. But what's it going to cost???

The vivid seems to have zero development, so I would avoid it.

I would bet the Vivid gets a big price cut when the One X comes out.

i think both are very good phones, it all depends whether you want to wait for the one x. at the end of the day, what was new today will be old tomorrow

Considering the at&t variant is only dual core compared to the original quad core, get the Vivid.
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drakizard said:
I Have the htc Inspire right now, and I've had it for over a year now. Its ended up to be a great phone. But it has its problems, anyways... I was going to get the HTC Vivid, but i decided to wait. And then I found out about the One X! I was very excited for that, but it wont come out until the second quarter now for AT&T. I also found out that the Vivid will also be getting ICS and the new sense 4.0 in the next coming weeks. So, should I wait another month or two, to get the One X? Or would I be just as satisfied with the Vivid? Also, I have used the Vivid in a store with no LTE and it is wayy faster than my Inspire, would the One X be a lot faster than the Vivid? Thanks!
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Hey, I'm still a current Inspire owner and currentely have a Vivid. The Inspire is rooted and the Vivid is locked and stock. Next month I will be buying an unlocked One X. The hardware in the Vivid is very capable to last, even stock, through the normal contract length. However, the AT&T One X is only a slight upgrade from the Vivid. The only difference is that it has an S4 Snapdragon, the Vivid has an S3. Both are dual cores. Both have 16GB of storage. The X will have between 10 and 12GB user accessible, the Vivid has 12. The X is clocked at 1.5, the Vivid 1.2. The Vivid has a 960x540 qHD display. The X will have a 1280x720 HD display. The dev section in the Vivid forums is severely lacking of support. After a fallout, 2 of 4 devs took their roms elsewhere. However, we have quite a few users who are learning to fill the void and add more support. The dev section for the X is gonna be a whole lot better, I'm gonna say it'll probably rival the Inspire's. If money is no object, wait for the X. If money is an issue, definitely get the Vivid. I love mine, but I just can't resist an unlocked T3 X.
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I just cant see myself ever buying a phone that doesn't have a microsd slot. I might could go for one with 32gb storage with no sd slot, but I cant keep my 32gb card in my inspire under 24gb in use, no way I could fit everything onto 16gb total storage including system software, app storage, and all.
I know their selling point now is the whole 25gb of dropbox storage, and running everything "from the cloud" but without an unlimited data plan, I feel like that is just a ploy to trap people into getting charged for data overage.

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I just cant see myself ever buying a phone that doesn't have a microsd slot. I might could go for one with 32gb storage with no sd slot, but I cant keep my 32gb card in my inspire under 24gb in use, no way I could fit everything onto 16gb total storage including system software, app storage, and all.
I know their selling point now is the whole 25gb of dropbox storage, and running everything "from the cloud" but without an unlimited data plan, I feel like that is just a ploy to trap people into getting charged for data overage.
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Sums up my thoughts on the One X completely. I'll pass on this one, too.
Also, until LTE is fully deployed in my area, I'd rather not have a phone with LTE capability. So I'll stick with HSPA devices for now.

maddiedad2009 said:
I am gonna stay with my inspire, ics almost ready for a daily driver.
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Plus for all the Sense fans there is now a beta ICS rom with Sense 4.0 for the Inspire over in Development.

rdw55a said:
Plus for all the Sense fans there is now a beta ICS rom with Sense 4.0 for the Inspire over in Development.
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What's it called so I can test it out

God, the stupidity of some people boggles the mind.
1. Dual/Quad core is a meaningless metric for performance. The dual core in the One XL is equivalent to or faster than the quad core in the One X, with less power consumption. The Dual core in the Vivid is blown away by either.
2. The One X will run on AT&T's HSPA+ and GSM network, so long as it doesn't have a network lock on it.
3. Yes, the One XL is getting gimped pretty hard in storage. MTP partitioning would help, but the problem is with AT&T trying to cut costs.

I lost 2 months of crap after an app update bricked my iPhone.... NEVER again will I own a device that doesn't removable storage.
Direct Mass storage (in whatever form) and removable storage are 2 of my BIGGEST req's for a phone.
My $0.02.

ICS Update ....Is this true

Just stumbled on to this blog post
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-update-roll-out-odds-are-slim/
that's claiming the ICS update is slim chance of coming to the thunderbolt what are the chances of this??? Anybody else read this post I have never come across this site before, maybe its just opinion but I will flip if this phone doesn't get ICS update I will be ready to leave android all together ill go back to a dumb phone and save some money..
If HTC doesn't update this they will be on my list of no buy companies up there with samsung (OG galaxy tab owner) who would rather sell a new product than update an existing product that's a good way to lose customers rather than save them. I hate apple products with a passion but at least they get a couple updates before they make you buy a new phone this fragmentation is getting ridiculous.
Android has a chance to be great better than any iproduct but they need to step it up and get in with these phone manufacturers and clean up the fragmentation. work together so when a new version is released all phone can get it. plan ahead and support a product stop taking after china building crap that needs to be bought new again instead of being fixed and upgraded.
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let flaming begin I apologize if this is in the wrong forum or has a topic already

I agree, its ridiculous if our phones don't get this update. Its not so much that we don't get the update, but more that HTC has done nothing but break promises to Thunderbolt owners who already have been suffering through many issues. Hopefully they'll at least give us the RIL so the devs can finish they're roms because they're great so far. In the end though, I'm done with HTC once my contract is up... plan on getting the next Nexus where there will be no problems like this.

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I wouldn't take that website as legit, especially since my computer picked up a virus threat while loading the page.
(WARNING BEFORE YOU LOAD THE LINK)
Anyways, I have seen where one guy (can't remember his name) called HTC about the update for the Thunderbolt.
This guy claims that an HTC representative told him over the phone that HTC has already released the update to Verizon. Now that the ICS update is in Verizon's hands, we are basically waiting for Verizon to add their crap to it before they release it to it for use.
I wish I could find this post where the guy was talking about it.
I am almost certain that Thunderbolt users WILL see ICS, but never anything more updated than that.

RBarnett09 said:
I wouldn't take that website as legit, especially since my computer picked up a virus threat while loading the page.
(WARNING BEFORE YOU LOAD THE LINK)
Anyways, I have seen where one guy (can't remember his name) called HTC about the update for the Thunderbolt.
This guy claims that an HTC representative told him over the phone that HTC has already released the update to Verizon. Now that the ICS update is in Verizon's hands, we are basically waiting for Verizon to add their crap to it before they release it to it for use.
I wish I could find this post where the guy was talking about it.
I am almost certain that Thunderbolt users WILL see ICS, but never anything more updated than that.
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I remember reading the post you're talking about but how do we know if that is legit or not.
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RBarnett09 said:
I wouldn't take that website as legit, especially since my computer picked up a virus threat while loading the page.
(WARNING BEFORE YOU LOAD THE LINK)
Anyways, I have seen where one guy (can't remember his name) called HTC about the update for the Thunderbolt.
This guy claims that an HTC representative told him over the phone that HTC has already released the update to Verizon. Now that the ICS update is in Verizon's hands, we are basically waiting for Verizon to add their crap to it before they release it to it for use.
I wish I could find this post where the guy was talking about it.
I am almost certain that Thunderbolt users WILL see ICS, but never anything more updated than that.
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I get the feeling that if the ROM was being processed by VZW we'd have seen a "leak" already.

i think we will never see ICS ever... on tbolt.
everyone is moving from doing roms for an old device

HTC sent me this email yesterday when I asked them about ICS on the Thunderbolt
Dear #### ,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC technical support. I will gladly assist you with your inquiry regarding the ICS update and your Thunderbolt, ####.
HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that
With this being said, I would suggest that you keep an eye on our official website and social media outlets. Once we have released the software for your Thunderbolt, it will be announced on these sites first.
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused, ####. Keep in mind, you can find tips & tricks and your user manual on the Thunderbolt support page found here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-thunderbolt-verizon/
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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Sincerely,
Angela

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HTC sent me this email yesterday when I asked them about ICS on the Thunderbolt
Dear #### ,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC technical support. I will gladly assist you with your inquiry regarding the ICS update and your Thunderbolt, ####.
HTC does not announce dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that
With this being said, I would suggest that you keep an eye on our official website and social media outlets. Once we have released the software for your Thunderbolt, it will be announced on these sites first.
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused, ####. Keep in mind, you can find tips & tricks and your user manual on the Thunderbolt support page found here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-thunderbolt-verizon/
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Doesn't confirm nor deny just keeps us wondering. more or less the reason i posted this in the first place was because my wife has the rezound which was suppose to be updated the end of June/early July and here we are at the end of July and still nothing for the rezound either. So i thing HTC is turning into another samsung with updates lets hype up the news and tell everybody that we will update only to say down the road that it cant be updated.
It cant be paranoia when a Rom can be created for my OG galaxy tab showing it can run ICS without problems but samsung says it cant be done it all comes done greed they need to make money which i understand but they shouldn't be doing it at the expense of there loyal customers who ran out and bought the first 4G device created for verizon and waited almost a year before getting 4g in there areas (some i'm sure are still waiting). It may be a good business Decision now but it wont be in the long run when those customers go else where.

Rpatton said:
Doesn't confirm nor deny just keeps us wondering. more or less the reason i posted this in the first place was because my wife has the rezound which was suppose to be updated the end of June/early July and here we are at the end of July and still nothing for the rezound either. So i thing HTC is turning into another samsung with updates lets hype up the news and tell everybody that we will update only to say down the road that it cant be updated.
It cant be paranoia when a Rom can be created for my OG galaxy tab showing it can run ICS without problems but samsung says it cant be done it all comes done greed they need to make money which i understand but they shouldn't be doing it at the expense of there loyal customers who ran out and bought the first 4G device created for verizon and waited almost a year before getting 4g in there areas (some i'm sure are still waiting). It may be a good business Decision now but it wont be in the long run when those customers go else where.
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That's true. I'm really thinking about ditching this phone and picking up a used G Nex

This is exactly the reason HTC is now on my NO BUY list. I will stay away from HTC. I hate sense but liked HTCs build quality. But from here on out I will stay away from HTC phones. I will wait till the next Nexus comes out and that will be my next phone unless it doesnt release on Verizon then I will go with Samsung as long as the bootloader isnt locked down.

Considering the Desire HD's ICS update just got the axe and the phones are pretty similar..... I'm thinking the Ththunderbolt will probably get the same excuse. Glad I switched to a Galaxy S3.

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Considering the Desire HD's ICS update just got the axe and the phones are pretty similar..... I'm thinking the Ththunderbolt will probably get the same excuse. Glad I switched to a Galaxy S3.
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Well, that's not entirely true.
The latest excuse/reason from HTC regarding pulling the Desire HD ICS update states that the reason is due to lack of internal storage capacity to handle the upgrade.
Due to the lack of capacity(1.5Gb's), the update would end up formatting all of the users data.
This is the reasoning for them not updating that device.
Our Thunderbolt however, has approx. 4GB of internal storage, so for us, this excuse will not fly and should not be used.
Also we should not see a lack of update due to "Poor device performance" either.
As they have obviously gotten ICS and Sense 4 running well enough on the 600Mhz Desire C device that they just released.
So, should we be faced with the same fate as the Desire HD?
NO we shouldn't!
Does this guarantee anything?
Absolutely nothing!
But I don't think we can write it off just yet anyway....

As I stated in another post...
I don't believe the HTC Desire HD is the closest phone to the Thunderbolt. Rather, I believe the AT&T HTC Inspire 4G is, which does currently run ICS.
I don't see why it would be a problem for us. Especially when you compare the phones together, the Thunderbolt comes out on top.
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RBarnett09 said:
As I stated in another post...
I don't believe the HTC Desire HD is the closest phone to the Thunderbolt. Rather, I believe the AT&T HTC Inspire 4G is, which does currently run ICS.
I don't see why it would be a problem for us. Especially when you compare the phones together, the Thunderbolt comes out on top.
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Inspire and Desire HD are the same phone and run the same ROMs. AT&T just felt the urge to rename it.

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Inspire and Desire HD are the same phone and run the same ROMs. AT&T just felt the urge to rename it.
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The Inspire 4G is LTE ready where as the Desire is not. Also the Thunderbolt has more internal memory than the Desire HD, and the Inspire 4G also has more internal memory than the Desire.
Very similar, but not the same.
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RBarnett09 said:
The Inspire 4G is LTE ready where as the Desire is not. Also the Thunderbolt has more internal memory than the Desire HD, and the Inspire 4G also has more internal memory than the Desire.
Very similar, but not the same.
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It's definitely not LTE ready nor has a modem chipset that supports LTE. My friend owns one.
The also both have the same amount of memory (768mb). However, if you meant flash memory, then yes, it has more (4GB versus 1.5GB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Inspire_4G
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htc_desire_hd

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It's definitely not LTE ready nor has a modem chipset that supports LTE. My friend owns one.
The also both have the same amount of memory (768mb). However, if you meant flash memory, then yes, it has more (4GB versus 1.5GB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Inspire_4G
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htc_desire_hd
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Okay, you're right about the LTE on the Inspire. Thanks for clearing that up because I totally read up on that wrong.
Since the Desire HD has less flashable memory than the Thunderbolt, I think the Thunderbolt still holds that good chance of getting the ICS update.
Regardless, who knows what excuse they might come up with.
I know it won't be because it isn't capable of running on the Thunderbolt. Even the Inspire runs ICS. =l
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Just seems like because of flashable memory coming into play, the Inspire is technically closer to being a Thunderbolt than the Desire.
That's pretty much all I was saying.
Though barely a difference between the Inspire and Desire.
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Pretty sure the Desire HD and Inspire 4G are the exact same phone, other than the Inspire 4G has a second noise cancelling microphone and has a couple more radio frequencies it can run on. Some people say the Inspire has 4GB ROM and the DesireHD only has 1GB, but from what I understand they both only have 1GB for the system, which is why neither is getting an official ICS update.
Yes, the Inspire has ICS, and so does the DHD, but only because of developers that take the time to make the ROMs, neither phone is getting ICS from HTC.
What does this mean for the Thunderbolt? Who knows...but I believe it only has 1.5GB for system, which might be barely enough to get an ICS update installed, or might just not be enough.

It would be if they dumped Sense (fat chance).

One X+????

So if you haven't seen engadet or other sites there seems to be a HTC One X+ POSSIBLY coming to ATT and would be running stock Android 4.1.1 could this have been the reason for the recent price drop? Is it worth holding out on upgrading until this is all cleared up?

I really have to ask, but what else could they do to make this phone better?
Ship it with jelly bean? Cmon that's not going to be worth it, especially if its just a 'slightly' upgraded phone
The one x+ is going to be a tmobile phone, its going to have a quad core tegra with jelly bean, so its not an upgrade from ours. This phone beats out the tegra
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HTC make a stock google phone.. nope don't think so. Not with the "one" branding..
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The One X+ is meant for T-Mobile, with a higher clocked Tegra 3, might be a newer T3 chip as well.
But yes, it will be running stock, but available through T-Mobile. Will give a link if needed.
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I'm calling BS on it running stock.. earlier finds on hardware are more accurate however what its running software wise is pure speculation. If it's running aosp jellybean I'll dance naked down main street.
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Doesn't T-Mobile have a history of running vanilla versions of Android? Their G-Series phones (G1, G2/Vision) from HTC all had vanilla Android, maybe this will be their next G-Series phone?

Athrun88 said:
Doesn't T-Mobile have a history of running vanilla versions of Android? Their G-Series phones (G1, G2/Vision) from HTC all had vanilla Android, maybe this will be their next G-Series phone?
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No, they also like to have their sense phones run an espresso sense. Since our launchers already have this look then I'm sure its not going to be different, maybe they will include the theme engine... But that's hopefull thinking
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/03/rumored-htc-one-x-with-1-7ghz-tegra-3-revealed-in-nenamark-repo/
I totally forgot about their expresso line and myTouch line.. doh, thanks for clearing that.

Should be called the one x- because the tegra is not very good and we already have pretty stable AOSP jellybean
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Not sure why there's so much hate towards the tegra 3 processor? I personally have the dual core version and my girlfriend has the quad core; the quad core scores about 4500 pts higher.on anututu than mine. Everyday usage is the same, though I get lte where she can't, but she has 32gb storage and we have 16.
Point of my post is, why is there that much hate between the two variants?
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Athrun88 said:
Not sure why there's so much hate towards the tegra 3 processor? I personally have the dual core version and my girlfriend has the quad core; the quad core scores about 4500 pts higher.on anututu than mine. Everyday usage is the same, though I get lte where she can't, but she has 32gb storage and we have 16.
Point of my post is, why is there that much hate between the two variants?
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wow couldnt have said this better your right and the development and support the international version is getting is just so much better because they dont have to deal with att bull****
ans to the one who said we have a steady build of cm10 lol we dont trust me
we might soon but the devs are working their asses off and for every two steps they make forward at&t takes three steps back

The One X+ on AT&T would just be the international version with a slight overclock and an LTE radio, maybe a bigger battery. Not really all that great, and really it would be an awful move that would dilute the brand and create confusion due to the lack of a single flagship.
Now, if there was a One X on T-Mobile, that would be great, they don't have a true HTC flagship for this year.
The same would go for Verizon. They need a true HTC flagship phone, and preferably one that is just a Evo LTE in a different design.

Tmobile is said to be getting the hox+

nman123 said:
wow couldnt have said this better your right and the development and support the international version is getting is just so much better because they dont have to deal with att bull****
ans to the one who said we have a steady build of cm10 lol we dont trust me
we might soon but the devs are working their asses off and for every two steps they make forward at&t takes three steps back
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XD we have a really stable cm10. I don't need a camera. My device has lte and the s4 at least on jelly bean is way faster than the tegra. Also look on your phone. Are you constantly having to delete stuff to make space? Chances are nobody needs extra space in the age of cloud storage. If it was a very little difference then it wouldn't matter but the tegra was rushed together in order for them to say they had the first quad core processor. It's old and it's sloppily built.
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atticusmas said:
XD we have a really stable cm10. I don't need a camera. My device has lte and the s4 at least on jelly bean is way faster than the tegra. Also look on your phone. Are you constantly having to delete stuff to make space? Chances are nobody needs extra space in the age of cloud storage. If it was a very little difference then it wouldn't matter but the tegra was rushed together in order for them to say they had the first quad core processor. It's old and it's sloppily built.
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Yes I got to agree with you about the tegra 3 being rushed out, like a old car with a new engine duck taped in . Although about 16gb (more like 10gb) being enough data, I would say no. Yes, there is cloud but not everyone has a good/unlimited data plan (I only have 100mb for $50) which kinda counters the advantage of cloud technology.
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TheNightHawk223 said:
Yes I got to agree with you about the tegra 3 being rushed out, like a old car with a new engine duck taped in . Although about 16gb (more like 10gb) being enough data, I would say no. Yes, there is cloud but not everyone has a good/unlimited data plan (I only have 100mb for $50) which kinda counters the advantage of cloud technology.
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100MB FOR $50?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
What carrier are you using??? I cant BELIEVE that anyone could charge that much for 100MB
EDIT: You use AT&T in your sig...wth?

superchilpil said:
No, they also like to have their sense phones run an espresso sense. Since our launchers already have this look then I'm sure its not going to be different, maybe they will include the theme engine... But that's hopefull thinking
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No I think you are confusing the G-series with the Mytouch series. The MyTouch 4g had espresso sense, and the g2 had stock android 2.2
G1 was also pure google.

TheNightHawk223 said:
Yes I got to agree with you about the tegra 3 being rushed out, like a old car with a new engine duck taped in . Although about 16gb (more like 10gb) being enough data, I would say no. Yes, there is cloud but not everyone has a good/unlimited data plan (I only have 100mb for $50) which kinda counters the advantage of cloud technology.
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Ah. I forget that not everyone is as lucky as me-i got granfathered unlimited

TheNightHawk223 said:
Yes I got to agree with you about the tegra 3 being rushed out, like a old car with a new engine duck taped in . Although about 16gb (more like 10gb) being enough data, I would say no. Yes, there is cloud but not everyone has a good/unlimited data plan (I only have 100mb for $50) which kinda counters the advantage of cloud technology.
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Holy crap, I use over 100mb a DAY. On a slow day too.

aooga said:
100MB FOR $50?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
What carrier are you using??? I cant BELIEVE that anyone could charge that much for 100MB
EDIT: You use AT&T in your sig...wth?
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No I'm using telus, just bought my Hox down in the states because it's cheaper . It's the kind of crazy prices Canadians pay... :banghead: actually I cant WAIT for my 3 year contract to end... Then it's bye bye to Telus...
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