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Desire Z or Nexus S??

Should I trade in my Desire Z for the Nexus S?
I'm mostly after browser speed and everyday performance
What happened to the nexus sense port? I had a galaxy S before and it was always slower to the original desire but with ginger on the NS it just might do the trick.
Are you guys satisfied with the NS especially coming from other android devices?

If browsing speed is your priority, I would suggest you wait a bit. Currently the stock browser is rather laggy.

Laggy even with overclock, custom roms (cyanogen, nscollab and infinity) ?
Does cyanogen have the auto text reflow function?

I use my Nexus S since 3 months. It's fabulous.
Choose the right ROM and Kernel! It will be smoothest!
Great experience during 2 days without any charge or FC.

GNS is a very nice device. Buy GNS and flash CM, then enjoy)

Nexus S all the way. Desire Z is old news. I'd rather choose Desire S

Personally it was a bad idea to ask for an advice in a nexus s forum . lol.
anyway, a fair answer for me would be, there is no big deal of a difference between the 2 phones. If you were to buy one of these, then i would have said nexus s but since you already possess the dz, then no need to make the change. speedwise they are the same. the difference maybe comes from the gpu but you said you are only for browsing experience. i think you should stick to the dz until you get something better.
you do have amazing devs back there... i am sure finding a good custom rom is not a problem.

Just 3 hours ago, SuperAOSP Rom created by SUPERTAMEL, has changed the whole browser system
No more lagging issue, just pure enjoyment of browsing
I guess, you come to Nexus S in the right time

Development on the Desire Z has pretty much stalled with the keyboard being the biggest limitation. Even the Desire has better roms for gingerbread. I've owned a SGS before and the browser was indeed a little slow so I should expect performance to be on par to that. The SGS wasn't that bad but I switched to the Z mainly because of the LED flash which is very important to me as a flashlight
What ever happened to the NS sense port? I was looking at some vids over at youtube and they looked really smooth with some minor issues and non working features but nevertheless usable! Was the 0.3 build the one that caused the problem with the IMEI? What exactly happened?
What's the difference in real life performance between SuperAOSP, INfinity and Cyan?
Netarchy is the best kernal option available right? In layman's terms, what does proton voltage do and how do I know what settings to use?
Thanks for helping a NS noobie

kingofthebraves said:
Development on the Desire Z has pretty much stalled with the keyboard being the biggest limitation. Even the Desire has better roms for gingerbread. I've owned a SGS before and the browser was indeed a little slow so I should expect performance to be on par to that. The SGS wasn't that bad but I switched to the Z mainly because of the LED flash which is very important to me as a flashlight
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So Nexus S has the flash light you need, issue solve
What ever happened to the NS sense port? I was looking at some vids over at youtube and they looked really smooth with some minor issues and non working features but nevertheless usable! Was the 0.3 build the one that caused the problem with the IMEI? What exactly happened?
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Well, sadly that Samsung has put the most important file "EFS" at a very insecure place. And, we never realise that until we find that Nexus Sense has "wiped" the whole EFS data too, making all the IMEI number being the same
So far everyone is trying to get it fix, not a single news yet, but soon
What's the difference in real life performance between SuperAOSP, INfinity and Cyan?
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SUperAOSP, is the rom created with extra setting known as SupSetup
Infinity is created by Jonathan Griggs where he is very keen in ANdroid and added lots of different features.
Cyan 7 is the nightly build where different bugs and fixes are keep updated and fixed.
Kang's Cyan is the lighter and better version of Cyan 7.
Muiu is the Iphone version of Android (Use this rom if you like iOS interface)
Netarchy is the best kernal option available right? In layman's terms, what does proton voltage do and how do I know what settings to use?
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Netarchy or Trinity. Both are equally good.
Both has OC and UV kernel.
Proton voltage let you customize the voltage you wanna set for each frequency and it's only usable for Netarchy kernel.
No one is a noob, everyone is equal

I come from a desire and i am very much dissapointed in the browsing experience of this phone. It's not hardware accelerated so rendering flash content or bigger images is a pain. If your only looking for that, better stick with the desire z. I've tried all roms btw and I always end up using opera mobile.

lvnatic said:
I come from a desire and i am very much dissapointed in the browsing experience of this phone. It's not hardware accelerated so rendering flash content or bigger images is a pain. If your only looking for that, better stick with the desire z. I've tried all roms btw and I always end up using opera mobile.
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well opera mobile is awesome! I jus don't like how they setup Google search. other than that opera mobile makes browsing experience on the NS very smooth
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So no real difference in performance between cm7, kangs, infinity and superaosp except preference? What's the best rom for me if I need BLN and vibrate on call answer?
How do I know the best settings for photon? Or can I just use default?
Finally got my phone and this thing is wicked fast! I've never experienced a phone out of the box this good! Screen is yellowish as usual though Speakerphone volume is excellent as well!
Browser seems to be very good, not super fluid but good enough. Not as stuttery as my old SGS. Mighty tempted not to flash a custom rom because it's already very good!

Cm7 is recommended, it will change the experience totally and it has text reflow after zoom. I personally use the nightlies a lot but it's up to you, they might be laggy sometimes.

kingofthebraves said:
So no real difference in performance between cm7, kangs, infinity and superaosp except preference? What's the best rom for me if I need BLN and vibrate on call answer?
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Well, I would like you to try SUPERAOSP first, then only CM7
Netarchy Kernel or Trinity Kernel would do the job for your BLN and vibrate
How do I know the best settings for photon? Or can I just use default?
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Just use the suggested voltage.
Or you can use mine too.
I tested and using it for 3 weeks haven had any reboots or lag.
-100mv for 100,200,400,800mhz
-50mv for 1000,1200
1400mv for 1300
1450mv for 1400
Finally got my phone and this thing is wicked fast! I've never experienced a phone out of the box this good! Screen is yellowish as usual though Speakerphone volume is excellent as well!
Browser seems to be very good, not super fluid but good enough. Not as stuttery as my old SGS. Mighty tempted not to flash a custom rom because it's already very good!
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Use SUPERAOSP rom and use the browser, you will NEVER EVER COMPLAINT again

Thanks for the help guys really really big help I really really appreciate it!
The browser on superaosp is much smoother but I encountered some instances wherein it just would not scroll the page even after swiping the screen multiple times. Perhaps it's the way I swiped the screen? switching to my left hand which was holding the phone made it much better.
BLN and vibrate on answer working perfectly!

kingofthebraves said:
Thanks for the help guys really really big help I really really appreciate it!
The browser on superaosp is much smoother but I encountered some instances wherein it just would not scroll the page even after swiping the screen multiple times. Perhaps it's the way I swiped the screen? switching to my left hand which was holding the phone made it much better.
BLN and vibrate on answer working perfectly!
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Great that you like your Nexus S very much
We're all waiting for Nexus 3 to come out,
which is most likely to be LG Optimus XXXX
And, welcome to Nexus S

i prefer to go to Nexus S because it's the google son and you will see a great support

kingofthebraves said:
Should I trade in my Desire Z for the Nexus S?
I'm mostly after browser speed and everyday performance
What happened to the nexus sense port? I had a galaxy S before and it was always slower to the original desire but with ginger on the NS it just might do the trick.
Are you guys satisfied with the NS especially coming from other android devices?
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Im using Nexus S (from Globe) and I'm happy with it. I installed 2.3.4 the first day I got it.
The stock browser ain't bad actually, but I use Dolphin HD browser.

mbolinao said:
Im using Nexus S (from Globe) and I'm happy with it. I installed 2.3.4 the first day I got it.
The stock browser ain't bad actually, but I use Dolphin HD browser.
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Im pretty satisfied with this phone at the moment, with my headphones on this thing can produce way better audio than any HTC phone I have tried. Bass is booming and vocals are rich.
My only quip is the battery which never reaches 100 percent like my old SGS. A calibration should do the trick..I hope.

best i9003 rom like i9000

hi there,
im lookin for best rom for i9003 which is smooth as i9000. i used xxkb3, xeke1, jpke1,xxkp9, xxkp7 and xxkpe. non of them smooth like i9000. i used lagfix and also usin ext4 fs now. but still its not smooth. any suggest appreciate. thnx.
edit.correction.i9003->i9000

Try out XXKPH, If you are looking for a GB version and XXKB3 for Froyo..They are most stable versions..You do not need lagfix on KPH! It is pretty fast!!!

Isn't this a more general topic than a dev?

ozorens said:
hi there,
im lookin for best rom for i9003 which is smooth as i9003. i used xxkb3, xeke1, jpke1,xxkp9, xxkp7 and xxkpe. non of them smooth like i9000. i used lagfix and also usin ext4 fs now. but still its not smooth. any suggest appreciate. thnx.
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try custom roms which are free from samsung apps.

...Samsung apps has free ROMs?

Misledz said:
...Samsung apps has free ROMs?
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No, try custom rom without samsung applications
Wait new release of my rom if you want less samsung applications in your device

What about removing Maps, It eats up quite alot of RAM. Any noticable glitches with it removed?

I have removed many applications like swype, aldiko , layar and replaced music player with the latest miui player and 3d gallery with the motion 3d gallery and many more

hi again,
@Misledz,
i know it is not dev topic but there is no general page for i9003. thats why i write here, im sorry.
i use maps and i think it has to run smooth with those programs, it has 1ghz cpu.
guys those two phones have same cpu and i really dont understand how is that difference. my friend has i9000, he doesnt install any custom-new roms, lagfix, battery saver, ram cleaner etc. still no has lag.
but my i9003 has ext4, same cpu, battery saver, ram cleaner and still has lag.
im really tired to try roms, installin programs again and again.

Mine's stock - no root, no ext4, etc. and i'm not experiencing any lag on XXKPH. Get rid of the "battery saver" and "RAM cleaner" and see how you go i guess.

jamsori said:
Mine's stock - no root, no ext4, etc. and i'm not experiencing any lag on XXKPH. Get rid of the "battery saver" and "RAM cleaner" and see how you go i guess.
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Very true, those battery saver and clean up thingos drain battery and eat RAM and therefore slow your device down. Just keep a close eye on what you have running in the background (make running service shortcut on homescreen and stop apps you dont need at the time for example), have a simple taskkiller (i use advanced task killer) that autokills apps at user defined time intervals and close apps properly (using back-key and not homekey).
Should help a lot with the lag and increase batter time significantly.
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@ ozorens
dude both phones are different and the cpu of both phones are different

ok now i have fresh xxkph, cfroot and cwm. its not bad. but i didnt know i9000 and i9003 usin different cpu. so gsmarena gives wrong info.
thnx for everyone especialy kkrraazzyy for show me main problem. have to buy s2

[Q] Lag with new 4.0.4 ICS?

I'm suffering lag on my Nexus S i9020a after the OTA update to ICS. Most of the time the launcher lags when switching from page to page. However sometimes it will be completely fluid. It's strange... It goes away after boot but then it comes back again. I noticed that I don't get lag on the stock wallpapers..? Anyways, it's very frustrating. For example, right now my phone is running smoothly, but in a matter of minutes it will start to lag again..
Also I was rooted before the update and when I updated I lost root but still had the superuser app.. Could that have something to do with the lag or something?
Any help would be GREATLYappreciated.
THANKS

Anyone?? Please??

I never noticed stock 4.0.4 is smoother than 4.0.3 ... And 4.0.4 potentiolly slower a bit .... But for sure 4.0.3 was god damn smooth for me and no lag at all...BTW I don't keep too much stuffs and apps because I don like slow systems ... A reset to factory and wipe everything can be useful ...
And to tell you the truth , I am started to feel that this Nexus S is dying for me for its very inferior data capability , rediculus 200-300ms pings and awful DL and UL speed compaired to SII or the T mobile blaze 4G

mahanddeem said:
I never noticed stock 4.0.4 is smoother than 4.0.3 ... And 4.0.4 potentiolly slower a bit .... But for sure 4.0.3 was god damn smooth for me and no lag at all...BTW I don't keep too much stuffs and apps because I don like slow systems ... A reset to factory and wipe everything can be useful ...
And to tell you the truth , I am started to feel that this Nexus S is dying for me for its very inferior data capability , rediculus 200-300ms pings and awful DL and UL speed compaired to SII or the T mobile blaze 4G
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Yeah I tried a data reset.. and it didn't work. Is my Nexus S dying? Is that even possible lol?

Anyone having similar problems?

xda<3 said:
Anyone having similar problems?
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I just got 4.0.4 OTA and mine works great.

woolf4ever said:
I just got 4.0.4 OTA and mine works great.
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I did a reset twice and deleted the superuser app and it's much smoother. I also stopped killing processes and that helped a lot too. (when you hold down the home button and swipe to get rid of the task)
From my research, I concluded that killing tasks actually slows down the phone in the long run.

mahanddeem said:
I never noticed stock 4.0.4 is smoother than 4.0.3 ... And 4.0.4 potentiolly slower a bit .... But for sure 4.0.3 was god damn smooth for me and no lag at all...BTW I don't keep too much stuffs and apps because I don like slow systems ... A reset to factory and wipe everything can be useful ...
And to tell you the truth , I am started to feel that this Nexus S is dying for me for its very inferior data capability , rediculus 200-300ms pings and awful DL and UL speed compaired to SII or the T mobile blaze 4G
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My ping is 50-150 . And my download speeds are 500-1000 KB/s. Of course I'm on a different network.... Anyways back on topic... I haven't made the upgrade yet. Don't know if I want to ditch all of my amazing features and MODs for next to nothing.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Build 28)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 800/100 (Noop)
Live OC (100)
v6 Supercharged
Chainfire 3D (Force GPU)

xda<3 said:
I did a reset twice and deleted the superuser app and it's much smoother. I also stopped killing processes and that helped a lot too. (when you hold down the home button and swipe to get rid of the task)
From my research, I concluded that killing tasks actually slows down the phone in the long run.
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Hi! Android has a method to kill processes when it's necesary but installing programmes like "Task Killers" just slow down the system much more (because it stays open in the background) and contradict with the method of Android!
Regards,
Urko
PD: Made a little bit with Google Traductor, I'm 16 years old.. xD
EDIT: Can anyone thanks me? I can't release my Rom on the Dev section because I don't have 10 posts thanked!

urko95 said:
EDIT: Can anyone thanks me? I can't release my Rom on the Dev section because I don't have 10 posts thanked!
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Another thanks from me

After many test.
I have change my kernel for glados 2.11 Android 4.0.4
I have gain a performance and more stability. The official kernel are not optimised.
Nexus S : 4.0.4

urko95 said:
Hi! Android has a method to kill processes when it's necesary but installing programmes like "Task Killers" just slow down the system much more (because it stays open in the background) and contradict with the method of Android!
Regards,
Urko
PD: Made a little bit with Google Traductor, I'm 16 years old.. xD
EDIT: Can anyone thanks me? I can't release my Rom on the Dev section because I don't have 10 posts thanked!
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I didn't download a task killer, however I used the built in task viewer to kill the apps and instantly I received lag. Had to reset my whole phone because the lag wouldn't go away.

Frankly I think it's an ICS thing, I get a bit more lag with ICS on the screensaver and such for a brief second or two. It tends to go away pretty quickly though, and scrolling is usually pretty smooth.

xda<3 you seem to be a guy who likes to complain too much...You wanted ICS and now you got it ... Nexus S is a 17 month-old phone,thank god you have it and remember many similar devices or even better didn't...

Here I'm using Steve Garon's kernel, for my phone was the best choice. I'm also switched the original launcher to Apex, there is no lag when tapping the apps drawer and you can set landscape mode in homescreen, I really like it!
thedarkwolf said:
After many test.
I have change my kernel for glados 2.11 Android 4.0.4
I have gain a performance and more stability. The official kernel are not optimised.
Nexus S : 4.0.4
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He browser is incredibly when pages have a few photos... doing things like typing in a reply box on a forum becomes painful

mahanddeem said:
xda<3 you seem to be a guy who likes to complain too much...You wanted ICS and now you got it ... Nexus S is a 17 month-old phone,thank god you have it and remember many similar devices or even better didn't...
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15 months old***
I'm a perfectionist...and I can't change it. Sorry.

INKRO said:
Frankly I think it's an ICS thing, I get a bit more lag with ICS on the screensaver and such for a brief second or two. It tends to go away pretty quickly though, and scrolling is usually pretty smooth.
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Yeah hopefully.. hopefully it's not my phone acting up or anything. The worst lag I receive is when I open the app drawer. It's such a pain. It lags intensely for a couple of seconds and scrolling through the app drawer is a pain for the first few seconds. Hope this will be fixed in updates.

Try Apex launcher, quicker than stock and comes with tons of settings. I'm a perfectionist too and the lags when oppening the drawer and scrooling menus where gone.
xda<3 said:
Yeah hopefully.. hopefully it's not my phone acting up or anything. The worst lag I receive is when I open the app drawer. It's such a pain. It lags intensely for a couple of seconds and scrolling through the app drawer is a pain for the first few seconds. Hope this will be fixed in updates.
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Everything smooth except browsing

So I got myself a Galaxy Tab 2 7" after so much self convincing that I had the money for one. My first impression was not great though. The system menus were juddery and browsing on stock browser, Opera Mobile and Chrome were even worse.
After I compared my tab to a friend's same model I realised that this was as good as it would get. Curses Samsung and their bloat! What the heck have they done here?
So after two days I flashed to CM9 and saw the improvements immediately. System menus were rapid like I expected from a 1ghz dual core device and NOVA 3 basked in slippery wet graphics that turned a corner of my mouth into a defiant smirk.
But browsing? No.
There was a slight improvement to the fluidity in browsing with the stock browser, Opera Mobile and Chrome. But the experience can be annoying at times as the judder is still not acceptable. Okay, its more prominent when the webpage is still loading, but even when it's finished and there's another webpage loading in the background, the judder is still the same.
Some desktop sites force you to stop swiping until the device can catch its breath, that's after everything's loaded and flash and scripts are turned off. It doesn't make sense. Surely this little powerhouse can render HTML better than this?
Does anybody else see the same as I do and if so, is there a fix or work around for it? Its 1ghz of dual core power, for heaven's sake!

Try latest build of cm9 9.1 or try cm10 with project butter work good in this tab
Also try disable addons in browser setting (flash will not work) and see results you could return again and enable them
Also try in developer options force gpu rendering ticked
Also try metallice overclocked kernel you could flash cm again and remove it overwrite if you want
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Mohamedselim said:
Try latest build of cm9 9.1 or try cm10 with project butter work good in this tab
Also try disable addons in browser setting (flash will not work) and see results you could return again and enable them
Also try in developer options force gpu rendering ticked
Also try metallice overclocked kernel you could flash cm again and remove it overwrite if you want
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Which build are you using? CM9, CM9.1 or CM10? Do you get the experience I get?
I don't use addons as I am a minimalist and I tried Force GPU Rendering to no effect. Overclocking for me is a no-no as I just stick to stock CM.
Question is:- Does anybody else experience the same as me. Surely overclocking is a bit overkill when everything else is pucker?

I use cm10 latest build from www.teamhacksung.org for 5100 tab 2 and use overclocking kernel of cm10 just flashed the kernel it overclocks gpu a little and you could flash it and not overclock at all (only gpu not cpu) set cpu speed to 1008 mhz in setting/performance a little overclock not hurt much if device is hot will reboot
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DO NOT flash custom ROM because it will break your Gtab2 warranty.
seems you use 4.03, yes it lags alot.
But 4.04 is very smooth.
4.04 stock official from samsung updates, and it's smooth as butter. Browsing websites is very smooth indeed

Rotundjere said:
DO NOT flash custom ROM because it will break your Gtab2 warranty.
seems you use 4.03, yes it lags alot.
But 4.04 is very smooth.
4.04 stock official from samsung updates, and it's smooth as butter. Browsing websites is very smooth indeed
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4.0.4 is smoother but I still have some lag. Hopefully Jellybean will be released soon which should fix everything.

[Q] Why i9100G Touchwiz slow than i9100?

I have Galaxy s2(i9100G) with ICS 4.0.3.
My cousin has i9100 with Gingerbread 2.3.5...i have the latest os but why then my phone is not that smooth like i9100 ...it doesnt even uses that much GPU or CPU power....what can be the Problem ........help please....i know that i9100G is capped at 1008mhz or something but still that is much power why not smooth ?????????

I think you have some unwanted apps running in the background....does your thing have touchwiz too?

SunnyChrono6 said:
I think you have some unwanted apps running in the background....does your thing have touchwiz too?
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There are no Apps other than own samsung most of them i stoped but still the same ......and SGS 2 Does have Touchwiz .....my cousin 1 (i9100) is smooth even apps running in background

I think it's something to do with ICS.I noticed something like this on my overclocked wildfire s,but I attributed it to the phone being low-end.O/ced Gingerbread works fine,but ICS isn't too smooth.Try going back to Gingerbread for some time,and see how it works out.

SunnyChrono6 said:
I think it's something to do with ICS.I noticed something like this on my overclocked wildfire s,but I attributed it to the phone being low-end.O/ced Gingerbread works fine,but ICS isn't too smooth.Try going back to Gingerbread for some time,and see how it works out.
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I will try that .....