[Q] Complete noob question about flashing custom from stock ics - HTC Sensation

Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)

hexen88 said:
Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)
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Hi,
Are you still s-off?
If so,then backup your stuff,superwipe,and install a ROM from HERE
Read the [OP] to see what the ROM is all about.

I never been s-off ;(

hexen88 said:
I never been s-off ;(
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Hi,
In which case,head for THIS THREAD

There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
J....skdjhf?

hexen88 said:
There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
J....skdjhf?
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yes, only this method for now.
read it carefully

I'll be able to back to stock if needed? (To send it to service for ex.). It's really needed to change cid? IS there any custom rom with OTA?

Yes you need to change cid, yes you can change back if needed. Try out a few roms, see what you like they all are really great. It's just a matter of personal preference. I'm not understanding what you mean by Rom with ota. Over the air Rom? Or do you
Mean a Rom like the ota update? If so, yes there is. Hope this helps
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Rom that have system updates over the air, and notifications about update like stock rom, u know, i'm entering preferences > about > check updates.
I can't try few roms... This is my only one phone at now, and I really need it to work, that's why I want to change to some better rom than stock, and that's why I can't try few of them. You know - I don't have time to beeing angry to my current ROM, and also no time to try few of them

No with roms you won't get the ota updates , sorry
There are a lot of good stable roms, what exactly are you looking for?
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I'm using beats by grogg Rom, I like it a lot, WiFi hotspot are working great. What is it you don't like about your current Rom and maybe we can recommend one you will like I'm sure there's a Rom here you will be happy with!
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Hm, I don't really know... I like Sense, but maybe clear ICS have better features? If yes - I don't want Sense. I really liked quick settings when on GB rom, now I don't have wifi/bt switches, but I want to. I don't know what's more... I've never had any senseless ROM. But most important - I want ALL functions to be working. Sense 4... ahm, I fall in love with Sense 4
Help me to choose, pls. Battery is important too, and smooth. But I think smooth is very good on most future ROMS

Any1?

hexen88 said:
Any1?
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You can get s-off with the juopunutbear method. Which now does not need the htc dev-off, so htc does not know you are tinkering with your phone.
Returning your phone completely to stock can be done, but from what i've read it can be tricky as you must become S-ON again. (however, there is a unbrickable team here).
There is a way to flash with S-ON but it requires HTC DEV unlock, and for you to manually flash the boot.img, and keep the stock kernel. A noob myself i went for the whole S-OFF, lets bring it on experience.
From what I read on a local forum in my country, Ordroid gives you the sense 4 experience. And the developer regularly updates his / her rom.
Then again there is sense 4 from Baadnewz (insertcoin) and many more. A popular sense 3.6 rom is ARHD.
You can flash different kernels to increase your battery life.
As for the vanilla ICS, you can either go for CM9 (respect to Vorbeth) or the AOKP. The latter is based on the cm9 nightlies (i believe). I run such a rom. I love the vanilla looks and the added tweaks.
However, I believe recent nighlies have worse battery life. And there is an audio routing issue. For full reliability you might consisder those sense.

what's vanilla and aokp?

Please help?

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Want to get back to an official ROM

Hey,
i still can't get GPS Navigation for my Desire with Desire S Android 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROM from proxuser. I like the ROM, definetly.. but i need the navigation. So i decided to go back to an official release or ROM. But i don't know which is the best for me.. i found:
32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08
and
RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
By the way, i'm from germany..
in other words, i would like to have the latest official version of android and i hope that gps will work and the update to sense 3.0 is available for me.
if you can help me, many thanks for that!
meinFreund said:
Hey,
i still can't get GPS Navigation for my Desire with Desire S Android 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROM from proxuser. I like the ROM, definetly.. but i need the navigation. So i decided to go back to an official release or ROM. But i don't know which is the best for me.. i found:
32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08
and
RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
By the way, i'm from germany..
in other words, i would like to have the latest official version of android and i hope that gps will work and the update to sense 3.0 is available for me.
if you can help me, many thanks for that!
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the RUU u specified is the 1 to install if you want the sense 3 update and everything 100% stock
Ok,
just to make this safe
you mean RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
Do I also have to flash the Radio ? And what is AU ?
Do I flash the ROM same as costum roms?
meinFreund said:
Ok,
just to make this safe
you mean RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
Do I also have to flash the Radio ? And what is AU ?
Do I flash the ROM same as costum roms?
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yes that is the RUU to flash.
but before you do that u need to be sure you have bootloader ENG HBOOT-0.98.2000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
then you run the RUU.exe file on your pc and follow the on screen instructions.
this will return you completely to stock
Hi meinfreund,
What are the problems you are having with your navigation? I've been on VoidU and now MIUI and got my navigation running pretty well. Actually MIUI seems to be incredible with it's assisted GPS implemented settings.
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I also had gps problems on certain 2.3.5 roms. Couldn't get the gps icon to even appear in the notification bar. No error messages when turning gps on though. Sound like your problems?
No need to go back to stock. Try Coredroid or CM7. I can confirm both work with gps. Also perhaps try LeeDrOid. Very close to stock look and feel but with some nice tweaks. Gps also working there too.
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wnp_79 said:
I also had gps problems on certain 2.3.5 roms. Couldn't get the gps icon to even appear in the notification bar. No error messages when turning gps on though. Sound like your problems?
No need to go back to stock. Try Coredroid or CM7. I can confirm both work with gps. Also perhaps try LeeDrOid. Very close to stock look and feel but with some nice tweaks. Gps also working there too.
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the icon appears and i got gps far outside the city, but when i grabbed it the signal was lost. Had to put it in front of the car to get the signal, very sensitive. I resetted gps data many times but that didn't change anything.
Before i started flashing ROMs, it worked pretty fine, in the cities too.
Actually I think that all the ROMs that I tried are not faster or better than the Stock I had before. So i'm a bit confused about what doing next?!
LeedrOid and Coredroid are from August. Aren't they a bit outdated?
Does an update of the Base and Kernel might has positive effects to the gps?
Because ther is an update for Desire S Official Sense 3.0 - [GRJ90] [2.3.5] OTA 2.10.401.4
@mimirom:
I tried MIUI too, same problem here
meinFreund said:
Does an update of the Base and Kernel might has positive effects to the gps?
D
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For the signal reception ou have to try another radio.img
If you want navigation working why dont you use another stable ROMs like Virtuous Unity, VoidU1.1a etc. etc..
Reverting back to stock is something unusual after rooting. There are lot of candidates , Just pick one and hit the base..Keep Hitting
blindndumb said:
If you want navigation working why dont you use another stable ROMs like Virtuous Unity, VoidU1.1a etc. etc..
Reverting back to stock is something unusual after rooting. There are lot of candidates , Just pick one and hit the base..Keep Hitting
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I tried several Roms, always the same probs with gps.. thats the reason why i consider flashing back to stock.. i'd like to stay in costoum, but without Navigation i cant use it.
Eclipse_Droid said:
yes that is the RUU to flash.
but before you do that u need to be sure you have bootloader ENG HBOOT-0.98.2000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
then you run the RUU.exe file on your pc and follow the on screen instructions.
this will return you completely to stock
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thanx a lot
meinFreund said:
Hey,
i still can't get GPS Navigation for my Desire with Desire S Android 2.3.5 Sense 3.0 ROM from proxuser.
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Sry for the dump question but is it now a desire or desire s? If it is an desire your lucky that the only problem you got is GPS
Swyped from my Desire S
Tectas said:
Sry for the dump question but is it now a desire or desire s? If it is an desire your lucky that the only problem you got is GPS
Swyped from my Desire S
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Yo, it is an desire S
Read that Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 will be released soon, can anyone say how long it usually takes to get a release of a new version such as ICS 4?
Would like to test that as well
Hey,
I now flashed the Cyanogenmod 7.1 and have big trouble with that.
GPS does not work as well as with the other ROMS (GPS fix can't even "fix")
But there are some more difficulties.. i cant call or get called by someone, the Homebutton does not work (after flash, it worked.. but after shutdown it doesn't anymore)
Apart from these problems, this ROM is very fast and nice looking!
Does one of you have an idea how long it takes until a shipped ROM of ICS is available when its released?
Hi I have also cm7.1 since stable release and not having your problems. Just csipsimple has some isues. Did you do wipe cache and data? Did you restore via titanium? I restored BT pairings and had to begin since clean system, cause BT didn't work correctly. I would give a try to flash radio.
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meinFreund said:
Hey,
I now flashed the Cyanogenmod 7.1 and have big trouble with that.
GPS does not work as well as with the other ROMS (GPS fix can't even "fix")
But there are some more difficulties.. i cant call or get called by someone, the Homebutton does not work (after flash, it worked.. but after shutdown it doesn't anymore)
Apart from these problems, this ROM is very fast and nice looking!
Does one of you have an idea how long it takes until a shipped ROM of ICS is available when its released?
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in that case you should consider about the bad weather that can affect GPS receiver.
so you can try later whenever the weather becomes better?

Making the leap from GB to ICS??

This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
kingston73 said:
This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
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1. Radio is in the new firmware, RIL is in ICS ROMs already.
2. Yes, with latest builds there are virtually no bugs and they are fast and stable for daily drivers
If you want to flash back to GB you will just have to reflash firmware for GB
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kingston73 said:
This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
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1- the radio is included in the firmware.
2- Yes. I haven't encountered many bugs or any drawbacks.
3- Yes, you just have to flash the old firmware and and GB ROM
The switch to ICS is worth it.
Better performance, better battery life, better appearance.
I haven't run into serious bugs.
OP, at this stage I'm going to wait for the official release, it shouldn't be far away now.
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Just got my sensation last night and put Virtuous Inquisition on it straight away and I'm in love. Highly suggest making the upgrade.
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I have no clue why there are even GB ROMs still even out there. ICS is working flawlessly and it's better than GB in pretty much every way. Mindboggling how people still use them.
Better battery life is the biggest plus IMO.
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I have no clue why there are even GB ROMs still even out there. ICS is working flawlessly and it's better than GB in pretty much every way. Mindboggling how people still use them.
Better battery life is the biggest plus IMO.
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THIS!
IMHO there is absolutely no comparison between ICS and GB.It's like day and night.
You're all pretty convincing, maybe I'll actually try it out tonight. Have any of you gone back to GB after being on ICS? From all I've read it doesn't seem too complicated, just flash 1.17 back and I'm back to where I started, right?
EDIT:
I know two of you already told me the radio is included in the new firmware, but why does ARHD have links to both the firmware and the radio? I'm confused?
kingston73 said:
You're all pretty convincing, maybe I'll actually try it out tonight. Have any of you gone back to GB after being on ICS? From all I've read it doesn't seem too complicated, just flash 1.17 back and I'm back to where I started, right?
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Correct and i havent gone back, flashed ICS, made my own ROM and never looked back
NYCguy2020 said:
THIS!
IMHO there is absolutely no comparison between ICS and GB.It's like day and night.
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What version of ICS are you running?
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I would never go back to GB after having ICS (rmk40) with the latest firmware for 3 weeks!
Are you on Inquisition? No issues and all working?
I'm in the process of updating to Virtuous Inq. but I already have a question. The firmware I downloaded from Virtuous site but it says it's 1.23 in bootloader, is this the older firmware? Should I have used a different firmware?
its worth it simply from a battery life and GUI acceleration standpoint
from a speed standpoint, the biggest thing you can do is getting rid of Sense
Well, so far things are not going all that smoothly. I managed to get new firmware installed and installed virtuous inq but titanium backup is not being allowed root access. Any ideas??
kingston73 said:
Well, so far things are not going all that smoothly. I managed to get new firmware installed and installed virtuous inq but titanium backup is not being allowed root access. Any ideas??
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Clear superuser data and titanium data.
Open super user.and.make sure you have the latest binary installed.
For good measure restart phone.
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Ok, so I understand the process of flashing the firmware and installing a new ics rom.
What I don't get is how to go back to a GB rom, I am going to flash the 3.24 firmware so once I wanna go back what are the exact steps to use?
Flash old 1.17 firmware, go to recovery, use superwipe, then restore nandroid back up or what? Just wanna make sure do I don't brick my phone going back to GB, just in case I don't like the new ICS roms lol.
Thanks for any help!
moshe22 said:
What version of ICS are you running?
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I'm running Trip's latest CM9 version (ICS B004) and loving it.
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I'm running Trip's latest CM9 version (ICS B004) and loving it.
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Trip's latest is B005, just letting you know.

[q] why is everyone excited about ota ics

Seems like everyone was complaining, saying the OTA was never coming and now that it is here they are complaining again. Why would you want to go back to stock, just so you can get the official release when it is for sure filled with a bunch of things you don't want or need (apps bloatware) then you are going to root it and go flash a custom ROM anyways. I am on Energy GB ROM and I am really hesitant to flash to ICS because this ROM works so well. When I was stock I would get restarts, Sense would constantly reload and a bunch of other things. I don't want to have to flash a ROM then flash a bunch of fixes after just to make it stable just to have ICS on my device. Sorry just wanted to make a few points. If anyone could post some key features of the Official OTA ICS Update and why it would be better than a custom ROM I would appreciate it.
Final question. How many of you reverted back to stock just get the OTA and what is so cool about it?
I am wondering the same thing.. what does stock OTA ICS have over custom roms?
The only two things I can think of is (1) keeping warranty, and (2) more stability since it's an official update
A lot of times the custom roms are more stable. The GB rom I am running is a lot smoother and more stable than when I got my sensation out of the box.
I agree, on stock I would be having the device reboot all the time! Drove me Crazy!
On my custom Rom, it has NEVER done that! So I say pass on the update also! I'm running Android 4.0.3 now with custom rom, why ruin a good thing i say!
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Here's one reason: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26117743
It's not always that people are looking to apply the stock rom, but sometimes what pieces they can get from it.
LOL, good point but besides working wifi calling.
my Wi-Fi calling is working on my custom Rom, as is camera, hotspot, tethering ect. I've checked them all. I'm greatful all working! These developers are Genius! I am soo thankful for them!
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realsis said:
my Wi-Fi calling is working on my custom Rom, as is camera, hotspot, tethering ect. I've checked them all. I'm greatful all working! These developers are Genius! I am soo thankful for them!
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How do you compare the camera on the stock GB compared to the camera on your ROM now.I love the amaze camera mod on this NRG ROM.
I myself had actually considered reverting back to stock from sensation 4g running virtuous 4.02 ics, but that was only so I could get my WiFi calling back, and to see if it was any more stable..... But then I realized that since I flashed Virtuous Inquisition, I haven't had ANY problems at all, and now there's a fix for WiFi calling, so I can't imagine why I would go back to stock. Phew, I'm glad I came to my SENSEs before doing something I probably would ended up regretting, and then spending time to have to revert and re-root.
Custom roms ain't all they're cracked up to be. Too many issues. I'm on stock and rooted and it works just fine. I don't see what's so great about custom roms. Eye candy? Custom boot animations? I would rather have stability and reliability.
Kevc44485 said:
Custom roms ain't all they're cracked up to be. Too many issues. I'm on stock and rooted and it works just fine. I don't see what's so great about custom roms. Eye candy? Custom boot animations? I would rather have stability and reliability.
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I think that it's not as much about the eyecandy, so to speak, but more to do with the fine tuning and tweaks available in the custom roms that you just can't get with stock. There's nothing wrong with anyone leaning one way or the other, just a matter of preference and of what you use the phone for.

Help me make my mind up!

Hi,
I'm, obviously, an owner of an HTC Desire S running stock software (Android 2.3.5, HTC Sense 3.0) and waiting for an upgrade :/
I'd really like to try a custom ROM but loosing stability or functionality would most likely cause me a lot of daily problems.
Is there a custom ROM out there that has no troubles with everything working on a stable basis? Or should I just wait, wait, and wait for that update?
if your not sure you want to root, simple answer is don't.
stability is a relative term. if we have 1000 people, we also got 1000 different opinions what "stable" is. so i'm affraid you'll have to decide for yourself.
You can try Fallout, with sense 4.0, but then you loose the 3d-flip-clock and other nice graphics, that still are within sense 3.6.
But 3.6 is very cpu-intensive, so you miss some snappyness and battery time.
So the choice will be snappy and more power with fallout or virtous, or nice with ice-ds or icsaga.
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I suggest trying Fallout (Sense 4A, just wifi tethering not working) or Endymion (Sense 3.5, rock solid, in my opinion more stable than stock). But before, plz read the threads about rooting flashing etc to avoid bad surprises.
Abdiou said:
Hi,
I'm, obviously, an owner of an HTC Desire S running stock software (Android 2.3.5, HTC Sense 3.0) and waiting for an upgrade :/
I'd really like to try a custom ROM but loosing stability or functionality would most likely cause me a lot of daily problems.
Is there a custom ROM out there that has no troubles with everything working on a stable basis? Or should I just wait, wait, and wait for that update?
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i know the feeling but my advice is if your not familiar with rooting, unrooting and odin i would just wait cause it would suck if you brick your device. Also if it you can find a used version of your phone for cheap with a clean esn then you could test or even mess around with thing until you become familiar and test any rom you wish before flashing it on your original device that you use on a daily basis...hope this helps
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Try Ice Cold Sandwich. Pretty stable, only bug is the wrong inversion of the front cam. Also, a clean vanilla android is more attractive than sense
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if you want something stable, go for the GB Roms, nothing with ics is truly stable until we get the kernel, the best GB Rom I've used is reaper, if you really want too to do it then that's probably your best starter Rom. Not a sense based one though. If you want sense have a read of the Rom threads. I got rid of sense and havnt looked back.
i'm going through the exact same thing. I'm totally impressed with all the rooting, modding and custom rom stuff but something makes me uncomfortable trying it. I will see how the thread is developing
Sehe said:
i'm going through the exact same thing. I'm totally impressed with all the rooting, modding and custom rom stuff but something makes me uncomfortable trying it. I will see how the thread is developing
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Just start little a used phone that works or even a galaxy mp3 player. I started with the vzw tablet and bought a used phone from swappa. Its fun to flash and test someones hard work i owe alot to this community cause i sure learned alot...
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when you succsesfully root your phone and want to try different roms it's crucial that you become familliar with nandroid backup. you do nandroid backup in your recovery just before you flash the new rom. it saves the current (fully configured) system to your sdcard and you can always come back if you do not want to use the newly flashed rom anymore. you do nandroid backup of all tested roms that you liked and save yourself time and pain of flashing and configuring them again and again every time.
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when you succsesfully root your phone and want to try different roms it's crucial that you become familliar with nandroid backup. you do nandroid backup in your recovery just before you flash the new rom. it saves the current (fully configured) system to your sdcard and you can always come back if you do not want to use the newly flashed rom anymore. you do nandroid backup of all tested roms that you liked and save yourself time and pain of flashing and configuring them again and again every time.
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+1 for backup. Titanium backup is also a must for me, the free one is good but it's well worth paying for the full app.
I like to play with alternative roms, so i have taken the step to root. But to be true. The only real improvement for me is to get rid of adds and to get rid off sense. The stock rom was good enough though.
I have read a lot before i taken the step. I have made a list wat was important. Here it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30004373
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Thank you so much guys for your replies.
Now, I'm sure that I want to use a custom ROM, not sure witch one yet, but my choice will be either Fallout or ICE with no Sense.
Gonna read as much as I can and let you know guys.
Please keep on replying as it's really helpful for me, and maybe others like me..
P.S. I'm not quite sure what are the steps to properly backup then install a custom ROM, a little help with that too would be much appreciated, but I'm quite sure a guide exist here somewhere ^^

Root with stock ROM?

Hi,
I'm a DHD user, I bought this phone to my brother..
The stock ROM is awsome and pretty perfect (and damn ultra fast).. but still I miss some functions of rooted devices..
Is it possible to root without installing a different ROM?
If I'll just follow the guide in the top and won't flash new ROM, will it erase data or wipe anything?
Thanks,
Yarden.
P.S
Do you also think that the stock ROM is good enough or custom ROMs has some amazing stuffs that I'm missing?
Cuz in our DHD, stock is on GB with crappy sense 3.0 so improving to custom brings me to ICS with sense 4.0 and full tweaks so dumb the guy who keeps warranty swear..
But here I already have the latest thing (JB isn't stable enough to jump4it), so.....
Just ask yourself do you really need root. If not then stick with stock. If yes you can have root on stock as well, doesn't have to be custom Rom, but you will have to unlock bootloader first and then flash boot.img, just follow the guides.
Or... You can try Viper Rom which is on Sense 4.1 and it can be same as stock if you don't apply any tweaks, or fully customised. Your choice.
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Oh thanks for your reply.
I guess my answer is no, I don't need root so much,
Honestly I just wanted to delete the at&t crap that installed and perhaps few apps that needs root for expert moves.. (like Google Now)
I assume from your saying that it could harm the device or its efficiency, so no, any way its for my old brother who knows pretty much nothing about this game..
Thanks.
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Did you follow this guide??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
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