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Rooted today, before I flash,

I ugraded to the Sensation from the original MyTouch 3g. When I rooted and flashed froyo, especially Cyanogenmod, I was no longer able to send MMS. Will this happen with my Sensation? The guy in the T-Mobile store said it was because the Mytouch was never meant to handle Froyo, so is that just it? Or should I not flash a custom rom?

ccls1997 said:
I ugraded to the Sensation from the original MyTouch 3g. When I rooted and flashed froyo, especially Cyanogenmod, I was no longer able to send MMS. Will this happen with my Sensation? The guy in the T-Mobile store said it was because the Mytouch was never meant to handle Froyo, so is that just it? Or should I not flash a custom rom?
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Every custom rom has its quirks, most of the sensation roms are really stable, just make sure you have the appropriate kernal (which is most the time included in the rom itself) as well as the right firmware. If something doesn't work its likely that someone has had your same problem and it has already been fixed just search around. I am running vipers 1.1.0 sense 4.0 and it is great, the only thing that doesn't work is MHL (HDMI out) but not many people use that anyway. Here is the link for that rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671547
Hit thanks if I helped.

I've ran just about every custom Rom for ICS there is and I've never had issues like that. Read the change logs of the developers and they will tell you EXACTLY what is working and what is not working. Most of the time mms is always working. Custom roms for the sensation have proven to be much more stable than stock roms and that's a fact! Sometimes the representatives of the providers love to tell you that there are incompatibility issues with roms when in fact they are wrong! Once I had a representative tell me custom roms are not updated or supported like stock roms what a joke that is. My roms have more support and updates than I've EVER seen with stock! When I was running stock I had force closes and random reboots all the time, I have NEVER had that on my custom Rom ! Also if an issue does arise the developers are right there and the community is eager to help resolve the problem! Oh yes I do recommend rooting! With stock your forgotten, with rooting you have a wonderful support system ! Also with rooting you can truly make your device your own with tons of customization ! I don't regret it for a second! I say go for it! Hope this helps!
Sometimes issues will arise with a Rom but usually can be worked out with a solution from the community. Remember to read the change logs this way you know exactly what your getting when flashing a Rom. The developers are very open when it comes to issues . I think you will be very happy with custom roms. Try several until you find one that fits your style and personal needs. Best of luck.
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Making the leap from GB to ICS??

This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?

kingston73 said:
This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
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1. Radio is in the new firmware, RIL is in ICS ROMs already.
2. Yes, with latest builds there are virtually no bugs and they are fast and stable for daily drivers
If you want to flash back to GB you will just have to reflash firmware for GB
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kingston73 said:
This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
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1- the radio is included in the firmware.
2- Yes. I haven't encountered many bugs or any drawbacks.
3- Yes, you just have to flash the old firmware and and GB ROM

The switch to ICS is worth it.
Better performance, better battery life, better appearance.
I haven't run into serious bugs.

OP, at this stage I'm going to wait for the official release, it shouldn't be far away now.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

Just got my sensation last night and put Virtuous Inquisition on it straight away and I'm in love. Highly suggest making the upgrade.
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I have no clue why there are even GB ROMs still even out there. ICS is working flawlessly and it's better than GB in pretty much every way. Mindboggling how people still use them.
Better battery life is the biggest plus IMO.

wifesabitch said:
I have no clue why there are even GB ROMs still even out there. ICS is working flawlessly and it's better than GB in pretty much every way. Mindboggling how people still use them.
Better battery life is the biggest plus IMO.
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THIS!
IMHO there is absolutely no comparison between ICS and GB.It's like day and night.

You're all pretty convincing, maybe I'll actually try it out tonight. Have any of you gone back to GB after being on ICS? From all I've read it doesn't seem too complicated, just flash 1.17 back and I'm back to where I started, right?
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I know two of you already told me the radio is included in the new firmware, but why does ARHD have links to both the firmware and the radio? I'm confused?

kingston73 said:
You're all pretty convincing, maybe I'll actually try it out tonight. Have any of you gone back to GB after being on ICS? From all I've read it doesn't seem too complicated, just flash 1.17 back and I'm back to where I started, right?
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Correct and i havent gone back, flashed ICS, made my own ROM and never looked back

NYCguy2020 said:
THIS!
IMHO there is absolutely no comparison between ICS and GB.It's like day and night.
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What version of ICS are you running?
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I would never go back to GB after having ICS (rmk40) with the latest firmware for 3 weeks!

Are you on Inquisition? No issues and all working?

I'm in the process of updating to Virtuous Inq. but I already have a question. The firmware I downloaded from Virtuous site but it says it's 1.23 in bootloader, is this the older firmware? Should I have used a different firmware?

its worth it simply from a battery life and GUI acceleration standpoint
from a speed standpoint, the biggest thing you can do is getting rid of Sense

Well, so far things are not going all that smoothly. I managed to get new firmware installed and installed virtuous inq but titanium backup is not being allowed root access. Any ideas??

kingston73 said:
Well, so far things are not going all that smoothly. I managed to get new firmware installed and installed virtuous inq but titanium backup is not being allowed root access. Any ideas??
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Clear superuser data and titanium data.
Open super user.and.make sure you have the latest binary installed.
For good measure restart phone.
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Ok, so I understand the process of flashing the firmware and installing a new ics rom.
What I don't get is how to go back to a GB rom, I am going to flash the 3.24 firmware so once I wanna go back what are the exact steps to use?
Flash old 1.17 firmware, go to recovery, use superwipe, then restore nandroid back up or what? Just wanna make sure do I don't brick my phone going back to GB, just in case I don't like the new ICS roms lol.
Thanks for any help!

moshe22 said:
What version of ICS are you running?
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I'm running Trip's latest CM9 version (ICS B004) and loving it.

NYCguy2020 said:
I'm running Trip's latest CM9 version (ICS B004) and loving it.
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Trip's latest is B005, just letting you know.

[Q] Complete noob question about flashing custom from stock ics

Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)

hexen88 said:
Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)
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Hi,
Are you still s-off?
If so,then backup your stuff,superwipe,and install a ROM from HERE
Read the [OP] to see what the ROM is all about.

I never been s-off ;(

hexen88 said:
I never been s-off ;(
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Hi,
In which case,head for THIS THREAD

There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
J....skdjhf?

hexen88 said:
There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
J....skdjhf?
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yes, only this method for now.
read it carefully

I'll be able to back to stock if needed? (To send it to service for ex.). It's really needed to change cid? IS there any custom rom with OTA?

Yes you need to change cid, yes you can change back if needed. Try out a few roms, see what you like they all are really great. It's just a matter of personal preference. I'm not understanding what you mean by Rom with ota. Over the air Rom? Or do you
Mean a Rom like the ota update? If so, yes there is. Hope this helps
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Rom that have system updates over the air, and notifications about update like stock rom, u know, i'm entering preferences > about > check updates.
I can't try few roms... This is my only one phone at now, and I really need it to work, that's why I want to change to some better rom than stock, and that's why I can't try few of them. You know - I don't have time to beeing angry to my current ROM, and also no time to try few of them

No with roms you won't get the ota updates , sorry
There are a lot of good stable roms, what exactly are you looking for?
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I'm using beats by grogg Rom, I like it a lot, WiFi hotspot are working great. What is it you don't like about your current Rom and maybe we can recommend one you will like I'm sure there's a Rom here you will be happy with!
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Hm, I don't really know... I like Sense, but maybe clear ICS have better features? If yes - I don't want Sense. I really liked quick settings when on GB rom, now I don't have wifi/bt switches, but I want to. I don't know what's more... I've never had any senseless ROM. But most important - I want ALL functions to be working. Sense 4... ahm, I fall in love with Sense 4
Help me to choose, pls. Battery is important too, and smooth. But I think smooth is very good on most future ROMS

Any1?

hexen88 said:
Any1?
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You can get s-off with the juopunutbear method. Which now does not need the htc dev-off, so htc does not know you are tinkering with your phone.
Returning your phone completely to stock can be done, but from what i've read it can be tricky as you must become S-ON again. (however, there is a unbrickable team here).
There is a way to flash with S-ON but it requires HTC DEV unlock, and for you to manually flash the boot.img, and keep the stock kernel. A noob myself i went for the whole S-OFF, lets bring it on experience.
From what I read on a local forum in my country, Ordroid gives you the sense 4 experience. And the developer regularly updates his / her rom.
Then again there is sense 4 from Baadnewz (insertcoin) and many more. A popular sense 3.6 rom is ARHD.
You can flash different kernels to increase your battery life.
As for the vanilla ICS, you can either go for CM9 (respect to Vorbeth) or the AOKP. The latter is based on the cm9 nightlies (i believe). I run such a rom. I love the vanilla looks and the added tweaks.
However, I believe recent nighlies have worse battery life. And there is an audio routing issue. For full reliability you might consisder those sense.

what's vanilla and aokp?

Please help?

Help me make my mind up!

Hi,
I'm, obviously, an owner of an HTC Desire S running stock software (Android 2.3.5, HTC Sense 3.0) and waiting for an upgrade :/
I'd really like to try a custom ROM but loosing stability or functionality would most likely cause me a lot of daily problems.
Is there a custom ROM out there that has no troubles with everything working on a stable basis? Or should I just wait, wait, and wait for that update?

if your not sure you want to root, simple answer is don't.

stability is a relative term. if we have 1000 people, we also got 1000 different opinions what "stable" is. so i'm affraid you'll have to decide for yourself.

You can try Fallout, with sense 4.0, but then you loose the 3d-flip-clock and other nice graphics, that still are within sense 3.6.
But 3.6 is very cpu-intensive, so you miss some snappyness and battery time.
So the choice will be snappy and more power with fallout or virtous, or nice with ice-ds or icsaga.
Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk

I suggest trying Fallout (Sense 4A, just wifi tethering not working) or Endymion (Sense 3.5, rock solid, in my opinion more stable than stock). But before, plz read the threads about rooting flashing etc to avoid bad surprises.

Abdiou said:
Hi,
I'm, obviously, an owner of an HTC Desire S running stock software (Android 2.3.5, HTC Sense 3.0) and waiting for an upgrade :/
I'd really like to try a custom ROM but loosing stability or functionality would most likely cause me a lot of daily problems.
Is there a custom ROM out there that has no troubles with everything working on a stable basis? Or should I just wait, wait, and wait for that update?
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i know the feeling but my advice is if your not familiar with rooting, unrooting and odin i would just wait cause it would suck if you brick your device. Also if it you can find a used version of your phone for cheap with a clean esn then you could test or even mess around with thing until you become familiar and test any rom you wish before flashing it on your original device that you use on a daily basis...hope this helps
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Try Ice Cold Sandwich. Pretty stable, only bug is the wrong inversion of the front cam. Also, a clean vanilla android is more attractive than sense
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if you want something stable, go for the GB Roms, nothing with ics is truly stable until we get the kernel, the best GB Rom I've used is reaper, if you really want too to do it then that's probably your best starter Rom. Not a sense based one though. If you want sense have a read of the Rom threads. I got rid of sense and havnt looked back.

i'm going through the exact same thing. I'm totally impressed with all the rooting, modding and custom rom stuff but something makes me uncomfortable trying it. I will see how the thread is developing

Sehe said:
i'm going through the exact same thing. I'm totally impressed with all the rooting, modding and custom rom stuff but something makes me uncomfortable trying it. I will see how the thread is developing
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Just start little a used phone that works or even a galaxy mp3 player. I started with the vzw tablet and bought a used phone from swappa. Its fun to flash and test someones hard work i owe alot to this community cause i sure learned alot...
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when you succsesfully root your phone and want to try different roms it's crucial that you become familliar with nandroid backup. you do nandroid backup in your recovery just before you flash the new rom. it saves the current (fully configured) system to your sdcard and you can always come back if you do not want to use the newly flashed rom anymore. you do nandroid backup of all tested roms that you liked and save yourself time and pain of flashing and configuring them again and again every time.

toxic-hero said:
when you succsesfully root your phone and want to try different roms it's crucial that you become familliar with nandroid backup. you do nandroid backup in your recovery just before you flash the new rom. it saves the current (fully configured) system to your sdcard and you can always come back if you do not want to use the newly flashed rom anymore. you do nandroid backup of all tested roms that you liked and save yourself time and pain of flashing and configuring them again and again every time.
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+1 for backup. Titanium backup is also a must for me, the free one is good but it's well worth paying for the full app.

I like to play with alternative roms, so i have taken the step to root. But to be true. The only real improvement for me is to get rid of adds and to get rid off sense. The stock rom was good enough though.
I have read a lot before i taken the step. I have made a list wat was important. Here it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30004373
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Thank you so much guys for your replies.
Now, I'm sure that I want to use a custom ROM, not sure witch one yet, but my choice will be either Fallout or ICE with no Sense.
Gonna read as much as I can and let you know guys.
Please keep on replying as it's really helpful for me, and maybe others like me..
P.S. I'm not quite sure what are the steps to properly backup then install a custom ROM, a little help with that too would be much appreciated, but I'm quite sure a guide exist here somewhere ^^

[Q] Is there any 100% stable Rom available for Desire S?

Is there any 100% stable rom available for Desire S? Ive been searching for it and found so many out there but everyone is complaining about every rom out there, complaining about wifi or camera or restarting issues are these roms meant to be unstable or they are supposed to be like stock one? can anyone please tell or guide regarding ICS or Jelly Bean rom i can get without getting in trouble as ive never ported my phone before, thanks!

There is nothing in the whole wide world nobody is complaining about.
To topic: there are roms that are way better than stock. Most people having issues don't know what they are doing.

I've used most roms and most stable 3 are cm7 ,virtuous unity and fallout
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Fully stable ROMs that I've used and liked are:
Gingerbread (Android 2.3):
Endymion
Reaper
Cyanogenmod 7
Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0)
ICE_DS 4.3 (fully working!)
Fallout (not 100%, missing wifi tethering, but every single other thing works).
Hope this helps!

you mentioned ICE_DS 4.3 (fully working!) can you send me the link from where i can get the guide and download it? I've stock 2.3.5 on my Desire S with Sense 3.0, thanks!

i found this is this right:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567715

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the following stable ROMs?:
Cyanogenmod 7
Endymion
Fallout
Reaper
Virtuous Unity
Alternatively, where can I find a straight forward comparison of them?

zurpher said:
What are the advantages and disadvantages of the following stable ROMs?:
Cyanogenmod 7
Endymion
Fallout
Reaper
Virtuous Unity
Alternatively, where can I find a straight forward comparison of them?
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try it yourself.
Don't let other ppl's preference determine what suites you, if I ever did that then i would be stucked at rom A, and i wouldnt even bother to try rom B.
Even though i read that there were many issue with rom C i still tried it out, and the issues they mention didn't appear in my phone. So my current rom is now rom D.
So then rom B had an update, so i back-up my current rom then restore rom B then updated it. I didnt like it so i went on to try rom E which was one of the lattest developement.
Take ur time to try it all, because once u tried everything u will get bored as i am now and just waiting for the lastest update to come.

rain987 said:
try it yourself.
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I'm pretty conservative when it comes to changing ROMs.
I know that CyanogenMod 7 comes with integrated OpenVPN and WiFi tethering if I recall correctly. I consider these two features as quite desirable. I assume that Endymion and Reaper have that too as they are based on CM7, right? Apparently, Reaper is not based on the stable CM 7.2 release but then, on the other hand, it has been advocated as very stable. So, why has the developer then promised a final release?
I'm scared of losing my apps and data when changing ROMs. What ways do you guys use to ensure that your can restore everything to working order after you've flashed your new ROM?

Titanium backup...
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Does the free version of TB suffice?
Any recommendable TB beginners guides out there?

yes, perfectly good enough. You just won't have the batch function. But it's easy to use and has a simple ui. I will say this though, if your going to be flashing roms regularly then it is more than worth paying for the full app, I paid for tb and Rom manager on the day I unlocked my bootloader, and haven't once thought that maybe I shouldn't have
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Virtuous Infinity
Virtuous Infinity v1.33.0 Alpha3 looks good with very few bugs and it offers full Sense 4.0 support I will try this tomorrow lets see how it goes, I hope it will turn out good!!

sMhsn said:
Is there any 100% stable rom available for Desire S?
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Use HTC stock ROM
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Well, in that case, stock Rom suits best for u. IMHO, the loveliest part of Rom developing is that someone found issues and someone trying to fix it. That's what Android Dev really is. And I enjoy using all kinds of Roms developed by those awesome HTC Saga developers. Every Rom has some bugs, and it doesn't matter if they don't affect your daily use. Enjoy them I'm currently using CM10 by nexx. Rant too much...:banghead:
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Another Vote for Ice DS
Version 4.4 + the new tweaked kernel = a big improvement over 4.3.
As a based-on-stock rom I think it' the choice for you.

maxlieb said:
Another Vote for Ice DS
Version 4.4 + the new tweaked kernel = a big improvement over 4.3.
As a based-on-stock rom I think it' the choice for you.
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thanks man, downloading right now...I've been searching for two weeks I guess, but now I have decided finally I have to take a chance

BillGoss said:
Use HTC stock ROM
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I don't agree with that.
I had to disable the SIM-code, because every couple of days, my HTC crashed and Restarted.
(if you don't know that, you don't get call's because of the simcard-code).
That was the reason I bought a new smartphone (xperia U).
Since the HTC was in my desk-drawer, I began to experiment with rooting/changing ROM
Now I have fall-out for 2 weeks now, and my phone hasn't crashed 1 time.
So for me, custom ROMS are more stable than the stock one. (and faster, smoother, ...)
It just feels like a whole new phone.

Anybody knows witch ROM is the best for Battery Life ?
It should be ICS and Sense 4.0 ... At the Moment i have the "Project X" installed

Try ice ds...I am getting on an average close to four hours of screen time on a full charge...that's the max I have ever gotten on any Rom ics or gb...
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