Making the leap from GB to ICS?? - HTC Sensation

This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?

kingston73 said:
This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
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1. Radio is in the new firmware, RIL is in ICS ROMs already.
2. Yes, with latest builds there are virtually no bugs and they are fast and stable for daily drivers
If you want to flash back to GB you will just have to reflash firmware for GB
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kingston73 said:
This is mainly for the people who've made the jump from GB to any current ICS rom, biggest question is: was it worth it?
I've read up on all the steps and understand the firmware changing, but am still very hesitant to make the change. Some of my largest concerns:
1. after changing to the new firmware do I also need to change my radio and/or ril's to match a specific rom?
2. do the benefits of ICS outweigh the bugs and drawbacks?
For me, my priorities are having good picture quality, a working video camera, working wifi, and above all else having GOOD and QUICK gps lock.
Would any of the ICS roms be better or worse for me to try given my listed priorities?
My final question, I currently have 1.17 hboot, if I flash the new firmware and decide I want to go back to GB is it a simple process to just re-flash 1.17?
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1- the radio is included in the firmware.
2- Yes. I haven't encountered many bugs or any drawbacks.
3- Yes, you just have to flash the old firmware and and GB ROM

The switch to ICS is worth it.
Better performance, better battery life, better appearance.
I haven't run into serious bugs.

OP, at this stage I'm going to wait for the official release, it shouldn't be far away now.
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Just got my sensation last night and put Virtuous Inquisition on it straight away and I'm in love. Highly suggest making the upgrade.
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I have no clue why there are even GB ROMs still even out there. ICS is working flawlessly and it's better than GB in pretty much every way. Mindboggling how people still use them.
Better battery life is the biggest plus IMO.

wifesabitch said:
I have no clue why there are even GB ROMs still even out there. ICS is working flawlessly and it's better than GB in pretty much every way. Mindboggling how people still use them.
Better battery life is the biggest plus IMO.
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THIS!
IMHO there is absolutely no comparison between ICS and GB.It's like day and night.

You're all pretty convincing, maybe I'll actually try it out tonight. Have any of you gone back to GB after being on ICS? From all I've read it doesn't seem too complicated, just flash 1.17 back and I'm back to where I started, right?
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I know two of you already told me the radio is included in the new firmware, but why does ARHD have links to both the firmware and the radio? I'm confused?

kingston73 said:
You're all pretty convincing, maybe I'll actually try it out tonight. Have any of you gone back to GB after being on ICS? From all I've read it doesn't seem too complicated, just flash 1.17 back and I'm back to where I started, right?
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Correct and i havent gone back, flashed ICS, made my own ROM and never looked back

NYCguy2020 said:
THIS!
IMHO there is absolutely no comparison between ICS and GB.It's like day and night.
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What version of ICS are you running?
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I would never go back to GB after having ICS (rmk40) with the latest firmware for 3 weeks!

Are you on Inquisition? No issues and all working?

I'm in the process of updating to Virtuous Inq. but I already have a question. The firmware I downloaded from Virtuous site but it says it's 1.23 in bootloader, is this the older firmware? Should I have used a different firmware?

its worth it simply from a battery life and GUI acceleration standpoint
from a speed standpoint, the biggest thing you can do is getting rid of Sense

Well, so far things are not going all that smoothly. I managed to get new firmware installed and installed virtuous inq but titanium backup is not being allowed root access. Any ideas??

kingston73 said:
Well, so far things are not going all that smoothly. I managed to get new firmware installed and installed virtuous inq but titanium backup is not being allowed root access. Any ideas??
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Clear superuser data and titanium data.
Open super user.and.make sure you have the latest binary installed.
For good measure restart phone.
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Ok, so I understand the process of flashing the firmware and installing a new ics rom.
What I don't get is how to go back to a GB rom, I am going to flash the 3.24 firmware so once I wanna go back what are the exact steps to use?
Flash old 1.17 firmware, go to recovery, use superwipe, then restore nandroid back up or what? Just wanna make sure do I don't brick my phone going back to GB, just in case I don't like the new ICS roms lol.
Thanks for any help!

moshe22 said:
What version of ICS are you running?
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I'm running Trip's latest CM9 version (ICS B004) and loving it.

NYCguy2020 said:
I'm running Trip's latest CM9 version (ICS B004) and loving it.
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Trip's latest is B005, just letting you know.

Related

Custom roms worry

I've S offed and rooted. I'm a bit skeptical of installing a rom. My concerns are of battery life, stability, and receiving calls. Is there any rom out there for the desire s now that is atleast 95% completed with a few bugs?
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For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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ditto to the above comment, would have said the same but was beaten to it...
nbhadusia said:
For me, LBC v0.5.3 works flawlessly - 100% complete in my opinion. No stability issues for me whatsoever.. No crashes, FCs etc, no issues making or receiving calls, smoothness better than stock and battery life same/better than stock. It's a no brainer IMHO.
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I'm waiting for an AOSP rom (CM 8hopefully), because that's my preference, but for a sense rom LBC is the best I've used.
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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sayeed91 said:
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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Look in the development forum, titles LBC mod, see link in my signature, it is suggested that you flash a new radio, but, all instructions are provided within the first post and on the supporting website
You shouldn't really start flashing until you feel reasonably comfortable with the process, so I'd suggest that you spend a day or two day reading the entire thread and the site before you do.
You can then ask any questions regarding anything you are unsure or are un clear about in the rom thread
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You can try virtuous unity too
Try virtuous unity 1.29.0, its pretty stable too, running sense 3.0.
regards,
monk
sayeed91 said:
Does the rom need you to flash kernels or radios? I'm not very good with that. Also can anyone send me a link
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DO NOT FLASH radio's unless you really need to, we know a lot about the Nand and can recover from almost any error there, but the nvram, radio etc is a different story. A bad radio flash, could mean you end up with a very expensive calculator!
The stock HTC European Baseband (radio) is: 20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M. I did not need to change mine when I flashed LBC. Different carriers will have different radio's.
You can flash a Kernel any time after you flash your rom, otherwise the rom flash will simply overwrite your kernel flash. Pick the wrong kernel and it can cause you a lot of problems, although these should be easily recoverable. The only way to learn that, is experience.

Installing AOKP

Hi everyone, this is my first post in the sensation forums. Here is my question. A friend of mine has the sensation in stock form and wants to me to install AOKP on it. I've been reading up on how to get s-off and installing cwr. Now I have a vibrant and if on a stock or froyo rom installing a cm7 rom is recommended prior to installing any ics rom to get partitions and such correctly. Is there a rom that needs to be flashed before I can flash his sensation with the aokp rom or is it safe to flash straight from stock rom. Thanks in advanced.
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The process goes basically like this:
A) Unlock the bootloader by means of Revolutionary.io
B) Root the Stock Rom
C) Flash 4EXT recovery from the APK downloaded at 4ext.net
D) Download the 3.32 unlocked firmware from the dev thread.
E) Put firmware PG58IMG file on root of SD card and hit up the bootloader, apply firmware.
F) Remove firmware file from SD card so you can get to 4EXT recovery from the bootloader.
G) Put rom on SD card, reboot into recovery, flash rom.
Only one problem is that AOKP isn't really supported, or 100% ready to roll on this device. Virtuous Inquisition or ARHD + Shnizlon's AOSP mod is a much more stable, feature-packed approach.
Thanks sshede, that's a pretty good tut you wrote for me there. And I'll definitely search and look into the roms you recommend. And also time for me to start downloading all those files and the drivers for his phone. I probably won't mod his phone till this weekend so it will give me more time to do my reading up. Thanks once again.
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Lol wut. Aokp is faster, more stable and smoother than VI. I have been using it for like 1 month without a single reboot. Only few bugs (480p camcorder) that don't affect the experience at all. Give it a try, you will think CM is a joke after using AOKP's ROM Control (which is a compilation of a LOT of tweaks/mods/etc).
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BurnRubber90 said:
Lol wut. Aokp is faster, more stable and smoother than VI. I have been using it for like 1 month without a single reboot. Only few bugs (480p camcorder) that don't affect the experience at all. Give it a try, you will think CM is a joke after using AOKP's ROM Control (which is a compilation of a LOT of tweaks/mods/etc).
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Totally subjective. Some people prefer 480p because it doesn't use nearly as much space. Bluetooth isn't 100% functioning either. It may not bother you, but some people need them. And I've tried my fair share of both Sense and AOSP-based roms, nothing is more stable than Sense-based roms right now. All the drivers are straight from HTC, nothing's been patched together.
sshede said:
Totally subjective. Some people prefer 480p because it doesn't use nearly as much space. Bluetooth isn't 100% functioning either. It may not bother you, but some people need them. And I've tried my fair share of both Sense and AOSP-based roms, nothing is more stable than Sense-based roms right now. All the drivers are straight from HTC, nothing's been patched together.
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Yes. The main problem I had with VI was the random black screen of death. Had to pull battery away every couple days as the phone wouldn't turn back on. That's why I don't like that ROM.
And, well, its personal preferences
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Jumping on the Sensation Boat

Hey guys!
I'm coming from the T-Mobile LG G2X, and I'm wondering about some things.
In terms of contrast, which phone is better? The Sensation, or the G2X..
(I heard there is 2 different panel, the AUO and the SHARP) Which one is better? Which one have better contrast, and better color?
This processor is a S3, is this S3 similar to the Amaze S3, but the sensation is downclocked which can be OC using a custom kernel.. Am I correct?
Is Qualcomm Snapdragon more open source than Nvidia Tegra 2? One of the reason I'm jumping to the sensation is the Tegra 2 is pretty CLOSED SOURCE.
Edit: How much free ram on ICS do you guys have?
Edit2: I'm getting headaches just by reading how to get S-OFF, CWM, Etc... Anyone wanna simplify it for me?
How to get CWM on it, than install custom ROM (ICS), and than install a custom kernel.... Can I install CWM w/o S-Off?
Sorry for many questions...
Say I use the HTC Dev unlock..
Can I flash custom rom, custom kernels? Because that is pretty much all I need.
If I use the revolution S-Off, what advantage does that provide? I also saw HBoot 1.27 can not use Recolution S-Off...
Expiation will be great.
Thanks!
nitrogen618 said:
Sorry for many questions...
Say I use the HTC Dev unlock..
Can I flash custom rom, custom kernels? Because that is pretty much all I need.
If I use the revolution S-Off, what advantage does that provide? I also saw HBoot 1.27 can not use Recolution S-Off...
Expiation will be great.
Thanks!
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nitrogen618 said:
Hey guys!
I'm coming from the T-Mobile LG G2X, and I'm wondering about some things.
In terms of contrast, which phone is better? The Sensation, or the G2X..
(I heard there is 2 different panel, the AUO and the SHARP) Which one is better? Which one have better contrast, and better color?
This processor is a S3, is this S3 similar to the Amaze S3, but the sensation is downclocked which can be OC using a custom kernel.. Am I correct?
Is Qualcomm Snapdragon more open source than Nvidia Tegra 2? One of the reason I'm jumping to the sensation is the Tegra 2 is pretty CLOSED SOURCE.
Edit: How much free ram on ICS do you guys have?
Edit2: I'm getting headaches just by reading how to get S-OFF, CWM, Etc... Anyone wanna simplify it for me?
How to get CWM on it, than install custom ROM (ICS), and than install a custom kernel.... Can I install CWM w/o S-Off?
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well, it all depends on what hboot your device has. if it is from 1.17 - 1.18 i think you can use revolutionary s-off. which aside from the usual htc dev unlock gives you full write access to the nand, so you can flash kernals, remove sim lock, gain supercid ect. if you have a higher hboot you can unlock using htc dev and then use jupuntubear to s-off afterwards. htcdev = you can do recoverys and some roms, depending if they have the same baseband as you. s-off can unlock everything so you can flash what you like.
one you are s-off you can flash a recovery using the pg58img.zip to hboot method or by using the control app for 4ext. once thats install flash the superuser zip and your rooted and ready to go. as for specs in not too sure
nitrogen618 said:
Sorry for many questions...
Say I use the HTC Dev unlock..
Can I flash custom rom, custom kernels? Because that is pretty much all I need.
If I use the revolution S-Off, what advantage does that provide? I also saw HBoot 1.27 can not use Recolution S-Off...
Expiation will be great.
Thanks!
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welcome to the sensation forum it's very good choice u made by switching sensation its a very cool device...
for being new to sensation i suppose u need to read here
then here
then download any room and flash u will be pro if u didnt get ics ota update yet
if u get it u should do htc dev unlock and jaubuntu bear method to do s-off
good luck
Thanks guys!
I'm not on sensation yet, but I'm thinking of getting one in 2 weeks.
Say I use HTC Dev, than I can ONLY flash kernel and Rom with the same RUU Version or w.e right? Say I'm on a ICS RUU, I can't flash a GB.. Correct?
If I get Revolution S-Off or the Bear S-Off, I can flash anything I want.
One question, I can't seem to find is, what is SUPERCID?
SuperCID means you can flash any variant of the stock ROM. It's pretty irrelevant in my eyes.
Ahhh. Useless for me...
So if I use HTC Dev, I can only flash the rom with the SAME Rom version, and kernel version... Eg: Stock kernel with modified stock kernel, stock rom with modified speedy rom.
If I use S-Off the beer way, I can flash anything I want, right?
How hard is this phone to brick on a scale of /10?
If you can choose between the two, go with revolutionary, HTC dev will void your warranty and then afterwards you have to do junoptobear to get the same benefits that you get from revolutionary. Also Id reccomend 4ext recovery.
Also supercid is relevant because there are devs here from all over the place and it will be less worrisome if you just supercid, it only takes two command lines
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After reading a few posts "bricking" is fairly easy to do. So be careful and read everything carefully..do not do the HTC Dev unlock..I have read a lot of people having problems that way us the revolutionary method. that is what I used.
I basically followed this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
and upon reading everything about a hundred times and asking a few questions...I managed to get s-off, CWM and root!
Hope this helps...I stayed with a GB ROM not an ICS some people have been having problems because you have to flash a new ICS Firmare and there is risk of bricking with that as well.
I suggest using ENERGY GB ROM 3.5 I love it and it has a better camera in it..i think it is the amaze camera driver.
I'm coming from the T-Mobile LG G2X, and I'm wondering about some things.
In terms of contrast, which phone is better? The Sensation, or the G2X..
(I heard there is 2 different panel, the AUO and the SHARP) Which one is better? Which one have better contrast, and better color?
Yes but they both have same contrast and res just different manufacturer and a batch of one of them got dust.
This processor is a S3, is this S3 similar to the Amaze S3, but the sensation is downclocked which can be OC using a custom kernel.. Am I correct?
Yes the only difference is the clock speed I believe.
Is Qualcomm Snapdragon more open source than Nvidia Tegra 2? One of the reason I'm jumping to the sensation is the Tegra 2 is pretty CLOSED SOURCE.
Well theyve released drivers and gls for ics but I don't know how it is on the g2x.
Edit: How much free ram on ICS do you guys have?
Depends if its sense or asop, or are you talking about stock?
Edit2: I'm getting headaches just by reading how to get S-OFF, CWM, Etc... Anyone wanna simplify it for me?
How to get CWM on it, than install custom ROM (ICS), and than install a custom kernel.... Can I install CWM w/o S-Off?
There are plenty of helpful guides on here some of them already linked to in this thread.
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S-off=All partitions have read write permissions
HTC Dev=Only System partition, boot partition, and recovery partition have read write permissions. Plus you have to use 4EXT Recovery and enable smart flash, or flash the boot.img manually of the ROM you want to use to flash the kernel.
Super CID=You no longer have your carriers ID on your device so you can flash a ROM with any carrier Id on it, it does not have to have your carrier ID.
SuperCID, so say It's TMOUSA, I can flash a rom from TMOEU?
And....
So with S-OFF, I can switch between GB and ICS, and any kernel I want..
With S-ON, I can only flash certain roms, and certain kernel...
Man, anyone know where I can get a HBOOT < 1.18?
Edit: Say I'm on GB right now, and I want ICS, but I have S-Off.. Do I still need to flash the ICS firmware 3.2 to use ARHD?
HTC makes it so confusing compared to Samsung and LG Devices.. X_X
Thanks guys! I really appreciate you guys helping me.
I made the same transition and much prefer my Sensation. While the G2X devs are certainly talented, Nvidia's driver policies got in the way of decent ICS roms. Qualcomm, while not as good as TI or Samsung, still does a much better job of releasing drivers and sources relevant to development than Nvidia. As for bricking, it is easier to brick than the G2X, but generally only in select instances, such as when trying to go back in s-on or formatting your sd card in an aosp rom (now fixed). The G2X screen is probably a little higher quality but the extra screen resolution on the Sensation makes it better in my opinion. Overall, what I prefer most about the Sensation is that the dev support is fantastic, second only to my HD2. (Nothing will ever beat that though.)
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JesusFreak316 said:
I made the same transition and much prefer my Sensation. While the G2X devs are certainly talented, Nvidia's driver policies got in the way of decent ICS roms. Qualcomm, while not as good as TI or Samsung, still does a much better job of releasing drivers and sources relevant to development than Nvidia. As for bricking, it is easier to brick than the G2X, but generally only in select instances, such as when trying to go back in s-on or formatting your sd card in an aosp rom (now fixed). The G2X screen is probably a little higher quality but the extra screen resolution on the Sensation makes it better in my opinion. Overall, what I prefer most about the Sensation is that the dev support is fantastic, second only to my HD2. (Nothing will ever beat that though.)
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Few question, Why would we go back to S-On? Except for Warranty.
And if I'm on GB with CWM S-Off, do I have to install the 3.32 base to install ICS Custom roms?
nitrogen618 said:
Few question, Why would we go back to S-On? Except for Warranty.
And if I'm on GB with CWM S-Off, do I have to install the 3.32 base to install ICS Custom roms?
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Mainly just for warranty or if you want to sell.
And yes but flashing a firmware isn't had you just put it on the sd card, go into bootloader and let it flash, take fw file off sd card after finished then flash an ics Rom I know you're used to cwm but 4ext is the standard for a large amount of roms and mods here, if you install with cwm it will usually work but you'll be missing out on some stuff. If it helps, 4ext is based off cwm. Sorry if it seems like in trying to shove 4ext down your throat....
I thought modifying this phone was going to be really challenging compared to my old LG but once I had it in my hands I was running ordroid in less than 2 hours
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yahhboy said:
Mainly just for warranty or if you want to sell.
And yes but flashing a firmware isn't had you just put it on the sd card, go into bootloader and let it flash, take fw file off sd card after finished then flash an ics Rom I know you're used to cwm but 4ext is the standard for a large amount of roms and mods here, if you install with cwm it will usually work but you'll be missing out on some stuff. If it helps, 4ext is based off cwm. Sorry if it seems like in trying to shove 4ext down your throat....
I thought modifying this phone was going to be really challenging compared to my old LG but once I had it in my hands I was running ordroid in less than 2 hours
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Thanks!
Alright, one last question. How often do you have to flash a firmware to flash a custom rom? (Do you have to flash the firmware even with S-Off?)
I see people say flashing other rom makes them stuck on boot screen? Something aobut firmware...
Compared to my LG G2X, this is like making me jump through hoops..
Any btw, <1.18HBoot is GB, and 1.27HBoot is ICS mostly for ppl that did the ICS update, right?
Just want to sort out everything before I buy this phone..
If you want an ICS ROM, then you'll need the ICS firmware, it's pretty simple really.
nitrogen618 said:
Thanks!
Alright, one last question. How often do you have to flash a firmware to flash a custom rom? (Do you have to flash the firmware even with S-Off?)
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Just once. After you get your 1.27HBoot (I assume we are talking about ICS upgrades and ROMs here, right?) then you should proceed to flash the 3.32 firmware (there are excellent threads with a metric ton of instructions on how to do this) - after that point the ICS world is yours (at least that's how it went for me: I used the noob-proof tool from the stickied thread in Android Development section, then went to determine which firmware I need, flashed it, flashed 4ext and now I enjoy the latest and greatest both in stock Android and in HTC specific (i.e. Sense 4.0, kudos to OrDroid)
Honestly, it's kinda of a shock when you go through it initially but the stickied threads are very good, the one-click tool is effin amazin and after you go through the "zomfg I void me warranty me wants me mommy" stage then you are good to go - plus if you really don't like anything you get, you can just flash in the original ROM, right?
nitrogen618 said:
Thanks!
Alright, one last question. How often do you have to flash a firmware to flash a custom rom? (Do you have to flash the firmware even with S-Off?)
I see people say flashing other rom makes them stuck on boot screen? Something aobut firmware...
Compared to my LG G2X, this is like making me jump through hoops..
Any btw, <1.18HBoot is GB, and 1.27HBoot is ICS mostly for ppl that did the ICS update, right?
Just want to sort out everything before I buy this phone..
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I'd reccomend soffing before upgrading to ics, because once on ics the only way to soff is through HTC dev
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yahhboy said:
I'd reccomend soffing before upgrading to ics, because once on ics the only way to soff is through HTC dev
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Thanks guys! Say I'm on boot 1.18. Than I s off and than update firmware to 3.32( this won't make it back to s on and make it 1.27hboot right?) But if I do s on, can't I still flash from and kernel?
If I have s off can I not flash the 3.32 firmware?
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[q] why is everyone excited about ota ics

Seems like everyone was complaining, saying the OTA was never coming and now that it is here they are complaining again. Why would you want to go back to stock, just so you can get the official release when it is for sure filled with a bunch of things you don't want or need (apps bloatware) then you are going to root it and go flash a custom ROM anyways. I am on Energy GB ROM and I am really hesitant to flash to ICS because this ROM works so well. When I was stock I would get restarts, Sense would constantly reload and a bunch of other things. I don't want to have to flash a ROM then flash a bunch of fixes after just to make it stable just to have ICS on my device. Sorry just wanted to make a few points. If anyone could post some key features of the Official OTA ICS Update and why it would be better than a custom ROM I would appreciate it.
Final question. How many of you reverted back to stock just get the OTA and what is so cool about it?
I am wondering the same thing.. what does stock OTA ICS have over custom roms?
The only two things I can think of is (1) keeping warranty, and (2) more stability since it's an official update
A lot of times the custom roms are more stable. The GB rom I am running is a lot smoother and more stable than when I got my sensation out of the box.
I agree, on stock I would be having the device reboot all the time! Drove me Crazy!
On my custom Rom, it has NEVER done that! So I say pass on the update also! I'm running Android 4.0.3 now with custom rom, why ruin a good thing i say!
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Here's one reason: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26117743
It's not always that people are looking to apply the stock rom, but sometimes what pieces they can get from it.
LOL, good point but besides working wifi calling.
my Wi-Fi calling is working on my custom Rom, as is camera, hotspot, tethering ect. I've checked them all. I'm greatful all working! These developers are Genius! I am soo thankful for them!
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realsis said:
my Wi-Fi calling is working on my custom Rom, as is camera, hotspot, tethering ect. I've checked them all. I'm greatful all working! These developers are Genius! I am soo thankful for them!
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How do you compare the camera on the stock GB compared to the camera on your ROM now.I love the amaze camera mod on this NRG ROM.
I myself had actually considered reverting back to stock from sensation 4g running virtuous 4.02 ics, but that was only so I could get my WiFi calling back, and to see if it was any more stable..... But then I realized that since I flashed Virtuous Inquisition, I haven't had ANY problems at all, and now there's a fix for WiFi calling, so I can't imagine why I would go back to stock. Phew, I'm glad I came to my SENSEs before doing something I probably would ended up regretting, and then spending time to have to revert and re-root.
Custom roms ain't all they're cracked up to be. Too many issues. I'm on stock and rooted and it works just fine. I don't see what's so great about custom roms. Eye candy? Custom boot animations? I would rather have stability and reliability.
Kevc44485 said:
Custom roms ain't all they're cracked up to be. Too many issues. I'm on stock and rooted and it works just fine. I don't see what's so great about custom roms. Eye candy? Custom boot animations? I would rather have stability and reliability.
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I think that it's not as much about the eyecandy, so to speak, but more to do with the fine tuning and tweaks available in the custom roms that you just can't get with stock. There's nothing wrong with anyone leaning one way or the other, just a matter of preference and of what you use the phone for.

[Q] Complete noob question about flashing custom from stock ics

Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)
hexen88 said:
Hey all,
I'm complete noob about flashing. When I had GB - that was quite simple, but now I'm on last official ICS stock from HTC, and I'm totally angry for this. This rom it's just crap. I want to flash to a custom rom, and I don't know how on ICS, there is any solution? Noob proof? I want to change to some stable, smooth, and maybe non-sense rom? Can some1 help me? Will be very nice, if this rom will have wifi/bt switches in quick settings, and auto sys-updates (ota)
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Hi,
Are you still s-off?
If so,then backup your stuff,superwipe,and install a ROM from HERE
Read the [OP] to see what the ROM is all about.
I never been s-off ;(
hexen88 said:
I never been s-off ;(
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Hi,
In which case,head for THIS THREAD
There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
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hexen88 said:
There is only this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
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yes, only this method for now.
read it carefully
I'll be able to back to stock if needed? (To send it to service for ex.). It's really needed to change cid? IS there any custom rom with OTA?
Yes you need to change cid, yes you can change back if needed. Try out a few roms, see what you like they all are really great. It's just a matter of personal preference. I'm not understanding what you mean by Rom with ota. Over the air Rom? Or do you
Mean a Rom like the ota update? If so, yes there is. Hope this helps
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Rom that have system updates over the air, and notifications about update like stock rom, u know, i'm entering preferences > about > check updates.
I can't try few roms... This is my only one phone at now, and I really need it to work, that's why I want to change to some better rom than stock, and that's why I can't try few of them. You know - I don't have time to beeing angry to my current ROM, and also no time to try few of them
No with roms you won't get the ota updates , sorry
There are a lot of good stable roms, what exactly are you looking for?
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I'm using beats by grogg Rom, I like it a lot, WiFi hotspot are working great. What is it you don't like about your current Rom and maybe we can recommend one you will like I'm sure there's a Rom here you will be happy with!
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Hm, I don't really know... I like Sense, but maybe clear ICS have better features? If yes - I don't want Sense. I really liked quick settings when on GB rom, now I don't have wifi/bt switches, but I want to. I don't know what's more... I've never had any senseless ROM. But most important - I want ALL functions to be working. Sense 4... ahm, I fall in love with Sense 4
Help me to choose, pls. Battery is important too, and smooth. But I think smooth is very good on most future ROMS
Any1?
hexen88 said:
Any1?
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You can get s-off with the juopunutbear method. Which now does not need the htc dev-off, so htc does not know you are tinkering with your phone.
Returning your phone completely to stock can be done, but from what i've read it can be tricky as you must become S-ON again. (however, there is a unbrickable team here).
There is a way to flash with S-ON but it requires HTC DEV unlock, and for you to manually flash the boot.img, and keep the stock kernel. A noob myself i went for the whole S-OFF, lets bring it on experience.
From what I read on a local forum in my country, Ordroid gives you the sense 4 experience. And the developer regularly updates his / her rom.
Then again there is sense 4 from Baadnewz (insertcoin) and many more. A popular sense 3.6 rom is ARHD.
You can flash different kernels to increase your battery life.
As for the vanilla ICS, you can either go for CM9 (respect to Vorbeth) or the AOKP. The latter is based on the cm9 nightlies (i believe). I run such a rom. I love the vanilla looks and the added tweaks.
However, I believe recent nighlies have worse battery life. And there is an audio routing issue. For full reliability you might consisder those sense.
what's vanilla and aokp?
Please help?

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