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Stock Verizon 6.5/Sense 2.1 ROM Problem with Today Screen Animated Wallpaper

I have updated my TP2 with the stock Verizon WM6.5/Sense 2.1 ROM upgrade. I have noticed that the weather animations on the Today screen wallpaper, which I think are great, will stop working if I go to beyond the Start screen and hit "All Applications", and it brings up the full apps list. Even without starting any of the apps there, going back to the Today screen, the animations on the wallpaper will not work with any method that I can find other than restarting Sense 2.1 with a soft reset or similar restart of manila.exe
I know most folks here are beyond the stock ROMs but wondering if anyone has seen this too and figured out how work around this problem that I assume is a bug and will not in all probability ever get fixed from HTC. Hopefully this is the worst probelm with the new ROM, whick I can live with but would like to correct if possible.
Thanks!

After a while it does stop the animation. One trick I found out (and it helps with the memory leak), is just move around the tabs just to initate the reloading of sense. Then it will do it again.

Hit the task manager at the top right of the screen (where you close running programs, etc) and then close it. The animation will restart.

I recognize the open and closing of Task Manager does restart it under normal situations, but it will not restart it if you go into the All Applications page. Thats what breaks it...keeps the aminations from running again until you restart Sense 2.1 through several methods, soft-reset, going through the motions of changing the Today screen icons (see above) or some app that resarts the manila.exe program like cleanRam.

Interesting I never noticed this before.

ohaness said:
I recognize the open and closing of Task Manager does restart it under normal situations, but it will not restart it if you go into the All Applications page.
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Doesn't do it on mine. I've got the "All Applications" page in Sence 2.1. I've also installed 4 icons in the All Applications and All Programs pages, Awsome Start (single row WinMo start menu). Plus animated weather with any home screen wallpaper and a working BG4All.
Goin to My Application, or All Programs, then back to home and weather works fine. So either somthing in the .cabs & tweaks I've done has fixed it, or somthing in the .cabs & tweaks you've done broke it.

Yup it does it for me. Now I know what stops the weather.

msh441 said:
So either somthing in the .cabs & tweaks I've done has fixed it, or somthing in the .cabs & tweaks you've done broke it.
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I have a pretty much stock phone with several tweeks/cabs (stop sent message balloon, restore message light flashing capabilities, and a couple of other minor ones) that I don't believe have anything to do with breaking it so I'm gussing that some of yours are "fixing it".

Hmm maybe its the weather for all backgrounds that is making the weather stay. I guess I will look for that cab and see if it fixes our problem.

Don't have the ability to hook up my phone and upload the .cab... but search for: "2.1apristel BG4ALL_W_Fullscreen_Animations.cab" and you should come up with it pretty quick.
That's the only one that worked for me with the CDMA Verizon 6.5/Sense 2.1 phone without breaking somthing else.
Good luck. Hope it works for you.

ohaness said:
I have updated my TP2 with the stock Verizon WM6.5/Sense 2.1 ROM upgrade. I have noticed that the weather animations on the Today screen wallpaper, which I think are great, will stop working if I go to beyond the Start screen and hit "All Applications", and it brings up the full apps list. Even without starting any of the apps there, going back to the Today screen, the animations on the wallpaper will not work with any method that I can find other than restarting Sense 2.1 with a soft reset or similar restart of manila.exe
I know most folks here are beyond the stock ROMs but wondering if anyone has seen this too and figured out how work around this problem that I assume is a bug and will not in all probability ever get fixed from HTC. Hopefully this is the worst probelm with the new ROM, whick I can live with but would like to correct if possible.
Thanks!
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Myself personally, I do not like the Manila start menu, and have disabled it. I use the standard WM 6.5 honeycomb start menu. I have not experienced any problems with the animations since disabling the manila start menu.

How do you disable just the Manila (Sense 2.1) start menu and use the WM6.5 one?

ohaness said:
How do you disable just the Manila (Sense 2.1) start menu and use the WM6.5 one?
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You can do it one of two ways.
I did it with a .cab that also added a "Programs" tab in the TouchFlo/Sense interface as well. But using the registry editor. HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration. Open File 11 and under the D word value "Enable", change the value from 0 to 1.
There is another edit, though, where you can choose which start menu the device uses. I'm 99% sure it's HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila and under the D Word Value "IsWM6.5" and the default setting is no (which = 0). Change it to a "1" and I'm pretty sure you'll get what you're looking for.

msh441 said:
You can do it one of two ways.
Open File 11 and under the D word value "Enable", change the value from 0 to 1.
"IsWM6.5" and the default setting is no (which = 0). Change it to a "1"
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In both cases, my settings are "1" and I have not changed these at all from the Stock VZW 6.5 upgrade. Am I misreading?

ohaness said:
I have updated my TP2 with the stock Verizon WM6.5/Sense 2.1 ROM upgrade. I have noticed that the weather animations on the Today screen wallpaper, which I think are great, will stop working if I go to beyond the Start screen and hit "All Applications", and it brings up the full apps list. Even without starting any of the apps there, going back to the Today screen, the animations on the wallpaper will not work with any method that I can find other than restarting Sense 2.1 with a soft reset or similar restart of manila.exe
I know most folks here are beyond the stock ROMs but wondering if anyone has seen this too and figured out how work around this problem that I assume is a bug and will not in all probability ever get fixed from HTC. Hopefully this is the worst probelm with the new ROM, whick I can live with but would like to correct if possible.
Thanks!
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Hmmm, I Downloaded My ROM from PCD & I Don't Have Animated Weather for My Today Screen, Only In My Weather Tab. Where Did You Download Your ROM From?

Downloaded from the same place as you...PCD.

Hmmm, By Any Chance Do You Still Have The Original ROM You Updated Your TP2 With? Can You Send It My Way? I'd Really Appreciate It

Actually I deleted it. The phone was updated and working properly so I saw no reason to keep it as I could always download from the PCD website again.
Did you load other tweak cabs to your new 6.5 ROM that you had in 6.1. Maybe you did someting. Try a hard reset?
Sorry thats all I have for suggestions.

ohaness said:
How do you disable just the Manila (Sense 2.1) start menu and use the WM6.5 one?
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Change registry setting below:
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\EnableManilaStartMenu
Set DWORD to 1 (use TF3D)
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\EnableManilaStartMenu
Set DWORD to 0 (Use WM Menu)

ohaness said:
Actually I deleted it. The phone was updated and working properly so I saw no reason to keep it as I could always download from the PCD website again.
Did you load other tweak cabs to your new 6.5 ROM that you had in 6.1. Maybe you did someting. Try a hard reset?
Sorry thats all I have for suggestions.
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I'll Give It a Shot Doing a Hard Reset, Thanks for The Help Though

Please Help Htc sense wont load after deleting cookies Home tab

First Off im not a newb....i used the search function but we all know how ****ty that is....i found some answers but none of them relate to my issue...so please spare me the same "use the search" or "maybe you shouldnt of messed with your phone"
I downloaded the newest Cookies home tab and decided to delete it...now my sense wont load....everything else does though...I can hit the start button and it will bring up my start menu and ect.
I downloaded CHT to my storage card from the get go, does this make a difference?
If you could can you please give me the solution or provide me with the link if there already is a thread on this...
thank you.

Eeks, installing CHT to a Storage Card is 10,000% not recommended {as the main HTC Sense files it 'coincides' with are in your devices \Windows\ directory.}
There may be a fix, but don't take my word for it.
First, try installing CHT to your DEVICE this time, reset, then uninstall it.
If that doesn't work, download and install THIS to your device.
Once installed, tap the icon in your start menu once.
You'll see a 2 second Windows Wait Cursor.
Tap it again, this time it should spin a bit longer. Soft reset your device.
If Sense still won't load, I hate to say, but a Hard Reset may be in your best interest.
Just for the record, unless it's an Application or a Game, I wouldn't recommend installing anything else to your Storage Card.
Examples of things that should ALWAYS be installed to your device:
1.) WinMo Themes {taskbars, softkey bars, taskbar icons, etc..}
2.) Sense/Manila modifications, themes, etc..
3.) System Tweakers {cleaners, registry editors, ram optimizers, etc..}

Thank you! ill give this a shot when my phone is charged up

Sounds good. Hope you get the problem settled without the need of a Hard Reset.
Keep me updated.

Ok the first two didnt work.....if i do a hard reset im afraid that it isnt going to work and then im screwed because CHT is the only thing that is making my phone work

May I ask why you are trying to rid of CHT?
You can keep it installed and keep the basic look of the default Sense {with the help of the CHTE of course}.
Just style it up, and pretend it's not even there. <---being a smartass, sorry.
Also, if you do a hard-reset, it will just set your device back to day one {or to your ROMs default state}, so all changes you have made will be undone... think of it as a 'Fresh-Install' of Windows on a PC, because relatively, Hard Resetting is exactly that, except on a Mobile.

I did the hard reset and it worked. I also downloaded CHT again (to my device)
I wanted to delete it to see if everything would go back to the original, i dont know why i just like making sure every thing can go back to normal.
After I downloaded CHT again I also deleted it to see what would happen and the Sense will load now...... so now I have CHT and loving it. Thank you for you help

Well, sorry to hear that you had to Hard Reset, but I'm happy that you got everything running smooth.
Enjoy CHT. The possiblities are almost endless with it.

Is there any HD2 alternative theme without sense?

I have been using LEO for almost one year. During that time, I discover alternative for HTC sense in ROMS provided here. Thing is, HTC sense eats up battery twice as much as windows default in Today's setting.
I don't really understand technical gizmo, so please be patient with me:
Setting => Today => Items
I tick Date, Wireless, Messaging, Task, Calendar, Windows Live, and Device Lock
That's all I need
As postings that are stickied mentioned, it is safer to use themes instead of ROMS (what with possible bricking the phone and so on and so forth); and I cannot afford another HTC now to experiment. I found that most themes also use sense while my reason to turn it off is to prolong the battery. I'd like to find alternative ways to improve my LEO appearance.
Do comment and suggest.

here you have a really very good alternative to Sense: JMLToday http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983928

sense turn off and on
Hi all !
I don't need replace for sense.
I would only wanna know how to turn off the sense, when i need for battery savings very bad
And then when i put phone back on charger, how to turnit on
That would help me alot in some situations.
Wold be nice in start menu settings to add something like that.
Cheers !

gastruder said:
Hi all !
I don't need replace for sense.
I would only wanna know how to turn off the sense, when i need for battery savings very bad
And then when i put phone back on charger, how to turnit on
That would help me alot in some situations.
Wold be nice in start menu settings to add something like that.
Cheers !
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Easy to disable, go to settings / home / items , and deselect SENSE.

Hi poyensa, is that a ROM, themes or something else?

Easy to disable, got to settings / home / items , and deselect SENSE.
Yea tanks, this really saving battery.
And can be enabled same way.
Cheers

[Q] Help

I installed new task bar (dinik anastasia) and followed the instructions. It changed my icon at the top showing I had a VM but nothing else is showing. Now I can't get to my start screen. I understand I can unistall this problem is nothing happens when I touch start at the top and when I press the windows button at the bottom again nothing happens. So I cant even access the area needed to uninstall this program or anything else. Please help

cbreehl said:
I installed new task bar (dinik anastasia) and followed the instructions. It changed my icon at the top showing I had a VM but nothing else is showing. Now I can't get to my start screen. I understand I can unistall this problem is nothing happens when I touch start at the top and when I press the windows button at the bottom again nothing happens. So I cant even access the area needed to uninstall this program or anything else. Please help
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Did you install sdkcerts before installing the taskbar? Something in shellres.192.dll is causing the problem. Can you slide over to your setting tab? if so hit menu, all settings, system, then remove programs to uninstall. Or set up one of your quicklinks to access file explorer, navigate to the cab, click on it as if your were going to reinstall and let it uninstall previous version then softreset and see if it fixes everything..

Yes I installed that first as it instructed. I was finally able to get into my applications and removed it and everything seems to be back to normal. I would really like to install new themes, etc. any idea of a good place to get the downloads from (seeing how my first try didnt work)? Thanks!

^^^ You´re at the best possible place.
But, you need to know a little bit what you´re doing.
A taskbar must fit your WinMo version, plus, as the previous tip said, the certification must be there.
Most tweaks and mods are made for specific versions, like any other software for any other operating system.
Once you´re familiar with those things, you can pimp as much as you want.

tictac0566 said:
^^^ You´re at the best possible place.
But, you need to know a little bit what you´re doing.
A taskbar must fit your WinMo version, plus, as the previous tip said, the certification must be there.
Most tweaks and mods are made for specific versions, like any other software for any other operating system.
Once you´re familiar with those things, you can pimp as much as you want.
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Thanks and sorry for all the questions but you guys are the expert. I would like to change my theme, icons, layout, etc. as I am quite bored with mine. Can you point me in right direction? I've downloaded a few different ones but none seem to work.
Thanks in advance for all the help!

cbreehl said:
Thanks and sorry for all the questions but you guys are the expert. I would like to change my theme, icons, layout, etc. as I am quite bored with mine. Can you point me in right direction? I've downloaded a few different ones but none seem to work.
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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I´m not really an expert, either... just a user like you. All I made is some graphics for clocks because I like them in real life, too...
As a beginner, I would start to look a little to what others do. This thread here is great to start: Klick! Maybe just start with the last pages, where you´ll see the latest tweaks and mods. Sometimes people write where they got what they use, sometimes you can ask.
One of the greatest tools to change the layout and the functionality of Sense (that´s the basic user interface of an HD2 using Windows Mobile 6.5) is CHT (short for coOkiemonster´s Home Tab): Klick!
Add some graphic mods and tweaks, and there you go. Some examples:
[6THEMES]Nordpolcampers Tranquility Theme Cabs up! + many more Themes
[THEME] WP7 UI and WM SKINS [UPDATED 26/5/11]
[ Theme.Windroid - The Final ]******** HTC SENSE 3.0*******
Please carefully read in each thread what the author says about instructions.
Last, but not least, there is much more to discover (as in if you like clocks, too, follow the link in my signature for some examples, those clocks are made to be used with CHT).
Enjoy your great device, have fun with personalizing!

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