So I just updated from 1.73 to 1.85... And my quadrant scores are like 600 less, at 4400 compared to ~4970 on 1.73.. already factory reset, disabled a bunch of apps, etc. Not really sure what the deal is, anybody else experience this?
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Is your phone noticeably slower? No? Then who cares...?
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Homescreen feels a little sluggish..
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Did it feel that way before you saw the quadrant score?
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Haha I don't know.. it could be my mind telling me that it is, but the score that took the biggest hit is CPU, significantly lower than what quadrant says my device should be. I/o, 2d, and 3d graphics are slightly lower while memory is much higher..
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rfree2340 said:
Haha I don't know.. it could be my mind telling me that it is, but the score that took the biggest hit is CPU, significantly lower than what quadrant says my device should be. I/o, 2d, and 3d graphics are slightly lower while memory is much higher..
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its been said that quadrant doesnt relate to real world performance very well. for example i lost 50% after update on quadrant back with the evo and the phone actually felt faster. Run quadrant if you want but just dont put a lot of faith in the score vs your user experience. What is important is how it feels to YOU, not quadrant. Most all of the early reports say 1.85 feels a good bit faster than the others..
Yeah, I do realize that, but I also want to compare scores with others who updated to 1.85 because if everyone else is getting better scores still then maybe there's something wrong with my device, though I bet that is highly unlikely as it is just software.
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I can concur with the OP. I had scores of 5200, when I updated, they went down to about 4600. Doesn't make a difference as the phone is a little smoother now.
happened to me too. pisses me off!
I had scores anywhere from 4700-5150 now I can't get any higher than 4500 after the update.
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I have recently purchased my g2x and even though it seems fast it post really bad quadrant scores on all of the different quadrant test. On the benchmark test it was up to 2400 no can't get past 1300. Does this mean one of the processors went out.
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zackyzack said:
I have recently purchased my g2x and even though it seems fast it post really bad quadrant scores on all of the different quadrant test. On the benchmark test it was up to 2400 no can't get past 1300. Does this mean one of the processors went out.
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No. But how do you check that?
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Quadrant Standard sucks for benchmarks. It is inconsistent and gives odd scores, like the time I scored 24000 with my ZIO.... yeah right, this phone is lucky to hit 1080 with our new overclocked kernel
Use AnTutu Benchmark and you should get more consistent scores.
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Quadrant Standard sucks for benchmarks. It is inconsistent and gives odd scores, like the time I scored 24000 with my ZIO.... yeah right, this phone is lucky to hit 1080 with our new overclocked kernel
Use AnTutu Benchmark and you should get more consistent scores.
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Well I get constant 2400 scores. Froyo stock.
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zackyzack said:
I have recently purchased my g2x and even though it seems fast it post really bad quadrant scores on all of the different quadrant test. On the benchmark test it was up to 2400 no can't get past 1300. Does this mean one of the processors went out.
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Does the phone feel laggy during normal use? If not I wouldn't wory too much about quadrant scores. Try running a Linpack benchmark. Your score should be in the low 30's.
No it feels like its running great just really low scores all around. Im getting about 18 on linpqck
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Yeah i'm experiencing the same thing can't even get past 2000 and when i check quadrant about phone option it says i have one core pretty sure no one screwed up my phone when they shipped it... T__T
I think peoples experiences with Quadrant seem to vary a great deal. I tend to get pretty consistent results from it.
Currently using and loving my dell streak just curiouse how you infuse goers are enjoying your experience and Dec support Hearing the device Is smooth and it looks to have good support already. Curious about the current roms and what to expected from each, from reviews the infuse averages 1100 to 1300 on quadrant which is OK I guess I get around 2200 on my streak , just curious of the infuses speed on custom roms vs. Stock.
I'm asking because I have an upgrade and would enjoy a phone with good Dev suppprt
Thanks
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Currently using and loving my dell streak just curiouse how you infuse goers are enjoying your experience and Dec support Hearing the device Is smooth and it looks to have good support already. Curious about the current roms and what to expected from each, from reviews the infuse averages 1100 to 1300 on quadrant which is OK I guess I get around 2200 on my streak , just curious of the infuses speed on custom roms vs. Stock.
I'm asking because I have an upgrade and would enjoy a phone with good Dev suppprt
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1767 running refuse with a couple apps running in background
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Dell Streak 5 to Infuse convert here. Definitely worth the switch.
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don't put too much faith in benchmarks. fun to compare but otherwise should be left to fine tuning settings and finding a devices strengths and weaknesses for figuring out how to best exploit its power for things like game programming . it has little relevance to every day activities.
the lowish benchmark numbers come from the slow file system and the somewhat poor floating point performance. I don't know how much floating point you run on you device (crunching numbers) but being that these processors have dedicated fpu's it is not a general measure of performance. qualcomm just has a better fpu. samsung has the best gpu. play h.264 movies @1080p on both devices and see which fairs better! with 2.3.3 the video decoding gets even faster increasing quadrant score by up to 1000 points as seen on my captivate beating even the xoom tablet with a score of over 3000 which is just as irrelevant as the infuse/streak quadrant comparison.
I might even skip the SGS2. Loving the phone and the big screen.
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I also came from the Streak. The screen and camera quality are enough for me to never look back.
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And another convert here. Very happy with the phone. Only thing I'm missing is the little extra screen size.
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I absolutely love my Infuse. The one thing that bothered me for about 5 days was the relatively low DPI of the screen, but between LCD Density tweaks and a new font... and perhaps just allowing my eyes to get used to it, I never notice the pixelation that plagued me at first.
EDIT: Oh, and to me the SGS2 would be a downgrade. Dual-core procs don't make up for a smaller screen.
If you're coming from the Dell Streak to the Infuse, not much difference except slightly faster processor and 1/2 an inch smaller screen. Battery life is the same. Samsung has it's Touch Whiz on top of android. However, rooting and unlocking this phone was easy.
Why would u compare quadrant from a stock infuse to a modded streak? Pointless.
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Ya i know my quadrant scores are pretty irrelevant even with my scores im sure the infuse is much smoother and faster even with lower scores? I think i might stop by my at&t store and check 1 out
Looks like there is 1 or 2 roms already what are your experiences with them? Any overclocking to come?
Thanks
Yea oc is on the way...and voodoo lagfix shoots the quadrant up to 1700-1900.
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If you're coming from the Dell Streak to the Infuse, not much difference except slightly faster processor and 1/2 an inch smaller screen. Battery life is the same. Samsung has it's Touch Whiz on top of android. However, rooting and unlocking this phone was easy.
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Not true. The Infuse's screen is superior to the Dell Streak's and so is the camera.
My Skyrocket gets way higher quadrant scores than a friend of mine's OGS2.
3500vs3100
Yet... On every visual test he gets 20fps MORE than I do? Why is his score lower? the phone feels faster than mine.
Thoughts?
Overall I found the OGS2 to be smoother with the animations, etc.
Graphic tests (2D and 3D) are only some parts from the overall Quadrant test (CPU, Memory, I/O, Graphic). If you're using Quadrant Advanced, you could see scores from each test performed.
What if you try other benchmark app such as Antutu ? You'll get more detailed result.
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I was shocked to see the results. but in "3d" test, the S2 simply blew the SR out of the water.
And the OS itself seemed more fluid than the skyrocket.
I got 4000 on quadrant with stock Rom.....
Take that OGS2!
both phones are fast in there own way.
but let the pissing contest continue, as you were.
They have different processors or chip sets. (one or both of them. I forget.)
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Was that the score from just one part of the test? I ran a couple.. the total score was a little over 6000 for each?
I had read that these scores don't mean that much?? But, hey I'm new to Android..
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shaggyskunk said:
Was that the score from just one part of the test? I ran a couple.. the total score was a little over 6000 for each?
I had read that these scores don't mean that much?? But, hey I'm new to Android..
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Its just a way to measure your e-peen. Antutu is much better.
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Strange Observation
Today I received my replacement SR from Amazon and I ran few Quadrant tests and was constantly getting 3000+ score, with highest being 3360. Without installing anything else I just rooted the phone with Easy Root and then re-ran Quadrant test few times and did not get 3000+ score even once. The best I got was 2500. All other scores were between 2200 - 2300.
Any idea why rooting the phone can cause this drop? I also noticed that after rooting, the phone does not feel as snappy as stock.
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Today I received my replacement SR from Amazon and I ran few Quadrant tests and was constantly getting 3000+ score, with highest being 3360. Without installing anything else I just rooted the phone with Easy Root and then re-ran Quadrant test few times and did not get 3000+ score even once. The best I got was 2500. All other scores were between 2200 - 2300.
Any idea why rooting the phone can cause this drop? I also noticed that after rooting, the phone does not feel as snappy as stock.
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Its not the root.. Quadrant tests are pointless and the more you run them the less they get.. they are very erratic...
Antu or Cf Bench are much more accurate and true to form.
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Its just a way to measure your e-peen. Antutu is much better.
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I have been using Antutu, just not really sure what to make of the numbers?
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Its not the root.. Quadrant tests are pointless and the more you run them the less they get.. they are very erratic...
Antu or Cf Bench are much more accurate and true to form.
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Antutu or CF might be more accurate but since I use one tool to compare the different ROMS / Phones..... that shouldn't matter.
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Antutu or CF might be more accurate but since I use one tool to compare the different ROMS / Phones..... that shouldn't matter.
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This is UNTRUE if quadrant its self is not accurate it will only make ur Baseline for tests just as in accurate and false.
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Exactly. If you run 10 tests and get 10 greatly varying results then something is wrong haha.
I have this argument with people all the time on quadrant and sleedtest.net (xtremelabs speed test is more consistent)
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This is UNTRUE if quadrant its self is not accurate it will only make ur Baseline for tests just as in accurate and false.
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The problem with quadrant is as if it somehow doesn't scale the processor to full speed. For me it has always been consistent...
Everything is stock , no overclocking or anything like that
Is that a surprise? isn't sensation better than Nexus? or am i wrong?
Benchmark tests don't always tell the truth.
Tired of those benchmark noobs.
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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k0zmic said:
The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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Best dual core phone, in your opinion
It's not a fact.
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throcker said:
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
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When did you use a Galaxy Nexus? It's never been laggy.
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this thread is so lol
first of all 2700 is low
second of all, that quadrant graph has not been updated since they added dual/quad core support
so thats galaxy nexus running 1 core test
check my screenshot for some sensation power, 1512mhz gets 3700 points
was with openSensation btw
My phone just sucks in benchmarks . Quadrant cant get over 3000 mark. Antutu usaly 6800+ on 1.5 ghz. But no lag in programs and in the interface, but seeing this score im thinking something is not ok with it.
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Lmao... I have bolth Sensation (my wife's) and the SGS 2.. and yes the pyramid is a good phone. It lacks a good bit in 3D performance ..
I know the 2 devices have the same S3 chip set but Sammy definitely did better implementing it.. Though I tend to not trust quadrant I score over 3200 with no overclock on my SGS 2.. just saying .. not to mention my buddy has a GNex and that shiz is fast...
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On ics 3D performance is deem good on sensation. Gta 3 max setting = no lag
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FreakyDR said:
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Its inflation. Quadrant is notorious for this. R/RW speed between the current devicesis pretty much the same, especially when they are all on custom ext4 partitions .. Hence why you can run 4 benchmarks and get 4 different scores .. notice the CPU and graphics numbers don't really flux to much...
Hate to break it to you bro. But the Sensation will never be faster than a GNex or any SGS 2 version. Don't get me wrong I love the device. But it is what it is..
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ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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lol. My brother has a galaxy nexus and it's not how you describe. It's pretty fast and very smooth.
I m from europe but galaxy nexus what is in usa that lte version is lagy like hell. For many peopls
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Who gives a F**k.
We have what we have, be happy! Its not about the size of your e-penis, its the fleshy one that counts.
Enjoy
you all realize that quadrant is only good for comparing devices with the same screen resolution, right?
The Gnex is running at a much higher resolution and becuase of that the scores will be lower in Quadrant.
Quadrant runs at the phones native resolution so the gnex has to work harder... I cant believe people still use this as their proof....
I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
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Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
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Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
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Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
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I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
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I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
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THANK YOU! This thread has no point.
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I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
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Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
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Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
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yeah, I thought the same thing, that KK is all hopped up and feature rich with background processes, but I score almost identical scores with processor scaled back to stock 1.5 ghz.
And I know, I read it a millions times a day that benchmarks don't mean anything, but I like to have something quantifiable that the phone is executing instructions faster and not just a placebo effect because I'm overclocked.
I have all of my other devices overclocked, and they all score better on benchmarks. I've come across kernels that score lower and run smoother than overclocked kernels, but this is the first time I've encountered lower scores with an overclock.
In any event, like I asked in my initial post, I'm wondering how the overclock can garner the lower scores.
If you feel this thread has no point, you're free to not comment, and return to the questions forum.
Otherwise, I would like to discuss how overclocking produces slower benchmarks.
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Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
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Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
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Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
WR
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This is XDA, we don't run off of tangable, quantifiable data; we run off of placebo. Sorta like how aznrice's mods got so popular.
Anywho, it's probably not stable at those speeds so it's throttling during the benchmark. As said above role it back a tad and see what happens.
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Ohhhh yeah. That's right. I was looking at another oc kernel and there were some adb shell commands to alter thermald.conf to "stick" the oc at higher speeds.
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Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
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In the past, I've just seen reboots if the frequency is too high. The I haven't had any reboots at 2 ghz. I'll try running at different frequencies shortly. Driving home ATM.
Edit: To clear, I was not posting while driving. I am about to drive.
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This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
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WarRaven said:
Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
WR
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This is likely what's happening.
Not familiar with CM10, but if there's a file /etc/thermald.conf you can raise the thresholds. But just do it a bit, the thermal limits are there to protect your phone from overheating.
Hmmm.. it only started running at the other frequency when I dialed them back. Could cpu spy not be reporting accurately?
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This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
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I've never had a keyboard-less phone that I could type accurately without looking.
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Cpu spy is wrong in this case.
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