Team Android - Watertown, NY - General Topics

Hey,
Just moved to Watertown, NY and was wondering if anyone local would be interested in joining a group of Android enthusiasts I'm trying to get started. Not entirely sure what the purpose could be, maybe make money buying, fixing, and selling phones/tablets. Or help people fix their devices. Or we could even develop our own ROM.
I'm not sure if anything like this has been done before, but I like to help people and love learning about Android. Maybe I'm not the only one? Let me know if you're interested or have any ideas! Thanks!
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[Resolved] Will any.android running phone ever run IOS???

Ok i know mmaaannny people.are thinking abour this everyday and i wantvto hear from you guys.
Do you think any abdroid.phone will run ios?, or will it forever be a lost cause?
I mean seriously i love iso so much i bought an iphone 4 just so i could use it. I now jave 2 phones when i know if lots of our very very very smart devs could work together and finish this in no time.
And if anyone successfully ports this, i will sell my iphone and donate $500 instantly.
Thanks for reading and post wat you think about this.
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abe_ahmed09 said:
Ok i know mmaaannny people.are thinking abour this everyday and i wantvto hear from you guys.
Do you think any abdroid.phone will run ios?, or will it forever be a lost cause?
I mean seriously i love iso so much i bought an iphone 4 just so i could use it. I now jave 2 phones when i know if lots of our very very very smart devs could work together and finish this in no time.
And if anyone successfully ports this, i will sell my iphone and donate $500 instantly.
Thanks for reading and post wat you think about this.
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I would love IOS on my android!
i think its a good idea that the devs should work togheter and bring IOS to our android phones
I don't think so just because it's closed source and driver issues and other stuff. But I would probably donate $500 also haha i'd love it.
They're trying. Just Google "iEmu Project". I would post a link, but I'm a "new" user. Haha.
But I do love my iOs as well and would love my T Mobile Galaxy S2 to run iOs.
I think it's impossible to emulate iOS on a other Device which is not from Apple, because iOs isn't Open Source.
me was interested too...i watched a video of an android phone running ios, but i don't know if it was real...in fact there are rom(miui)which are very similar to ios. if you want ios because you like icons,graphic...so flash a miui rom which is very very similar to ios...but if you want ios for using ios apps,games...now you can't but i hope someone solves this thing because it will be amazing use ios apps on android!!
abe_ahmed09 said:
Ok i know mmaaannny people.are thinking abour this everyday and i wantvto hear from you guys.
Do you think any abdroid.phone will run ios?, or will it forever be a lost cause?
I mean seriously i love iso so much i bought an iphone 4 just so i could use it. I now jave 2 phones when i know if lots of our very very very smart devs could work together and finish this in no time.
And if anyone successfully ports this, i will sell my iphone and donate $500 instantly.
Thanks for reading and post wat you think about this.
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IOS is not open source and apple wont allow it by license
Even when someone ports it for any Android decice its illegal.
So Mod please close this thread please
Have to agree. As even if someone did port it which would have to be done by rewritting the os drivers from the ground up. Apple would issue a C&D order followed by a lawsuite.
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Hopeful Game Idea, Developers needed

Hi there, I've got this idea, for an android game, but I am not so savy in coding, if you need a new challenge and would be willing to work with me let me know you can call me and we can talk things over and see where we can take this idea.
Am going to be using a concept I havent found in any games on the market as of right now but I know is very possible.
Illd be actively involved but I really dont know how to start this out on my own. So please help.
Thanks.
In case am making this thread in the wrong location can you please advice on where to better ask my question?
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Samsung/XDA part2

I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
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SamsungJohn said:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.
I am a dubious person and do not have expectations as I am still uncertain as to your intentions and more importantly you identity.
But if all is as you say I would take back to the powers that be, many are obviously unhappy with having to run outdated software in the form of the OS on what was at the time of purchase cutting edge hardware.
Give us a option. Give us a way to open the phone up and flash a AOSP option. A more Nexus-ish approach would be fantastic.
The Mainstream will have what they require in a stock configuration and we the ones that know what the potential of the device is can help you in pushing it to its limits.
Well I'm trying to get my post count up so I can comment in development. Anywho kudos to samsung.
Thanks again John, I'm excited and look forward to hearing your announcement!
For those skeptics, he's been trying to prove that he's legit;
http://img602.imageshack.us/i/20110211164013.jpg/
http://img193.imageshack.us/i/20110211205159.jpg/
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/20110211205212.jpg/
http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20110211205219.jpg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11300099&postcount=78
He already posted these in the captivate forum, let's show him a better welcome while we wait for final details!
mesmerbelly said:
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
akellar said:
Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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maybe samsung will use us for testing and maybe some tweaking...that would give us a chance to develop on it before its officially released and we would just plain out have it early, cause if you give the devs here like 2 weeks with just about anything it will be fully modded and running to its full potential!!!
props to xda devs!!!
Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
TwitterSamsungJohn
Hopefully their next approach works out better, they should have known better than to open a topic up to the entire forum
They should probably have moderator's from each device take questions from their users, then they could collaborate and get only the good questions answered. (and you wouldn't have to deal with trolls/flames/etc.)
SamsungJohn said:
Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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I suppose the question *since we can't ask specifics* is....
What can you do to help us and or what tools can you provide to the DEVs to help us get every bit of Awesome out of the device that we can.
Put the ball in your court.
Glad THIS thread is still open...
(Does SamsungJohn know how forums work?!?)
ANYhoo... I'm a give 'em enough rope to hang themselves kinda guy and I've actually been recommending the Mesmerize & Fascinate to friends that need new phones based solely on the great XDA community and what they can get those phones to do using only a bread tie, three pennies, and a jar of Cheez Wiz. Kudos to the devs once again!
I had no delusions that Samsung was a great manufacturer... my TV and DVD/home theater unit have had their share of problems... and I was also aware of the OS update delays in other product lines before I got my phone so that wasn't a big surprise either. BUT, I got in on the free phone thing through USCC and (if I EVER get my $80 rebate) I'll still consider being a Mesmerize owner/user a WIN.
What I see here is a classic example of a company that has the OBVIOUS solution within their grasp and they are actively choosing to find an alternative to it that will provide them SHORT TERM monetary gains. They have set themselves up for failure and they have only themselves to blame. Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
Guys if you haven't read through it, that topic was closed by a moderator because it was an experiment that failed miserably. (because the general XDA population isn't very good at reading and following instruction, and it turned into a huge flamefest.)
John has been confirmed by several sources to be who he says he is (at least works for samsung) and is here working with the XDA administration to (in an organized way) swap feedback with the developing community (on all samsung products).
On a side note Supercurio has been in correspondence with Korean Samsung and has been also pushing for this very thing to happen, but from what I've read i'ts pure coincidence that John arrived when he did.
Anyway, sounds to me like we need to be patient as information IS coming as soon as they figure out the best way to go about this whole thing. This is how I've taken things from what I've read today, don't quote me....
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Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
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In all fairness Crowdsourceing is what the whole AOSP is about. Android was and is developed to be Open Source. So if a company is reaching out to the community it can't be all bad.
I just think that for the most part a lot of us here are end users.
While I am sure that others like me want to, and strive to learn more, we simply will not be on a par with the current crop of DEVs as they progress as well.
I think the idea of a couple DEVs from each of the respective forums of the variations of the SGS platforms being in contact is a smart idea.
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
In fact a meeting of the minds in a channel of choice with only participants having voice would be nice as well.
I do understand and hope that SamsungJohn does know as well that most here are simply end users and just wanna know when we will get xxx or yyy ..
I will now go back to my corner get my Java Text out and see if I can learn, learn, learn....
If samsung really wants to get in good with the developement community, they would be wise to make it entirely official, and go to engadget or someone with a press release. If you want to gain our trust, give everyone the AOSP build.
Do I want sammy to be community-minded? Absolutely.
Am I going to trust one guy who says he works for our manufacturer? Well, let's get to the root of that. Do I trust the company who created out hardware? Not at all.
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Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
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Yeah I frequent the irc with those guys and we're always willing to help people... I think a lot of people come to forums just to get help and information rather than to develop and theme and stuff like we do. It would probably be more beneficial for Samsungjohn to maybe set up a date on the irc and say like "I will be on from x time to y time" and then people can get on and ask questions and talk about things, and more of the power users who use the irc regularly will get a chance to maybe learn some stuff or help out Samsung.
It would also make it much easier to control, if things get out of hand then the OPs can simply kick or ban the culprits.
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Development Coming Soon? (AndroidSpin Posted My Article, Skilled Dev Willing to help)

I've been trying my hardest contacting many people to get development started with this phone. Since not many Experienced Devs would be looking the way of this phone i've been trying to reach out.
I Contacted AndroidSpin as well and they are very well known android news site (which i check everyday) and managed to get an article out about helping with development with our phone (awsome, thanks AndroidSpin!) See the Article Here
Hopefully in the Near future we will have a working recovery and ROMs/Mods/Themes Rolling out. A Very experienced Dev has Contacted me Back Saying he is Willing to Help but nothing is promised as he doesnt have a Sidekick 4G at hand. But he is willing to make a working recovery for us so lets see what happens .
He will Definitely need testers.. i will be one ofcourse hope others are interested in seeing development stir up over here aswell !
nice to hear about.....i have been checked this 4rum everyday to looking for a news but still......hopefully something will come out soon....:x im willing to be the tester for this as well.....
I just want to say thank you to all of you working on this. As a former Hiptop user and open-source enthusiast, I took issue with the closed platform that Danger had installed on it and ended up ditching it. When I heard the new Sidekicks would be running Android I jumped at the chance to have one, only to find out that development was lacking interest due to the stigma of the old Hiptops as phones for teenagers. It's wonderful to see more people getting interested in this and I hope to help as much as I can in the future. Thank everyone again and happy hacking to you all!
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I'm very interested in getting development going for this phone as well, I don't have the time or the skill set to cook roms myself but I am more than willing to test and give feedback. I know a lot of devs aren't interested since they spent last year with the galaxy s line of phones and there are new dual cores to play with, but I think this phone is really unique and could definitely have a big following because of the fact that it is soo different than the sea of slabs out there. I hope development picks up, there are plenty of custom roms out there already built for the galaxy s line that would only need to be tweaked to work with this device so hopefully that picks up soon.
I'm very interested in helping with development, came from the G1 and had fun with that. I was trying to figure out how to compile ClockworkMod but because Samsung uses initRamFS rather than a regular makefile, I was unable to figure it out. I'm very open to testing and trying to help as best I can with developing on this phone, feel free to e-mail me if anyone has any need to test anything, I'm always checking my e-mail. sduvick AT gmail.com. For those who understand the compiling of clockworkmod, I would suggest working from the Vibrant version, as the buttons are all mapped right, we just need to add the storage driver so that the sdcard can be mounted.
I would love to be a tester please keep me posted.
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+Thanks.
I'm still stock and would be willing to help some dev's

[APP] (2.2+) Fighting PTSD |05.APR.2013|

This is my first app so bare with me. This is an app for my blog about my struggles with combat PTSD and alcoholism. It is a free app. I am trying to get the word out about Soldiers and the struggles they return home too face. Just because they are home does not mean they are not still fighting a battle. Please check it out and give me feedback. I have been a member here for a while and have learned so much from this site so I figured I would post it on here. I did use a app creator site to design it but I am currently trying to learn to develop it from scratch. Thank you!
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http://tinyurl.com/ckkxs7x
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anyone?
Anyone here with an interest? No Soldiers here? I just need some feedback. I know I took the easy way with the app builder but I plan on learning sdk and eclipse. ADHD kills me when I try to learn lol
We've all had our turn in the barrel brother stay strong. Counseling and therapy helps trust me.. Once you get past the pride and seek help you will get much further and get past your demons. Trust me I did.
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I have thats why I created the blog and app
Never been a soldier, not yet at least, but fully support your efforts. PTSD in vets is not really fully understood by the majority of civilians and there definitely need to be more positive outlets for those struggling. I would suggest perhaps also focusing on the families of vets suffering PTSD, addiction, etc. A strong support system clearly can help a lot and helping the family members understand it more might also be useful. In terms of just the app itself, you can tell its young but as you said you're learning so that's not a big deal. Just wanted to say keep up the good work and I appreciate everything you soldiers have done and continue to do.
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Thank you. While the blog is my struggles I have a facebook page with my wife that will be used to help everyone who is effected.
Nice to see an app with a good cause!
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Need a developer
My ability to concentrate is horrible so I am pretty sure its going to take me years to even make the simplest of apps from scratch. Plus I am a active duty Drill Sergeant so I have very little time. I wish Google wouldn't have quit supporting app inventor. Is anyone interested in helping me develop this app from the bottom up? There would be no profit. Any money made from ads or anything would go into a account I plan to establish once I can get registered as a non profit. I will be making nothing from this nor would whoever helped me. This app is purely for raising awareness and hopefully eventually raising money to go towards Veteran groups. If someone would want to help out please let me know. Thank you for considering.
Where you a DS at? I'm sure you can find some geek to put on CQ with you and help. I mean geek as a term of endearment since I was a 31/25 series.
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Hi painandpleasure, I'm not a vet, but most of my family was, but none saw combat. Regardless, I just want to give you a HUGE THANKS for your service and sacrifice. You are the real heroes. Good luck with the app, even if it helps one person, it'll have been worth the effort.
In terms of learning to develop, much of it is just trial and error. You have to be willing to try something and let it all go if it doesn't work. Start by mapping out what you're trying to do, then search for examples you can reference and go from there. I know it's not earth shattering advice, but its something that's worked well for me. There's also a specific developers only section on XDA, maybe post there if you need help.
Best of luck and God bless,
Tovo
sttovo said:
Hi painandpleasure, I'm not a vet, but most of my family was, but none saw combat. Regardless, I just want to give you a HUGE THANKS for your service and sacrifice. You are the real heroes. Good luck with the app, even if it helps one person, it'll have been worth the effort.
In terms of learning to develop, much of it is just trial and error. You have to be willing to try something and let it all go if it doesn't work. Start by mapping out what you're trying to do, then search for examples you can reference and go from there. I know it's not earth shattering advice, but its something that's worked well for me. There's also a specific developers only section on XDA, maybe post there if you need help.
Best of luck and God bless,
Tovo
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Thank you. Eventually I'll probably learn. I found out mit is supporting app developer so I'm gonna start there then import it to eclipse.
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