[REQ]xamarin/XobotOS port for our XT720? - Milestone XT720 General

Hello folks. Been some time since I actively posted something. The last time I did, we came up with Donations for Dexter and his Froyo port for XT720.
Now I'm sure you're already heard or read about the work done by Xamarin to port Android from Java into C#. I'm wondering why no one has not done anything about it yet? I'm not a software expert and I would like to genuinely know why this is not attempted. If it is possible, I would like to know what would be required. I am of course, ready to part with some donation in the form of coffee money to the dev or contributors who would like to attempt this. The Xamarin team has already posted the XobotOS in github.
The money could actually be used to get the developers license for Xamarin's Mono as a perk.
Your thoughts please.

I have come across this OS and given its said advantages and features I would like to try it out myself.
Off-topic: I would like to try out Tizen too. Android seems too bloated for my phone.
Edit: I'm no developer

OMGN00B said:
I have come across this OS and given its said advantages and features I would like to try it out myself.
Off-topic: I would like to try out Tizen too. Android seems too bloated for my phone.
Edit: I'm no developer
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I want to try them too. Do you know where can I download these files and how to flash them?

Will not work we have a locked bootloader.
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Blast the bootloader and to hell with motorola. No unlocked bootloader, no money, no smartphone. IF I buy another smartphone I'll make sure it will have unlocked the boot-loader else I'm better off with a 3G netbook or a dumbphone.

Will not work wont pass signature check you will end bricking your phone.
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I don't know a lot about xamarin but I think it probably only replaces the userland (replaces Android's java-like dalvik VM with a C#/mono VM). Hijacking would probably still be possible. My understanding is that xoboros is really a proof-of-concept at this point and I don't know how widely it's been ported. I suspect you need a more open device than XT720--some of our proprietaries are JNI things and I assume Mono isn't ABI compatible.
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DEV: WebOS on iPhone :)

I am starting a new project to port webOS over to the iPhone 3G 3GS and 4.
I have a website where i will be posting updates with project info. Also I am looking for someone with Linux experience as i have only a Windows 7 PC.
I need about 3 more people to help me with this.
Any takers?
Please PM if you think you can help thank you.
vdcmini said:
I am starting a new project to port webOS over to the iPhone 3G 3GS and 4.
I have a website where i will be posting updates with project info. Also I am looking for someone with Linux experience as i have only a Windows 7 PC.
I need about 3 more people to help me with this.
Any takers?
Please PM if you think you can help thank you.
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Any three people? Or do you have specific skill-sets that are required? What skill-sets do you bring to the project?
-- Rod
rwhitby said:
Any three people? Or do you have specific skill-sets that are required? What skill-sets do you bring to the project?
-- Rod
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What i bring is the website to post fast download links and a blog, also, the phone. lol
I need someone who can extract the firmware though.
vdcmini said:
What i bring is the website to post fast download links and a blog, also, the phone. lol
I need someone who can extract the firmware though.
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So you have a website, a blog, a webOS phone and an iPhone. That's a pretty unique skillset. I wonder why no-one with that set of things tried to port webOS to the iPhone before? Once you've got that skillset the rest must be pretty straight-forward, no?
BTW, you can get links to download the webOS firmware from HP's official servers here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions
Note that redistributing it (or any modifications of it) is illegal, so you may want to figure out that small issue first in your project plan ...
Good luck with your endeavour.
-- Rod
Are you being sarcastic, Rod? I suppose he deserves it by the know-how he puts forward. So if I get it right, he just has a website and wants others to develop and get the reward. Pretty nice business plan!
He also has a dream...the same one I have but I have an EVO 3d... Which I think should be easier...
Rod I was thinking can't it be done part way like webpage 2.1 on pre- using meta scripts?
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Rod would you like a pre-? As a donation?
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ceyo14 said:
Rod would you like a pre-? As a donation?
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Thanks very much for your offer.
Unfortunately, none of our developers use a Pre- these days for anything other than webOS 1.4.5 legacy testing.
I'm personally using a 1.4GHz 16GB HP Pre 3.
-- Rod
I dont get the point of it. Iphones are expensive and run unique hardware only made by apple. With that expense comes the seamless apple experience ,decent reliability and the proprietary is operating system. If your going to throw all that away,why even pay for the iphone to begin with. Their hardware is really no better than the stuff from htc. Htc hardware on the other hand is well understood and in fact,is very similar to the hardware in the touchpad.
Personally,I dont see the point of webOS on anything now. It honestly has few game changing features. What it does have is a unique UI that many people like. Rather than port webOS to other platforms,why not make a UI for android that takes the best things from webOS and throws out the bad ones,and fixes what needs to be fixed. Then you have something
really great,with a great UI,the ability to run android aps,but without many of the drawbacks of android.
As for your project,I doubt you will get any takers. What I suggest is you simply learn to do the work yourself. Start by downloading a Linux distro and installed it on an old pc.

Petition to former SGS4G developers to return to the forum

As you all know, nearly two weeks ago the long awaited source code for the Android Gingerbread software was released. This had been a joyous occasion for many of us who had been patiently awaiting its release in hopes that it would lead to working versions of Cyanogenmod and MIUI on our phones, as well as several kernel modifications that were not previously possible. The first few hours of speculation turned into days, which turned into weeks, with the promises of development yet to be fulfilled. As it turns out the fears of some of you had come true, that the few developers that were left lost interest in the Galaxy S 4G for other projects.
While people like Raver have actively stuck with us, there has been a dead silence by those who were previously the most visible on this forum. Whitehawkx who has left us for the Galaxy S2, Dsexton who had left for lack of a separate computer,and Dr Honk who God knows where he is. Krylon ive seen mention working on a kernel once but with little detail. These were some of the best we had and we need to make it overwhelmingly obvious to them that they are wanted and needed here. So I propose that we take the time to let them know that the source code they've wanted and needed is now available and ready to be worked. Youre welcome to write up your own words for a message, though heres something I threw together along with the public contact info for the devs.
Feel free to reach out to any other devs who have not been listed here or from other forums.
Update: Dev's emails were removed by site mods. If you would like to email the people below, you can readily find their email in their user profiles and in their Donate To Me links.
Whitehawkx:
[URL]http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=3051621[/URL]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=3051621
Dr Honk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=2785735
Dsexton702:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=3954931
“Hello (dev screen name),
This is (your screen name) from the Galaxy S 4G forums on XDA. If you haven’t heard, the source code for Gingerbread we have been eagerly awaiting was finally released a few weeks ago for our phones. With the source finally released, the limitations our devs had faced before in developing for the SGS4G are now gone, and the path is clear for development of CM7 and MIUI for our phones. I have noticed you have not been around the SGS4G forums recently, but I along with all the other forum members have been hopefully awaiting your return to developing for our phones with the expertise you have shown in all of your many other projects for the SGS4G. As well, the lack of devs on the forum have left many of the still poplar ROM’s unmaintained and not updated to the latest official release. Please come back to developing for the SGS4G for all of us who have spent hours testing and using your ROM’s and show us what your talents can turn these phones into.
Thank you”
I think this is good intended but i fear it wont change anything.
Dont forget soma and airfluip who has been developing for our phones recently.
Krylin said in twitter that he will begin working in a ROM based on GB for our phones. Although he said he will start it today if he doesnt its still good news. I know he can make kernels and roms. Also raver is working. Dsexton said he will get a computer soon and that he needed break. White.... I dont know he droppwd when ki3 leaked. But oh well, lets enjoy or wait.
I've been lurking these forums since this phone came out, with the occasional post here and there.
I have seen people waiting months just for root.
I remember kb5 enhanced was our only ROM for times without end, just to have that developer throw a fit at Mr.Clown for mistakingly closing his thread and leave us hanging.
I remember following Krylon on twitter for what seemed like an eternity, until we finally had cwm on our phones.
Then came the good times.
New roms coming out just about every week, themes, mods, and all the goodies we see on our forums today.
New developers popping up, the formation of teams like aerodonk and acid.
Now we are back in one of these silent periods.
It seems like all development stopped.
But one thing I've learned from these forums is that patience is a virtue.
We go from bad times to good times, to bad again, and so on.
I'm sure there is progress being done right now.
No matter how little, our how long it's taking, it will come.
And a new life cycle will start for our phones.
We just gotta hang tight, get through this metamorphose, and then our phone will come out, greater then before!
Saw on krylons twitter something about doing another rom based off of the gb update so that looks promising.
Also its not just the sgs4g. I own a sensation as well and things have really slowed there too.
I understand everybodys frustration with the length of time that it is taking for us to get new roms. But you have to understand these guys do this in their spare time. And yes, it is true that because of Samsung and t mobile taking forever to release a GB for us made some of the devs loose interest and move to other devices; however, we still have Raver and Krylon on or side, Dsexton will be coming back soon, and hopefully we can get Drhonk and Whitehawx back if not for developing but for at least guidance, tips, and support. I for one have started trying to learn how to do some of this but without a Linux machine it is a bit difficult. But there is no reason some of you can't chip in and try to learn this stuff too. Not to override the few true devs we have, but to assist them.
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Hi Thomas
Please share your knowledge source. I am willing to learn as well, though to tell you the truth, moding and theming couldn't care me less, I'm always into performance and reliability, as well as good RTL and foreign language support (like in CM and MIUI).
Other than that, I'm always on stock theme.
I'm no dev, but I'm considering to become one in the future.
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Hi Thomas
Please share your knowledge source. I am willing to learn as well, though to tell you the truth, moding and theming couldn't care me less, I'm always into performance and reliability, as well as good RTL and foreign language support (like in CM and MIUI).
Other than that, I'm always on stock theme.
I'm no dev, but I'm considering to become one in the future.
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My biggest resources are picking the brain of RaverX3X and google. You can do most everything on a windows machine except mod kernels and make an Odin .tar (for those you need Linux or the ability to run Linux in a vm environment). There are quite a few tutorials out there. You just have to download the right tools to do it, have lots of spare time to devote to it and the gonads to test it.lol... Pm me later with specific questions and I can give you direct links to tutorials that might help you as well.
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i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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josepresas said:
i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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Might not be such a bad idea.
josepresas said:
i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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Might want to add the disclaimer it should be officially supported
josepresas said:
i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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Interesting idea. The only issue I see is what if we collect money and no one steps up to the plate. Would everyone just get a refund or would the money go towards another cause?
thomas.raines said:
My biggest resources are picking the brain of RaverX3X and google. You can do most everything on a windows machine except mod kernels and make an Odin .tar (for those you need Linux or the ability to run Linux in a vm environment). There are quite a few tutorials out there. You just have to download the right tools to do it, have lots of spare time to devote to it and the gonads to test it.lol... Pm me later with specific questions and I can give you direct links to tutorials that might help you as well.
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You don't necessarily need Linux in order to make an Odin flashable tar file, I personally use Cygwin to make the modem packages.
Yes I am aware that Cygwin is Linux-like command line, but it is by no means Linux in a VM environment.
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Interesting idea. The only issue I see is what if we collect money and no one steps up to the plate. Would everyone just get a refund or would the money go towards another cause?
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I would rather set a bounty for ICS. CM9 would be a better goal in my opinion.
what happened to CM8? did i miss something?
candler33w said:
I would rather set a bounty for ICS. CM9 would be a better goal in my opinion.
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Well yea, a fund to get us any of the major ROMs cm9 miui or ICS etc..
And idk what we would do with the money if no one delivers.. ideas?
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I remember when i had the galaxy vibrant early this year i was so into the device cause they were a lots of roms here to choose from and thats one of my concerns now for this device now. If you go to the vibrant section there are a lots of 2.2 biulds 2.2.1, 2.3 ,2.3.3 etc etc etc. And they are all different. Including from stock to MIUI and htc Sence. As well as gingerbread and honeycomb. So my question is why the devs didnt work on some builds like those for this device. From my end i really dont care about what number of the OS is as long the build is stable, fast, bloatware free, custom ringtones, wallpapers, and other great thing that i did manage to see on my old vibrant that i no longer own :/
Yesterday my older sister got the galaxy s 2 for tmobile and its so awsome. I have envy in me now jajajajaja xD
josepresas said:
Well yea, a fund to get us any of the major ROMs cm9 miui or ICS etc..
And idk what we would do with the money if no one delivers.. ideas?
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I would leave it as a standing bounty like they did with the HP Touchpad. Someone will jump on it if its large enough.
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jager555 said:
what happened to CM8? did i miss something?
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CM8 was reserved for Honeycomb so ICS will be CM9
crackpot said:
You don't necessarily need Linux in order to make an Odin flashable tar file, I personally use Cygwin to make the modem packages.
Yes I am aware that Cygwin is Linux-like command line, but it is by no means Linux in a VM environment.
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This is true. Which is what I am learning to use now, but I forgot to add that part... Thanks for catching my error. From my understanding, you can use it to modify a kernel as well, but i'm not having very good luck with it yet.
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thomas.raines said:
This is true. Which is what I am learning to use now, but I forgot to add that part... Thanks for catching my error. From my understanding, you can use it to modify a kernel as well, but i'm not having very good luck with it yet.
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This is mere conjecture on my part, but I would assume that you can modify the kernel in Windows as long as your text editor supports Unix-type line endings (Notepad++ works nicely), and then compile it using presumably gcc in Cygwin. Again, this is merely speculation on my part, having only built a Linux kernel on Linux, for my desktop.

ROM Development Guide?

Remember about a month ago when XDA came out with a book about rooting and flashing ROMs?
I was just wondering if there were any books (or guides maybe) like that, that showed how to make ROMs from scratch, not through all of these annoying kitchens. (Don't really like them, they make me feel like a noob... of course I suppose I am)
So whatever, that's really about it. Thanks guys!
(Oh by the way, I have tried Nero's ROM guide and wasn't a huge fan, also I'm getting another computer solely for the purpose of Ubuntu too if that matters at all.)
...subscribing, also just out of interest I'm trying out Lubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 server too!
jdgfdqtuzs said:
...subscribing, also just out of interest I'm trying out Lubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 server too!
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Pretty awesome, never heard of Lubuntu before now. I'd consider it, but any recent tutorials I've looked at use Ubuntu. (Sadly though, they're ridiculous! For example, there was a post about compiling Jelly Bean from source code, and its practically not even in English! I mean I know some coding and all, but despite that, nothing is explained. It just do this like "do this and then do this and this and then we're done. An don't worry, there won't be a troubleshooting page because we know all you out there are experts.)
Whatever, that's my rant. Hopefully a mod will come along some time soon and point us in the right direction. Fingers crossed. :highfive:
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Pretty awesome, never heard of Lubuntu before now. I'd consider it, but any recent tutorials I've looked at use Ubuntu. (Sadly though, they're ridiculous! For example, there was a post about compiling Jelly Bean from source code, and its practically not even in English! I mean I know some coding and all, but despite that, nothing is explained. It just do this like "do this and then do this and this and then we're done. An don't worry, there won't be a troubleshooting page because we know all you out there are experts.)
Whatever, that's my rant. Hopefully a mod will come along some time soon and point us in the right direction. Fingers crossed. :highfive:
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Lubuntu is basically a lighter version of Ubuntu, still runs on the same principles as in version number etc. I understand your frustration with regards to where to find "how to" code, but, my view on tutorials is exactly that where aspects of what you're supposed to be doing are not explained. I think we need to be looking into another category for books, e.g. a coding practice used for android. See what happens
Yeah I suppose you're right. Off to Google/Amazon!
(of course if anyone sees this and would still like to post, by all means, do so!)
EDIT: After a god half an hour of searching, I think I finally found it. The problem is, you're gonna need $50 if you want to snag it.
http://www.amazon.com/Android-Foren...-Security/dp/1597496510/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk
It is by far the most in detail book I've seen. Just look at the overview of the chapters! It's just like what I was looking for! Woohoo!
Oh man $50. Hard being a broke student.
I would love to learn to. Anyone can tell me where to start? What languages i need to learn (java, linux, c++, etc)?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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If your tomato just so happens to be running a version of android that can support the Kindle app, you can actually get it for about $40 too...
And while I'm not an expert in this field (in fact I really don't know too much) I do know that android uses java and converts it to another language using the dalvik machine. So if you really have no where to start, try learning some java.
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If your tomato just so happens to be running a version of android that can support the Kindle app, you can actually get it for about $40 too...
And while I'm not an expert in this field (in fact I really don't know too much) I do know that android uses java and converts it to another language using the dalvik machine. So if you really have no where to start, try learning some java.
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Offtopic: I think tomatoes dont taste good at all.
I'm a fan, but that's just me. (end of off topic conversation before a mod takes down the thread.)
thebeastglasser said:
I'm a fan, but that's just me. (end of off topic conversation before a mod takes down the thread.)
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(nah I love this convo) I think theyre pretty sour.
Thanks
This is a great guide thanks
Thanks, good guide !
That book looks more related to security than anything else. Anything for development in particular?
If you look at the insides though, it shows how to create the internals, with step by step pieces. Chapter 7 (I think) also has 6 popular methods to obtain root access.
Look at the sneak peek and read the summaries of the chapters. It's definitely going on my Christmas list.
EDIT: As for anything solely for development, I have yet to find anything like that. Hence the reason for posting this thread.
Well, my tomato can support kindle.
Anyway, great thread. Hope someone who can help us reads this and decides to help us further.
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Bump.
We still need support smart dev guys.
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[ROM-Petition] Petition for Ubuntu touch on the HOS

Hello People,
I read a thread which started a petition to get XDA -Dev users to test the Ubuntu Touch OS on the HOS. I recently checked the petition again and saw that it was only 250 submissions short. i dont know about you guys, but I would really enjoy using and of course testing and reporting the Ubuntu Touch OS. This is why I ask you guys to sign this, if you also want to see Ubuntu Touch to get to the HTC One S.
ww w. change. org/petitions/canonical-use-users-of-xda-developers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
Kogadin
To the Mods, If i really need to remove the link, because i am still under the required posts, I will. I just wanted to get this petition out there again
if i find the original thread I will link it, or if someone else finds it.
kogadin said:
Hello People,
I read a thread which started a petition to get XDA -Dev users to test the Ubuntu Touch OS on the HOS. I recently checked the petition again and saw that it was only 250 submissions short. i dont know about you guys, but I would really enjoy using and of course testing and reporting the Ubuntu Touch OS. This is why I ask you guys to sign this, if you also want to see Ubuntu Touch to get to the HTC One S.
ww w. change. org/petitions/canonical-use-users-of-xda-developers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
Kogadin
To the Mods, If i really need to remove the link, because i am still under the required posts, I will. I just wanted to get this petition out there again
if i find the original thread I will link it, or if someone else finds it.
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In my experience; trying to force developers to do something just because you want it done never works. I know that is probably not how you meant the petition to look but in my mind it looks more like "See, here is the number of people that want this. Now make it happen" instead of "Hey, there are a bunch of people on this list that would love if you could make this, but it's completely up to you.":silly:
Well i didnt start the petition and its not specifically for the HOS but rather a petition so the XDA users, who generally have more knowledge about OSs and ROMs than the average consumer, can test the OS and report bugs etc. This in return, should help Ubuntu Touch to be as bug free as possible from release on. I do get your point, i just think its not like forcing a single dev to make something, as it is The Ubuntu Team working on the OS, additionally the Ubuntu Team would get a huge community base to test their operating system, and report bugs they find.
Kogadin
I frequent the Dev section and basically so far many devs want to build Ubuntu for the HOS, however it just isn't that easy. The lack of ROM hasn't been the result of a lack of trying.
Somebody's out there trying man http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206904 just be patient and have faith.. I've seen youtube videos of it running on the One X so hopefully it will be running on our devices in the near future.. What these devs have is a talent. I wish I could do what they do...
Found that thread after I wrote this one. I was really excited. And I really hope that the developers will succeed in porting ubuntu to our awesome phone
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It would be nice to have this os to test but to be honest I'm not a fan and don't think its a great product. I'm sticking to android but good luck
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[Q] Tegra Zone Shield APK? The app that launches with the shield button.

Anyone got a copy of that? With a shield the app that launches when you hit the shield button I need that exact app.
Looking to try spoofing tegra in my nexus 4 to try streaming with a normal controller
Thanks!
I hope someone makes this happen, due to it streaming I can't see hardware being a limitation.
It could be like the Ouya framework though... Dependent on the actual device.
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I sure hope someone will be able to release the APK. I would be interested in using it on my Galaxy S3.
It's not the same as the TegraZone already on the Play store?
Furyus said:
It's not the same as the TegraZone already on the Play store?
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No, it is not. And while I can't speak too much about it, it's not just a side-load onto any device. So don't be holding your breath about someone uploading the APK and getting all the features running this week.
right....because it sooo hard to make rudimentary changes to a launcher.
The APK is called Dashboard.apk. It resides in /system/app and can be launched as a normal app.
?? Then why did you say the opposite not 2 posts ago?
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
right....because it sooo hard to make rudimentary changes to a launcher.
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Let me know when you get this working, since you love trolling. One of us has been helping everyone to the largest extent they can. The other is just demanding a bunch of stuff since he doesn't want to buy one himself.
I will personally post the full system image tonight if it isn't already uploaded by then. And you can go to town, I'm seriously curious about how much you can get working this week, since its obviously so easy.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
?? Then why did you say the opposite not 2 posts ago?
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It won't do anything. It will crash on another device.
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You're the one going around posting false information. And asking for a system dump is not "demanding a bunch of stuff".
If you want to get into a pissing match about who's done more to help the XDA community, you're gonna lose. I've done alot more than post some roms for the EVO 3D. If anyone's a troll here its you.
And 20x more people have found my comments helpful. So you're still trolling. What false info have I given?
Unlike you i'm not a thanks whore, and the thanks meter wasn't even implemented when I started posting on XDA. I have released numerous firmware images and sbf files that would otherwise have not been obtainable, saving countless devices in the process(See the technician only Xoom recovery file that was the only way to restore a bricked Xoom for months after release). That's a little more important to me than some likes.
Oh and False info? You just said not a few moments ago it runs like a normal app.
Now now boys, calm down.
I must admit I am on legions side on most of his points so far. This is a community forum for the general public and what we do here is Share and Mod. I do believe "agrabren" that as you are part of the Nvidia team you don't want to see parts of your product ported and such, but the product is now in the hands of the user and so now it is up to us what we do with our purchases.
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Oh and False info? You just said not a few moments ago it runs like a normal app.
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It didn't occur to me that I might need to explain that in more detail, but in hind-sight, it does need clarification. What I mean, and meant from the beginning, is that the framework doesn't issue any "magic" to launch that app. There's no special "back-door" entry into that APK which makes it work on the device, nor is the Intent anyway modified. My natural instinct is to distrust every aspect of a system app that doesn't sideload correctly. In this case, I gave extra insight into areas of attack on getting the APK to load on other devices by eliminating one method a company could use for an app that has a special method of launch (the center button on the device).
So my statement, properly clarified, is that the APK itself has nothing special about it in regards to Intent launching or its AndroidManifest.xml, but that without some efforts with other components, will not run directly on another device, especially one based on a non-Tegra device.
poo-tang said:
Now now boys, calm down.
I must admit I am on legions side on most of his points so far. This is a community forum for the general public and what we do here is Share and Mod. I do believe "agrabren" that as you are part of the Nvidia team you don't want to see parts of your product ported and such, but the product is now in the hands of the user and so now it is up to us what we do with our purchases.
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Great, except I've actually been trying to help most people with most parts of ROM sharing and modding. I've already said that I'm going to post the OTA1 system and boot images, in their official entirety, as well as I'll probably post a rooted version as well. I've been helping people prevent bricking their devices.
If you'd rather I just go away, I'm happy to. But I wouldn't expect anyone else from NVIDIA to be reaching out to get CM10.2 up and running on this device, or to get a custom recovery up and running quickly. I've never objected to him getting the system image, I'm all for it being uploaded and even promised to do so. I'm trying to help clarify what will work easily and what won't. I even answered the question that nobody else had, the APK he's asking for (because he didn't know the name of it) is Dashboard.apk, and it resides in /system/app. His contributions right now to the SHIELD forums on XDA are: Give me the system image, give me some APKs that may be on the device! That rubs me the wrong way as a person who has spent plenty of time developing ROMs for different phones, helping fix kernels for multiple CM-supported devices, and who has *always* fought for companies to give to the community. Unlockable bootloader? Yeah, I was part of that push. I'm trying my best to get as much source as possible made public.
Maybe I came off poorly in this thread (because this was after the thread asking for an apk that has only been demoed at tradeshows and special press meetings). So I'm sorry if I came off wrong, but while everyone else is helping each other out, he's just demanding stuff.
I what world do you live in that posting a thread asking for a system image and a possibly pre-loaded app qualifies as "demanding stuff"? Why should I have to have done anything to be worthy of your approval to post such a thread?
There is a huge conflict of interest with you both working for Nvidia and unofficially releasing official firmware and hacks, so frankly no, I don't trust you being involved in this devices xda development.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I what world do you live in that posting a thread asking for a system image and a possibly pre-loaded app qualifies as "demanding stuff"? Why should I have to have done anything to be worthy of your approval to post such a thread?
There is a huge conflict of interest with you both working for Nvidia and unofficially releasing official firmware and hacks, so frankly no, I don't trust you being involved in this devices xda development.
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So a guy who doesn't own the device is not going to trust ROMs I make for a device he doesn't own. Oops, no loss to me. You can go back to trolling, I'm done with your thread. You have your system image and boot image in either manner you want it.
Oops, my bad. It wasn't your thread, you just came into this thread to troll me. My mistake.
Raptor, if you check in the Android Development section, you'll find the system images. I'd suggest the ZIP version, because it's both smaller and already extracted. The system.img is an uncompress image to be flashed via fastboot in case someone messes up their system or boot partitions.

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