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[Resolved] Will any.android running phone ever run IOS???

Ok i know mmaaannny people.are thinking abour this everyday and i wantvto hear from you guys.
Do you think any abdroid.phone will run ios?, or will it forever be a lost cause?
I mean seriously i love iso so much i bought an iphone 4 just so i could use it. I now jave 2 phones when i know if lots of our very very very smart devs could work together and finish this in no time.
And if anyone successfully ports this, i will sell my iphone and donate $500 instantly.
Thanks for reading and post wat you think about this.
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abe_ahmed09 said:
Ok i know mmaaannny people.are thinking abour this everyday and i wantvto hear from you guys.
Do you think any abdroid.phone will run ios?, or will it forever be a lost cause?
I mean seriously i love iso so much i bought an iphone 4 just so i could use it. I now jave 2 phones when i know if lots of our very very very smart devs could work together and finish this in no time.
And if anyone successfully ports this, i will sell my iphone and donate $500 instantly.
Thanks for reading and post wat you think about this.
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I would love IOS on my android!
i think its a good idea that the devs should work togheter and bring IOS to our android phones

I don't think so just because it's closed source and driver issues and other stuff. But I would probably donate $500 also haha i'd love it.

They're trying. Just Google "iEmu Project". I would post a link, but I'm a "new" user. Haha.
But I do love my iOs as well and would love my T Mobile Galaxy S2 to run iOs.

I think it's impossible to emulate iOS on a other Device which is not from Apple, because iOs isn't Open Source.

me was interested too...i watched a video of an android phone running ios, but i don't know if it was real...in fact there are rom(miui)which are very similar to ios. if you want ios because you like icons,graphic...so flash a miui rom which is very very similar to ios...but if you want ios for using ios apps,games...now you can't but i hope someone solves this thing because it will be amazing use ios apps on android!!

abe_ahmed09 said:
Ok i know mmaaannny people.are thinking abour this everyday and i wantvto hear from you guys.
Do you think any abdroid.phone will run ios?, or will it forever be a lost cause?
I mean seriously i love iso so much i bought an iphone 4 just so i could use it. I now jave 2 phones when i know if lots of our very very very smart devs could work together and finish this in no time.
And if anyone successfully ports this, i will sell my iphone and donate $500 instantly.
Thanks for reading and post wat you think about this.
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IOS is not open source and apple wont allow it by license
Even when someone ports it for any Android decice its illegal.
So Mod please close this thread please

Have to agree. As even if someone did port it which would have to be done by rewritting the os drivers from the ground up. Apple would issue a C&D order followed by a lawsuite.
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Samsung/XDA part2

I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
TwitterSamsungJohn

SamsungJohn said:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
TwitterSamsungJohn
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I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.

Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.

I am a dubious person and do not have expectations as I am still uncertain as to your intentions and more importantly you identity.
But if all is as you say I would take back to the powers that be, many are obviously unhappy with having to run outdated software in the form of the OS on what was at the time of purchase cutting edge hardware.
Give us a option. Give us a way to open the phone up and flash a AOSP option. A more Nexus-ish approach would be fantastic.
The Mainstream will have what they require in a stock configuration and we the ones that know what the potential of the device is can help you in pushing it to its limits.

Well I'm trying to get my post count up so I can comment in development. Anywho kudos to samsung.

Thanks again John, I'm excited and look forward to hearing your announcement!
For those skeptics, he's been trying to prove that he's legit;
http://img602.imageshack.us/i/20110211164013.jpg/
http://img193.imageshack.us/i/20110211205159.jpg/
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/20110211205212.jpg/
http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20110211205219.jpg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11300099&postcount=78
He already posted these in the captivate forum, let's show him a better welcome while we wait for final details!

mesmerbelly said:
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.

akellar said:
Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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maybe samsung will use us for testing and maybe some tweaking...that would give us a chance to develop on it before its officially released and we would just plain out have it early, cause if you give the devs here like 2 weeks with just about anything it will be fully modded and running to its full potential!!!
props to xda devs!!!

Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
TwitterSamsungJohn

Hopefully their next approach works out better, they should have known better than to open a topic up to the entire forum
They should probably have moderator's from each device take questions from their users, then they could collaborate and get only the good questions answered. (and you wouldn't have to deal with trolls/flames/etc.)

SamsungJohn said:
Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
TwitterSamsungJohn
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Thread Closed...
I suppose the question *since we can't ask specifics* is....
What can you do to help us and or what tools can you provide to the DEVs to help us get every bit of Awesome out of the device that we can.
Put the ball in your court.

Glad THIS thread is still open...
(Does SamsungJohn know how forums work?!?)
ANYhoo... I'm a give 'em enough rope to hang themselves kinda guy and I've actually been recommending the Mesmerize & Fascinate to friends that need new phones based solely on the great XDA community and what they can get those phones to do using only a bread tie, three pennies, and a jar of Cheez Wiz. Kudos to the devs once again!
I had no delusions that Samsung was a great manufacturer... my TV and DVD/home theater unit have had their share of problems... and I was also aware of the OS update delays in other product lines before I got my phone so that wasn't a big surprise either. BUT, I got in on the free phone thing through USCC and (if I EVER get my $80 rebate) I'll still consider being a Mesmerize owner/user a WIN.
What I see here is a classic example of a company that has the OBVIOUS solution within their grasp and they are actively choosing to find an alternative to it that will provide them SHORT TERM monetary gains. They have set themselves up for failure and they have only themselves to blame. Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing

Guys if you haven't read through it, that topic was closed by a moderator because it was an experiment that failed miserably. (because the general XDA population isn't very good at reading and following instruction, and it turned into a huge flamefest.)
John has been confirmed by several sources to be who he says he is (at least works for samsung) and is here working with the XDA administration to (in an organized way) swap feedback with the developing community (on all samsung products).
On a side note Supercurio has been in correspondence with Korean Samsung and has been also pushing for this very thing to happen, but from what I've read i'ts pure coincidence that John arrived when he did.
Anyway, sounds to me like we need to be patient as information IS coming as soon as they figure out the best way to go about this whole thing. This is how I've taken things from what I've read today, don't quote me....

monthlymixcd said:
Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
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In all fairness Crowdsourceing is what the whole AOSP is about. Android was and is developed to be Open Source. So if a company is reaching out to the community it can't be all bad.
I just think that for the most part a lot of us here are end users.
While I am sure that others like me want to, and strive to learn more, we simply will not be on a par with the current crop of DEVs as they progress as well.
I think the idea of a couple DEVs from each of the respective forums of the variations of the SGS platforms being in contact is a smart idea.
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
In fact a meeting of the minds in a channel of choice with only participants having voice would be nice as well.
I do understand and hope that SamsungJohn does know as well that most here are simply end users and just wanna know when we will get xxx or yyy ..
I will now go back to my corner get my Java Text out and see if I can learn, learn, learn....

If samsung really wants to get in good with the developement community, they would be wise to make it entirely official, and go to engadget or someone with a press release. If you want to gain our trust, give everyone the AOSP build.
Do I want sammy to be community-minded? Absolutely.
Am I going to trust one guy who says he works for our manufacturer? Well, let's get to the root of that. Do I trust the company who created out hardware? Not at all.

Sighcosis said:
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
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Yeah I frequent the irc with those guys and we're always willing to help people... I think a lot of people come to forums just to get help and information rather than to develop and theme and stuff like we do. It would probably be more beneficial for Samsungjohn to maybe set up a date on the irc and say like "I will be on from x time to y time" and then people can get on and ask questions and talk about things, and more of the power users who use the irc regularly will get a chance to maybe learn some stuff or help out Samsung.
It would also make it much easier to control, if things get out of hand then the OPs can simply kick or ban the culprits.
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WebOS or Android?

Which one i should donate fund to!!
Please don't tell me both!

android nuff said

WebOS is EOL if you read the news, unless they can licence it out. Lots of questions if that will become a success story.
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mercurycn said:
Which one i should donate fund to!!
Please don't tell me both!
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WebOS is the one that needs help, but feel free to donate whoever you want.

Android would unlock the real potential of this device and will continue to evolve where webos is dead.

I like my Iconia tab for the most part (except for the fact the keyboard is running slow and not showing up very quickly as I am typing this). I want to see how well the webos really backs up your apps. The rom manager that supposedly comes with it is suppose to let you change roms without having to wipe the tab. The main thing I want to check out is webos doctor. It is suppose to be able to bring back an unresponsive tab and restore it to the last save point some how. I have tried to find more info on this, but it has been a challenge trying to use an internet search for something with the same name as the mouse on a laptop.

Gimpeh said:
Android would unlock the real potential of this device and will continue to evolve where webos is dead.
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WebOS already has the potential, even more than Android, Android only owns all the APP that WebOS, I bet you never used a WebOS device.

Q Best Linux desktop os for Android development

I was wondering if someone can recommend what they think that the best Linux desktop os would be for Android development. I was using Linux Mint but recently I switched to ubuntu. I have been recommended to use fedora or debian. I was just hoping to get opinions on which would be the better for a new dev to start using. Thanks in advance.
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What did you settle on and why? Cause I'm trying to decide atm too...
I know I'd be more likely to stick with debian/ubuntu based because it's just the type of package management I'm used to... Ubuntu has become my goto... or lubuntu/xubuntu if I need a lighter footprint, kubuntu if I'm looking for a more refined desktop that guests might be more comfortable with... You just can't beat the amount of packages that are "already ready already" in the ubuntu repos and the online community/following ubuntu has for quick help.
I am, however, a little more likely to try something different for the particular purpose of android development if recommended by a lot of experienced people.
I see more responses in older threads... but things change quickly in the OS world... especially with fast pased release cycles of some distributions. I hope some actual xda recognized developers give some feedback here.
I know a lot of people will say it depends on your needs and what you work best with and what works best for you and how you work and how I drink my sweet tea and blah blah blah... I want to know what you guys that are actually doing it are using and why so I can make an informed decision.. or else I'll just go with my goto (ubuntu)... but just in case I'll be clear about what would help too... That doesn't meant I don't care to hear opinions outside of the scope of my desire if you have good reasoning.
1. Package management. Easiest install/configuration of the specific tools needed to develop for android apps and package apk's, and android itself... kernels, build roms and similar non-app system component development or repackaging.
2. Of course an environment that feels intuitive and is conducive to the creative process involved is equally important.
3. This probably going to be a given in any distribution (I'll mention anyway...), but communication and resource access is important too.. so irc, web (xda-developers forum!), email...
I value the thoughts and opinions of this community. I've been getting great info off here for years. I'm just now starting to participate in the forum, but that's just because I've never been a forum person... I was just an irc and google geek... but when google takes you to great forums like this time and time again... I guess its time to grow and change. I'd like to be a future contributor too, it feels nice to give back...

I guess I'll stick with my combo of Windows 7 and Ubuntu. I will be changing desktop to classic gnome though. I'm not prepared for a radical change like unity... still just looks like a netbook launcher to me.. sadly the newer gnome releases seen to be heading in a radical direction as well.
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ROM Development Guide?

Remember about a month ago when XDA came out with a book about rooting and flashing ROMs?
I was just wondering if there were any books (or guides maybe) like that, that showed how to make ROMs from scratch, not through all of these annoying kitchens. (Don't really like them, they make me feel like a noob... of course I suppose I am)
So whatever, that's really about it. Thanks guys!
(Oh by the way, I have tried Nero's ROM guide and wasn't a huge fan, also I'm getting another computer solely for the purpose of Ubuntu too if that matters at all.)

...subscribing, also just out of interest I'm trying out Lubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 server too!

jdgfdqtuzs said:
...subscribing, also just out of interest I'm trying out Lubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 server too!
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Pretty awesome, never heard of Lubuntu before now. I'd consider it, but any recent tutorials I've looked at use Ubuntu. (Sadly though, they're ridiculous! For example, there was a post about compiling Jelly Bean from source code, and its practically not even in English! I mean I know some coding and all, but despite that, nothing is explained. It just do this like "do this and then do this and this and then we're done. An don't worry, there won't be a troubleshooting page because we know all you out there are experts.)
Whatever, that's my rant. Hopefully a mod will come along some time soon and point us in the right direction. Fingers crossed. :highfive:

thebeastglasser said:
Pretty awesome, never heard of Lubuntu before now. I'd consider it, but any recent tutorials I've looked at use Ubuntu. (Sadly though, they're ridiculous! For example, there was a post about compiling Jelly Bean from source code, and its practically not even in English! I mean I know some coding and all, but despite that, nothing is explained. It just do this like "do this and then do this and this and then we're done. An don't worry, there won't be a troubleshooting page because we know all you out there are experts.)
Whatever, that's my rant. Hopefully a mod will come along some time soon and point us in the right direction. Fingers crossed. :highfive:
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Lubuntu is basically a lighter version of Ubuntu, still runs on the same principles as in version number etc. I understand your frustration with regards to where to find "how to" code, but, my view on tutorials is exactly that where aspects of what you're supposed to be doing are not explained. I think we need to be looking into another category for books, e.g. a coding practice used for android. See what happens

Yeah I suppose you're right. Off to Google/Amazon!
(of course if anyone sees this and would still like to post, by all means, do so!)
EDIT: After a god half an hour of searching, I think I finally found it. The problem is, you're gonna need $50 if you want to snag it.
http://www.amazon.com/Android-Foren...-Security/dp/1597496510/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk
It is by far the most in detail book I've seen. Just look at the overview of the chapters! It's just like what I was looking for! Woohoo!

Oh man $50. Hard being a broke student.
I would love to learn to. Anyone can tell me where to start? What languages i need to learn (java, linux, c++, etc)?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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If your tomato just so happens to be running a version of android that can support the Kindle app, you can actually get it for about $40 too...
And while I'm not an expert in this field (in fact I really don't know too much) I do know that android uses java and converts it to another language using the dalvik machine. So if you really have no where to start, try learning some java.

thebeastglasser said:
If your tomato just so happens to be running a version of android that can support the Kindle app, you can actually get it for about $40 too...
And while I'm not an expert in this field (in fact I really don't know too much) I do know that android uses java and converts it to another language using the dalvik machine. So if you really have no where to start, try learning some java.
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Offtopic: I think tomatoes dont taste good at all.

I'm a fan, but that's just me. (end of off topic conversation before a mod takes down the thread.)

thebeastglasser said:
I'm a fan, but that's just me. (end of off topic conversation before a mod takes down the thread.)
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(nah I love this convo) I think theyre pretty sour.

Thanks
This is a great guide thanks

Thanks, good guide !

That book looks more related to security than anything else. Anything for development in particular?

If you look at the insides though, it shows how to create the internals, with step by step pieces. Chapter 7 (I think) also has 6 popular methods to obtain root access.
Look at the sneak peek and read the summaries of the chapters. It's definitely going on my Christmas list.
EDIT: As for anything solely for development, I have yet to find anything like that. Hence the reason for posting this thread.

Well, my tomato can support kindle.
Anyway, great thread. Hope someone who can help us reads this and decides to help us further.
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Bump.
We still need support smart dev guys.
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