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Hey guys, I am new to this forum and I am looking for some opinions. I currently have a Nexus One which I have had for a year now on T-Mobile's network. I really don't have too many complaints about the phone or the network. I'm currently thinking about getting the Nexus S and was wondering if anybody out there has had both phones and has any good inputs or reasons why I should/should't get the Nexus S. Thanks for all of your opinions. It is much appreciated.
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FYI: T-Zones 5.99 plan doesn't work on the Nexus S but does work on the Nexus one. Not steering you away from the Nexus S.
I love my Nexus S. The screen is great and the multi touch is actually multi touch.
Let me say this... I'm holding both in my hand right now, and you can easily tell the difference in speed / gorgeousness / etc.
Nexus S hands down. Way faster, way smoother, way sexier, and it's the new Google phone.
I have Att nexus one and i bought the Nexus S for my mom for Christmas. I'll list the pros and Cons.
Pro:
Better and Bigger screen.
NFC (useless for now)
Real multi touch
Faster CPU and Better graphic
Front facing Camera
Louder Speaker
Cons:
A bit more thick ( a little fat on the bottom)
Made out of plastic and no its not fantastic.
No trackball or notification. (you'll might not miss it)
no 3 pin dock like the nexus one ( con only if u have a N1 dock)
If I were you I would just keep the nexus one for another 3-4 months. There is almost no reason for you to waste 500 plus on a new phone when the nexus one is still pretty rock solid. Also the new dual core phones are coming out and nexus s will feel like wasted money.
bruceko86 said:
I have Att nexus one and i bought the Nexus S for my mom for Christmas. I'll list the pros and Cons.
Pro:
Better and Bigger screen.
NFC (useless for now)
Real multi touch
Faster CPU and Better graphic
Front facing Camera
Louder Speaker
Cons:
A bit more thick ( a little fat on the bottom)
Made out of plastic and no its not fantastic.
No trackball or notification. (you'll might not miss it)
no 3 pin dock like the nexus one ( con only if u have a N1 dock)
If I were you I would just keep the nexus one for another 3-4 months. There is almost no reason for you to waste 500 plus on a new phone when the nexus one is still pretty rock solid. Also the new dual core phones are coming out and nexus s will feel like wasted money.
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The only dual core phones that are 'definitely' coming out are Tegra2's which is about the same power as a Hummingbird. By the time a Snap Dragon Dual Core or Orion dual core comes out, the next Nexus phone will be in production. At the end of 2011. Even then, I don't see how the Hummingbird will be phased out. Google barely has proper hardware support for the GPU and it's still buttery smooth. Once all the kinks of the Hummingbird are worked out and the optimized Honeycomb or 2.4 comes, it'll be even further buttery that dual cores won't even mean anything unless you're trying to play a Doom 3 port.
The Nexus S will be the best phone until the next Nexus phone comes out. That is if the next Nexus has a Super Amoled or better and has 4g and a dual core. Otherwise, the Nexus S would still stay better.
But going even further, the device is all personal preference, for instance, here are my pros and cons:
Pros:
Better, bigger screen. But not too big.
Super AMOLED, much more solid colors.
Better viewing angles.
Faster CPU
Superior GPU
NFC Chip
Latest Google updates
True, accurate 5 finger multi-touch (I shoot railgun shots in quake3droid with it)
Front facing camera
Far superior speaker quality and loudness
Made out of plastic, feels slick and is very light.
A bit bigger and pronounced in the hand.
No pointless trackball.
No annoying notification LED.
Screen feels much more smooth.
Far easier to type on.
Much better battery life.
Live wallpapers don't make it sluggish.
Much better haptic buttons.
Cons:
No External SD Card.
no 3 pin dock like the nexus one ( con only if u have a N1 dock)
Also, better earpiece, Mic, and speaker on n's.
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N1 has noise cancellation, NS does not. NFC chip is useless in NS.
kolyan said:
N1 has noise cancellation, NS does not. NFC chip is useless in NS.
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Considering http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs NS has noise cancellation feature
kolyan said:
N1 has noise cancellation, NS does not. NFC chip is useless in NS.
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Lol. You saying that this is a con?
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Considering http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs NS has noise cancellation feature
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no it doesnt. software cancellation without 2nd mic is bs. all phones have it in one way or others, gingerbread might have improved it a bit, most likely just some marketing bs.
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Lol. You saying that this is a con?
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no, not a con, not a pro.....more of a con due to paper weight
might end up being a pro......but when, no one knows...
kolyan said:
no, not a con, not a pro.....more of a con due to paper weight
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Haha, ok. Otherwise it would be rather... stupid.
I gave you a thanks by the way. Wasn't my intention, but I can't undo it. You probably don't want me to undo it either, so I'm going to leave it.
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The only dual core phones that are 'definitely' coming out are Tegra2's which is about the same power as a Hummingbird. By the time a Snap Dragon Dual Core or Orion dual core comes out, the next Nexus phone will be in production. At the end of 2011. Even then, I don't see how the Hummingbird will be phased out. Google barely has proper hardware support for the GPU and it's still buttery smooth. Once all the kinks of the Hummingbird are worked out and the optimized Honeycomb or 2.4 comes, it'll be even further buttery that dual cores won't even mean anything unless you're trying to play a Doom 3 port.
The Nexus S will be the best phone until the next Nexus phone comes out. That is if the next Nexus has a Super Amoled or better and has 4g and a dual core. Otherwise, the Nexus S would still stay better.
But going even further, the device is all personal preference, for instance, here are my pros and cons:
Pros:
Better, bigger screen. But not too big.
Super AMOLED, much more solid colors.
Better viewing angles.
Faster CPU
Superior GPU
NFC Chip
Latest Google updates
True, accurate 5 finger multi-touch (I shoot railgun shots in quake3droid with it)
Front facing camera
Far superior speaker quality and loudness
Made out of plastic, feels slick and is very light.
A bit bigger and pronounced in the hand.
No pointless trackball.
No annoying notification LED.
Screen feels much more smooth.
Far easier to type on.
Much better battery life.
Live wallpapers don't make it sluggish.
Much better haptic buttons.
Cons:
No External SD Card.
no 3 pin dock like the nexus one ( con only if u have a N1 dock)
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I agree with you on the Tegra 2.
From a cpu perspective it's very similar to the 1ghz chips already out there. The dual core give it more horsepower to process information from cameras up to 18MP and provide a full 1080P experience.
The Tegra 2 is decent but there are other dual cores coming out soon that put the smackdown on the Tegra 2. For example, the Samsung Orion is one to watch. In terms of pure triangles per second count, the Tegra 2 can do 90 million while the Samsung Orion can do 450 million. That's 5X more graphics power.
Then of course we have our good friend battery life. Tegra 2 is capable of achieving 140 hours of continuous audio on a standard 2000mAh battery, while the dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragons and Samsung Orion, as well as OMAP4 are achieving 120 hours, but from a 1000mAh battery.
Really what makes the Tegra 2 special is its the first dual core to come to Android, but it won't be the last or best.
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I agree with you on the Tegra 2.
From a cpu perspective it's very similar to the 1ghz chips already out there. The dual core give it more horsepower to process information from cameras up to 18MP and provide a full 1080P experience.
The Tegra 2 is decent but there are other dual cores coming out soon that put the smackdown on the Tegra 2. For example, the Samsung Orion is one to watch. In terms of pure triangles per second count, the Tegra 2 can do 90 million while the Samsung Orion can do 450 million. That's 5X more graphics power.
Then of course we have our good friend battery life. Tegra 2 is capable of achieving 140 hours of continuous audio on a standard 2000mAh battery, while the dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragons and Samsung Orion, as well as OMAP4 are achieving 120 hours, but from a 1000mAh battery.
Really what makes the Tegra 2 special is its the first dual core to come to Android, but it won't be the last or best.
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Yep. This is why I'm hoping the next Nexus is Qualcomm or Orion. Hopefully Orion. Other than that, I don't care about any dual core phones.
This being said, they never even confirmed that the Orion would be used in cell phones. It will probably be in the next Galaxy Tab though.
Since it is official that the Note 10.1 will be available tomorrow I thought I would pose the question since I am having trouble making the decision. Note taking on the tab is important to me, probably in my top 4 needs. I have not had much success with my stylus choice,as of yet, for SuperNote on the infinity or the prime when I owned it. My finger has been the best pen. Question is, does anyone recommend a stylus that makes note taking extra smooth on the infinity with Supernote as it would compare to the 10.1 or samsung note experience? Thoughts?
Dagi Stylus (p603 for example) is very accurate:
http://youtu.be/nP5dRXlEBSc?hd=1&t=29s
For note taking, I would recommend just using the dock for the infinity. I am sure the Galaxy Note 10.1 will be very good for handwritten notes. However, I had some issues with the Galaxy Note phone in terms of calibration of the pen and some lag. Maybe this will be fixed on the 10.1 tablet.
I'd think the Wacom digitizer on the Note 10.1 (rather than the stylus alone) would give you a better note taking experience on the Samsung Note 10.1 than the Transformer Infinity.
If you must have handwritten notes, the Note 10.1 is the way to go. If you can type, try to go for an Infinity (or even TF300) with the keyboard dock.
My Decision
I posted this in another thread but felt the need to post here as well since I started this thread. Thank you all for your input
I have struggled with this decision since I traded my 201 for the infinity. I knew that the 10.1 would come out during my 30 day exchange so was not too concerned. I want and need to take notes on my pad but also use it for entertainment. The soft sided stylus just does not cut it, although I think supernote is a real good program. My best stylus was my finger. I asked for recommendations in another post and am happy to report that the adonit jot pro is a winner with my infinity.
I believe that the infinity is hands down a better product than the samsung ( I do have a minor drop out issue with wifi that I still have not isolated but believe I can fix with some tweeks to my home network, being it is the only place I have minor issue) . The jot pro works perfect. Had to get rid of the zagg screen protector and am looking for a suitable replacement ( anyone have any ideas) because the the zagg is too sticky. With the jot and supernote it exceeds all of my needs.
Main Deciding factors:
Jot and supernote sufficiently re-create s pen experience.
FULL HD on Infinity
ASUS commitment to upgrade Operating System
Option of using TF keyboard
HD out on Infinity
I believe true multi tasking in Android is less than six months away for all so that feature is short lived for Samsung
Tired of changing tabs.
Had the note included resolution to match the newer tablets then I'd have considered it even with a hundred dollar increase. When I get a chance to play with it then maybe I will change my mind.
I say stick with the infinity just because Asus updates their devices way more often than Samsung. The galaxy S II didn't get ICS until relatively recently for example. Absurd given the Galaxy S II was their flagship device a mere 6 months ago.
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Honestly, there are several hands on and deep impressions out there. Doesn't sound very impressive. Part of me was considering exchanging the tf700 for it, not anymore.
its a hard question because the tegra 3 turned out to not be as good as everyone expected it to be, the quad exynos sounds amazing however. but after the .26 update fixed i/o the infinity is very fast and the browsing is much better than the prime, but in my experience samsung has an excellent browser performance. you should go check the note out in a store if you are seriously considering getting the note. i personally think the infinity is a much better tablet because of the screen, the faster updates, the metal build quality, and the dock. the note is still a very good tablet though
I would have definitely got the note if it wasn't for the resolution. Those processors are beast.
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I sent my TF700 back last week and will be picking up a Note today. I'll let you know what I find in comparison.
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Reviews are not very good so far. Verge hammered it. Ah well, every device has it's fans on xda I hope you guys who grab one enjoy it.
Note build quality is good. Thin and light. Screen decent. Feels much more responsive than the TF700.
Display not as nice as the Asus but I will take the better performance over the screen. Pen is nice but not sure how useful it will be . I like the dual front facing speakers. Quite loud.
Ran a couple of benchmarks .... for comparison sakes only.
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I too debated between the two tablets. I had the HTC Jetstream, which also had an active stylus, and the Galaxy Note phone. In the end, I found that handwritten notes were not as efficient as using a keyboard. Also, handwriting recognition apps are just too frustrating. I am sold on the Transformer series with the dock. I really like having the tablet propped up in the traditional laptop fashion. I do like that the Note tablet has 2 GB of RAM, which I wish the Inifinity had. I have 2 GB of RAM on my Galaxy S3 phone and I find that I don't worry about killing apps in the background. I am sure 1 GB is fine though.
Regarding a screen protector, I got the clear Acase protector from Amazon. It went on very easily and I don't even notice it. Also, it works just fine with the dock, so I definitely recommend it.
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I was debating between the two tabs too...I've decided on neither.
Like the previous Asais tabs, Infinity still has built quality issues, flash memory speed hasn't increased and the battery capacity is the same as prime...silly to increase the resolution and cpu speed....but not the battery capacity.
On Note, going by the reviews, it does not look like a premium product, not for $500+ at least. Even though the benchmarks are high it still has lag.
I'll wait for the next android tablet, otherwise it's onto MS Surface.
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Note build quality is good. Thin and light. Screen decent. Feels much more responsive than the TF700.
Display not as nice as the Asus but I will take the better performance over the screen. Pen is nice but not sure how useful it will be . I like the dual front facing speakers. Quite loud.
Ran a couple of benchmarks .... for comparison sakes only.
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Wow benchmark dont seem that far away...with antutu i get like 12400
seems like the review benchmarks over exaggerated?
I read that the infinity antutu score was close with the Note in some other reviews but that was the only one of 7 or 8 in which the TF700 was close. I don't recall now what I was getting on Quadrant with Asus but I think it was much lower. At any rate, the Note has no lag at all. Peppy even.
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ugotproblemz said:
Wow benchmark dont seem that far away...with antutu i get like 12400
seems like the review benchmarks over exaggerated?
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I think those marks reflect my experience in usage. Not comparable to the infinity as the Note is in a whole other league. I honestly feel the Tegra does not match the hype.
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Anyone else having any issues with the outer edges of the tablet when pressed giving a creaking sounds. Its not bad enough for a return for when i receive my book cover i wont really care anymore. I just want to see if Im the only one and maybe I should take it back for another
Why are you pressing the outer corners of your tablet?
Mine does not creak, however it does sigh seductively.
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Yes, mine creaks if I press under the speakers... Both sides. It's annoying but I'm still keeping it!
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No creaking from mine.
BigStuart said:
Yes, mine creaks if I press under the speakers... Both sides. It's annoying but I'm still keeping it!
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Dont press under the speakers.
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The second I had mine out of the box I checked for this plastic creaking issue all the reviewers were talking about. Aside from a single creak, that was more of a popping noise like the back plate being snapped into position, I've had no problems since.
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I just read a funny review. They basically said:
"Other than the s-pen, there is little new in the Galaxy Note 10.1 to recommend it over the competition..."
Lol, that's like saying, "Other than it's fine-tuned racing engine, there is little new in a Porsche 911 to recommend it over a Volkswagen Jetta."
The PEN is the friggin point! The REASON the SGN10.1 doesn't have an HD screen is BECAUSE of the pen. The processor simply is not powerful enough to use a pen on an HD screen.
These reviewers are so dumb.
So, just like the original Note, all the reviewers HATE it and all the users LOVE it.
mitchellvii said:
These reviewers are so dumb.
So, just like the original Note, all the reviewers HATE it and all the users LOVE it.
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LOL. +1
I mean think about it. These same reviewers think we should be perfectly happy sitting in a business meeting taking notes with our finger. They say using a stylus doesn't "look cool", but finger painting does?
No shortage of dumb out there.
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The PEN is the friggin point! The REASON the SGN10.1 doesn't have an HD screen is BECAUSE of the pen. The processor simply is not powerful enough to use a pen on an HD screen
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Are You sure ? Isn´t the WACOM digitizer seperate from the screen ? Or is it because the Digitizer Input then has to be translated into a Full HD line/drawing that might exceed the limits of the Exynos.
Sorry for beeing picky but I would really like to know if I understood how this marvellous piece of art works ........
troed said:
Are You sure ? Isn´t the WACOM digitizer seperate from the screen ? Or is it because the Digitizer Input then has to be translated into a Full HD line/drawing that might exceed the limits of the Exynos.
Sorry for beeing picky but I would really like to know if I understood how this marvellous piece of art works ........
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The device not being fullHD has nothing to do with the pen. It has to do with the fact that there is not a mobile GPU in existence currently that can drive a full HD screen without severe compromises to the rest of the system.
New iPad - copypasta of the GPU cores to get the fillrate up required making the battery about 50% larger. This translates to a heavier device and 50% longer recharge time (recharge rate was not improved to compensate for the increased power consumption and battery capacity).
Transformer Infinity - The GPU is just not powerful enough to push all of those pixels. End result is lots of complaints about poor UI performance.
FullHD won't be truly practical until the next generation of mobile GPUs which achieve improved performance without increased power consumption.
No creaks here. There is some flex to the backplate, but I consider this a good thing - Which of the three options below would YOU choose?
Back flexes to absorb impacts
Back is stiff but cracks on impact because it didn't flex
Back is stiff and transfers shocks to your screen, which breaks instead of the back flexing a little
I know I choose option 1
Entropy512 said:
The device not being fullHD has nothing to do with the pen. It has to do with the fact that there is not a mobile GPU in existence currently that can drive a full HD screen without severe compromises to the rest of the system
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By disagreeing with me you prove my point.
The mobile processor in the SGN10.1 at this price point simply does not have the power to drive pen input on an HD screen. Hence, no HD screen. If the Infinity lags with no pen, how badly would an HD SGN10.1 lag with a pen? Do you think Samsung would try selling the Note with a 1280 x 800 screen and NO pen for $500? No one would buy it. Clearly, the problem here is the pen and HD input and processing power. You want pen + HD it's gonna cost you twice as much.
The proof of this is that the upcoming Surface Pro with a full intel chip is the only device recommended for full use of their new pen device with an HD screen. But that will cost $900 - $1000 and weigh 2 lbs.
No, the current hardware configuration on the SGN10.1 is the ONLY configuration which makes sense at this price. To me it represents brilliant balance.
No creaks here, my first(faulty speaker) was creaking.
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Unfortunately all the specwhores care about is "MOAR PIXELS HURR DURR."
Mine creaks a little but not really during normal use. Sure you can squeeze it and flex it, but what normal function requires doing that? Just looking for a problem where there isn't one.
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If the Infinity lags with no pen, how badly would an HD SGN10.1 lag with a pen?
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Not any more at all. If anything, slightly less due to the presence of a more powerful GPU (The Mali 400 in the Exynos 4412 is a bit beefier than the GPU in the Tegra 3.)
You seem to be under the false impression that the pen does something to increase CPU/GPU requirements of a device. It does not - All of the processing related to pen input is done by dedicated Wacom hardware. By the time you get to the CPU/GPU, it's just another input device which requires negligible processing power to deal with. This is why, for example, the original Note does just fine with the same CPU as the Galaxy S2 - It received a 200 MHz bump due to the higher display resolution and the fact that it was simply possible to do at that point in time (just like I wouldn't be surprised if Note 2 were a 1.5 GHz 4412 instead of 1.4 like in the GS3 and N10.1)
Again, keeping the screen at 1280x800 has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the pen and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that ultrahigh resolution is currently a marketing gimmick that results in an inferior experience in either UI performance (Infinity) or battery performance (iPad weight and recharge time), regardless of whether a pen is present or not. This will continue to be the case until the next generation of mobile GPUs/CPUs that achieves higher performance without higher power consumption requirements.
Entropy / Mitchell
Tx for the detailed info. Now (l think) l look through...... I'm totally happy with the resolution,it is absolutely crisp and sharp.
This device is incredible and after one week l would not know how to work. BTW: no creaking here.......
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Again, keeping the screen at 1280x800 has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the pen and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that ultrahigh resolution is currently a marketing gimmick that results in an inferior experience in either UI performance (Infinity) or battery performance (iPad weight and recharge time), regardless of whether a pen is present or not. This will continue to be the case until the next generation of mobile GPUs/CPUs that achieves higher performance without higher power consumption requirements.
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Entropy,
I have the greatest of respect for your work and skill with development but I still disagree. The actual function of the pen interacting with the device may not put additional strain on the gpu but changing those high density pixels as the pen writes in real time surely does. You are talking about pen input and i am talking about pen output.
Are you saying changing the colors and textures of double the pixels in the same space in realtime puts no more strain on the processor? Pushing pixels costs resources. Yes the pen input is handled by the digitizer but the result of that input is handled by the CPU/GPU.
Following your premise the new pen with the Surface RT should work as well as it does with the Pro, but it won't. It won't offer palm rejection or nearly the precision. Why not if the pen puts no additional demands on resources?
My position will continue to be that Samsung does not offer a higher density screen with the s-pen because they simply could not using this processor and still offer high performance.
Anyway, doesn't matter. It is what it is. If pen input on an HD screen were possible for $500 someone would be doing it. The fact no one is is telling.
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It would lag the same. Pen doesn't strain the CPU or GPU much unless you are talking about recognising hadwriting or drawing with a complicated brush. Pen used as a mouse takes probably the same CPU power as... a mouse. There is almost certainly a dedicated Wacom chip that does most of the work related to the pen (calculating the position mostly).
Ahh . Yeah does make a pllastic squeaking sound...but i dont feel like unrooting to take it back so i shall deal with it! I love it too much
mitchellvii said:
I have the greatest of respect for your work and skill with development but I still disagree. The actual function of the pen interacting with the device may not put additional strain on the gpu but changing those high density pixels as the pen writes in real time surely does. You are talking about pen input and i am talking about pen output.
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You're not disagreeing with him, he's also saying that the GPU is not powerful enough to drive a screen of that resolution in real time. That's regardless of whether the output is pen output or other 2D/3D graphics output. Sure, it might be more noticeable with a finer resolution pen input than with finger touch input, but it's not specific to the pen itself, it's just a fact of current generation mobile GPUs and high resolution displays.
On topic, mine doesn't creak unless you hold it in awkward ways/push against it while picking it up off the table.
Just a simple question, why would choose an HTC One S over the Samsung Galaxy S3? I'm considering buying one of those, but i don't know which aspect of the One S is better than the S3..
Because it fits in the hand like no other phone,it's not too big and not too small,simply perfect,the phone is quite fast
And if u are buying a One S,buy it with the S4 chip
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Far far far far nicer looking and way better build quality and of course perceived quality, the looks of the gs3 is the main thing that puts me of it
Better chipset (s4)
IMO sense is miles better for the stock apps, ui, colour scheme
Better battery life
The camera is better overall in terms of features/options and camera ui which make photography far better
If we're talking stock, Sense >>>> Touchwiz. Touchwiz feels so sluggish.
On the One S, I keep going back to stock from custom roms because I love how it feels and the battery life is great.
Only benefit of the SGS3 IMO is NFC.
Build quality, build quality and erm.. build quality.
Fluent usage! The GS3 is not running as smooth as Sense on my HOS!
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...and even more build quality
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If we're talking stock, Sense >>>> Touchwiz. Touchwiz feels so sluggish.
On the One S, I keep going back to stock from custom roms because I love how it feels and the battery life is great.
Only benefit of the SGS3 IMO is NFC.
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if i'm not wrong, the battery life in S3 is actually better than the One S. also, it does have the option to expand memory (up to 64GB). other than that i'd lean towards the One S.
Build quality and form factor. High end specs in a smaller package.
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dorezen said:
if i'm not wrong, the battery life in S3 is actually better than the One S. also, it does have the option to expand memory (up to 64GB). other than that i'd lean towards the One S.
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You can't really count storage as a plus or a con for either device, it's all personal preference. ~9Gb is plenty for me
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if i'm not wrong, the battery life in S3 is actually better than the One S. also, it does have the option to expand memory (up to 64GB). other than that i'd lean towards the One S.
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There isn't a huge difference in battery life, however, i have yet to see a GS 3 get the same sort of battery life with similar usage to what i and others get, which is about 4-5 hours on screen time spread across 1-3 days with heavy usage especially for browsing (out of the box), which kills battery life on Samoled screen mobiles particularly ours.
Plus it shouldn't be to any surprise anyway as we have the smaller display with a lower res. As well as a far more power efficient CPU chipset.
As said storage is personal preference, 16gb is enough for me, even if I had a 64g SD card i doubt that i would even use 5gb of that on top of the 16gb internal storage.
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Build quality is definitely a big one. Much better build quality with htc. Also gonna have to say size, sgs3 is practically a tablet.
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There isn't a huge difference in battery life, however, i have yet to see a GS 3 get the same sort of battery life with similar usage to what i and others get, which is about 4-5 hours on screen time spread across 1-3 days with heavy usage especially for browsing (out of the box), which kills battery life on Samoled screen mobiles particularly ours.
Plus it shouldn't be to any surprise anyway as we have the smaller display with a lower res. As well as a far more power efficient CPU chipset.
As said storage is personal preference, 16gb is enough for me, even if I had a 64g SD card i doubt that i would even use 5gb of that on top of the 16gb internal storage.
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I own a galaxy 3 and I get 5-6 hours screen time easily with just web browsing/text with games I get around 3-4 hours. As for build quality I don't know anybody who doesn't get a case for these higher end phones and most of them like the otter box cases make it feel as sturdy as any phone can be.
As for CPU they both have the same s4 chip if it is the lte variant and if its international it has the the quad core exynos so the better CPU argument kind of confuses me.
Expandable storage is extremely nice too have but that is just my opinion. Touchwiz 5.0 has added way to many features to list but i'd suggest you look it up its worth the watch. The camera also has a plethora of features that HTC phones do not. Also the lte variant comes with 2 gigs of ram which actually makes the CPU run more efficiently because it doesn't have to manage the memory as much.
All in all I would take a good look at the reviews on both phones before you make your decisions. One more thing before I forget is the amount of accessories available for the s3 is pretty nice.
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pierrenp said:
I'm considering buying one of those, but i don't know which aspect of the One S is better than the S3..
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Go to a shop that has both, and hold them in your hand.
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I own a galaxy 3 and I get 5-6 hours screen time easily with just web browsing/text with games I get around 3-4 hours. As for build quality I don't know anybody who doesn't get a case for these higher end phones and most of them like the otter box cases make it feel as sturdy as any phone can be.
As for CPU they both have the same s4 chip if it is the lte variant and if its international it has the the quad core exynos so the better CPU argument kind of confuses me.
Expandable storage is extremely nice too have but that is just my opinion. Touchwiz 5.0 has added way to many features to list but i'd suggest you look it up its worth the watch. The camera also has a plethora of features that HTC phones do not. Also the lte variant comes with 2 gigs of ram which actually makes the CPU run more efficiently because it doesn't have to manage the memory as much.
All in all I would take a good look at the reviews on both phones before you make your decisions. One more thing before I forget is the amount of accessories available for the s3 is pretty nice.
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With other usage like mine below?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
Also would need to see screenshots and info. like in the above link.
Quite a lot of people don't actually use cases, I always had the intention of using one with my S (have like 4 cases) especially given that the MAO layer can chip easily, but it so good that I don't use any case at all now unless going out for the night or something, if it was any other phone like the GS 3 then I have no problem using a case) IMO the otterbox cases are butt ugly and add a stupid amount of bulk.
Yeah the USA GS 3 has the S4 chipset although touchwiz seems to be very poorly optimised with it as the XL (using this as it has the same screen res.) easily beats it. The international is quad exynos, but just because it is quad does not mean that it is better, the S4 has way more performance per core (this is far better than having an additional 2 cores as android and apps doesn't fully utilise 2 cores let alone 4, they just aren't optimised in order to properly make use of the cores), a lot more power efficient and better for heat.
Eh? What features is the HTC one series phone lacking compared to the GS 3? The GS 3 has nothing at all really, only the standard stuff like HDR, panorama etc.. With the one series/sense V4 you have a load of effects, depth of field, vintage warm and cold, aqua, distortion amongst a ton of other things as well as slow motion recording, 16.9 aspect ratio amongst other things. The touchwiz software on the note II has a lot of features that are comparable to the one series phones, not the GS 3....
2GB of RAM (only 1GB on the international GS 3 although the LTE variant for the UK has 2GB) is a nice touch but it doesn't really provide much of an advantage, only good thing that it brings is you can switch from a demanding game to the browser, which would have 3 or so tabs open without them reloading. With a chip like the S4, apps launch pretty much immediately anyway.
S III all day.
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S III all day.
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No... probably the number one reason people go for the One S over the GS3 (or One X, or Galaxy Nexus) is the form factor, and the build quality. Really, with the feature sets being similar (and unless you want to quibble), the only REAL difference is size, and there are a lot of people that think a 4.7+" phone is too big. I have the Galaxy Nexus, and am lucky enough to have a plan that lets me update my phone yearly with no penalty. I'm getting the One S - the damn thing is speedy, the perfect size and is the most comfortable phone I've ever picked up.
Just ordered a HTC One S to replace my S3. I always get the latest phones and I bought the S3 to replace my Galaxy Nexus that was stolen. I almost immediately regretted buying the S3 because of its size. I'm a big guy, have big hands but nevertheless, the S3 is just too big. 4,3 Inch is more than enough for me. A few weeks ago I helped buying a friend a new phone and he wanted to stick to HTC coming from an old HTC Desire. The moment I took the phone in my hands it instantly fell in its place and I was amazed by the difference in build quality. It's a HUGE difference! So, tomorrow my S3 will go online and I cannot wait to lay my hands on my new One S.
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Terminator19 said:
With other usage like mine below?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
Also would need to see screenshots and info. like in the above link.
Quite a lot of people don't actually use cases, I always had the intention of using one with my S (have like 4 cases) especially given that the MAO layer can chip easily, but it so good that I don't use any case at all now unless going out for the night or something, if it was any other phone like the GS 3 then I have no problem using a case) IMO the otterbox cases are butt ugly and add a stupid amount of bulk.
Yeah the USA GS 3 has the S4 chipset although touchwiz seems to be very poorly optimised with it as the XL (using this as it has the same screen res.) easily beats it. The international is quad exynos, but just because it is quad does not mean that it is better, the S4 has way more performance per core (this is far better than having an additional 2 cores as android and apps doesn't fully utilise 2 cores let alone 4, they just aren't optimised in order to properly make use of the cores), a lot more power efficient and better for heat.
Eh? What features is the HTC one series phone lacking compared to the GS 3? The GS 3 has nothing at all really, only the standard stuff like HDR, panorama etc.. With the one series/sense V4 you have a load of effects, depth of field, vintage warm and cold, aqua, distortion amongst a ton of other things as well as slow motion recording, 16.9 aspect ratio amongst other things. The touchwiz software on the note II has a lot of features that are comparable to the one series phones, not the GS 3....
2GB of RAM (only 1GB on the international GS 3 although the LTE variant for the UK has 2GB) is a nice touch but it doesn't really provide much of an advantage, only good thing that it brings is you can switch from a demanding game to the browser, which would have 3 or so tabs open without them reloading. With a chip like the S4, apps launch pretty much immediately anyway.
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Here are some comparisons of the international galaxy s3 and the HTC one s
http://smartphones.techcrunch.com/compare/245-252/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-vs-HTC-One-S
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III,HTC-One-S/phones/6330,6579
And here are some reviews and comparisons of the USA galaxy s3 and the HTC one s.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-S,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Verizon/phones/6579,7114
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Hi everyone!
There are debates about Qualcom 615 (adreno 405) performance. Could share your empressions about speed, lugs and else.
How smooth it works with browsers, heavy apps and games.
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Tbh, I don't see much difference with a Moto X 2013 updated to 5.1. Snappy, browsing is cool as usual, you can switch from one app to another quite fast and well, everyday tasks are "Motorola as usual", y'know?
I feel like the keyboard swipping tray is at a low fps though. and it's quite annoying, anyone else have that problem?
Specs wise... Well, the clockspeed is the same as the 2013, but it has double the cores. My Antutu score with the X Play is 33k and 28k with the 5.1 2013.
I'm not really demanding performance-wise (no 3D games, etc.) but I definitely notice it when my music lags when I open another app (started doing that on my 2013 with the 5.1 update :/), and the X Play doesn't do that, yay!
alenym said:
Tbh, I don't see much difference with a Moto X 2013 updated to 5.1. Snappy, browsing is cool as usual, you can switch from one app to another quite fast and well, everyday tasks are "Motorola as usual", y'know?
I feel like the keyboard swipping tray is at a low fps though. and it's quite annoying, anyone else have that problem?
Specs wise... Well, the clockspeed is the same as the 2013, but it has double the cores. My Antutu score with the X Play is 33k and 28k with the 5.1 2013.
I'm not really demanding performance-wise (no 3D games, etc.) but I definitely notice it when my music lags when I open another app (started doing that on my 2013 with the 5.1 update :/), and the X Play doesn't do that, yay!
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Thanks for your comment. As I understood there is no any critical issues whith performance, it's smooth and fast?
I'm considering upgrading from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a drop in a performance. Anyone upgraded from a 800 series snapdragon mobile?
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I'm considering upgrading from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a drop in a performance. Anyone upgraded from a 800 series snapdragon mobile?
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I'm coming from a few devices. I mostly used the Nexus 6 and I can tell this phone isn't as fast as the N6. There are way more micro lags on the X Play. But, the flip side is the camera is much better and the battery actually lasts all day, so I can deal with some lag here and there.
^Pretty much echoes my opinions compared to my Zenfone 2
I do feel those micro lags, and sometimes it pisses me off , i'm looking forward to get Moto X style , it's not that X play is bad, still kept my LG g4 and Galaxy S6 in the drawer so you get the point . When i get the X Style i might switch back to X play because of the battery is very good.
I'm curios why they didn't just put in a last gen 800 series cpu-gpu. I get they are trying to save money but I really don't think this is the solution. Due to initial benchmarks, the 615 is slower than a SD 800 in almost every category and even the multi-core is slower. I'm much rather have a faster quad-core than a slower octa-core. Does anyone else agree or am I missing something in the octa-core debate?
Battery life and cost are my guesses.
Yeah I think it's exactly what Devhux said. Well battery life could be less of a concern on a big.LITTLE architecture, but Motorola isn't exactly known for putting cutting edge technology in its phone!
I really think it's the cost, to keep it under the 400$ (cad) mark.
I've turned my animation scales down to .5x in the developer settings. It's definitely making a difference. I don't mind the 615. I really want to get the Style but I can't imagine battery life will be very good. Too much screen.
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Yeah I think it's exactly what Devhux said. Well battery life could be less of a concern on a big.LITTLE architecture, but Motorola isn't exactly known for putting cutting edge technology in its phone!
I really think it's the cost, to keep it under the 400$ (cad) mark.
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Of course, it's also entirely possible that Motorola is being very conservative with the CPU Governor as well. Given that the phone barely even gets warm to the touch (unless maybe playing games), there's a good chance custom kernels could unlock a bit more performance for us. We've got the battery capacity to allow for some tweaking, and I can't wait to see what happens.
My main point of comparison is the Asus Zenfone 2, which I've always enjoyed considered "smooth." Of course, battery life and the camera are absolutely destroyed by the Moto X Play. Display is also better (and brighter) on the Moto.
Coming from the S6 Edge this phone feels auch faster. I'm very happy...also the battery lasts like twice as long
thegregulator said:
I've turned my animation scales down to .5x in the developer settings. It's definitely making a difference. I don't mind the 615. I really want to get the Style but I can't imagine battery life will be very good. Too much screen.
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Did you turn down all three animation scales options to 0.5x?
acpesreplays said:
Did you turn down all three animation scales options to 0.5x?
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Yes I did. There's still a decent amount of lag but it's definitely better.
thegregulator said:
Yes I did. There's still a decent amount of lag but it's definitely better.
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Guys, I did the same and my Xplay is a little beter now. But, sometimes I feel that the touch screen is not sensitive. I have a z3 too, and the touch is very sensitive, every little touch in screen, z3 reconize it, but the Xplay, I have to touch with more "force".
Do you also feel that ?!
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Curiousrge said:
Guys, I did the same and my Xplay is a little beter now. But, sometimes I feel that the touch screen is not sensitive. I have a z3 too, and the touch is very sensitive, every little touch in screen, z3 reconize it, but the Xplay, I have to touch with more "force".
Do you also feel that ?!
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I haven't had an issue with touchscreen sensitivity on my Moto X Play. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and Galaxy S6.
thegregulator said:
I haven't had an issue with touchscreen sensitivity on my Moto X Play. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and Galaxy S6.
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Very strange.
The touch is exactly the same, no differences ?
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I find the touch sensitivity on the Moto X Play is lower than the Galaxy S6, but not by a huge amount. It's not that the S6 felt more sensitive per se, it's that it felt more...consistent.
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I find the touch sensitivity on the Moto X Play is lower than the Galaxy S6, but not by a huge amount. It's not that the S6 felt more sensitive per se, it's that it felt more...consistent.
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Coming from a g3, but this.