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[Q] Nexus One For Nexus S

Hey guys, I am new to this forum and I am looking for some opinions. I currently have a Nexus One which I have had for a year now on T-Mobile's network. I really don't have too many complaints about the phone or the network. I'm currently thinking about getting the Nexus S and was wondering if anybody out there has had both phones and has any good inputs or reasons why I should/should't get the Nexus S. Thanks for all of your opinions. It is much appreciated.
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Let me say this... I'm holding both in my hand right now, and you can easily tell the difference in speed / gorgeousness / etc.
Nexus S hands down. Way faster, way smoother, way sexier, and it's the new Google phone.
The only dual core phones that are 'definitely' coming out are Tegra2's which is about the same power as a Hummingbird. By the time a Snap Dragon Dual Core or Orion dual core comes out, the next Nexus phone will be in production. At the end of 2011. Even then, I don't see how the Hummingbird will be phased out. Google barely has proper hardware support for the GPU and it's still buttery smooth. Once all the kinks of the Hummingbird are worked out and the optimized Honeycomb or 2.4 comes, it'll be even further buttery that dual cores won't even mean anything unless you're trying to play a Doom 3 port.
The Nexus S will be the best phone until the next Nexus phone comes out. That is if the next Nexus has a Super Amoled or better and has 4g and a dual core. Otherwise, the Nexus S would still stay better.
But going even further, the device is all personal preference, for instance, here are my pros and cons:
Pros:
Better, bigger screen. But not too big.
Super AMOLED, much more solid colors.
Better viewing angles.
Faster CPU
Superior GPU
NFC Chip
Latest Google updates
True, accurate 5 finger multi-touch (I shoot railgun shots in quake3droid with it)
Front facing camera
Far superior speaker quality and loudness
Made out of plastic, feels slick and is very light.
A bit bigger and pronounced in the hand.
No pointless trackball.
No annoying notification LED.
Screen feels much more smooth.
Far easier to type on.
Much better battery life.
Live wallpapers don't make it sluggish.
Much better haptic buttons.
Cons:
No External SD Card.
no 3 pin dock like the nexus one ( con only if u have a N1 dock)

Google Nexus Prime specs!

Possible nexus prime specs:
CPU: Texas Instruments OMAP 4460 Cortex A9 (1,2 GHz).
Screen: 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED HD 4,65"
OS: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
RAM: 1 GB RAM
Int. Memory: 32 GB
Back Camera: 5 Mpix
Front Camera: 1,3 Mpix
Movie recording in full 1080p
Wireless connectivity: LTE or HSPA (depends on operator)
NFC enabled!
9 mm thin
1750 mAh battery!

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i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
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lgkahn said:
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
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This is the original source from BGR.com:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/
And your arguments about the camera specs are right, when you just look at the hype about megapixel. But the image sensor is much more important for the quality of a picture. So i would like it to see the nexus prime with a better sensor, and less mp.
If you are interested, you can search for "megapixel vs. image sensor"
http://www.laesieworks.com/digicom/MP.html
If your camera has to be a compact, be sure to get a big sensor (1/1.6" or 1/1.7") and not too much megapixels.
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Processor is 1.5 ghz dual core afaik, and camera is 8MP at back and 2 or 3 MP at front. Internal memory may not be 32gb , it will be 16gb.
Also battery is rumoured to be 1850 MHz.
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BHuvan goyal said:
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Also battery is rumoured to be 1850 MHz.
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pretty fast battery

Well it will depend on the new android ics, how much it sucks battery out.
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lgkahn said:
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
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Phones only really need 5mp. 8mp will make the picture larger, but that doesn't mean that it will be better.
Then again if you really want an amazing camera that also happens to make calls, then check out the Nokia N8. 12MP and a Carl Zeiss (SP?) on that bad boy...
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ccrows said:
Phones only really need 5mp. 8mp will make the picture larger, but that doesn't mean that it will be better.
Then again if you really want an amazing camera that also happens to make calls, then check out the Nokia N8. 12MP and a Carl Zeiss (SP?) on that bad boy...
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Well I have actually used all three that are best in the business- samsung galaxy s 2, n8 and se arc se ARC has the best camera of all three and sg2 has also a better camera then n8 so 12 MP s don't really matter when u don't have optical zoom, the quality matter and arc outstands both sgs2 and n8 !
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A little disappointed with the hardware (processor was rumoured differently, for one) but it's still going to be one hell of a phone.

What i'd like to see:
I'd very much like if they'd stop making bigger screens. I really think 4'' was the sweet spot, nearly 5'' is... well, too big imo. I realize this may be a requirement for 1280 x 720-pixel res but i honestly believe my phone is big enough as it is (i own an SGS). Granted, higher resolution rules but... well, it's a phone, not a tablet.
I'd also like to see an SD card slot. I can't really see why not. Sure you already have 32Gb. More than enough for me as far as space goes, but i usually leave my phone downloading stuff over the night. SO much faster and easier to just take the card out and plugging in the computer in the morning than having all of that transferred over wireless again.
Android also has a few issues with sdcards (try setting an mp3 as your ringtone stored in the sd, removing, putting the card back in and get a call), but removing the slot completely isn't really a solution and it doesn't take that much space.
Aluminum instead of plastics. Or at least solid stuff for a lasting phone. Phones aren't meant to fall but shi* happens and i'd like my 500€ investment a bit better suited to survive. Don't really mind plastics though, they make my phone lighter, but i'd like some solid stuff for a change. At the very least, nothing as thin as the back cover of an SGS2, please. If we're doing plastics, i'm thinking the back cover of the iphone 3GS. Has a great solid feeling.
I don't care much for the camera. Only think i'd ask is decent, solid shots and that the sensor not to take much space in the back. Cameras usually spoil the design with a huge lump in the back. If it's glass could be made not to touch the surface of the table to prevent scratches, would be cool as well.
What i'd like to see is that great responsiveness to touch iphones have that android seems to lack, even on higher end devices. Sure they work great, but now and then android seems to skip a beat or just lag for 0.5 sec before registering touch. Lockscreens are particularly affected by this.
That said i have really high hopes for ICS. REALLY. I don't care much for competition (hey everyone should use whatever they like or suits them best) but android has always been a few steps ahead of iOS as far as complexity goes. This is a good thing, for me at least. I don't mean to offend anyone, but really, every time i need to use iOS i feel kind of retarded. Hand feeding me stuff that'd be obvious already just works against me. Apple didn't do much to add for that (seen loads of people disappointed, me included) so I honestly believe android can push it ahead once and for all.
My needs may be a bit different that the rest of the world, but i'd prefer some core improvements (like responsiveness improved and bug corrections) other than extra semi-useless new features (like voice control). That'd make for a more solid experience, imo. All that said, I'm kind of excited about this, might really be my next phone if it hits enough spots on my book.

kaynpayn said:
What i'd like to see:
I'd very much like if they'd stop making bigger screens. I really think 4'' was the sweet spot, nearly 5'' is... well, too big imo. I realize this may be a requirement for 1280 x 720-pixel res but i honestly believe my phone is big enough as it is (i own an SGS). Granted, higher resolution rules but... well, it's a phone, not a tablet.
I'd also like to see an SD card slot. I can't really see why not. Sure you already have 32Gb. More than enough for me as far as space goes, but i usually leave my phone downloading stuff over the night. SO much faster and easier to just take the card out and plugging in the computer in the morning than having all of that transferred over wireless again.
Android also has a few issues with sdcards (try setting an mp3 as your ringtone stored in the sd, removing, putting the card back in and get a call), but removing the slot completely isn't really a solution and it doesn't take that much space.
Aluminum instead of plastics. Or at least solid stuff for a lasting phone. Phones aren't meant to fall but shi* happens and i'd like my 500€ investment a bit better suited to survive. Don't really mind plastics though, they make my phone lighter, but i'd like some solid stuff for a change. At the very least, nothing as thin as the back cover of an SGS2, please. If we're doing plastics, i'm thinking the back cover of the iphone 3GS. Has a great solid feeling.
I don't care much for the camera. Only think i'd ask is decent, solid shots and that the sensor not to take much space in the back. Cameras usually spoil the design with a huge lump in the back. If it's glass could be made not to touch the surface of the table to prevent scratches, would be cool as well.
What i'd like to see is that great responsiveness to touch iphones have that android seems to lack, even on higher end devices. Sure they work great, but now and then android seems to skip a beat or just lag for 0.5 sec before registering touch. Lockscreens are particularly affected by this.
That said i have really high hopes for ICS. REALLY. I don't care much for competition (hey everyone should use whatever they like or suits them best) but android has always been a few steps ahead of iOS as far as complexity goes. This is a good thing, for me at least. I don't mean to offend anyone, but really, every time i need to use iOS i feel kind of retarded. Hand feeding me stuff that'd be obvious already just works against me. Apple didn't do much to add for that (seen loads of people disappointed, me included) so I honestly believe android can push it ahead once and for all.
My needs may be a bit different that the rest of the world, but i'd prefer some core improvements (like responsiveness improved and bug corrections) other than extra semi-useless new features (like voice control). That'd make for a more solid experience, imo. All that said, I'm kind of excited about this, might really be my next phone if it hits enough spots on my book.
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Good you pointed out about screen as many people including you have a little bit misunderstanding about bigger screens- a bigger screen doesn't mean a very big phone. they reduce the extra space from edges and boundaries to make screen big( give a nice look at sgs2 and sgs2 HD lte and you'll notice that sgs2 has a big home button which is more of a square whereas sgs2 hd lte has a mere small rectangle home button so they have reduced spaces for sure and also the small buttons will be till convinient to press), now the big fact in case of Samsung galaxy nexus or nexus prime is that it wont have those capacitive, back, menu ,home(mostly hard key) buttons, Those will be replaced by on screen buttons so more space reduced for bigger screen. All other things you pointed out will be made cleared once the ics and new device is itself released but about touch responsiveness - all smartphones these days have nearly same touch sensors which are gr8 but the thing which makes apple devices smoother and more responsive is GPU acceleration, which is very good in apple's ios then in android that's why many people were asking the Guy who got the ics equipped nexus s that ' did you feel gr8 touch responsiveness on your nexus s ?'. I am also looking forward to this event to know that will ics have gpu accelearion or not.
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Nexus Prime correct Specs
CORRECT SPECS:
http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php
"According to our source, the device codenamed Nexus Prime is going to ship with Samsung's own chipset, with a blazingly fast dual-core processor clocked at 1.5GHz. But wait, there's more.
On that chipset will also reside a powerful dual-core GPU from Imagination. We suspect it's going to be the PowerVR SGX543MP2, or in other words, the same GPU found in the iPad 2 (and quite probably on the iPhone 4S as well).
On the back, instead of the 5-megapixel snapper, our source claims, there's an 8-megapixel, full 1080p HD video-shooting camera with some sort of an improved sensor. As for the battery, expect a 2050mAh one (do we hear a whoa?), which should be good for a couple of days use without charging.
The Nexus Prime will also be LTE-enabled, but the most interesting part is that it would probably boast a dual-mode GSM/CDMA radio, just like the Apple iPhone 4S.
All those specifications sound almost too nice to be true, but keeping in mind the advertisement for the Nexus Prime, prompting us that "something BIG is coming", we won't be surprised if all of these purported specs turn out to be real.
What we do know for sure is that the head-turning 4.65-inch, 1280x720 pixels screen is definitely a go. Whatever the truth might be, we'll definitely find out on October 11, which is just a few days from now."

If you had to change phones soon...

I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?

bossku69 said:
I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)

I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...

blarrick said:
Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).

With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!

anoninja118 said:
TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.

Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).

ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.

imnuts said:
This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.

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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?

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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too

I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.

I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.

Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol

One X or One S?

Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!

I'm currently in a very similar situation as you. When I saw One X & One S after release during MWC I planned to get One X, because it looked like a better device for me.
My opinion changed after first negative feedback from One X early adopters, who noticed many bugs & defects, such as UI & browser lags, screen glitches, build quality issues and so on, there are many threads about that kind of problems in One X section.
After that I focused on One S, which appeared to be much faster thanks to 28 nm Krait CPU, which easily outperforms Tegra3 in day-to-day operations. One S also has better build quality, especailly the black/red one, with MAO. Polycarbonate may be fine, but for me nothing beats metal unibody, when it comes to build quality of a smartphone.
One S is also smaller which is an advantege for me. I don't have small hands, but I want to be able to use my smartphone comfortably with one hand.
I prefer LCD to AMOLED, but I could live with One S's qHD SAMOLED, it's not a deal breaker. Also I do not notice Pentile on my Galaxy S, so I guess I won't notice it on One S.
When it comes to memory more is always better. 10 GB may be too much for some, but for others it will be too little.
Tegra 3 SoC is also very closed-sourced, so it's much harder to work with for devs, than Qualcomm SoC's.

I prefer S (dont have one yet, getting when avaible)
1. I dont know about pixels, Im moving from HTC Tattoo, so I probably dont have problems (I might have, if I can test HTC One X and S side by side @ shop)
2. S should be faster. It have smaller screen and in daily uses its faster then tegra3 (daily programs dont use quad core).
3. I dont think u can last 8h screen time...
4. I dont even know if 4.3 is good for me, but 4.7 would be to large... I would prefer same hardware in 4' size
5. S should be built with really good quality, but recent topic stated some wierd scrach... Follow that thread to see more info (search general section).
6. I prefer S because: Smaller screen, faster daily use, better battery life

One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4

Hey guys, HTC Sensation user here
Ive been suffering terrible signal issues with the Sensation (XE) On Vodafone UK networks. This is a well known problem, And ive had a couple replacements with the same issues so i know the device isnt faulty.
Upon research ive discovered its the Antenna design which is the culprit, So after some complaining, Ive been offered The One S or One X
Id like to know about the antenna design (google wasnt much use) Is the antenna on the One series an external antenna ? Where the antenna connectors are on the back cover ?
Id like to know a bit more before i commit to getting it, So is anyone here a Vodafone (preferably UK) User with either The one S or X ??
Could you let me know about your signal reception ? And maybe if your feeling generous Post some pictures of the Back cover for me to inspect
Also, Which would you say is the 'better' device ? I know the X is quad core, The S is Dual core, But does that make a massive difference ? Except to the battery life, which isnt the best at any given time
Thanks people, Hopefully Speak to you all again when i receive my nice new phone

I had the One X and the width of the phone annoyed me.
Now got the One S and very happy with it. Little bit more snappier I feel in menus too.

I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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NardVa said:
I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.

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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I agree with you I had the choice of both today, I chose the One S. I know the X has quad core, but more isnt always better, There are pluses and negatives to both devices but in the end the S won my vote.
Besides i can see the quad core draining battery in a heartbeat lol

Yeah, quad core is probably the last feature I am interested in from the One X. I'd take the screen, 32GB storage and NFC over the processor.
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Hey, i'm quite new here and tought I write here too. I have the same problem right now. Don't know which to choose. But here are some points for both phones. At first there is the One X:
It has a 720p 4.7" display, based on HTCs new Super-LCD 2 with IPS technology and NO Pentile-Matrix. It is said to be the best display out there. Bright and natural colours with very good black and white values. But as said it is a very big display and not fitted for every hand.
The body is out of polycarbonate which is quite durable but also not too hard. But it still is plastic and so it feels a bit cheap( correct me if I'm wrong). It surely feels cheaper than the HTC One S. But it's lighter
Let's come to the processor. The One X has the nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core built in. It's an SoC based on the ARM Cortex A9 architecture in 40nm( for comparison: the Exynos 4210 is built on 45nm).
This isn't bad, but if you compare it to the new Krait architecture( somehow comparable to the new ARM Cortex A15 built on 28nm) it is significantly older and also slower. The Tegras GPU is an Nvidia own graphic unit which is known to be the worst of the newer GPUs( when all of them are at the same clock speed) but it should be fast enough to run most games smoothly so right now every new GPU is fast enough. A good point for the Kal-El may be the Tegra Zone, but I do not know enough of that service.
A big problem is the Quad Core unit. It's not that it's bad or doesn't work it's simply not optimized so most apps won't even fully use it. The companion core which is built into the SoC is a great power saver but it seems that it switches early to quad core( the companion core is not able to run when the quad core unit is active and the other way round) which could be seen on the battery life.
Let's come to battery life:
The One X has a 1800 mAh accu which is really good but cause of the quad core and the big display it will be consumed away very fast. So don't expect more than a day.
I don't know how much the Tegra and the display eats away so I cannot say if it will hold your 8h( display on).
I will only mention the differences of both handsets so I won't talk about the beats audio enhancement and the camera.
So let's come to the One S:
It is the smaller phone, and as you said it would be the perfect size. I think it's more comfortable to hold and also has the better feeling cause of it's unibody made out of aluminium. There are some known issues with the red black version but you can look them up in this forum.
The display is a Pentile-Matrix Super-AMOLED design with a qHD resolution( 960x540). If you compare it to the Galaxy S II Super-AMOLED-Plus non-Pentile display with a resolution of 800x480 the effective resolution is roughly the same( somehow 800*480*3 and 960*540*2 cause of the subpixel).
One problem for you may be the pixel density of the One S. When the One X has an pixel density of around 300 pixel per inch ( similar to your iPhone) the One S has one similar to your old Samsung.
The processor is something that really confuses me. It has the new Qualcomm Krait S4 SoC which seems to be a mystery.
It is built on a licensed ARMv7 architecture on 28nm called Krait. Qualcomm itself said it's comparable to a ARM Cortex A15 cpu. While that has to be seen it is clearly much faster than the Tegra 3, especially in everyday single-thread tasks. Here the Krait is extremely fast. The GPU while not the best out there is also a remarkable fast one that can compete to ARMs Mali 400 built in the Galaxy S II. You should not have problems with it.
One more thing for the Krait is it's really power efficient clocking. The Krait can clock each core independently so if it only needs one and a half it will clock the second core to half the speed. This gives it another great advantage over the Tegra which can only clock all together down.
At least the One S should hold as long as the One X despite it's smaller battery( 1650 mAh).
One other advantage may be the fact that some One S devices do have the new 3.0 Linux kernel. This is not confirmed but if it's right then the One S may be able to get USB-Hosting which means that you can use a real keyboard for example. This may arrive as an update.
So I personally prefer the One S despite the worse display and the small issues with the black and red version.
If you are interested in another phone you may also look for the Asus Padfone. Nearly the same stats as the One S but with an expendable storage and no beats audio enhancement. It may be interesting for you too.
Greetings Askannon
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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Hopefully the one XL comes to T-Mobile s4>tegra 3
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One s gets my vote... One x looks huge .. Uncomfortable to hold
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Midian666 said:
One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
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does your phone support glonass and the front camera is 1.3mp or 0.3mp VGA? thanks inadvance

I do not know whether it has glonass or not but the one s has a vga (0.3) and the one x has a 1.3 mp front camera
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Niiceg said:
Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
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1: Screen. It depends on you and your eyesight I'm afraid. I'm using a Nexus S as my daily driver and I didn't so much notice the pixels compared with my iPhone 4, as the screen is larger, so it's generally easier to use. I don't see the pixels on the One S; the One X does have a larger screen with a higher resolution but the difference wasn't as stark as I imagined it would be. SLCD vs AMOLED, too; AMOLED is a bit of a battery drain at times whereas the SLCD doesn't look as good at night.
2: Performance. Both felt beautifully smooth in that classic Androidy way, that is, sometimes the interface can feel a little elastic. I didn't notice any difference.
3: Battery. I didn't see eight hours of usage from my iPhone 4 unless that included a lot of music (the usage isn't screen on time). I doubt you'll see this from the One series. I'll see five hours of screen on time from my Nexus S if I restrict my data usage, especially over the 3G network. Reviews say that the One S has a small advantage, but from customers and colleagues, they're both "charge once a day" devices. No change here from almost anything else in the smartphone world, then!
4 Size. The One S feels very thin in the hand. It isn't small, it's tall, relatively narrow and oh-so-thin. It feels divine in my hands if I'm getting all arty about it. The One X, however, surprised me at how adept it felt in my hands. I was expecting it to feel a bit of a monster and it didn't. I don't like the One X's protruding lens for the camera, mind. It's quite a bump on the back.
5 Quality. Both feel good, but for me the One S takes this one. Going back to how wonderful it feels to handle, part of that is what it's made of.
6 What's better? If you need NFC, you need the One S. If you game, you're probably going to want the One X. If the One S had NFC I'd already have one, but it doesn't and I'd really like a slice of the NFC pie. If the One X didn't have that bulge on the back, I'd have one of those, but it does... So... I'm undecided.
Finally, as others have said, 9 Gb isn't so much, but it depends on your personal requirements. I don't believe the 9 Gb versus 14 Gb in my Nexus S would make any difference whatsoever as I don't use my handset as my main music device.

I think this thread has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've never really cared about a pretty screen to be honest.
When the display is not a factor, the One S is just... better...

I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses

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I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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Well, thanks for all your opinions But I decided to buy One X. Why? Because I hate Omnia 7 screen, which is almost the same as One S. I see pixels, it's not sharp and etc. Also, I decided that 12GB are not enough for me.
In my opinion, HTC did a bad thing releasing One S with this poor screen and small storage.

One S vs SIII

'sup folks.
This thread is dedicated to my lovely wife who just couldn't make up her mind between One S ("kinda looks nice"), Galaxy SIII ("oh nice screen"), and iPhone5 ("when is it coming out? my 3GS feels old"). And between all 3 of them, "can i unlock them?" (in Canada, phones are locked to their ISP, so if I buy it from, say, Rogers, I can't just pop another SIM card from, say, Bell.)
So what do u guys think?
Personally, I'm an Android guy through and through. Can't fix it? Find a ROM to restore it. Boot another ROM. Root it on day one. So iPhone is out of the question. But I tend to like the look of One S better than SIII. and i had good experience with HTC phones. and SIII costs $100 more.
But she's been using iPhone3GS, love the simplicity, has no idea what 'rooting' is and why its necessary no matter how many times I explained that it's necessary for TiBackup to work... But she plays around with my Nexus7 and loves to stream Korean drama and check Facebook with it. And last time we went to Costco she saw the SIII on display and goes "oh wow, that's a nice screen. does it work like ur Nexus? I kinda want it." So mainly for her, OneS is the cheaper phone, but SIII's screen looks amazing, and she'll only be using her phone for;
a. take photos
b. facebook
c. browse the latest grocery flyers and baby product review
d. stream korean dramas
e. whatsapp
What do you think she should pick up? Or she should just wait for the next iPhone in a month or two?
Any input?

I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.

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I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6

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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
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the RAZR and the HOS have the same screen, Pentile AMOLED 960x540. But i have seen many people state that the RAZR can have a yellow tint while the colors are more balanced on the HOS

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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nice. thanks!
so for my wife's sake, i can safely say "its like my RAZR, but the color is abit better".

I'd say 1S for your wife. Main reasons would be the superior camera and slim, sleek form factor. Honestly as much as I love my 1S I want to trade and get an S3, my hands are just too big for this thing!:screwy: but I think this is the best android phone for a woman hands down, it's a sexy device that's for sure.
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1S the best for sure...
To be hones I have not realy used the S3 myself... I have had it in my hands and just new it is way to big... I had the One X to start of with but then changed it for a 1S mainly because of the size... Why would I need a "mobile PHONE" with a quadcore anyway...?!

i just traded my tmobile GS3 for a htc one s plus cash. the GS3 camera sucks at night. i can post photos in a few. my buddy has the evo 4g lte which should be the same camera as the one s. u will see a big difference in quality. also the GS3 was pretty big. i thought it would be cool but i didnt like it cause it was hard to use with just one hand. unless u got some big hands u might like it. plus the one s just feels better in the hand and it feels lighter. oh and HTC Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday lol.
1st Pic: GS3
2nd Pic: Evo 4G LTE
3rd Pic: GS3
4th Pic: Evo 4G LTE

Comprehensive breakdown because I feel like doing one to refresh the mind.
CPU/GPU: Known quantity. One S isn't as fast as the GS3 here (international to international) but the reduced resolution of the One S hides the GPU deficit and the CPUs are basically equal. The US GS3 is same for CPU, slightly slower on GPU because they use the same chipset.
Display: One S is MUCH better in terms of calibration. The white point is accurate and gamma stays constant. Brightness is essentially only limited by hard protection, but you should never need to turn it up to that point. Overall, the One S has the better colors, GS3 has the better pixel density. Pick your poison.
Camera: Stock to stock, GS3 might win because the One S has pretty heavy compression on both video and photos. Once you get an HQ camera mod though, even the very best that the GS3 can produce is not as sharp as the One S. The One S doesn't use flash for focusing though, so that's something the GS3 wins on for low light flash photos.
Software: Sense is nice for people who know it, and looks nice too. Touchwiz is more functional but doesn't look as good. Once you get rid of Sense's 3D effects it runs much better on the home screen. Elsewhere is a matter of ROM optimization, and is basically close enough to not be worth discussing
Battery: The One S CAN be much better for battery life than the GS3, but requires much more management to do so, because even small battery drainers can lead to big loss of battery because the One S has a much smaller battery capacity compared to the GS3. GS3 is generally less efficient because of the very blue display, and the fact that it's a HUGE display. Exynos might draw more power too.
Design: Subjective. If you like metal, I guess the One S wins.
Decisive winners: If you care about expandable storage and removable battery enough to swing your decision, GS3 will probably be the one you want.

I agree with most of the above apart from:
CPU/GPU - The CPU in the one S is the better one overall as the performance per core is quite a bit better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 and at this stage currently with android and apps, it is far more important than having an additional 2 cores. Not only is it better for performance, but it is also better for power efficiency and the amount of heat given out
The GPU in the int. GS 3 is far better. Although as you said there isn't much difference in real world use especially as the S has the inferior res. so games etc. won't be as stressful.
Also the One S does beat the GS 3 in quite a few benchmark tests, the GS 3 only really beats it in tests that use/are dependant on the GPU i.e. quadrant (also quadrant gives quad core a better score just due to it having 2 extra cores)
In real world usage though, there isn't a huge amount of difference, I personally found the one S to be more snappy/instant feel and the GS 3 more smoother overall (there should be very little to virtually no difference when JB comes to both phones officially)
Camera - GS 3 100 times over the one S for 1080P video recording quality (however, the one s 100 times over the GS 3 for stereo audio recording ), however, the camera for photos is more or less equal, some shots look better on the GS 3 and likewise for the S, however, the camera UI and features are far better on the S
Battery - The battery life is better on the S overall (personally I didn't do much tweaking to it, just turned stuff like auto brightness off, wifi max performance off etc.
However, with the GS 3 you can have the option to use spares and an extended battery at some point.......due to it being removable
Whilst the GS 3 does have a bigger battery, it needs it due to the bigger and 720P screen as well as a more power hungry CPU
Imagine how long the S would last with one full charge on a 2100mAh battery!
And yup, exactly, the extra storage of the GS 3 and removable battery are 2 of the main deciding factors IMO.
Honestly think your wife will prefer the one S due to size, sense (you really don't need to faff about with rooting and replacing every app with 3rd party ones, sense apps are great and they also look "pretty" )

very informative, guys! thanks!
i think 1S wins for her due to smaller size and (arguably) better/faster camera. she's quite a petite lady. and i dont think she cares about battery replacement or storage. haha, storage... all the years she owns 3G and 3GS, she downloaded a total of probably 10 apps. 7 she removed on the first day. (i know she kept the Economist, Whatsapp, and BBC News....)
but if she does wants the bigger "nicer" (in her own words) screen, then all bets are off... i'll talk to her again tonight