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Gmail IMAP must be the most confusing thing ever

Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
2. data traffic counter in WM. Where can I see how much data went over the GPRS/HSDPA connection? In total and in the last session?
Thank you all
Alex

think your imap pickle is more an imap thing then a wm thing as google imap in outlook
on my pc is the same way
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astrbac said:
Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
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You don't sound familiar with Gmail's label concept. Think of each label as a mask, and each message having a bitmap of its labels. You can tag each message with many labels. You label (move to folder) and remove labels (delete from folder) by masking bits.
Delete from a folder (including Inbox) and you've only masked a label bit. If you want to really delete the message, delete it from [Gmail]/All Mail.

Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!

I use FastMail.FM for my IMAP mail.
When I want to sync IMAP sub folders I have to go to:
Menu, Tools, Manage Folders and select all subfolders that I want to synchronize. (to make sure the content is synced, not just an empty folder)
Doesn't GMAIL work the same way?

Quite frankly, I don't see any advantage of use IMAP over pop and not to mention POP is faster and simpler

I see a lot of advantages.
My IMAP servers is pulling POP3 mail from other servers, so I have all my mail in one place.
I always have it backed up.
I can access it from anywhere, and read my mail anywhere.
(from my PC, laptop, Shift, webmail)
I can archive mail to subfolders.
etc,etc..
BTW, you are right about the speed. POP3 is a bit faster to check for new mail. I don't see why it would be simpler.

imap support push
pop3 itself does not

astrbac said:
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
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Lately I've been using Postbox on Windows and Mac. It's built from Mozilla code and has similarities to Thunderbird, but it's a lot more stable and a lot better IMO. Also, it makes using Gmail IMAP a whole lot easier.

Remove email off phone after sync

Hi all. Apologies for this post, it should be such a simple thing.
When I activesync my HTC Touch HD / Blackstone to my PC, I'd like all the emails synced and then removed from the phone. Does anyone know which setting this is? I can't find it on activsync or in the email settings. I have yahoo and they were on that account on my mobile while i was away. i've just added mail to the list of things to sync and the emails have left the yahoo folder, gone into outlook on the pc, then outlook has been added to my mobile as an account and all the message have been copied to there.
What i'd like is to have 2 folders - yahoo & hotmail - with emails to be dumped onto their respective account folders when i sync with outlook on my pc. Any tips on how I set this up?
Thanks in advance.
dez

dez93_2000 said:
Hi all. Apologies for this post, it should be such a simple thing.
When I activesync my HTC Touch HD / Blackstone to my PC, I'd like all the emails synced and then removed from the phone. Does anyone know which setting this is? I can't find it on activsync or in the email settings. I have yahoo and they were on that account on my mobile while i was away. i've just added mail to the list of things to sync and the emails have left the yahoo folder, gone into outlook on the pc, then outlook has been added to my mobile as an account and all the message have been copied to there.
What i'd like is to have 2 folders - yahoo & hotmail - with emails to be dumped onto their respective account folders when i sync with outlook on my pc. Any tips on how I set this up?
Thanks in advance.
dez
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Something you might want to try is if Yahoo or Hotmail support IMAP. That way, when you change an email on device, it affects the server copy too.
Outlook on desktops has support for rules, which may be of use for you. (I think google is more likely to be helpful than I am!) I know from personal use that rules can delete duplicate emails, and move emails around...

for info of anyone reading - IMPA was the way. I wassn't sure what imap was, but basically it maps to the server store rather than downloading stuff, so the messages dissapear from the phone once you download them from the server to your computer.

[Q] How to sync emails from PC with Android phone (Galaxy S)?

Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a n00b question but I would like to sync my emails from my PC with my phone.
On the PC I use thunderbird to download all emails (got like 6 email accounts) to the pc and delete them from the server immidiately. (I've had accounts beeing hacked in the past because I left password emails etc in my inbox, so I started to delete them from server instead of leaving them on for more security - so I can't just "download them again" from the phone - I will need to sync the phone with the data from the PC. I could switch my email client program off course if thats needed, but I rather not let the messages lay somewhere online.
Can someone maybe explain to me how that would work or give me a link or smth?
It would be perfect if it would work both sides: Either I sync the phone with the PC or the PC with the phone, or a real sync where just the new emails get exchanged. (On the same time I'd also get this to work for my laptop but phone more important now since i got it heh)
I hope someone can help me.

you can't sync with EVERY email client..
it does sync with outlook/OE... I don't know about thunderbird tho. What you CAN try to do is change the settings to never delete emails from your server when downloaded to your computer and then sync so that when you delete them from your phone they'd be deleted from the server.
get my drift?

hmm well im used to thunderbird, but i dont have to keep using it necessarily. I'd change if it makes this whole syncing easier. Its been bugging me for a while that I didnt have my emails on my laptop but now i also need em on the phone.. so I wanna finally get this to work.
The method you described wouldnt work if I somehow download the emails to the phone first instead of the pc, it would work like u described, but if I'd rather work it in both ways, a real "sync".
With outlook you could do this yea?

Try using Gmail or Windows Live mail, its more compatabile with most wireless. Goto m.live.com or Gmail

well, if you use gmail you can easily keep it on both your computer and your phone and it would sync both ways.

Get a gmail account. Then forward all your email accounts to the gmail account. You can also set the gmail account to send out as one of the other accounts.
Setup the gmail account as an imap client in thunderbird or outlook. Create a folder under the inappropriate account named old emails or whatever. Move the emails stored in your local folders to the folder setup under the imap account (you can do it directly to the inbox if you prefer).
Setup gmail on your mobile device.
Say thanks.
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Cleaner Explanation.
1) Create a Gmail account at Gmail.com (or skip this step if you already have one).
2) Log into the web versions of each of your email accounts. Set the account to forward all emails to the new gmail account address (typically these settings are found under the settings or Options menu somewhere on the page). If you would like to continue to use these accounts you can either:
a) Give Gmail permission to send emails as all the accounts or one in particular. (Note once in the mobile apps, you cannot choose different sender addresses, only the default one. You can however change from each address on the web interface).​ b) Set a forwarder and then specify to leave a message on the server.​
3) Setup the gmail account you created as an IMAP account (use IMAP not SMTP) in thunderbird or Outlook.
a) You can find the Imap settings for desktop clients here.​
4) Once the initial sync is complete, simply drag and drop the emails from the old inbox to the Gmail account's inbox (listed in a tree menu under the IMAP.Gmail.Com listing.
5) You can now set up this email address as a SMTP or IMAP (IMAP keeps the emails on the server. This is a better idea in some cases as you have exact copies of emails on all devices you set them up as.
6) Say thanks
You can also manually do this for each email account you have, but that would take much longer and some companies do not allow or simply haven't moved to using IMAP yet (freaky right?).
Using the gmail way, you have all your emails from all your accounts plus the wonders of google. This is the easiest way to do it I can think of.
I hope my explanation is clean and clear.

thanks for the detailed explanation I guess I'll do it that way.
But the downside that you have to keep the mails on the server still stays this way. I'd really love the option to do a real sync how you expect a sync to be but I guess thats complicated or doesnt work?
I mean like.. when I'm at home .. I download the mails from my desktop pc over usb or wlan. Then I download new emails while I'm travelling or smth - and when I get back home I sync my desktop with the phone emails.
This must work somehow? I'd really hate to have to leave my emails on the server since I got bad experience with this.
I guess I'm just beeing paranoid - but I'm also perfectionist heh, so I'd love to try n get it going "the perfect way" - aka a real offline sync without usage of any server storage. (unless you count my desktop as a server..)

If you setup the system to use smtp on the phone it will dowbload the email, other than that i would suggest using a very good password.
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[Q] Exchange functionality in WP7

Hello,
My company uses hosted Exchange Server for about 200 users, we have been using BB for many years, now we are free to go anyway we want.
Questions: When viewing e-mails from exchange account, can we move them to folders and when moving folders, can we type the name of the folder or do we have to scroll to find the one and then tap to move it? Or is there any app/add-on or customization we can get to allow this?
Also, do all folders get automatically synched to phone, or do we have to select which ones? I hope it syncs them all with no questions, especially when a new one is created on outlook.
Last question, is there a unified inbox for all folders, so e-mails in all folders (not just all accounts) displayed in one screen with icons next to them indicating they are in a folder? If not, that's cool.
I am just trying to move from BB to Windows Phone, and trying to figure out if it has the features I use most frequently.
Answers would really be appreciated.

You can move emails to folders. You must select the folder from a list. There are no apps or customizations AFAIK to change that.
All folders don't automatically get synced, but when you select a folder for the first time you get the option of turning on sync for that folder. Actually to be honest I am not sure if it syncs the folder just that once or if it will continue to sync that folder automatically.
There is no unified-folder view.

Thanks for the reply.
Someone answered this question else where with:
I figured it out recently, just click on bottom right "..." and you will see all the options you are looking for, all folders are there and can be selected + unified messaging....
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Is this possible? i don't own a WP7 device, so I can't try, can you check this please? Is this only for unified messaging from multiple accounts?
Regarding folder sync, the reason I asked is because if it automatically syncs all from exchange server, when you create a new folder on Outlook, you would not have to go back to you WP and select it. Is that the case?

Sync folders are not added automatically, you need to do so manually. The only folders synced by default are Inbox and Sent. Drafts can not be synced. All others can be but you have to set it up manually.
The assumed use case is that a user will only have a few folders inportant enough that they want to use the data and storage to sync them on the phone. Out of some 20-ish folders, I only sync 3 on my phone; the rest aren't time-critical. Exchange rules do a pretty good job of filtering the important from the unimportant for me. This way I can turn on the notification for new mail and have it mean something, rather than just have the phone buzzing all day (I get 300+ emails every day at work).

Just to add to this. They are not synced automatically but are listed automatically. You choose the folder then tell it to sync. after that it will follow the default settings for your exchange account and receive emails pushed.
Also you can pin any of those folders to your start screen. I have one for the directors, one for the CEO and one for staff that is always on my start screen.
We are using exchange 2010 at our office and it pretty much rocks. Also IE9 on Windows phone mango fully supports all outlook web mail options. Works great to access the extra calendars like rooms and such.
In your contacts also you can search the exchange server for an address. Exchange support rocks in windows phone.
Also download the emulator, setup an account and try it out. I think that's possible at least as you can test apps on the emulator.
lastly it also follows exchange rules. You can wipe the phone from (even the user can wipe there own) right through OWA on exchange 2010. Also you can set rules to force pin locks and i think although i haven't tried it, limit what the user can do.
Oh and one more thing... it has sharepoint built in. I haven't tried it yet as i just set up a sharepoint foundation server to pitch to the admins once i've worked more on it. That and onenote

[Q] Need help configuring exchange email on native mail app

Hi all,
Been an Android/Note 10.1 user only for a week now. I am trying to get my note configured to get work emails from exchange server. I got it working by doing manual active sync configuration etc. Problem is my mail folders are showing incorrect number of read/unread mails. Say if I have 15 unread mails in a folder, it shows the same number even after opening 5-6 in that folder. I appears to be showing the total number of mails in that particular folder instead of showing the number of unread mails. Is there a way to fix it? I have "push" enabled for each of my sub folders. I looked through all the options, I could be missing something. can someone guide me how to get it working. I am an iOS user where I can configure all my mails in one tool and it works perfectly fine. I would like to set up my mail same way in Android if possible. If there is any app that could accomplish this, please let me know.
TIA