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[Q] I have HSDPA service, but 3g refuses to function!

When my phone shows the H symbol for network, it works well, but when I'm not using the network (no traffic), it falls back into 3g and gets stuck on upload. Occasionally, H service will come back, but often it won't. I have found if I turn the screen off, H service is restored.
I have had this problem for months now. I have a i9020a. Currently I have CM9 April 8th nightly installed, using the i9020AUCKJ1 radio. I just got done reverting to the stock build recently released from Google (IMM76D, I think), then upgrading to CM9.
No matter what I've done, nothing has worked:
1. reverting to stock then upgrading to a custom rom (Team-Kang, CyberGR, CM9, etc);
2. trying different radios;
3. opening phone info (*#*#4636#*#*) and changing it to GSM auto PRL as well as setting the band to USA;
4. making sure the APN is correct;
5. restoring the IMEI backup;
Any ideas what the issue could be?

H is 3G. Only active while data is being actively sent/received and it is actually feasible to use in your current area. Also, are you sure it is not only the animation that gets stuck?
Is there an actual problem, though? Is something not working quite right (data, sync, notifications, etc)?

It gets stuck on UMTS:3 (just keeps trying to upload) and won't work again until I turn off the screen and then it will usually revert to HSDPA:9.
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chrisnathan1983 said:
It gets stuck on UMTS:3 (just keeps trying to upload) and won't work again until I turn off the screen and then it will usually revert to HSDPA:9.
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you should download taskiller.. kill all app before you use your internet, i have same problem and always solved with that way..
hope this helping
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While taskiller certainly kills most running processes, it does nothing to help my network connection.
On a separate note, my roommate has the same phone and his maintains a steady HSDPA:9 connection without ever dropping into a UMTS:3 connection.
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chrisnathan1983 said:
While taskiller certainly kills most running processes, it does nothing to help my network connection.
On a separate note, my roommate has the same phone and his maintains a steady HSDPA:9 connection without ever dropping into a UMTS:3 connection.
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The normal behavior of the phone is to use HSDPA while it's in need(download/upload) , when not in use automatically goes to UMTS:3
What ROM your room mate is using ? model ? radio ? network ?
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Gasashi said:
you should download taskiller.. kill all app before you use your internet, i have same problem and always solved with that way..
hope this helping
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You're talking totally rubbish ... Killing apps will not enhance anything and may even slow things down by needing more CPU power to open auto apps again...

I have expereinced the same issues with my 9020a on ATT. Sent phone to Samsung twice, changed SIM cards 4 times. Updated radios, now on 4.0.4 getting about 120 kbps download speeds while my other phone (work phone), iphone4s on att, gets about 5 mbps.
Call att, they credited me my entire months bill and offered a free galaxy note with a 2 year agreement. My thought is that ma' bell is just killing any unlocked phone or there are issues related to "LTE" rollout they wont admit to that is causing a disruption with 3.5G.
Anyways to the OP, you aren't alone. I too hope someon can help!

My roommate is using the same rom, CM9 (nightly from 3/29 though), radio is i9020xxkb3, network is also AT&T with same plan.
Watching the About Phone/Status on his phone, it stays on HSDPA:9.
My returns to UMTS:3 when not in use, but when in this mode, I get no network traffic at all. I will flash upload but will never download anything. Occasionally, H service will be restored, and I will get my network connection back.
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He is also using an i9020a
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This is a screenshot of what happens. The mobile signal is consistent until I turn the screen on and the something happens.
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why you're wifi on ?

I don't always turn it off when I go to work. Unless I'm traveling I usually leave it on.
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To begin proper troubleshooting turn wifi off while you browseand report back

I experience the same connectivity problems whether I have the wifi off or not.
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same problem bro
i am from the Philippines and i'm experiencing the same problem with my i9023. No connection when on "3G", connection resumes when "H" or "E" appears in status bar

I too have this problem it's annoying!!
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[Q] Nexus S 4G - DATA DROPS

I have been having this problem with both of my Nexus S 4G ever since I got them 2 months ago.
My data drops out frequently and takes a while to get back up. If I have 4G enabled, then I have to manually reconnect it as it will not do it on it's own. This happens inside AND outside. Driving down the road or just standing in one spot.
I've tried all of the radios (basebands) and about 7 different ROMs and versions.
I've refreshed the data profile, PRL, and even tried the roaming Verizon PRL and Hybrid PRL.
Gone back to stock and tried everything from scratch. Still the same problem.
Dallas/Fort Worth Area
Network: Sprint
Baseband: D720SPRKE1
PRL Version: P:40447
I contacted Sprint and they just told me to update the profile & PRL.....
Any suggestions?

I'm not familiar with the CDMA nexus s, but are you able to change APN's? At one point I'd be able to connect to 3g (I have an I9020A), but every minute or so it would drop, so I fixed up the APN's for my carrier.

iv had a few data issues
forcing PRL and account updates has fixed it a couple of times
i'v bought used phones that iv had
to have sprint force update
im on LC1
[altho i cant tell any significant difference here]
and my prl is 61086
[a business account]
im currently on slim
make sure your mobile network
is set to roam
is not set to home only

Am I the only one with this problem? As I'm typing this I lost data but still had 3 bars. I never drop calls but only data.
Help please. This is driving me nuts.
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andrewddickey said:
Am I the only one with this problem?
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no
i go thru periods of it acting bizarre
try disabling wifi and reboot
this USUALLY fixes mine till wifi is re-enabled
and i drop the sprint connection a few times
riding around
it then fails to re-acquire the IP address.
look in your status and see if you still have an IP
when your data fails
fwiw

I never use Wi-Fi. Ever.
Happens while using both 3G and 4G.
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4G is worthless here...
i dont even bother with the switch
does it do the same thing if you disable 4G?

I almost always have to use 4G (if possible) since 3G speeds are slower than dial-up.
I've tried rebooting and leaving 4G off, and still the same. Even tried going back to Gingerbread.
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andrewddickey said:
I almost always have to use 4G (if possible) since 3G speeds are slower than dial-up.
I've tried rebooting and leaving 4G off, and still the same. Even tried going back to Gingerbread.
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If going back to GB doesnt help, maybe it is hardware related?
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This is happening with BOTH of my NS4G.
Possibility that BOTH have hardware defects?

Do a profile and prl update
Hit the thanks button if i helped

R0M CHEF said:
Do a profile and prl update
Hit the thanks button if i helped
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In the original post, I stated that was one of the things I've done.

have you checked to see if you have an IP address
when data fails?
mine shows "unavailable" when it's wonky
and wont re-aquire till i reboot.
i'v seen this on 2 phones
off and on including on oem 2.3.7
fwiw

andrewddickey said:
Am I the only one with this problem?
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I have the same problems. From what I understand, its a problem with the hardware. I can confirm that's probably the case, because I've tried many different ROMs (stock, cm, etc...) and they all have the same radio issues (3g/4g and wifi)...

I have an NS4G in the DFW area and haven't seen the issues you're reporting. I'm currently on 4.0.4 with D720SPRLC1 baseband. Maybe I'm just lucky and have a good signal at work and home. It's very rare that I find an area of DFW where I don't get any data signal at all. Not sure what to suggest.

I get random drops too and i hate it. My 3g speeds are fairly good even above 1 mbps. Highest i ever got on 3g was 1.51 mbps

Mine will lose data if I'm in a coverage free area for an extended period of time, when I'm back in range 3g icon will show up just never reconnect. A reboot fixes it

Certain Areas
There are certain areas where I live that data just disappears. Although this is just a network thing I believe. It's weird though when I am driving it's like a 10 second drop and then all is good. Hope you get a solid fix!:victory:

Backup 4g Partition
REMOVED - was a bad idea.

I've actually replaced BOTH of the phones with brand new NS4Gs and they shipped with ICS.
Still the same problem.
This is driving me nuts. I was driving and trying to download Maps for the new phone from the Play Store and it took 6 tries. Kept saying RETRY.
What I've come to believe is happening is:
When 4G connects, 3G disconnects. When 4G drops (which is does frequently), 3G has to reconnect.
***Is there a way to keep 3G "on" in the background while 4G is connected?*** Maybe a way for the radio to transition back and forth?

Randomly disconnects from cellular network

My One S is randomly dropping all reception on cell.network.
If i put it in Flight mode and then turn Flight mode off again and enter my pin, the phone is reconnected again..
Anyone seen this?

That happens to me also. I'll have 3 bars with 4g then all the sudden I have no service for like 2 minutes. I have no idea if its a Rom issue or network issue or radio issue.
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I have also this problem with restart most of the time I have too take out my microchip and put it back in.
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I also experienced network signal getting lost for some time / struck on Airplane mode
my very strange experience is ... my mobile screen is not turning on and keeps on vibrating for half an hour

This used to be a huge problem for me, but the recent OTA has resolved it completely...

I can repeat what I told someone else about text issues. I had the signal issue as well, it would constantly jump up and down and turn into an X so here was my reply...
LibertyMonger said:
I can tell you how i fixed my issue when something similar was happening to me. I had this issue on my previous phone as well so i figured after getting this phone and it continued it had to be something to do with my account setup. Some kind of glitch. So after getting fed up with Tech support I had my network account manager have all my features and account removed, then added back on like it was a new account. Then I did a factory reset and woila! My network signal is stronger than ever. Texts send instantly! Faster than I have ever seen them send! lol.
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Your issues may not be the same but i can say that my signal is better than i ever had seen it! And absolutely no more loss of signal X's

Nexus 5 cell reception issue?

Anyone using a nexus 5 on T-Mobile in the NY city area getting very bad reception I'm not sure if there's an issue with the device or tmobiles service coming from an HTC one that had excellent reception I think there might be something wrong with my device
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dashraider said:
Anyone using a nexus 5 on T-Mobile in the NY city area getting very bad reception I'm not sure if there's an issue with the device or tmobiles service coming from an HTC one that had excellent reception I think there might be something wrong with my device
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Are you getting excellent HSPA+ reception, but the phone isn't switching to LTE or connects to LTE, but jumps back to HSPA+?
Go to a T-Mobile store and tell them about your situation (don't chat with them online because that did not fix my situation). The rep that I spoke with called tech support and they did some sort of reset on my account. I also asked for a new SIM and was given that new ISIS SIM. As soon as my phone booted, it was on LTE and stayed on LTE. I was like you, thinking that my device was messed up, but T-Mobile fixed it.

No if you check the discharge chart I posted the phone is just completely loosing service but I haven't tried getting a new Sim yet I'll try that and see if it helps
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fix?
dashraider said:
No if you check the discharge chart I posted the phone is just completely loosing service but I haven't tried getting a new Sim yet I'll try that and see if it helps
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Did you get a new SIM yet? Is the issue solved? I'm having the same issue...my signal is terrible but I haven't tried to get a new sim.

waqas1988 said:
Did you get a new SIM yet? Is the issue solved? I'm having the same issue...my signal is terrible but I haven't tried to get a new sim.
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tried the new sim seemed to improve it a little in some areas but overall still terrible hard reset it and still had the issue so i called last night and set up an rma

dashraider said:
tried the new sim seemed to improve it a little in some areas but overall still terrible hard reset it and still had the issue so i called last night and set up an rma
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I'm having connectivity problems as well in Dallas. Very spotty connection, especially inside buildings.

dashraider said:
Anyone using a nexus 5 on T-Mobile in the NY city area getting very bad reception I'm not sure if there's an issue with the device or tmobiles service coming from an HTC one that had excellent reception I think there might be something wrong with my device
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I'm in NYC (East Village area) - I'm generally on LTE but it does switch to H from time to time. How can I check connection on my phone like you have in your screenshots?

AceKingNYC said:
I'm in NYC (East Village area) - I'm generally on LTE but it does switch to H from time to time. How can I check connection on my phone like you have in your screenshots?
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Its in battery under settings and then tap on the battery chart also by the end of yesterday my phone spent about 30% of the day with out signal according to cell standby in the battery settings my HTC one that I've gone back to using has signal almost 100% of the time

Android.Addiction said:
I'm having connectivity problems as well in Dallas. Very spotty connection, especially inside buildings.
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If every other phone you had before this one had much better service I would suggest getting it replaced with mine if I walked inside just about any building even single story stores and homes it would loose signal

dashraider said:
If every other phone you had before this one had much better service I would suggest getting it replaced with mine if I walked inside just about any building even single story stores and homes it would loose signal
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The problems you describe were while using T-Mobile on a Nexus 5? I've only had T-Mobile service about a week now, before that I always used AT&T on samsung android phones (S4, Note II, etc). And service was always very strong on AT&T.

dashraider said:
Anyone using a nexus 5 on T-Mobile in the NY city area getting very bad reception I'm not sure if there's an issue with the device or tmobiles service coming from an HTC one that had excellent reception I think there might be something wrong with my device
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Anecdotally, I'm having terrible reception in NYC as well. At home and in the office, barely one bar, frequently none.
Over the past 2 years on an HTC Sensation 4G, have typically had no reception problems in these same areas - 2-3 bars at all times.

Android.Addiction said:
The problems you describe were while using T-Mobile on a Nexus 5? I've only had T-Mobile service about a week now, before that I always used AT&T on samsung android phones (S4, Note II, etc). And service was always very strong on AT&T.
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I've had T-Mobile for years and never had connection issues as bad as this so im hoping it was just a faulty device and not the device in general just getting poor reception

BKPhil said:
Anecdotally, I'm having terrible reception in NYC as well. At home and in the office, barely one bar, frequently none.
Over the past 2 years on an HTC Sensation 4G, have typically had no reception problems in these same areas - 2-3 bars at all times.
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sounds like the same issue im having ill update when ever i get my replacement to see if anythings changed

We have the same issue with Nexus 5 with Tmobile in greater NYC metro area. When i tried with my old Samsung mobile there is no issue and it works fine. The problem, I can't make and receive any calls. Most of the callers told me, it goes to voice message after couple of rings. I didn't get even single ring and voice mail message. Frustrating Nexus 5.

My friend and I have the same problem too.
Both 16gb White
What colour of nexus 5 you guys have?
I see some have white, maybe white causes this issue??

Having the same issue as well. I have a 32gb white model and I randomly lose all bars when my friend calls me. It is very random and only happens a few times. Going to go and switch out the SIM from T-Mobile and have them reset my line and see if that fixes the problem.

king23adrianc said:
My friend and I have the same problem too.
Both 16gb White
What colour of nexus 5 you guys have?
I see some have white, maybe white causes this issue??
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32GB black with miserable cell reception here, so not a color issue.
Maybe an LTE issue? Might explain why our old devices got better reception, if they were using older gen signals/antennas? Not that we'd want to in the long term, can we disable the LTE services and live off the previous gen, at least to test?
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Boweezie said:
Having the same issue as well. I have a 32gb white model and I randomly lose all bars when my friend calls me. It is very random and only happens a few times. Going to go and switch out the SIM from T-Mobile and have them reset my line and see if that fixes the problem.
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I get lots of complete dead drop outs too, even on Wifi. One moment cruising along, the next I'm disconnected, the next I'm back on. Something is not right with this device.

Hmm I need to also find some time to visit a t-mobile store and check out why my reception just drops and gets spotty all of the sudden sometimes.
I have the 32gb white model. I never get LTE while two of my friends with Nexus 5 that were next to me both got LTE.
I also had my signal drop to 0 in a starbucks before, and I never had that happen with my previous Nexus 4, was frustrating since I couldn't get the promo code for my starbucks reward drink x.x

Ok guys Google is definitely on its game with replacing your your nexus 5 placed my RMA Sunday night got it today and I can report my new phone is working as it should I wouldn't say it gets as good a signal as my one did but a minimal difference that you would expect between two different devices so if your having an issue call up Google tell them you already spoke to T-Mobile about your service issues and they couldn't help you and that your certain its a device issue as a side note their RMA process has you basically buy a new device and send them the old one
Also I had a black 32gb so I don't think the color matters
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After my research, When we switch back to 2G (GSM Only) option there is no issue with voice calls but the data speed is very slow as expected. It seems that there is an issue with T-mobile towers LTE/3G/4G for voice calls. Below is the problem with Sprint network, looks like same thing happening for Tmobile.
s4grudotcom - sprint lte connectivity issues due to circuit switched fallback technology.
If you need voice calls high priority like me, give a try to switch GSM only.it shows E network on signal bar.

[Q] Signal drop/No service

Just wondering if any one else gets this, sometimes my signal just drops out and I get no service.
Then it comes back it does not happen all the time, I live in a big city Leeds infact so signal is quite strong.
Just wondering if it could be a fault with the phone?
Thanks

I've noticed it happens to me too.

Tony_YYZ said:
I've noticed it happens to me too.
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I was wondering if its my device because I live in the city and the signal is excellent around here, my other phone HTC sensation never had this problem. Was concerned it could be software/hardware problem possibly.
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bassist9 said:
I was wondering if its my device because I live in the city and the signal is excellent around here, my other phone HTC sensation never had this problem. Was concerned it could be software/hardware problem possibly.
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It's likely the radio software.

Tony_YYZ said:
It's likely the radio software.
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Right I see could this possibly be fixed in next update you think?
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bassist9 said:
Right I see could this possibly be fixed in next update you think?
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It is definitely possible.

I'm on AT&T and have the correct APN settings and have called AT&T with my IMEI. I have significantly worse signal than with my HTC One X. I am not comparing bars to bars, but rather where the signal drops completely. In places where I had low signal but still connected I now have nothing.

Straight talk using at&t Sim and notice radio drops..
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T-Mobile on stock ROM i had my first signal drops.
I was fine (or at least never noticed them) from the time i got my phone (day one) without any drops here in orlando.
Drove over to Tampa/Venice Beach area this past weekend and noticed some drops. Had about 6 drops according to my battery stats in 2 days. i had good to excellent coverage the entire time except when it would drop comlpetely (outline of signal bars)
would connect in a couple seconds, but i noticed over night, it would drop for a pretty large amount of time (like 10-15 minutes at a time.)

Mmm defo seems like were all having the same issues, wonder what it could be
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I had this issue too, and here's how I fixed it:
By default LTE is enabled, meaning the phone will periodically scan for a LTE network. If you're in a big city, you're likely to find one. Your phone will attempt to connect. However, it fails, meaning it will have to rescan the HSPA bands to connect back. That results in a few seconds of no service. Why can't it connect to LTE? Because by default, the APN is not the LTE APN, for Rogers at least. I'd assume AT&T would be the same. You can test this by dialing *#*#4636#*#*, selecting phone info, and selecting LTE only. You'll see that there is no service. I tested this in an area I knew had great LTE coverage, and that led me to the conclusion that it's LTE causing the signal drops.
So how to fix? Simple, just change your APN to the LTE APN for your carried. To do that go to Settings -> More -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names. If you're experiencing this issue on Rogers, change the APN field to ltemobile.apn. If you're on another carrier, you'll have to search for their LTE APN configuration.
After doing this your phone should start connecting to LTE again, and you won't get those annoying signal drops.

PaulGoogle Employee
Nov 20
A few days ago I let you know that we'd be reaching out on email to some of you for some additional bug report data. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to our email -- the bug data you sent in has been helpful to us in tracking this down.
This is looking like a software issue on our side, and we're investigating a fix.
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So yeah the next update will probably fix the issue. It's not so bad in the meantime, Lightflow sill notify you that your nexus has lost signal, and you still get the internet and incoming calls.

We're not alone. Supposedly Google is "aware" of the issue.

i've hcanged my setting from '4g' to '3g' to see if i notice a difference (hopefully will) then when 4g is released or i get a 4g sim, can move it back up

Yes, I'm having issues too. The real problem is the fact that I have a Wilson cell booster in my home (supposed to have up to 5000 square foot range) and my n4 had full bars most everywhere inside. With my n5 It shows 1 to 2 bars if I'm lucky and quite often drops to none! The only way to get full bars Is to stand right under the indoor antenna. Not impressed, and I sure hope this is fixable!
sent from my next gen N7

I hate to revive a dead thread, but I was wondering if people were still having problems. Once or twice during the day that I can see I will lose signal for a few seconds only to have it reconnect. Running 4.4.2 so the latest update did nothing to help the problem as far as I can see and I have messed with my APN settings. On AT&T. The Google thread seems to have a lot of different problems on the same thread, and it is a bit unclear if people are still having this problem. This is very annoying for such an otherwise spectacular phone. Thanks and sorry again for reviving the thread... :fingers-crossed:

gidgiddonihah said:
I hate to revive a dead thread, but I was wondering if people were still having problems. Once or twice during the day that I can see I will lose signal for a few seconds only to have it reconnect. Running 4.4.2 so the latest update did nothing to help the problem as far as I can see and I have messed with my APN settings. On AT&T. The Google thread seems to have a lot of different problems on the same thread, and it is a bit unclear if people are still having this problem. This is very annoying for such an otherwise spectacular phone. Thanks and sorry again for reviving the thread... :fingers-crossed:
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Actually, there have been several threads on the issues associated with this (emergency calls only, missed calls, no signal,etc.). Ongoing and unresolved for some.

wideasleep1 said:
Actually, there have been several threads on the issues associated with this (emergency calls only, missed calls, no signal,etc.). Ongoing and unresolved for some.
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Appreciate the speedy reply. Hope Google gets on this fast. I also have LTE connection issues which has plagued both this and my original device so I am pretty sure its a radio issue. The phone loves to stay on HSPA+ even when there is a decent LTE connection: it's last in the pack to connect to LTE and first to disconnect when compared to others on AT&T.

gidgiddonihah said:
Appreciate the speedy reply. Hope Google gets on this fast. I also have LTE connection issues which has plagued both this and my original device so I am pretty sure its a radio issue. The phone loves to stay on HSPA+ even when there is a decent LTE connection: it's last in the pack to connect to LTE and first to disconnect when compared to others on AT&T.
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My N4 with a combo radio sticks to LTE a tad better than my N5 with stock radio. Sadly, morrislee hasn't fiddled and combo'd N5 radios, and I'm not sure they've been tested and sussed out like the N4 radios. Citing the fact some with issues have flashed all the radios so far with minimal success means we wait for Qualcomm, after Google kicks them in the you know where.

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My N4 with a combo radio sticks to LTE a tad better than my N5 with stock radio. Sadly, morrislee hasn't fiddled and combo'd N5 radios, and I'm not sure they've been tested and sussed out like the N4 radios. Citing the fact some with issues have flashed all the radios so far with minimal success means we wait for Qualcomm, after Google kicks them in the you know where.
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Hopefully Google kicks hard and fast . Multiple times if needed. Thanks again for the speedy and enlightening replies. Much obliged.
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