[Q] OTA Updates on a Rooted Phone - General Questions and Answers

Can you still get OTA updates on a Rooted phone?

You can get notifications, but any updates attempted will fail, especially if you have a custom recovery
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Root should not be a problem, it is only to obtain root user privileges on the system.

goompas said:
Root should not be a problem, it is only to obtain root user privileges on the system.
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Updates tend to check that /system has been modified, if it has(ie rooted) then it will fail
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I believe it will fail to update if you are rooted, certainly you will no longer get OTA updates if you have a new ROM installed

I honestly think that it depends on the phone, the carrier, the rom, etc. Many times you can use a rootkeeper app to backup your SU and then unroot, and so long as you have not deleted apps, you can get the OTA. This is a good reason Titanium backup and freezing apps is so great. Unfreeze then, unroot and you are good.

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[Q] Can I lose root even if I don't update my ROM

I should phrase the question, "Can I lose root if I do not update with an HTC/TMO update?".
I walked through guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300) to root my Sensation and it worked with no issues. I had the root phone for several weeks and decided to try a couple new ROMs. I did my due diligence and did a full backup with Titanium and then a CM backup. The problem arose when I flashed in the Revolution HD ROM. Once installed, I could not get Titanium to work. It kept saying it could not get root permission. I checked SuperUser, and it was there, but would not prompt to allow root access for any of my apps. I restored back to my original ROM and again, I do not seem to have root. All my applications are there, SuperUser is set to prompt me when an app requests root, but none of the root apps will work anymore. I grabbed a root checking app off the market, and it says it cannot obtain root too. I checked fastboot and it still shows S-OFF. I've never had this issue with any of my other Android devices once I rooted them. I was able to get my root access back by following step 3 of the guide, but I'm curious how I lost root by flashing in another custom ROM. Any ideas?
You didn't lose root you lost root access. It happened with two of my nandroids from CWM. I just erased them and started over from a fresh rom install and everything was fine. It kinda suxs though lol when SU tells you it can't get access. There are a few if us that this happened too. Its been mentioned in yje Clockwork thread.

Will my tab modifications affect the ICS update?

Hi all,
I used Titanium Backup to remove bloatware apps from my rooted 6210. Will this modification affect the ICS update? will it give me an error message or will it just install these bloatware apps back? Thanks in advance!
PS I heard the update is coming in September...LOL
To be safe I would recommend that you reinstall all the apps you uninstalled. I mean, it should be ok, but I always like to be safe rather then sorry..
And September 2013 got it
vamp6x6x6x said:
To be safe I would recommend that you reinstall all the apps you uninstalled. I mean, it should be ok, but I always like to be safe rather then sorry..
And September 2013 got it
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Not this. When ICS comes along you'll want to do a complete wipe and start from scratch. The process of rooting should prevent OTA updates, so if you want the stock ICS you'll have to unroot first. I'll wait it out for someone to build rooted ICS builds.
Dunno if that will hold for the SGT+. Previous devices I've gotten on rooted devices just broke root. (TF101 comes to mind) Could be different for Sammy. But then we all did full backups before rooting....right?
I think that it will not matter what you have installed or uninstalled. M major updates like those will wipe everything and probably could not be done on OTA.
I would advice to do backup of your personal data only. If you restore a full backup of hc on ics you will got a bootloop.
Root should not prevent updates at all, but we will lose it. But probably we can use the same steps to take it back an the same update file.
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You'll have no problems updating through Kies but it will wipe everything. Not sure if an OTA will even be put out for those who bought it through a carrier or if everyone will have to update through Kies. I believe AT&T is forcing everyone to update their GSII to ICS through Kies. We will also most likely lose the ability to root until someone fixes it in ICS which shouldn't take too long.
jesusdiedforyourroms said:
Hi all,
I used Titanium Backup to remove bloatware apps from my rooted 6210. Will this modification affect the ICS update? will it give me an error message or will it just install these bloatware apps back? Thanks in advance!
PS I heard the update is coming in September...LOL
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based on my experience, it doesn't matter what bloatware you delete, it'll all be back with a vengeance in the update. Things related to your apps and data shouldn't be wiped, but you will lose root and have to wait for the talented folks here to figure out how to re-root.

Fix for CWM/OTA issues?

I've looked around a bit, and while I've seen a few threads from a while back of folks complaining about the issue, I was wondering if we had any sort of fix? Currently I am unable to install any OTAs on my phone, and it's getting annoying. The phone is constantly reminding me of the OTAs, but after installing, they fail when CWM kicks in. Removing ROM Manager didn't help. Do I have to do a factory wipe for this to work?
Do you want the OTA or to stay off it? To take the OTA Odin back to stock but make a backup first with CWM or titanium. Then after the update re-root and restore your apps.
Or freeze the SDM.APK in titanium backup to stop it from pestering you and stay off the OTA track for good. Which is what I'd recommend. You don't need OTA on a Samsung. Unlike Motorola devices we don't need the kernel updates from official ota. We can rip those out and just install the kernel by itself. So using OTA is pointless unless you want verizon garbage apps and a locked bootloader. Cause you know when JB drops they will remove the ability to use the aboot and block us from unlocking most likely.
TLR
If you want stock. Odin. If you want to stay custom freeze SDM or remove it
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Keeping Root After 4.1.2 Update With OTA Root Keeper?

As title says - who has been successful keeping root with Voodoo?
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Never mind... Confirmed it myself
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Yeah worked for me too
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Upgrading to 4.1.2 and keeping root worked for me as well but has been causing me issues with 4G data connection. When I first upgraded and kept root my phone would only pick up 3G. I went to Verizon and had give me a new SIM card which fixed my issue and brought my 4G back but now I have the issue where I lose 4G during phone calls. This issue did not occur before 4.1.1.
Didn't work for me, went to click restore root and it there wasn't any backup but I know there was cause I created the backup just before restoring the stock recovery. Now I have no root and it won't let me downgrade.
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Didn't work for me, went to click restore root and it there wasn't any backup but I know there was cause I created the backup just before restoring the stock recovery. Now I have no root and it won't let me downgrade.
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did you forget to do the temp unroot before taking the update? that the common mistake most are making.
even me, thanxxx
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I am running 4.1.1 on my rooted DROID RAZR MAXX HD and want to take the 4.1.2 OTA update.
I use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper Temp Un-Root which successfully makes my device unrooted. However, once I reboot, the phone is rooted again. I thought Voodoo would turn off root until I explicitly go back and Restore Root.
Am I wrong? Is Voodoo supposed to turn off root only until the phone restarts? If so, can I use Voodoo to temporarily un-root, and then immediately install the OTA 4.1.2 update without restarting my phone?
Or, is something wrong with my Voodoo installation since the temp un-root does not survive a restart?

Success keeping root w/VooDoo with latest OTA

I've been deferring the latest OTA (from end of June) waiting to see on here if people were able to keep root via VooDoo RootKeeper method. But alas I have not seen any post anywhere that specifically states they've done it so finally posting.
I'm all stock, just rooted w/SU. Still have all the bloatware crap so shouldn't have any problems updating - just looking for confirmation that I can use VooDoo and get root back after the update with no problem. If anyone has tried it and can share your success/failure I'd appreciate it.
I kept root with su survival mode. Straight up did the ota.
Surge1223
OTA Rootkeeper worked for me. I was also stock, rooted, with all the bloat intact. Just backup root, temp unroot, take the update, then restore root. Been a couple weeks and I've had zero issues.
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