I've looked around a bit, and while I've seen a few threads from a while back of folks complaining about the issue, I was wondering if we had any sort of fix? Currently I am unable to install any OTAs on my phone, and it's getting annoying. The phone is constantly reminding me of the OTAs, but after installing, they fail when CWM kicks in. Removing ROM Manager didn't help. Do I have to do a factory wipe for this to work?
Do you want the OTA or to stay off it? To take the OTA Odin back to stock but make a backup first with CWM or titanium. Then after the update re-root and restore your apps.
Or freeze the SDM.APK in titanium backup to stop it from pestering you and stay off the OTA track for good. Which is what I'd recommend. You don't need OTA on a Samsung. Unlike Motorola devices we don't need the kernel updates from official ota. We can rip those out and just install the kernel by itself. So using OTA is pointless unless you want verizon garbage apps and a locked bootloader. Cause you know when JB drops they will remove the ability to use the aboot and block us from unlocking most likely.
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If you want stock. Odin. If you want to stay custom freeze SDM or remove it
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just use the one click root tool by kennethpenn, work perfectly thanks. use titanium back to do a backup of all the app and system then took out all the att bloatware. i have few questions at this point.
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will i be able to get OTA updates from att? what will happen to all the bloatware that i deleted? would they appear again?
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what happens if i do a factory reset on the phone? would i brick the phone? under normal condition that will erase all apps i installed and return it to factory setting, that means all the att bloatware will be back? will i lost root?
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what other things i can do after i root the phone at this point?
thank you for your help
no one can help me with those questions??? anyone???
i am sure a lot of people have the same question.
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will i be able to get OTA updates from att? what will happen to all the bloatware that i deleted? would they appear again?
I'm not 100% sure on this, but as long as you're running an actual AT&T ROM (not an Asian or Rogers ROM), you'll be notified of the OTA's. Now, if you're not using the stock Recovery image (that is, if you've installed CWM Recovery), you won't be able to apply the update. OTA updates get applied via the stock Recovery image.
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what happens if i do a factory reset on the phone? would i brick the phone? under normal condition that will erase all apps i installed and return it to factory setting, that means all the att bloatware will be back? will i lost root?
If you do a factory reset from CWM or within the phone's UI, you're fine. Root will remain in place, and you won't brick it. It just clears the user data from the phone, and should leave "sdcard" intact. However, I'm not 100% sure what happens if you do a factory reset from the bootloader. So just don't do it that way, unless someone else can confirm that it's okay.
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what other things i can do after i root the phone at this point?
You ca use apps like AutoKiller to change your memory management, for one. That's about all I'm doing with root right now. If we ever get custom kernels, you'll be able to overclock your CPU. If you search the Play Store for "root," you'd doubtlessly find some other root apps that you may be interested in.
Hope this helps!
Don't ever ever ever install an OTA on any rooted Android device. At the least, it won't work anyway, or you will lose root. At the worst, you will be stuck in a bootloop. Updated ROMs (based on the OTA's, but rooted, and safe to flash) usually get posted in Development soon after the OTA's go out. That is what you want to install.
craig0r said:
However, I'm not 100% sure what happens if you do a factory reset from the bootloader. So just don't do it that way, unless someone else can confirm that it's okay.
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I can confirm that it's OK. My phone was rooted and stuck in a boot loop. I did a factory reset. It was reset and still rooted after the fact. So you can do it.
thank you all
redpoint73 said:
Don't ever ever ever install an OTA on any rooted Android device. At the least, it won't work anyway, or you will lose root. At the worst, you will be stuck in a bootloop. Updated ROMs (based on the OTA's, but rooted, and safe to flash) usually get posted in Development soon after the OTA's go out. That is what you want to install.
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Just to clarify, pre-rooted versions of the official ROMs (which often get posted on XDA, as I mentioned) may need unlocked bootloader to install, so this will possibly not be an option for a while. Although there may be alternate safe ways to update (but not OTA). For instance, a leaked 1.83 firmware version is already available as an RUU in the Development subforum. Apparently, its okay to install via RUU, then re-root.
In general, the safe thing to do is to read up on here when updates are released, and see if there is a safe way to update on a rooted phone.
Hi all,
I used Titanium Backup to remove bloatware apps from my rooted 6210. Will this modification affect the ICS update? will it give me an error message or will it just install these bloatware apps back? Thanks in advance!
PS I heard the update is coming in September...LOL
To be safe I would recommend that you reinstall all the apps you uninstalled. I mean, it should be ok, but I always like to be safe rather then sorry..
And September 2013 got it
vamp6x6x6x said:
To be safe I would recommend that you reinstall all the apps you uninstalled. I mean, it should be ok, but I always like to be safe rather then sorry..
And September 2013 got it
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Not this. When ICS comes along you'll want to do a complete wipe and start from scratch. The process of rooting should prevent OTA updates, so if you want the stock ICS you'll have to unroot first. I'll wait it out for someone to build rooted ICS builds.
Dunno if that will hold for the SGT+. Previous devices I've gotten on rooted devices just broke root. (TF101 comes to mind) Could be different for Sammy. But then we all did full backups before rooting....right?
I think that it will not matter what you have installed or uninstalled. M major updates like those will wipe everything and probably could not be done on OTA.
I would advice to do backup of your personal data only. If you restore a full backup of hc on ics you will got a bootloop.
Root should not prevent updates at all, but we will lose it. But probably we can use the same steps to take it back an the same update file.
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You'll have no problems updating through Kies but it will wipe everything. Not sure if an OTA will even be put out for those who bought it through a carrier or if everyone will have to update through Kies. I believe AT&T is forcing everyone to update their GSII to ICS through Kies. We will also most likely lose the ability to root until someone fixes it in ICS which shouldn't take too long.
jesusdiedforyourroms said:
Hi all,
I used Titanium Backup to remove bloatware apps from my rooted 6210. Will this modification affect the ICS update? will it give me an error message or will it just install these bloatware apps back? Thanks in advance!
PS I heard the update is coming in September...LOL
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based on my experience, it doesn't matter what bloatware you delete, it'll all be back with a vengeance in the update. Things related to your apps and data shouldn't be wiped, but you will lose root and have to wait for the talented folks here to figure out how to re-root.
I'm rooted/stock and have been deferring OTA updates for a looooong time. last time I took an update it screwed thing sup badly and I had to wipe my phone and start clean so I've been avoiding the update. I figured it's time but the install fails every time. I'm on 4.1.2 VRBMF1. Is it the fact that I'm rooted causing the trouble? Can I "un-root" to take the update?
If you have removed system apps or applied framework changes (like a mod) then the OTA could fail cuz of that. It could even be from your custom recovery. There should be an error code that gets saved in /cache or it should give you a reason why it fails as it is attempting to apply the update. Have you done any permanent changes similar to what I outlined?
If you have no issues with wiping the entire phone, then you could use Odin (Windows only program) to apply the 4.3 update. Now, I must say that you will not have any option to use AOSP roms or custom kernels once on 4.3. If this matters to you, then I can help you get rid of the ota notification.
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I haven't changed anything aside from freezing a bunch of apps with Titanium Backup. I haven't even installed a custom recovery. When **** got so screwed up from the last OTA I started fresh and rooted, intending to install CWM but never got around to it. So I'm rooted and nothing else. I've used Odin before to start fresh and I have no trouble with doing that again except that I hate having to set all of my screens, widgets, and folders up again. The couple times I've used a backup recovery they didn't recover those settings. I have all of my apps sorted into folders and it would be a huge PITA to do that again. I figure there has to be a way to backup and recover the layouts of the home screens. I have MyBackup Pro and can install CMW.
My phone has become very laggy over the past few months, which is why I decided to take the OTA hoping it would clean some things up. Honestly, I lost interest in doing all kinds of customization. I just want the phone to work smoothly again. If stock 4.3 with some crap frozen will do that then that's all I need. Is there a 4.4 version that runs without issues on the GS3?
Don't take the OTA, just go here and install this stock rooted version of the 4.3 OTA. Gives you everything you want and keeps your options open.
4.3 is much better than 4.12 and there is no stable 4.4 for the S3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625483
I'll go that route.
Any advice for backing up and restoring my apps folders? I just realized that the apps pages are not included if I backup/restore home screens with MyBackup Pro. I've sorted my apps into a dozen different folders on the apps pages and really don't want to do that from scratch again.
DigitalMD said:
Don't take the OTA, just go here and install this stock rooted version of the 4.3 OTA. Gives you everything you want and keeps your options open.
4.3 is much better than 4.12 and there is no stable 4.4 for the S3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625483
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Not quite sure how I should proceed to undo some of the stuff I've done, I should have froze some system apps, but I deleted them, how should I go about upgrading to the latest OTA from 5.0.2?
Well the easiest thing would to be to flash a stock rom then upgrade, if you don't care about root.
Easiest method would to use Samsung Smart Switch, it will back up your data flash new firmware, doesn't matter if you deleted things or not, and then restore your data.
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Not quite sure how I should proceed to undo some of the stuff I've done, I should have froze some system apps, but I deleted them, how should I go about upgrading to the latest OTA from 5.0.2?
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you do realize once you go to latest OTA you lose root AND your deleted system apps will re-install.
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you do realize once you go to latest OTA you lose root AND your deleted system apps will re-install.
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I do realize that, but I have been debating whether I should or not, whether that update is significant enough or not, what do you guys think?
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I do realize that, but I have been debating whether I should or not, whether that update is significant enough or not, what do you guys think?
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all depends on what you can't live without.
For me ability to uninstall system apps, and run 3minit battery mod.
some others here mentioned ad blocker, which i also like, but it tends to block too much sometimes, right now I have a dozen+ websites that do not work with ad blocker on.
if losing root takes away the ability to __________, it is not worth it.
KB2007 Tmob 8T+5G
Rooted unlocked all has been well.
For the last couple of OTA I have uninstalled Magisk to restore the boot partitions and taken OTA without issue
Root once more all is well
With this latest OTA11.0.8.10.KB09CB I uninstalled Magisk
but fail on the OTA
Couldn't update installation problems
Fails immediately I don't believe it performs a download
Any thoughts?
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Deleting what I considered bloatware(Native Oneplus apps) was the cause of the issue.
My solution was to perform a full restore using MSM recovery tool.
No issues taking OTA thereafter
Exactly the same problem, I wonder if it's related to the fact that it's rooted or it's universal
Well i unrooted and could not take teh update.
im thinking of switching to another regional ROM to get updates and apply them myself
When you were rooted did you uninstall some bloatware (like Chrome, community app etc...)?
I just completed a restore via the MSM tool.
Most awesome app.
Looking at all the bloatware I am quite sure I removed apps.
Which is a good reason to be the cause of the issues.