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4G "Idle" ????

Does anyone else see their 4G connection go to idle after a while ?
If I turn on 4G, after not very long at all, my icon goes to one with 3 dots, and when I check my 4G network settings, it says 4G Networks --> Sprint --> Idle.
I have no connection whatsoever to the internet, and therefore have no push gmail/fb/twitter etc.
This does not happen on 3G/Wifi.
this can't be normal right ?

That is normal. Idle for 4g is the same as your send and receive arrow animation on 3g not doing anything. It is connected but there is nothing to send or receive, so it is "idle". I've stay connected to irc for hours on end with 4g and it "idled" constantly.
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Hmm. I'm not sure I agree.
When my connection is on idle, I get no email or anything.
If I go to wifi or 3G, it instantly pushes through emails.
I tested this by sending myself an email when it was idle. It didnt come through. Turn off 4G, and go to 3G, and it goes through.

This may actually not work correctly and a request from gmail push system does not wake the 4G WiMax connection properly. It works ok when the phone is requesting internet but not the other way around. I think they'll need to fix that eventually with a radio update.
Call and report. That's the only way they'll do it.

obsanity said:
This may actually not work correctly and a request from gmail push system does not wake the 4G WiMax connection properly. It works ok when the phone is requesting internet but not the other way around. I think they'll need to fix that eventually with a radio update.
Call and report. That's the only way they'll do it.
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When you say "call and report" what do you mean by that ?

grifforama said:
Hmm. I'm not sure I agree.
When my connection is on idle, I get no email or anything.
If I go to wifi or 3G, it instantly pushes through emails.
I tested this by sending myself an email when it was idle. It didnt come through. Turn off 4G, and go to 3G, and it goes through.
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Its spose to kick back on per internet push/send...what rom u on?
Mine works great on opensoju 0.2.6
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grifforama said:
When you say "call and report" what do you mean by that ?
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Call Sprint and report it. But before you do that let's find out if its not software you got on it.
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styckx said:
That is normal. Idle for 4g is the same as your send and receive arrow animation on 3g not doing anything. It is connected but there is nothing to send or receive, so it is "idle". I've stay connected to irc for hours on end with 4g and it "idled" constantly.
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+2 What this guy said.
Everything works the same for me on whether on 3G, 4G or WiFi. Stock, rooted with various apps i dont want, removed.

snandlal said:
Its spose to kick back on per internet push/send...what rom u on?
Mine works great on opensoju 0.2.6
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Was on KushDeck. Looks like I'm getting the same thing on CM7 as well.
Sent an email from my work email to my Gmail account. My Chrome browser got it almost immediately, and my phone is sitting on idle with nothing.
UPDATE.
6 minutes and counting. Nothing on my phone. Still on idle.
Is it something to do with my settings perhaps ? It seems to be fine on 3G ?

OK, I'm getting somewhere.
And I can sort of see where the issue is, I think.
When I'm on 3G, my phone signal is green, and my 3G bars are aklso green (connected to Google)
Push works when I'm like this.
When I'm on 4G, my phone signal is white (not connected to Google) therefore there is no push signal..
I'm tested this thoroughly this morning and I'm convinced this is the case.
This happens on all my ROMS (CM7/Kushdeck and Soju)
I'm going to call SPrint.

grifforama said:
OK, I'm getting somewhere.
And I can sort of see where the issue is, I think.
When I'm on 3G, my phone signal is green, and my 3G bars are aklso green (connected to Google)
Push works when I'm like this.
When I'm on 4G, my phone signal is white (not connected to Google) therefore there is no push signal..
I'm tested this thoroughly this morning and I'm convinced this is the case.
This happens on all my ROMS (CM7/Kushdeck and Soju)
I'm going to call SPrint.
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Yeah. That is correct. It should be green. It may be their tower having issues also but it probably is a good idea yo call sprint.
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4g is in idle mode so no internet until you use it. IMO 4G sucks!

dmora01 said:
4g is in idle mode so no internet until you use it. IMO 4G sucks!
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Yeah. That is pathetic. If I'm on 4G, and idle, none of my Google talk messages will get sent. No emails will be pushed.
What is the point of 4G then ? It seems like a ridiculous setup?
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I don't have that issue. I get exchange and gmail notifications on WiMax idle.
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Award Tour said:
I don't have that issue. I get exchange and gmail notifications on WiMax idle.
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Can I ask what ROM and Kernel you are using ?

Award Tour said:
I don't have that issue. I get exchange and gmail notifications on WiMax idle.
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Are you absolutely sure ?
Can you test it by letting your phone go to idle and sending yourself an email ?
Sprint are clueless here, and keep telling me New York doesn't have strong signal, and that's why it goes idle.

[Q] Wifi and 4g On At The Same Time Normal?

Just picked up my htc sensation 4g last night. My old phone was a galaxy, and when I got in range of wifi, the 4g would turn off. Sometimes on the sensation it stays on, or comes on from time to time while in range of wifi.. Is this normal, if not, is there a way to fix it?

I think this normal due to the wifi issue it could be choosing the best connection the only way u will have true control is by turning the 4g off, etc
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How do you turn 4g off?

Just bring down the notifications and then hit the quick settings tab then push the mobile toggle.. Make sure the wifi is still on
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Know this post is a little dated, just wondering if you are still having the issue.
I have a Sensation and 4G is never on when I'm connected to wifi.... NEVER. So if its still happening I really would really check into that.

RaViCa said:
Know this post is a little dated, just wondering if you are still having the issue.
I have a Sensation and 4G is never on when I'm connected to wifi.... NEVER. So if its still happening I really would really check into that.
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I stand corrected. I just noticed that my Sensation that both the 4G and wifi icon was displayed at the same time.
It happenned when after I openned the MyAccount app. This app does not work over wifi so phone automatically switched on the 4G radio in order for the app to work. Once you leave the app it remains running in the background which causes both icons to remain displayed.
So if you use this app (or maybe any other app that does not work over wifi) this could be the cause for both icons to be on.
What I don't know is if it is actually using both wifi and 4g at the same time or does it turn the 4G completely off until the app requiring it is exited.

Bump.
I have the same issue. I use wifi exclusively at home, but sometimes seemingly at random I see a cell connection icon in the notification bar as well. Today it's been on for several hours. I have not used My Account in weeks. When I look in Task Manager no apps are running.
I assume there's some app that "needs" to connect via a cell tower, but don't know how to identify it. Can this be blocked, and if so would that just cause some other issue? Seems like a really unnecessary battery drain, but not a huge problem far as I can tell, just odd.

samnada said:
Bump.
I have the same issue. I use wifi exclusively at home, but sometimes seemingly at random I see a cell connection icon in the notification bar as well. Today it's been on for several hours. I have not used My Account in weeks. When I look in Task Manager no apps are running.
I assume there's some app that "needs" to connect via a cell tower, but don't know how to identify it. Can this be blocked, and if so would that just cause some other issue? Seems like a really unnecessary battery drain, but not a huge problem far as I can tell, just odd.
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Yeah, I just had it happen to me again a few days ago but this time it was while using the Market. I wanted to purchase an app and noticed that now there is an option of adding it to your mobile carriers bill instead of a credit card so I opted to added to to my bill. Well I am assuming so that t-mobile needed a direct connection with my phone for billing so of course the 4G icon all of a sudden pops on.
In short I am saying I am sure it happens when certain apps are running that need cellular data vs WiFi. Don't know if you can block it but if you do those apps will not perform correctly. Also there are many other things running other than just what the stock task manager shows you.

RaViCa said:
Yeah, I just had it happen to me again a few days ago but this time it was while using the Market. I wanted to purchase an app and noticed that now there is an option of adding it to your mobile carriers bill instead of a credit card so I opted to added to to my bill. Well I am assuming so that t-mobile needed a direct connection with my phone for billing so of course the 4G icon all of a sudden pops on.
In short I am saying I am sure it happens when certain apps are running that need cellular data vs WiFi. Don't know if you can block it but if you do those apps will not perform correctly. Also there are many other things running other than just what the stock task manager shows you.
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I understand some apps apparently need a cell connection for some reason, perhaps it's location tracking, but mine's been connected for 4 hours straight today. Hard to imagine there's that much data being transferred on a 4G connection. Really seems like something is hung. Just tried putting my phone is airplane mode, then back to regular mode. When I turned it back on the 4G icon appeared for a few seconds then went off and is staying off. So looks like a force interrupt unstuck whatever it was.

OTA Update did not fix WIFI calling.

I just got the update today. According to the changleog it was supposed to fix WIFI calling. However I saw absolutely no difference. WIFI calling still crackles and chops all the time and it has unusable echo with the speakerphone on.
On top of that now Fligh mode always shows "Turning off..." when I have the WIFI turned on. I did a factory reset, still no change in either one of these issues.
What is your experience with the new software?

I don't have the static that I previously had and the delay doesn't seem to be as bad, however calls aren't consistently coming through to my phone (over wifi calling) since I did the update.

I also found that Wifi Calling got worse with the update. A lot of people saying their calls are going straight to my voicemail, and when I try to dial out I have to try a few times before the call actually connects. Also, the crackle and pop noise is still present as it was before the update too. I hope more people complain about this issue so they can patch it sooner!

I'm also having the same issue and I'm having to rely on that service more because for some reason I don't have that great of coverage in my area anymore. Went from having great 4g at my house to being able to barely pick up 2g
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Yeah same here with the problems. I get the crackling and popping now. I actually think it started since the update. The other weird problem is my voicemail icon does not go away even after clearing all the voicemails. Not sure if this is because I pay for the VM to text option? Oh and lastly when people call, it shows up as unknown a lot. Dunno WTF!

Apexsilverevo said:
Yeah same here with the problems. I get the crackling and popping now. I actually think it started since the update. The other weird problem is my voicemail icon does not go away even after clearing all the voicemails. Not sure if this is because I pay for the VM to text option? Oh and lastly when people call, it shows up as unknown a lot. Dunno WTF!
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Going to settings option then call option there's an option to clear voicemail notifications. I just got the phone today and had to do that to clear. I haven't tested calls over WiFi I'm going to give it a try in the morning I hope it doesn't disappoint but it seems everyone is having issues.
Edit: I just gave WiFi calling a little test by calling a 1800 porn number and unfortunately I do hear some cracking or popping every couple of seconds.
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I get both of these issues as well.

I don't think you're going to get cell quality with WiFi calling. I had issues with the g2x as well.
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Yeah I did to with the g2x as well. I figured it would have been fixed by now. Kind of annoying when they say they are going to fix a problem but the problem is still there.
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I here ya! It's still usable for me though
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Im on my third htc one s same problem on all of them and during normal calls there is static on all 3 of them im just gonna make them give me a galaxy s3 the hell with htc is was there last chance no one else has bad call quality?

Call quality over cell is phenomenal, no issues for me or my wife.
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barmanham said:
Im on my third htc one s same problem on all of them and during normal calls there is static on all 3 of them im just gonna make them give me a galaxy s3 the hell with htc is was there last chance no one else has bad call quality?
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OK I'll bite...
A few things before I give you an answer here so answer these honestly ok...
1. What router do you have and what frequency is it set for and how long have you had it.
2. What's your providers bandwidth that your using? Is it DSL, broadband, T1....
3. What security are you using on your router when you connect to it?
I'll check back in the morning and give you an honest answer....
EDIT: people are expecting 4G quality from the internet and you'll NEVER get cell quality even with the best router running a T1 connection dedicated to just wifi calling, this is a free service for those who have minute plans instead of paying for unlimited service. There are ways to clean up the quality of these connections if your willing to have the patience to reconfigure your router a little and how good your ISP is and working with the limitations if there are any.

Mine is usable as well, just the popping noise is quite a nuisance.
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No Calls on Wifi

Hey guys.....
I have an issue with a phone that maybe you all can help with.
This is my second phone doing the same thing the last one was doing.
(yes I've searched)
So occasionally while connected to wifi I dont receive any calls, texts, or emails until I pick up and use my phone for something.
Just now when I picked up my phone to check the weather at 6:30pm and I got 4 text messages, 1 VM and 2 emails all ranging back to around the last time I used my phone. (5:45ish)
This is really irritating as I have missed some important calls lately and it really pisses off my wife...lol...she assumes I'm gaming and ignoring her.
I remember reading somewhere that this phone has issues with going to sleep and Smart Sync.
Specs:
ATT
HTC One XL
ViperXL 2.4.1 (it does this on the stock rom as well)
ViperXL kernel
Thanks for any and all help!!!

I seem to have had similar issues except it was doing it off WiFi. They way I started noticing it was I set my weather to update every hour and I would find it would be 4 hours ago last udate. I also noticed texts coming out of order and calls going to vmail without ringing. I played around flashing different radios ,roms and even changed sim card multiple times. I came to the obvious conclusion that it was actually att issue. I live in a rural area where I get H+ but no LTE. I suspect that the tower cell fills up then puts active calls and data priority. I had atrix before my hox and it did same thing. Its really annoying. So I find myself rebooting phone and it solves issue at least for couple hours.
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theinfamousdrew said:
Hey guys.....
I have an issue with a phone that maybe you all can help with.
This is my second phone doing the same thing the last one was doing.
(yes I've searched)
So occasionally while connected to wifi I dont receive any calls, texts, or emails until I pick up and use my phone for something.
Just now when I picked up my phone to check the weather at 6:30pm and I got 4 text messages, 1 VM and 2 emails all ranging back to around the last time I used my phone. (5:45ish)
This is really irritating as I have missed some important calls lately and it really pisses off my wife...lol...she assumes I'm gaming and ignoring her.
I remember reading somewhere that this phone has issues with going to sleep and Smart Sync.
Specs:
ATT
HTC One XL
ViperXL 2.4.1 (it does this on the stock rom as well)
ViperXL kernel
Thanks for any and all help!!!
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Im having the same issues. Started a thread about a month ago. Im on my second phone as well. Had AT&T reset something on their end, did an RUU, factory reset, wiped caches and data...nothing. I really believe it's an AT&T issue.

yungskeeme said:
Im having the same issues. Started a thread about a month ago. Im on my second phone as well. Had AT&T reset something on their end, did an RUU, factory reset, wiped caches and data...nothing. I really believe it's an AT&T issue.
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I don't think it's an issue with Att.
I just got a the email for this, it is an hour and a half late. I am connected to Wi-Fi and my phone is set to "smart sync".
If this was an ATT issue then why didn't I get my email?
The phone receiving emails while on Wi-Fi has nothing to do with ATT.

theinfamousdrew said:
I don't think it's an issue with Att.
I just got a the email for this, it is an hour and a half late. I am connected to Wi-Fi and my phone is set to "smart sync".
If this was an ATT issue then why didn't I get my email?
The phone receiving emails while on Wi-Fi has nothing to do with ATT.
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I was referring more to the calls and text
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I also have the same problem. On Christmas I sent out a mass text to people and never got any responses. Then about 12hrs after I sent a message to someone else and got 100+ texts and 3 vms. It was ridiculous. I'm on ATT and running Nocturnal Dirty ROM. But it also did it on other ROMs. I would love to know what causes this problem and how to fix it...

Data Randomly dropping but signal fine

This is driving me nuts so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears
My Nexus 5 keeps dropping data. The Signal bar will still display full with H, but nothing will connect. If I'm running a ping it'll just stop and then eventually kick back in with 10000ms or something - Anything else i'm trying to do just plain won't connect. Could understand if I was losing signal but I don't seem to be.
Haven't had a chance to try the sim in my old phone yet to find out whether it's the network or the phone - was just wondering if anyone had experienced anything similar? :S
Ta.

Reoryn said:
This is driving me nuts so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears
My Nexus 5 keeps dropping data. The Signal bar will still display full with H, but nothing will connect. If I'm running a ping it'll just stop and then eventually kick back in with 10000ms or something - Anything else i'm trying to do just plain won't connect. Could understand if I was losing signal but I don't seem to be.
Haven't had a chance to try the sim in my old phone yet to find out whether it's the network or the phone - was just wondering if anyone had experienced anything similar? :S
Ta.
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happening to me with sprint 3g on the unofficial cm 10.2. have to toggle airplane mode, not sure if its a CM thing or a sprint thing since i literally flashed CM the next day i got it lol

still happens
a few cm11 updates and almost a month later its still happening

I just started experiencing this same thing in the last week. Real frustrating part of it (beyond the obvious) is that there is no way to tell this is happening unless you are actively using the network at the moment the signal is lost. So if the phone is in your pocket and not being used, you'll really have no way of knowing whether you are missing important phone calls/text messages simply by looking at the display of the phone. Each time I only notice when I am trying to load a web page and it says I'm not connected to the internet (even though it shows that I have a strong LTE connection). Talked to both Google and T-Mobile about this and both basically pointed their fingers at the other. I'm pretty convinced that the problem is on Google's/LG's end though.
Getting my third RMA in the mail next week. Will likely take them up on their refund offer if this continues. Believe it or not, the intermittent loss of data isn't even the reason I set up the initial RMA (or the reason I sent back the first two RMA's I received).

I have this on both Three and GiffGaff in the UK. I also had this problem on my old Galaxy S2, so maybe it's an android problem?
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okmijnlp said:
I have this on both Three and GiffGaff in the UK. I also had this problem on my old Galaxy S2, so maybe it's an android problem?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-here-is-what-you-should-expect-to-see-fixed/
Fix for frequent data connection dropouts.