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MT4G to be launched in Canada as HTC Emerald /w Android 2.3 + HTC Sense

http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?

Taknarosh said:
http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?
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You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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epsix said:
You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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Yeah, hopefully this allows for a bug-free Gingerbread/Sense ROM on our mt4g's.

I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).

TeeJay3800 said:
I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).
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Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!

smooth3d said:
Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!
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Yes I know, that's why in my second paragraph I express my happiness about that development.

i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.

darinmc said:
i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.
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If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!

2.3 is already scheduled for Q2
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I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Taknarosh said:
If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!
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Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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epsix said:
Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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Good point, yeah all you need is the kernel. Point is it will be out before the update is pushed to T-Mo users.

theres a new ROM now that has the 2.3 update .

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/05/11/a...ail-at-mobilicity-for-499-99-launch-imminent/
They'll be calling it the HTC "Panache".
I noticed the Genius button is gone, back to a plain old search button.
I hope they don't lock down this variant as stringently as the Incredible S. I wonder if there's any hardware differences that'd make it incompatible with a RUU from the MT4G?
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I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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AndrewAD3 said:
I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.

Ace42 said:
Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.
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Sense has to be the most streamlined custom UI out there.

eliasadrian said:
I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Aosp is quite a bit faster and leaner. Phone runs well on stock sense but I've been on cm7 for 5 months and I'm not looking back.
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HTC Panache Rom
You can install this rom from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079091
Is the Stock version of HTC Panache / HTC Emerald of Canada.
Work Great!
If you want to install the Royal Panache with a few mods ...
Install from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074783

Android 4.0

Soooooo, ever since the release of the nexus galaxy sporting the new adroid 4.0, i wondered, will we get the update, and if not, is there a way to replicate the look of the deivice theme wise,i love the way it looks!

HTC has not confirmed nor denied the Inspire will be getting ICS. I'd bet not, and if we do it will take a LONG time, or one of the devs here will port it.
In the mean time, if you head over to the Android Development and Hacking section, and check out the Android Themes sub-forum there are a lot of different launchers and themes with ICS flavoring.

nooomoto said:
HTC has not confirmed nor denied the Inspire will be getting ICS. I'd bet not, and if we do it will take a LONG time, or one of the devs here will port it.
In the mean time, if you head over to the Android Development and Hacking section, and check out the Android Themes sub-forum there are a lot of different launchers and themes with ICS flavoring.
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I agree with him on the themes portion. There are MANY themes that are ICS, and many of them work well, and look VERY smooth.
Concerning ICS and the HTC Inspire. Looking at the specifications of the Galaxy Nexus, the Inspire has the internal components that can handle ICS. The processor for the Inspire is faster than the Galaxy, and so on. The only difference between the two is that the Inspire has dedicated soft keys on the home screen, whereas the Galaxy Nexus will have the home screen buttons as part of ICS itself.
Also, after talking to HTC, they're currently looking into how they can roll out ICS updates for as many phones as possible. I also read somewhere that most of, if not all, 2.3 phones WILL receive the update. Until then, continue looking at the forums and wait until a recognized developer ports to Inspire. Hope this helps!

HTC_Phone said:
The processor for the Inspire is faster than the Galaxy,
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Not sure where you got your information from but this isn't even close to be correct.
But, I'm sure we will see ICS on the Inspire fairly soon after Google releases the source. Whether its from the CM team or a different dev.
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HTC_Phone said:
I agree with him on the themes portion. There are MANY themes that are ICS, and many of them work well, and look VERY smooth.
Concerning ICS and the HTC Inspire. Looking at the specifications of the Galaxy Nexus, the Inspire has the internal components that can handle ICS. The processor for the Inspire is faster than the Galaxy, and so on. The only difference between the two is that the Inspire has dedicated soft keys on the home screen, whereas the Galaxy Nexus will have the home screen buttons as part of ICS itself.
Also, after talking to HTC, they're currently looking into how they can roll out ICS updates for as many phones as possible. I also read somewhere that most of, if not all, 2.3 phones WILL receive the update. Until then, continue looking at the forums and wait until a recognized developer ports to Inspire. Hope this helps!
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I wish all we had to worry abut was when HTC was gonna release it but we have to wait for ATT as it will be them that finally releases an official release for our phones. It may not happen and we will have to use a port from the DHD which only has to wait for the HTC

thank yoiu alll! and i didnt know we could go to the general android theme section and use themes from there lol, i thought we had to use the themes in our designated section only

ThroughHymn said:
Soooooo, ever since the release of the nexus galaxy sporting the new adroid 4.0, i wondered, will we get the update, and if not, is there a way to replicate the look of the deivice theme wise,i love the way it looks!
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nope no update for the inspire (or dhd)
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content
theme away..

That's a bummer. I've got 2 years before I can upgrade again. Its going to be a long wait.

Well they're already working on a port for the dhd, but I've heard that it doesn't work on the inspire but there's still a very good chance that we'll get sometime in the near future.
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ultradie said:
Well they're already working on a port for the dhd, but I've heard that it doesn't work on the inspire but there's still a very good chance that we'll get sometime in the near future.
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Where did you see this? I'd like to keep tabs on it.
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wydra91 said:
Where did you see this? I'd like to keep tabs on it.
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The desire HD forum
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Who cares about official support? CM9 will be out as soon as the source hits and we'll all have it.

Elbob10s said:
Who cares about official support? CM9 will be out as soon as the source hits and we'll all have it.
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I do lol there are issues with cm roms that prevent me from using it as a daily. But if we don't get it then ill just have to wait lol

Biggest problem with CM Roms is battery. Only thing I miss about sense Roms is not having to charge halfway through the day.
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mindmajick said:
Biggest problem with CM Roms is battery. Only thing I miss about sense Roms is not having to charge halfway through the day.
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Ok hmm thats odd as CM based roms do seem to have better battery then sense roms. I can get through a full day of normal use without charging.

Same here. Get a good day with CM9
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trell959 said:
Same here. Get a good day with CM9
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Do you mean cm7
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No he means 9 he is running the ics beta
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I have MUCH better battery on miui or CM than ever had on a Sense rom!
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[Q] we ever getting ICS

Is te HTC Inspire gettin ICS?
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As of right now, the Inspire is supposed to get ICS, but it is still up for debate. I bet there will be ICS ports though, so we will get it one way or another
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I thought HTC denied the Inspire would get ICS

Unless they denied it within the last week, it is still floating in limbo. Some say the HTC Ace and Stallion,which are the code names for DHD and Inspire, should receive ICS
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Even if the inspire doesn't get an official update to ICS there will be a custom rom

I don't think there will ever be an official release. We may get a newer gingerbread upgrade since the last on bites, but development for the inspire leaves us with better roms than stock anyway. I bet there will be a better more stable release through xda before ics ever hits officially for the inspire, but I don't think it ever will. I emailed HTC and asked if we would be getting ics or any other upgrades and they said they are working to make the experience better for the inspire but do not have anything in the works currently. This lead me to beleive they are long past worrying about the inspire. We will probably not even get a better gingerbread build imo.

HTC already released the list of devices that are getting ICS, Inspire4g/desire hd not in it.
Sorry.

If it doesn't we will still get it with ports from other devices... and of course cyanogen so no worries man
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I'm sure there will be a couple custom ICS ROMs on here.
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mateusm said:
HTC already released the list of devices that are getting ICS, Inspire4g/desire hd not in it.
Sorry.
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It wasn't a complete list. It was like these are the phones are definitely getting ics. The HTC desire had just got gb earlier this years when HTC clearly said it wouldn't. So don't count our phone out.
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houstonsveryown said:
It wasn't a complete list. It was like these are the phones are definitely getting ics. The HTC desire had just got gb earlier this years when HTC clearly said it wouldn't. So don't count our phone out.
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Yeah i saw it somewhere it wasn't the complete list, but i find it hard to believe an 1 year old phone get the second update of its existence; the phone is technically 1 year old, considering its a variation of the DHD (released in september '10 I believe)
Sure i hope for a ICS release.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-announces-which-devices-get-ice-cream-sandwich/

The source code is gonna get posted on 17th with all probability. Sometime after that we should start seeing some true ICS ported ROMs.
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Source code its out!
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Yup, and I'm anxious to see what ROMs we get based on it.
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I think htc will give us the official release of sense 3.0 or even sense 3.5 to make up for the widgets and animations ICS will have to offer so we arent completely out of the loop

JerseyScottie said:
I think htc will give us the official release of sense 3.0 or even sense 3.5 to make up for the widgets and animations ICS will have to offer so we arent completely out of the loop
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It wont matter really what HTC releases. It will be up to ATT to release a build built for the inspire or the best we can hope for is a port from the DHD. ATT normally has done a One OS update per device and thebinspire got theirs already. Hope I am wrong but history says I am not.

+1 for zelendel's post.
For anyone interested in ICS ROM(port):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374912

Is anyone else not a big fan of sense?

Or is it just me? I love the inquisition rom for this exact reason. IDK, I just don't like it very much. Am I in a lone group with this? What's everyone else's take?

i wish hTC makes their phones as simple as the galaxy nexus, that's why i will flash a "senseless" ICS ROM.

I love AOSP ROMs, not de-sensed ROMs as they contain parts of sense still in them. E.g OpenSensation, nice AOSP ROM...
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Oops, double post...

Are senseless Roms quicker ? Better battery life ?
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I agree....I hate sense....its just not my stlyd which is why I have virtuous inquisition as well
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bstylz911 said:
Are senseless Roms quicker ? Better battery life ?
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that's what i've noticed on my previous HD2...i didn't try on my sensation yet, but i guess yeah, it's quicker

Sense is just a battery hog

I love sense... Probably because ive never owned an HTC before, and i really like how different it is to other android devices....
I dont think battery is that bad TBH, I can easily get 1-2 days use out of it....
Is there an HTC that doesnt come with sense (except windows phones) ??? If not why buy the HTC if you dont like sense ??

if you dont like sense you could install the aosp roms or install a third party launcher
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arabology said:
i wish hTC makes their phones as simple as the galaxy nexus, that's why i will flash a "senseless" ICS ROM.
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But then what would attract customers to buy a HTC device instead of a Galaxy Nexus?
OEM's can't compete on hardware differentiation alone IMO.

baste07 said:
install a third party launcher
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That won't change the horrible Sense apps. Yes, you could root your phone install an AOSP rom, but you shouldn't have to do that to make your phone work like it's supposed it.
HTC/other OEMS should just give an option to de-sense the phone somehow. If I had a pure-Google experience I wouldn't even need to root my phone.

Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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Ruus77 said:
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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Not many other phones have 1.5GHz stock, only on the XE. And the build quality is better, so is Android Development etc.

Ruus77 said:
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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I didn't buy it, TMO gave it to me for free cause my MT4G crapped out multiple times.

Ruus77 said:
Again why buy HTC then. The hardware specs are available in many other phones. IMHO.
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i bought it because of the qhd screen, also i like my devices to have some weight and feel sturdy something which other manufactures seem to not understand how to do

I like sense ...its gives the brand of HTC...I prefer look/feel and performance both so HTC with custom roms is perfect for me
Coming from iphone4 I used to have cheap opinion of android (yeah I know I'm little over my head when I had iPhone4) but once I got this little beast on my hands I'm baffled (the rich looking HTC sense and powerful beast inside)
I'm more than amazed ..may be I'm liking sense coz this is my first android phone but right now I feel like sense is a must for a HTC phone....when others look at my phone they'll just know its HTC
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Normally I'd take AOSP over Sense any day, but these AOSP ROMs always have some large turnoff that I don't want to mess with. I've been pretty fine with Sense 4.0 though.

We have been scammed by HTC.

HTC allows us to unlock but does not allow total root capabilities.
What is the point of unlocking and losing warranty if the phone is not truly yours?
Love the One S LOTS! But why keep it if development will be hampered by HTC?
Not a Samsung fan but I guess it will be my next device. Maybe sooner than later if I can sell the One S or trade for a G-Nex.
Got the S cause of T-Mobile and want true aosp along with full root functions. Thought it would be no problem to get aosp but wow was I wrong! Sense sucks!
Thanks HTC for once again SUCKING! You are losing the ONES who truly love your devices!

You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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joshnichols189 said:
You seriously thought it would be easy to get AOSP on an HTC phone? That's where you went wrong.
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Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/

LikeaG2root said:
Yeah aosp sucked on the HTC G1, HTC Nexus One, and my last phone,the HTC G2. Gee whatever gave me that idea?/ sarcasm/
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Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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joshnichols189 said:
Hmm well maybe if you paid attention to recent trends and saw how hard it was to S-Off the vivid and rezound, you would have made a better purchasing decision.
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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?

Point is that HTC advertises that they are " developer friendly" which is total B.S.
They turn the knob for you but will not let you open the Fn door!

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Is the vivid and rezound now s- off?
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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I don't know, I think they have some insane hacking to get S-Off. I believe everything to achieve it on those devices has been patched. What I am trying to say is they have roms that are decent but it took them forever to get S-Off and their development was crippled by it.
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Just sucks how HTC is half assing their support.
I will likely hold on and wait for some good news in the future.
Never, since using Android ,have I ever thought about giving up on HTC until now
399$ Nexus looking real good right now.

Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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Don't do it man, I had a galaxy nexus and I miss AOSP but Samsung makes some plastic ass phones. It'll get better in due time. The One S has an advantage over the One X and maybe the SGSIII in that the European model and US model are exactly the same.
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I hear you man. I have always praised HTC build quality over Samsung.
I do agree that the S is better than the X. Phone is a BEAST. Just wish it was not handcuffed to Sense

For now the best I can do is keep using Black Dragon Rom which "looks" for the most part aosp.

Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
You are certainly not helping.
OP, how is AOSP on the G2? I saw it is basically fully functional and thought about getting one for a backup phone.
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The G2 was awesome. Very large and very good development support for it since it is also the same as Desire Z.
Sold it after getting One S. I had ICS on it working good including camera. Gingerbread was lightning fast on it.

phin586 said:
Another wah-baby post... sad. I thought most people would realize it might be a couple of months before there is a fully functional and stable AOSP build. I did. Whatever.
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You are missing the point. Of course I did not expect huge development this early for the S. What you are missing is that the support my not get a chance due to HTC and HTC is misleading<which is what this thread is about.

Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You get FULL CONTROL AND CHOICE with AOSP along with SPEED and FLUIDITY!

ajftl said:
Why people like aosp. ****ing boring. Then u need a bunch of widgets cause the aosp widgets suck ass get the gnex I suggest u. Sense 4 rules
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You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?

joshnichols189 said:
You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Very stable. Looks aosp for the most part using Apex launcher and themed status bar and notifications. Sense system menu still there along with keyboard,gallery, and camera.

joshnichols189 said:
You can get all of the Sense 4 widgets in one app.
OP, how is Black Dragon on your T-Mobile One S? Assuming you don't have the international one?
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Not the same. I tried. Widgetspro its one of the beat ones.
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