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MT4G to be launched in Canada as HTC Emerald /w Android 2.3 + HTC Sense

http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?

Taknarosh said:
http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?
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You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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epsix said:
You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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Yeah, hopefully this allows for a bug-free Gingerbread/Sense ROM on our mt4g's.

I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).

TeeJay3800 said:
I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).
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Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!

smooth3d said:
Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!
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Yes I know, that's why in my second paragraph I express my happiness about that development.

i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.

darinmc said:
i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.
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If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!

2.3 is already scheduled for Q2
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I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Taknarosh said:
If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!
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Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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epsix said:
Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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Good point, yeah all you need is the kernel. Point is it will be out before the update is pushed to T-Mo users.

theres a new ROM now that has the 2.3 update .

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/05/11/a...ail-at-mobilicity-for-499-99-launch-imminent/
They'll be calling it the HTC "Panache".
I noticed the Genius button is gone, back to a plain old search button.
I hope they don't lock down this variant as stringently as the Incredible S. I wonder if there's any hardware differences that'd make it incompatible with a RUU from the MT4G?
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I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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AndrewAD3 said:
I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.

Ace42 said:
Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.
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Sense has to be the most streamlined custom UI out there.

eliasadrian said:
I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Aosp is quite a bit faster and leaner. Phone runs well on stock sense but I've been on cm7 for 5 months and I'm not looking back.
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HTC Panache Rom
You can install this rom from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079091
Is the Stock version of HTC Panache / HTC Emerald of Canada.
Work Great!
If you want to install the Royal Panache with a few mods ...
Install from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074783

[Q] we ever getting ICS

Is te HTC Inspire gettin ICS?
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As of right now, the Inspire is supposed to get ICS, but it is still up for debate. I bet there will be ICS ports though, so we will get it one way or another
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I thought HTC denied the Inspire would get ICS

Unless they denied it within the last week, it is still floating in limbo. Some say the HTC Ace and Stallion,which are the code names for DHD and Inspire, should receive ICS
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Even if the inspire doesn't get an official update to ICS there will be a custom rom

I don't think there will ever be an official release. We may get a newer gingerbread upgrade since the last on bites, but development for the inspire leaves us with better roms than stock anyway. I bet there will be a better more stable release through xda before ics ever hits officially for the inspire, but I don't think it ever will. I emailed HTC and asked if we would be getting ics or any other upgrades and they said they are working to make the experience better for the inspire but do not have anything in the works currently. This lead me to beleive they are long past worrying about the inspire. We will probably not even get a better gingerbread build imo.

HTC already released the list of devices that are getting ICS, Inspire4g/desire hd not in it.
Sorry.

If it doesn't we will still get it with ports from other devices... and of course cyanogen so no worries man
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I'm sure there will be a couple custom ICS ROMs on here.
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mateusm said:
HTC already released the list of devices that are getting ICS, Inspire4g/desire hd not in it.
Sorry.
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It wasn't a complete list. It was like these are the phones are definitely getting ics. The HTC desire had just got gb earlier this years when HTC clearly said it wouldn't. So don't count our phone out.
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houstonsveryown said:
It wasn't a complete list. It was like these are the phones are definitely getting ics. The HTC desire had just got gb earlier this years when HTC clearly said it wouldn't. So don't count our phone out.
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Yeah i saw it somewhere it wasn't the complete list, but i find it hard to believe an 1 year old phone get the second update of its existence; the phone is technically 1 year old, considering its a variation of the DHD (released in september '10 I believe)
Sure i hope for a ICS release.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-announces-which-devices-get-ice-cream-sandwich/

The source code is gonna get posted on 17th with all probability. Sometime after that we should start seeing some true ICS ported ROMs.
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Source code its out!
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Yup, and I'm anxious to see what ROMs we get based on it.
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I think htc will give us the official release of sense 3.0 or even sense 3.5 to make up for the widgets and animations ICS will have to offer so we arent completely out of the loop

JerseyScottie said:
I think htc will give us the official release of sense 3.0 or even sense 3.5 to make up for the widgets and animations ICS will have to offer so we arent completely out of the loop
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It wont matter really what HTC releases. It will be up to ATT to release a build built for the inspire or the best we can hope for is a port from the DHD. ATT normally has done a One OS update per device and thebinspire got theirs already. Hope I am wrong but history says I am not.

+1 for zelendel's post.
For anyone interested in ICS ROM(port):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374912

Disappointed in ICS

NOT totally....but wanted my status bar to have a blue battery icon also everytime I type I get a notification icon of a keyboard???
Otherwise me likeyyy....the developer section is awesome!!!!
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ShaunMichael80 said:
NOT totally....but wanted my status bar to have a blue battery icon also everytime I type I get a notification icon of a keyboard???
Otherwise me likeyyy....the developer section is awesome!!!!
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Man, the kitchen is made for something! And the keyboard on the status bar is normal and let you choose which keyboard you want to use
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ShaunMichael80 said:
also everytime I type I get a notification icon of a keyboard???
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This is ICS behaviour - it replaces the pop up that appeared when you long pressed in a text box component on earlier Android versions that allows you to configure your input method.
If you test and/or use alternative keyboards or other input methods that shortcut is a blessing imo... if you don't need them, it could be annoying but you get used to it almost immediately.

Ohhh...well why no blue battery bar....that's lame
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ShaunMichael80 said:
Ohhh...well why no blue battery bar....that's lame
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It's not AOSP... You can contact HTC and ask why they chose to make it that way.

ShaunMichael80 said:
Ohhh...well why no blue battery bar....that's lame
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Seriously???????v

ShaunMichael80 said:
Ohhh...well why no blue battery bar....that's lame
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Lawlz
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im just thankful htc gave us ics and didnt leave us behind. u should be happy for that plus thats why we have root and custom roms.

s10shane said:
im just thankful htc gave us ics and didnt leave us behind. u should be happy for that plus thats why we have root and custom roms.
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That's the smallest thing htc had to do! A phone that comes out with a certain version of android will always be updated to the next one... The problem is when htc has to update the sensation to jellybean... Imo the sensation won't ever receive an official jellybean update unfortunately
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matt95 said:
That's the smallest thing htc had to do! A phone that comes out with a certain version of android will always be updated to the next one... The problem is when htc has to update the sensation to jellybean... Imo the sensation won't ever receive an official jellybean update unfortunately
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So we're paying for updates now? God forbid we actually enjoy the phone, but screw that noise, can't enjoy a great phone if I know I've only gotten one major OS update.
Get real. Who cares? The phone launched with 2.3, you got an update that bumped it all the way to 4.0.3, I'd say that's plenty.

We will get Jellybean someday...that's why we have XDA!

No seriously but I have to admit, HTC have no quality control. HTC sense looks pretty, but slow as hell, even with tweaks.
Touchwiz 4 is so buttery smooth, even if it isn't as attractive it is efficient and when i payed for this phone back when both came out I expected some decent usability and speed.
Timescape UI is also so refined. My dads Xperia arc runs smoother on a single core on timescale compared to dual core powered sense. This was my first and last HTC device
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matt95 said:
That's the smallest thing htc had to do! A phone that comes out with a certain version of android will always be updated to the next one... The problem is when htc has to update the sensation to jellybean... Imo the sensation won't ever receive an official jellybean update unfortunately
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Yeah the Sensation will never see an official Jelly bean in my opinion. But there really is no doubt that the Sensation will have ROMs with the next I would say two too three Android OS versions. It just has the hardware specs to be a device that will handle future OS updates.
sshede said:
So we're paying for updates now? God forbid we actually enjoy the phone, but screw that noise, can't enjoy a great phone if I know I've only gotten one major OS update.
Get real. Who cares? The phone launched with 2.3, you got an update that bumped it all the way to 4.0.3, I'd say that's plenty.
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You have a point, but I personally feel like the Sensation has the ability to continue to get every new Android versions like the HD2 does. The development community for this device is pretty outstanding in my opinion.
Oh and remember the Sensation, as well as all Android smartphones, got locked out of Android 3.0 as it was just for tablets. I mean Google did finally drop the source code on it when the released ICS. But with ICS being for both phones and tablets, I do not really see anyone making the effort to get 3.0 running on a phone now.

I don't see fully why not. I know for a fact it will be able to handle it because the desire c or whatever will definitely get it along with the one v and they are single cores. HTC brought ics to the desire s, why not jellybean to the sensation?
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Gotta love the genius developers at xda! If its possible they will do it! I have total confidence in them!
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[Q] When is 4.1 jelly bean being released?

You knew this question was going to come. Now that 4.1 has been announced, when are we getting ours?

This will take a longer time for sure, as HTC is still busy to release ICS

Jellybean dev kits are supposed to be released mid july. At least that's what this source says: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/27/google-announces-android-41-jelly-bean/
But it may be a while before we get a working ROM.

Given the time it took the CM team to release CM9 RC1, I'd say 6 months!

what about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736699

Brace yourself for a long wait
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While ICS is quite nice, it is hard not to want the latest, greatest thing on our devices Still, at least the Nexus 7 is available to fulfil the JB goodness until it's available. That may end up replacing my Nook Color which hasn't been used in a month since it's ac adapter gave up the ghost.

HTC says they "don't yet have an announcement" for Jelly Bean on existing devices.
... I can't post a link because <10 posts, but there is an article on pocket-lint.com

That will only lead to an anemic SDK ROM. sure it will show us the cool new features, but I wouldn't expect much. I wonder how long it takes to hit AOSP
kjacksonmusic said:
what about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736699
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Q1 or Q2 next year would be my guess
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Since i'm assuming jellybean isn't as big of a change internally as ICS was from gingerbread it'll be a shorter wait. Still I wouldn't expect anything shorter than like Oct of this year.

seangprice said:
Q1 or Q2 next year would be my guess
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I heard GSM Nexus devices are already receiving leaked OTA of 4.1 today.
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mjm128 said:
Since i'm assuming jellybean isn't as big of a change internally as ICS was from gingerbread it'll be a shorter wait. Still I wouldn't expect anything shorter than like Oct of this year.
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Actually most of the changes are internal. I think project butter is a big internal change. Although the One S is already very smooth, squeezing more performance out of the S4 is a welcomed thing

How about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340

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How about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
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Pretty interesting read. Looking at the pictures it doesn't look much different. I wonder what changes it will bring along.
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Check engadget, the new additions are all pretty cool. I def wouldn't mind having an even smoother os
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jellybean just got sent ota for gsm galaxy nexus !

Google doesn't care
I remember reading recently that Google knows about fragmentation but isn't worried about it. Now that I'm tempted to buy a media device to have the latest and greatest software, I can see how fragmentation can actually work for Google because now more and more people will look to buy nexus devices.

the main reason i got a HTC phone is because unlike Samsung's strange choice in hardware it dosnt take 5 months to port a fast stable release from the MOD team unlike HTC
lets hope this takes off !

the one X got already a port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736

HTC will not give the Desire HD ICS

Does this mean use tbolt users will not get it? I mean come on...our phone are based from on the Desire HD
Check this out
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-hd-stay-current-software-no-ics-update
And if u guys go into the Desire HD forum , there is a petition ... Go sign it!
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vader540is said:
Does this mean use tbolt users will not get it? I mean come on...our phone are based from on the Desire HD
Check this out
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-hd-stay-current-software-no-ics-update
And if u guys go into the Desire HD forum , there is a petition ... Go sign it!
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I highly doubt it will affect Thunderbolt users, so I wouldn't really worry about it.
Besides, they REALLY owe it to us. Haha.
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Same hardware as desire hd, don't be surprised when they cancel this too.
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Didn't HTC already confirm the TB for an upgrade?

HTC didn't cancel the Desire update, Canadian carrier Tellus canceled it due to bad performance. Even with Tellus jumping the gun and canceling the update, HTC has said it would move forward with developing updates for all Desire models.
Quite frankly this is a big part of the problem, instead of the carrier pushing HTC to do better and not accepting failure, they decided to screw their customers.
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Seems like we at still officially on. They updated it with the desire crossed out, but thunderbolt still showing
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
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I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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vader540is said:
I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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Not for the Thunderbolt. Everything that doesn't have to do with the radios works as devs are still waiting on RIL.

vader540is said:
I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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The Thunderbolt will most likely never see jellybean. We are lucky enough to be considered for ICS
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I personally don't think jellybean is going to run worth a crap in this phone. The vsyncing that was thrown in jellybean is resource intensive and I don't think the hardware of the thunderbolt can handle that. Ics will run good I'm sure but jellybean throws a wrench into things because of vsync timers.
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Wouldn't devs just be able to disable the VSync feature? I mean, CM has a lot of under-the-hood tweaks. I'm sure with full source they'll be able to port forward the ICS code, worst case. I can't imagine 4.0 to 4.1 as being anything but incremental.

That vsync feature is one of the things that makes jellybean great because the phones that can handle it and can utilize that feature will see great improvements to the smoothness of the ui.
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Way I see it, if Verizon decides to **** block ICS for us, they owe us a free upgrade. People talk about getting better phones just by *****ing... This would be more of a reason imho... Paired with some aforementioned *****ing, that is.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt

Dannar said:
Way I see it, if Verizon decides to **** block ICS for us, they owe us a free upgrade.
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Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've read today... oh, wait, you were serious?
Looks like ICS may NOT come to the T'bolt and, as we all should know by now, if we don't get a T'bolt ICS the devs can't make ROMs for us.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...-cream-sandwich-update-officially-in-trouble/
Sorry.....

xs11e said:
Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've read today... oh, wait, you were serious?
Looks like ICS may NOT come to the T'bolt and, as we all should know by now, if we don't get a T'bolt ICS the devs can't make ROMs for us.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...-cream-sandwich-update-officially-in-trouble/
Sorry.....
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That article adds no new information and is just speculation. Regrettably I tend to agree with what it's saying, but it's not like someone dropped the other shoe. Hopefully we'll at least get a leak with a working ril, even if HTC decides to puss out on us too.
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animez said:
Hopefully we'll at least get a leak with a working ril, even if HTC decides to puss out on us too.
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Unless HTC and VZW release ICS for the T'bolt there can't be a leak with a working ril, can there? Any ril that works for the T'bolt would exist ONLY in a T'bolt ICS release unless a dev can build an ril from scratch?

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Unless HTC and VZW release ICS for the T'bolt there can't be a leak with a working ril, can there? Any ril that works for the T'bolt would exist ONLY in a T'bolt ICS release unless a dev can build an ril from scratch?
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If we get a leak it will have the ril we need and the kernel too.
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disconnecktie said:
If we get a leak it will have the ril we need and the kernel too.
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Agreed but there won't be a leak if HTC and VZW don't create a ROM. The rumored soak test has produced no leak so far, I heard (who knows if it's true or not?) that the NDA had sufficient teeth in it that none of the testers would leak it.... so *IF* the soak test really happened or is happening then we can believe in one hell of an NDA because there is no leak AFAIK.
FWIW, I really don't care much, HTC's website says IF the T'bolt gets ICS it'll have Sense 3.6 and will NOT get sense 4.x because of performance issues and that makes me think two things:
1. The T'bolt really doesn't have the horsepower to run ICS with Sense 4.x and so
2. We're better off with a good ROM and Gingerbread than we will be with ICS.
However, I can upgrade in... well, never. So.... I'll keep running my current ROM(s) and see what happens and what shows up on Ebay!

If Desire HD can't handle ICS, what's with the Desire C??
Well,.....I call BS on the Desire HD or the Thunderbolt not being able to handle ICS or Sense 4.0.
It's clearly a marketing strategy to sell new devices and nothing more.
If it were true that the Desire HD could not run ICS and Sense 4.0 acceptably, then why in God's name would HTC be releasing the Desire C?
Has anyone checked out the specs on that ICS Sense 4.0 device?
CHECK IT OUT
So yeah, I call BS!!!!

That desire c is really low end hardware but yet can run the newest software. Definitely a marketing strategy on htc's part by not giving us the best software. Our phones are more than capable of running it. Another example is the one v. Same specs as ours
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