http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
So finally the blaze has been confirmed along with others to get ICS which I knew would and am glad I haven't messed around with root or anything else so the update works and makes this phone even better!
Rooting shouldn't affect the process of updating or the update itself.
Anyway, I'm glad to see that this is happening.
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Rooting shouldn't affect the process of updating or the update itself.
Anyway, I'm glad to see that this is happening.
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I was under the impression if you changed the kernel you wouldn't receive OTA updates. The process is reversible, but just saying.
That being said, I'll continue my streak, and bet you $10 we don't see ICS from Samsung within the next 3 months.
Oh yeah, I forgot..... this may not be the case anymore, but I remember back in the 2.1-2.2 days that people were always looking for someone that had a phone on 2.1 that received the OTA update to 2.2 to not install it until they had a log thingamajiggie running, as it helped people do their magic with the official rom.
I'm no wizard but if this is desirable to anyone who wants to work on roms for this phone whenever they decide to push ICS to us, lemme know, and lemme know how to do it.
I had to unroot and restore everything to get the ota 2.2 update to work back when I had my Motorola...
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I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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It looks like another Cheesecake leak may be bound to happen soon....I was checking Cheesecake this morning at around 5:30 AM EST (out of my insomnia-wracked sleep cycle) and very briefly saw an update notification for an update on one of the QA servers. For all reading, I am on the AT&T-branded MB865. Due to my stupidity (and frantic excitement), I accidentally declined.
The server the update (very briefly) showed up on was master-qa2.blurdev.com under QA. I would recommend everyone to keep checking frantically over the next couple of days/weeks - it would seem that most leaked updates come from the Dev & QA server groups (the staging servers would appear to be for pushing updates to people in the Motorola Tester Network, though I may be wrong about that).
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE KEEP CHECKING ON CHEESECAKE DAILY!!!
So, if rooted, and we see an update on Cheesecake for ICS v4.0 do we install? Would this be an "official" (so to speak OTA) update to 4.0, or a version created from the official 4.0 update from AT&T? I'm sorta confused...
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So, if rooted, and we see an update on Cheesecake for ICS v4.0 do we install? Would this be an "official" (so to speak OTA) update to 4.0, or a version created from the official 4.0 update from AT&T? I'm sorta confused...
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NNNNNNOOOOO!!!!!
sorry, had to make that clear. Do not install it. It may not be complete and may brick your phone. let it download, then deny it when it asks to install. pull it off the phone and upload it for us to take a look at in my ics work thread, or your own. if you need more help getting it off your phone tell us after you download it. you have to do that quick or it might go away before you get back to it.
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NNNNNNOOOOO!!!!!
sorry, had to make that clear. Do not install it. It may not be complete and may brick your phone. let it download, then deny it when it asks to install. pull it off the phone and upload it for us to take a look at in my ics work thread, or your own. if you need more help getting it off your phone tell us after you download it. you have to do that quick or it might go away before you get back to it.
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That's what I thought, but just wanted to be uber certain. If I find an update (which with my luck I wouldn't) I'll be sure to pass the update file on to someone with the know how to pick it apart for the rest of us!...
If found, downloaded, it goes to cache folder on sd card, right? Or if not, where would I find it to pull it from?
I've been on cheesecake twice so far today, and it seems links more servers than normal up, thought I got a hit like twice but eventually got the no update needed message.
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All,
Just purchased a new Verizon GS3. Will keep it stock for the time being but want to know what steps should I do before I unroot and unlock? Should I update the phone via Verizon updates first then unroot and unlock? Or it doesn't matter and I can just unroot/unlock then update via ota updates?
Reason why I'm not installing a new ROM is that I've been reading the forums and there is not alot of stable ROM's out, regardless what rom this phone has, there is a couple of things not working. I need this phone as stable as possible for work reasons. If I'm wrong, please let me know what you recommend.
Thanks!
You don't really need to update the phone once your rooted and unlocked if you want to keep your phone rooted and unlocked. It will lock your phone and there may be no going back. The updates so far haven't locked our boot loader but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If you want to have root and an unlocked bootloader then NEVER update via the OTA Update feature on your phone. Just download the update after one if our excellent devs has fixed it up. All of the current stock updates are available to be flashed now.
Sent by one of my many Anthromorphic Personifications
If you need it stable then dont tinker with it!
Sent from my CleanRom'd Galaxy SIII
Nutzzer said:
All,
Just purchased a new Verizon GS3. Will keep it stock for the time being but want to know what steps should I do before I unroot and unlock? Should I update the phone via Verizon updates first then unroot and unlock? Or it doesn't matter and I can just unroot/unlock then update via ota updates?
Reason why I'm not installing a new ROM is that I've been reading the forums and there is not alot of stable ROM's out, regardless what rom this phone has, there is a couple of things not working. I need this phone as stable as possible for work reasons. If I'm wrong, please let me know what you recommend.
Thanks!
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Leave it stock, and root it. Purchase Titanium Backup and then freeze the apps that update the firmware. Then that should save your rear end in case VZW tries to pull a sneaky sneaky on this phone. And it will open you up to some basic cool things as well.
You see, in the Matrix they offered the blue or the red pill. But, here at XDA they offer something for every one. Even the ones that want to be in the middle. They offer the red pill- stock no root, blue pill- Rom the phone have fun with some headaches at times. And the purple pill, stock and root with some benefits.
There are stable roms for this phone, but in your case I guess you should stay stock.
Sent from my Galaxy SIII
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait
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hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?
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To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device
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thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!
Please forgive me if my questions have been answered many times but I really don't know what to look for in the search menu to address my questions.
1. I have rooted my phone and installed Liquid smooth but I went back to stock (still on 4.1.2 TW) and would like to update to at least 4.3 or higher. One issue I'm having is that when the OTA comes through and I go to update it gives me an error. But even before that as I am rooted it boots into TeamWin and wants me to install from there. It has been a while since I've done anything with the boot loader and I'm afraid to install from there and/or if that is wise. (frankly I've forgotten how)
Honestly I just want a quick way to install the update to 4.3 or 4.4 or whatever the next OTA is so that I can move on. I really don't even want to mess with it much right now as my life is way to busy.
2. My search so far has shown me that others are having similar issues but they are saying that the ota update is messing up certain things with their rooted phones (haven't found the answers I'm searching for either). Should I wait on updating? If so, how do I get the ota to stop wanting me to update my phone?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
wouldn't you know, that as soon as I submit this post I find another thread dealing with the same thing... Sorry for the clutter.
Here is the thread I found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49249510
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Please forgive me if my questions have been answered many times but I really don't know what to look for in the search menu to address my questions.
1. I have rooted my phone and installed Liquid smooth but I went back to stock (still on 4.1.2 TW) and would like to update to at least 4.3 or higher. One issue I'm having is that when the OTA comes through and I go to update it gives me an error. But even before that as I am rooted it boots into TeamWin and wants me to install from there. It has been a while since I've done anything with the boot loader and I'm afraid to install from there and/or if that is wise. (frankly I've forgotten how)
Honestly I just want a quick way to install the update to 4.3 or 4.4 or whatever the next OTA is so that I can move on. I really don't even want to mess with it much right now as my life is way to busy.
2. My search so far has shown me that others are having similar issues but they are saying that the ota update is messing up certain things with their rooted phones (haven't found the answers I'm searching for either). Should I wait on updating? If so, how do I get the ota to stop wanting me to update my phone?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
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Since your life is too busy and you don't want to mess with your phone anymore, your best bet is go back to stock 4.3 which is very good by the way, very stable, smooth and bug free. After so many complaints from my wife I rolled it back to stock 4.3 and she's so happy now.
1. Flash stock MF1 here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 , just unzip the flash with Odin
2. Your phone should take the 4.3 OTA update and you're home free.
buhohitr said:
Since your life is too busy and you don't want to mess with your phone anymore, your best bet is go back to stock 4.3 which is very good by the way, very stable, smooth and bug free. After so many complaints from my wife I rolled it back to stock 4.3 and she's so happy now.
1. Flash stock MF1 here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196 , just unzip the flash with Odin
2. Your phone should take the 4.3 OTA update and you're home free.
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Thanks so much, but now that I've put a little more research into this update I'm seeing that others are having issues with tethering and that would be a serious issue for me.
Also I used twrp to root my phone and did not use odin so I don't know how to flash with odin (or even have the files on my computer) is there a way to us twrp?
It looks like I will need to put a little more time into this than I wanted. Anyway, thanks for the help.
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Thanks so much, but now that I've put a little more research into this update I'm seeing that others are having issues with tethering and that would be a serious issue for me.
Also I used twrp to root my phone and did not use odin so I don't know how to flash with odin (or even have the files on my computer) is there a way to us twrp?
It looks like I will need to put a little more time into this than I wanted. Anyway, thanks for the help.
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No issue with tethering for me, just root then install wifi tether router.