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info about AlphaRevX for DesireS ; Software "S-OFFing" DesireS

i see that a lot of people are asking about AlphaRevX and info about AlphaRevX is spread in several topics in several device forums.
actually i spoke to guys working on AlphaRevX.
i learned that AlphaRevX is tested on HTC Wildfire/IncredibleS.
BUT i was told that DesireS should be also unlocked with AlphaRevX - but closed beta testing was not done on DesireS yet.
only sensation should not work with AlphaRevX for Wildfire/IncredibleS because its setup its a bit different(but im sure someone will work this out eventually).
AlphaRevX could be released until end of this month. at least that seems to be the consensus.
all we need to do is wait (and donate)

great news!

wow great news!!! yahoooooooo! I can't wait for this!

lamzor said:
i see that a lot of people are asking about AlphaRevX and info about AlphaRevX is spread in several topics in several device forums.
actually i spoke to guys working on AlphaRevX.
i learned that AlphaRevX is tested on HTC Wildfire/IncredibleS.
BUT i was told that DesireS should be also unlocked with AlphaRevX - but closed beta testing was not done on DesireS yet.
only sensation should not work with AlphaRevX for Wildfire/IncredibleS because its setup its a bit different(but im sure someone will work this out eventually).
AlphaRevX could be released until end of this month. at least that seems to be the consensus.
all we need to do is wait (and donate)
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just what i wanted to hear

I still believe that S-Off Desire S would be the same way as S-Offing the Incredible S

The AlphaRevX is a modified bootloader right ?

I hope it will be reversible..(unlike xtc clip) so you could S-ON for warranty purposes.

.sh4d0w. said:
I hope it will be reversible..(unlike xtc clip) so you could S-ON for warranty purposes.
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From what I've read on the IS forum it is reversible.
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ben_pyett said:
From what I've read on the IS forum it is reversible.
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great news. just upgraded from wildfire to desire s can't wait to get it rooted

chubby65 said:
great news. just upgraded from wildfire to desire s can't wait to get it rooted
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Congratulations! I sure you would love this phone.. and yeah.. we all waiting to get a software to S-OFF our phones!

Software S-Off? Bring it on!
I'll be looking for more developments hopefully in the near future ...
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I would love to learn all this stuff... but i dont know where to start.. so development is not for me.. thinking i know programming in a lot of languages... and i know a lot of hardware stuff... but still... well.. lets hope that someone who knows will make it!

lamzor said:
i learned that AlphaRevX is tested on HTC Wildfire/IncredibleS.
BUT i was told that DesireS should be also unlocked with AlphaRevX - but closed beta testing was not done on DesireS yet.
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Who told this to you? Was it the developer of AlphaRevX ?? Are you SURE that this will come to the Desire S ? I don't care when, but are you positive this it will support the Desire S? From your post, it seems like an assumption. Thnx

Well.. send the developer a pm and ask him... i pretty sure that it will work on the DS or it will help to make one for DS

shrome99 said:
Who told this to you? Was it the developer of AlphaRevX ?? Are you SURE that this will come to the Desire S ? I don't care when, but are you positive this it will support the Desire S? From your post, it seems like an assumption. Thnx
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yes, i believe they are the main developers of this utility. IEF and KMDM.
KMDM is also posting here on xda-devs forums. you can PM him, but im sure he will not be able to provide more information like i did. we will need to wait until AlphaRevX will be released and someone will test in on desireS or someone will betatest it with desireS.
as i wrote in 1st post, they said it SHOULD work on desireS without any problem.
i sure hope so

lamzor said:
yes, i believe they are the main developers of this utility. IEF and KMDM.
KMDM is also posting here on xda-devs forums. you can PM him, but im sure he will not be able to provide more information like i did. we will need to wait until AlphaRevX will be released and someone will test in on desireS or someone will betatest it with desireS.
as i wrote in 1st post, they said it SHOULD work on desireS without any problem.
i sure hope so
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Thanks for the info bro. I'll wait about one more month for this. That's the PEAK of my patience. If it's not out by then, I'm gonna have to use the XTC Clip.

Technically the Incredible S and Desire S share the same bootloader security so there really shouldnt be a problem with it working on the DS.

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Not out, Desire S support will probably be added after the initial release.
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Well... we will see

Is root is required to have this modded hboot replaced?

jazzaddict said:
Is root is required to have this modded hboot replaced?
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No, from what I understand this is a software method that will make your device S-OFF (the same as the XTC would, except reversible) and then you'll be able to achieve root using either the gingerbreak or superoneclick method.
EDIT: I now believe that you'll need TEMP root to apply the software....continue to read the next posts for more information.....

Paul is in the game!

Hey guys,
Paul O'Brien just tweeted that he received his sensation this morning! That's awesome.
Also, HTC sent him a s-off version!
That should give a massive boost to sensation development.

This is really great, really gives HTC extra points if they give such a big handover to community. That´s the spirit, give an unlocked phone to such a dev.
Just wishing they would do the same for Cyanogen...

I can't wait to see what he has in store! This phone has so much potential once they get it unlocked, it's crazy!

This is wonderful, damn I'm looking forward to see him doing his magic!

HTC shud send him device with S-ON so he can figure out how to S-OFF it.
If he already hv S-OFF device, nothing much todo then

Let's see how fast he roots..... He's usually pretty quick. Go Paul go!

He's running on 1.34.401.1 - new ROM version
I did ask if he was ENG S-OFF or SHIP S-OFF but he didn't reply

EddyOS said:
He's running on 1.34.401.1 - new ROM version
I did ask if he was ENG S-OFF or SHIP S-OFF but he didn't reply
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Hmm, maybe that is the ROM that is S-OFF by default then, ie the unlocked bootloaders
I think it's SHIP S-OFF, he posted a pic here

If it's ship S-off, he can flash to ENG S-OFF jsut like I did when I flashed a stock ROM

Excited Then, what does HTC do...giving out free devices?
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rahan95 said:
If it's ship S-off, he can flash to ENG S-OFF jsut like I did when I flashed a stock ROM
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Send him an email with the link to the thread

but i read one of paul's tweet that he wont reverse engineer any PR device unit T__T

He's ship s-off

override182 said:
but i read one of paul's tweet that he wont reverse engineer any PR device unit T__T
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Yeah, he won't reverse engineer it. Doesn't mean he won't develop for it, or flash ENG H-BOOT!

Great!
Paul should to a lot Progress because this phone hase huge Potential !

HTC is starting to make smarter plays.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
HTC is starting to make smarter plays.
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Yeah, ages after the competition... But I'm still due for an upgrade in july, tje question is, ain't it better to wait for the SGS3, rumors say it's coming in Q3.
f.
Sent from the Dark Side using Sith knowledge (and a SGS 2)

If unlocked and rooted first, I'll stick with HTC. As has been the ongoing theme, the best hackers make stuff for HTC, hence the topic of this thread.

forelli said:
Yeah, ages after the competition... But I'm still due for an upgrade in july, tje question is, ain't it better to wait for the SGS3, rumors say it's coming in Q3.
f.
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Q3 this year? I'd expect q1/q2 next year, a lot of people will be pissed when they release the SGS3 this year.

Fantastic news. Htc sent him it with s=off. Hopefully we receive the update as well to turn s-off on our devices (which mines probably isnt) so this phone can turn from beast to godlike.
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RUU 1.94.6

I managed to get my hands on a newer RUU and can confirm bootloader unlock, cwm and rooting are still working.

xiambax said:
I managed to get my hands on a newer RUU and can confirm bootloader unlock, cwm and rooting are still working.
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ok so are you going to upload it?

really??
for ATT?

i doubt its for att

Seems to vague to me
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ok well can you tell us what has been fixed and if its android 4.0.4 or still 4.0.3

Please get in contact with someone that can check for any special blockers and checks. Maybe we can extract a radio and keep you employed :thumbup:
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Yeah there are ways of extracting info and keeping you anonymous
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Shenanigans.... I call shenanigans
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maybe posting the build.prop will give us more info? android version etc.

when the update arrives OTA can I update directly through the software update if i am rooted?

Tell us if it has a different hboot version. The new EVO ota added a much more strict hboot, as well as added wp to more partitions. Those who accepted, that were not already s off can no longer s off, cannot flash kernals, or radios while unlocked. Is hboot updated??? A yes or no should not jeopardize your employment and could offer the community enough time to warn the members. Thus avoiding the forum being flooded with the people silly enough to accept an ota posting help me threads all over the place
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)

Thanks for the heads up! I'm glad to finally see an OTA update is coming from Rogers.

why bother making a post if your not going to upload it?
I call bullshiz
Oh BTW, I have RUU 1.94.7 and confirm bootloader unlocked and cool stuff

Simpsons did it.

xiambax said:
http://imgur.com/a/mCn8f#0
Happy?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbs8OTEauHc

Can you tell me what the kernel build date is in About Phone?

xiambax said:
Not showing, I do recall seeing something about early june though.
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Okay, thank you!

18th.abn said:
Tell us if it has a different hboot version. The new EVO ota added a much more strict hboot, as well as added wp to more partitions. Those who accepted, that were not already s off can no longer s off, cannot flash kernals, or radios while unlocked. Is hboot updated??? A yes or no should not jeopardize your employment and could offer the community enough time to warn the members. Thus avoiding the forum being flooded with the people silly enough to accept an ota posting help me threads all over the place
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)
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Hboot isn't necessarily what's closing the exploit. Sbl is more likely.
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Thank you for the clarification beaups. I wasn't trying to imply that the hboot itself will be responsible for all the added security and patches.
It would be the updated hboot that enforces Sig checks for kernal and radio flashing, right? Or is it a new hboot version because its a MAY be a newly wp partition?
(^^^^^all based on speculation that these security patches are indeed applied of course)
............My EVO Ways...........
(You Can S-Off For All I Care)

One S and One X

Hey everyone im just sold my one s and bought one x but one x is not good as one s im truely sure about that worse battery life worse user interface performance maybe just screen is better i really missing my one s anyway my question is WHY one s's development thread is so weak (?) one s deserve better.

Yay, So it's true, the one s is better!!
And about the dev.. we have less because everyone thinks that the ONE X is better :\

LalyGirl said:
Yay, So it's true, the one s is better!!
And about the dev.. we have less because everyone thinks that the ONE X is better :\
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i try to get my one s back ASAP. i hope more dev will notice one s is better..

Development will thrive when S-OFF starts, I know I might try making a ROM if we get S-OFF, only reason I'm not doing it now is because I don't want to render my warranty void.
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No way that the One S is better lol
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usaff22 said:
Development will thrive when S-OFF starts, I know I might try making a ROM if we get S-OFF, only reason I'm not doing it now is because I don't want to render my warranty void.
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So you think we will get S-off?

LibertyMonger said:
So you think we will get S-off?
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Let's hope
If I helped in any way please hit thanks

CrayzyBoy said:
Let's hope
If I helped in any way please hit thanks
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Has HTC gave S-off to any of their other devices? I really don't think it will happen.

Don't want to jump in too much. But I had to at least say something. I'm curious what you mean when you say s=off will increase development... We will get more accomplished or attract more developers? Either way we said that for... Many, many months with the amaze... When we finally got s =off its been several months since and there has been no increase in development. Only one example but it was enough for me to think that's not the answer that we need
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HTC definitely won't give S-OFF. We will probably get it eventually, though. Getting it will not directly make more ROMs, but it will certainly make more people root their devices, which probably will lead to more ROMs.
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usaff22 said:
Development will thrive when S-OFF starts, I know I might try making a ROM if we get S-OFF, only reason I'm not doing it now is because I don't want to render my warranty void.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
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Not trying to discourage you from building roms but that's just a lame excuse for not doing so now. Do you really think HTC warranty terms will change when we get s-off? Again, lame!

dementor123 said:
Not trying to discourage you from building roms but that's just a lame excuse for not doing so now. Do you really think HTC warranty terms will change when we get s-off? Again, lame!
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No... have you ever heard of write secureflag 3... you can act like nothing ever happened, and they can never check.
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usaff22 said:
No... have you ever heard of write secureflag 3... you can act like nothing ever happened, and they can never check.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
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i know its off topic, but your location made me laugh

usaff22 said:
No... have you ever heard of write secureflag 3... you can act like nothing ever happened, and they can never check.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
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Oh ok thats relocked vs locked. I never had any problems though returning my one s with relocked bootloader but I had to return to T-Mobile and not HTC. Not sure if HTC is strict and checks everything.

I have a one s running viper 1.2 and its amazing on the one s great battery life and performance. This weekend I unlocked and installed the one x viper rom on my big brothers one x and my one s feels way speedier. The one x feels uncomfortable in my hands and looks bulky while the one s is sexy and packed with power. Just wish there was a bit more development for the one s.
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HTC has given s-off HTC one s at the big android barbeque yesterday! Hopefully this will help with s-off
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eminembdg said:
HTC has given s-off HTC one s at the big android barbeque yesterday! Hopefully this will help with s-off
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What do you mean?

I heard via Twitter that someone won a s off One S at androidbbq.
His Twitter acc is @just_reboot
Maybe some devs could contact him and help him extract the bootloader? Is there a posibility for us to use it then?

slainbybeats said:
I heard via Twitter that someone won a s off One S at androidbbq.
His Twitter acc is @just_reboot
Maybe some devs could contact him and help him extract the bootloader? Is there a posibility for us to use it then?
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No, even though he might have the S-OFF One S, you don't. The permissions are still the same and you won't be able to edit anything on YOUR device. You guys still need to find a method, nothing has changed.

slainbybeats said:
I heard via Twitter that someone won a s off One S at androidbbq.
His Twitter acc is @just_reboot
Maybe some devs could contact him and help him extract the bootloader? Is there a posibility for us to use it then?
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well, since hes the pr guy for team kang and is there with all those guys, im sure they are looking at it. but like the other guy said, itll be no help.

[Q] 4.2.2 update with Sense 5+

I did a search, but couldn't find a definitive answer to this question:
When the official ATT update comes out with 4.2.2 and Sense 5+, is there a danger in accepting the update with my phone in its present state?
Thanks,
Dan
Phone information:
HTC One X (AT&T version)
ROM: Stock 4.1.2 (from the HTC RUU site - I never got the OTA update)
Rooted
S-Off
TWRP 2.3.3.1
HBOOT-2.14.0000
Thanks for your help!

No as you have custom recovery. Just wait for a rooted flashable zip.
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DanGeorges said:
I did a search, but couldn't find a definitive answer to this question:
When the official ATT update comes out with 4.2.2 and Sense 5+, is there a danger in accepting the update with my phone in its present state?
Thanks,
Dan
Phone information:
HTC One X (AT&T version)
ROM: Stock 4.1.2 (from the HTC RUU site - I never got the OTA update)
Rooted
S-Off
TWRP 2.3.3.1
HBOOT-2.14.0000
Thanks for your help!
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We aren't getting the 4.2.2 update. We should only be getting 4.1.2
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Megadoug13 said:
We aren't getting the 4.2.2 update. We should only be getting 4.1.2
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REALLY? Not from what I've seen:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/25/htc-one-htc-one-x-android-4-2-updates-july/

Like all of these rumors, I'll believe it when I see it. I'ts completely without risk for someone to say these things are going to happen - if they DO, those people look like geniuses, and if they don't, no one calls them on it.

Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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HTC themselves did say they intend to update the one x to 4.2.2 sense 5 BUT technically, I don't believe they specified the dual core version so who knows.
HTC is Great with build quality and design but they are SO SLOW with updates. by the time Sense 5 comes out it will probably be time for a new phone anyway.

Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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ImagioX1 said:
Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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Makes me wonder......
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DanGeorges said:
is there a danger in accepting the update with my phone in its present state?
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You should consider any update offered by HTC as a moderate to high risk to a modded phone or a phone you want to mod.
HTC do not support a phone once it has been modded.
Any update may brick your device, prevent you unlocking, rooting, modding etc.
That said with supercid and soff the risks are reduced but not eliminated. Any update expects your phone to be stock, if it is not any amount of unknown things could go wrong.
If/when an update comes out you should only accept the update if you are willing to accept a bricked device. The risk reduces if others are saying they succeeded, but sometimes it takes time before it is fully clear of any quirks to updating. Eg JB with supercid on s-on AT&T devices caused many lost devices.

ImagioX1 said:
Nevermind I'll restrain myself.
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You can be HTC and supply us with timely updates
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dustinhayes93 said:
You can be HTC and supply us with timely updates
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I doubt you could fathom the amount of time and work that goes into rom development. Many roms are developed by teams. imagio is one person, let's not create any more pressure than the pressure he puts on himself. That's how you push someone into stopping development. If you really want to push him to do timely updates the best way is with frequent, large donations.
Twistedddx, while your post is 100% accurate, I think it's pretty safe to assume that it will fall on deaf ears for the type of people within this community. Personally, while this phone is just perfect as it is right now, a brick is just the perfect reason to upgrade lol
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DanGeorges said:
REALLY? Not from what I've seen:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/25/htc-one-htc-one-x-android-4-2-updates-july/
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Okay well then I was wrong. I've only read that we won't get 4.2.2
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exad said:
I doubt you could fathom the amount of time and work that goes into rom development. Many roms are developed by teams. imagio is one person, let's not create any more pressure than the pressure he puts on himself. That's how you push someone into stopping development. If you really want to push him to do timely updates the best way is with frequent, large donations.
Twistedddx, while your post is 100% accurate, I think it's pretty safe to assume that it will fall on deaf ears for the type of people within this community. Personally, while this phone is just perfect as it is right now, a brick is just the perfect reason to upgrade lol
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I know how much time and work imagio and his team put into there sense 5 Rom. They are doing an amazing job and that's what I ment by my comment. I simply ment that him and his team are doing a better job than HTC is at keeping us updated. In no way was I rushing them or causing pressure..
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twistedddx said:
You should consider any update offered by HTC as a moderate to high risk to a modded phone or a phone you want to mod.
HTC do not support a phone once it has been modded.
Any update may brick your device, prevent you unlocking, rooting, modding etc.
That said with supercid and soff the risks are reduced but not eliminated. Any update expects your phone to be stock, if it is not any amount of unknown things could go wrong.
If/when an update comes out you should only accept the update if you are willing to accept a bricked device. The risk reduces if others are saying they succeeded, but sometimes it takes time before it is fully clear of any quirks to updating. Eg JB with supercid on s-on AT&T devices caused many lost devices.
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Thank you for your answer to my question. I didn't realize that a simple question would generate so much angst.
I read about the bricked phones with S-On and SuperCID, but I haven't read anything about S-OFF and superCID with the update.

Double post. Can't delete. Sorry!