After talking with a bunch of friends who like the look of my phone after flashing a custom ROM, I got to thinking:
What if phone shops offered a ROM flashing service?
Some people are unsure about the flashing process even after reading through the instructions. This would allow people, who due to worries cant flash their phones, to have a custom ROM
Thoughts?
It would void the warranty tho. I also doubt that many of the average Joes out there would actually care. Most people I know with a Galaxy device don't even have Kies on the pc and have not idea whatsoever about the version of Android they're running. They're still happy tho, so why bursting their bubble?
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vnvman said:
It would void the warranty tho. I also doubt that many of the average Joes out there would actually care. Most people I know with a Galaxy device don't even have Kies on the pc and have not idea whatsoever about the version of Android they're running. They're still happy tho, so why bursting their bubble?
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Have it set for Pay-As-You-Go customers or people who bought a second hand phone. Depending on the ROM, it can feel like having a completely different device
I highly doubt that you would ever get a major store to offer it. Your best bet would be to find a small store (or make one) that does that kind of thing and give tutorials and such on the devices
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I highly doubt that you would ever get a major store to offer it. Your best bet would be to find a small store (or make one) that does that kind of thing and give tutorials and such on the devices
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Y'know what, you have just given me the best idea
I've always thought I was just gonna, well, stumble through life. Advertised right I reckon I could do this. Just a little store somewhere (local shopping center) and my netbook.
"Bored of the same phone. I can give it a makeover with a custom ROM!"
Hell, if I can do this then I'll even use the XDA banner on the store
Thank you so much for the idea
There is a little shop here in my town that offers jail breaking service and root on some phones. I asked about doing me OG evo They told me they didn't do HTC phones because the root was unstable. obviously they were wrong so yeah it'd be a good idea if you really know what you're doing on a variety of devices
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There is a little shop here in my town that offers jail breaking service and root on some phones. I asked about doing me OG evo They told me they didn't do HTC phones because the root was unstable. obviously they were wrong so yeah it'd be a good idea if you really know what you're doing on a variety of devices
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I'm gonna look into it. Im comfortable with HTC and Sony Ericsson at the moment
I live in Houston one of the biggest cities and there are several small phone shops in which some of them do offer some root/modifying services. I have been seriously considering opening up my own small business. I already make money fixing screens, some hardware components and rooting/flashing roms on the devices of people I know. It all started with me posting pics of what I was doing to my own devices. Then the messages just started pouring in. I think a small place could work if a strong enough reputation was built up.
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I live in Houston one of the biggest cities and there are several small phone shops in which some of them do offer some root/modifying services. I have been seriously considering opening up my own small business. I already make money fixing screens, some hardware components and rooting/flashing roms on the devices of people I know. It all started with me posting pics of what I was doing to my own devices. Then the messages just started pouring in. I think a small place could work if a strong enough reputation was built up.
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At the weekend I'm going to ask some of the stall owners at the local shopping center how much it costs.
To use the XDA logo would I have to ask the site owner? Just since all these custom ROMs come from XDA it's only right that I show credit
Yeah, you'd have to ask the owners. I don't know that they'd let you use their logo for a shop that they don't actually have any oversight with but it can't hurt to ask.
Yea If somebody had got the phone messed up or didn't like the service they might blame xda
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Yea If somebody had got the phone messed up or didn't like the service they might blame xda
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Anybody have any ideas what the liability would be? What happens when we (this store) bricks someones phone?
I think that liability makes it pretty cost prohibitive, even if it happens once in one thousand, even if it was going to break anyway and just happened to correspond with flashing.
I don't think an xda banner would really be a good idea. One wrong thing could blow up into something grand and the consumer would blame the entire xda community. As far as liability goes; I'm not sure how insurance companies would look at it but my idea was to keep a seperate pool of money. For any instances of someone's device messing up.
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I didnt mean it as an "XDA Shop" Just an advertisement of where the ROMs are from.
As far as problems go, the vast majority are reversable. Ive gotten my Play stuck in bootloops and soft-bricks innumerable times now and just having a copy of the stock firmware handy works wonders
Hey all,
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I had an idea a few weeks ago and decided to see if anyone would be interested in making this a reality.
Basically, I've been giving away free help to locals who are having issues with their android-based phones. Mostly it's factory resetting or telling people they can't use their Verizon phone on AT&T. But they really appreciate it because its a human interaction. I feel like one of those Mac geniuses (except I'm not trying to sell anything, my help is free, and I would like to think I know a little more about my product).
So the goal is to offer free tech support locally to anyone who buys an android phone. The idea being to compete with apple care, but make it a free service. I know a lot of you know a lot more than me about android, and there are times when I could use some help.
If anyone's interested in joining some sort of group dedicated to helping people with android locally, let me know! Hoping I'm not the only person who wants to help out the noobs
Thanks!
Ben
Ps - The way I started this was posting an ad on my local craigslist offering free tech support to anyone who owned an android. Gotten about 5 hits in the past week and I'm in a very rural area.
Bump. 157 views and no replies at all? Any thoughts at all about this idea?
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What happens when you hard brick their phone?
You fix it lol. I've done it. Just have to read before you jump into anything, all the info is out there (thanks I'm no small part to this site).
Also, update: just got our second member! Woo Think I'm going to organize this via Google + for now.
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Bump. Decided to try to run this through google+. Maybe that weird social network will end up being useful after all
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You fix it lol. I've done it. Just have to read before you jump into anything, all the info is out there (thanks I'm no small part to this site).
Also, update: just got our second member! Woo Think I'm going to organize this via Google + for now.
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Not always possible. What happens when you accidentally pull the cord out of the phone while flashing bootloaders (say, when upgrading a cappy to ICS). Or do you not mean that kind of help?
Herp derp Captivate Tapatalk 2
Ooh no, I do mean that kind of help. While I've never played with the captivate, I would imagine either be ready to fastboot or (easier) be really careful with other peoples' phones.
I think I've decided to scrap this project. While I have started to get a few locals interested recently, they really don't know enough to be useful without a lot of help, and after working full time, I just don't have enough energy for this. If someone else wants to take over the lead on this, I'd be happy to help, but I just can't take on this much extra responsibility right now.
And let's be honest, we've already got Android geniuses: our devs right here.
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There are many smart folks out there creating stuff for our phone, ROMs, Themes, Kernals, etc, all deserving of some cha-ching. I can think of 4 or 5 people I would like to support. However, I can't afford to properly give to them all. ,
What if there was a pool of money that us thankful receivers put into. Then, the developers themselves could decide how that money is distributed, sort of like a dividend from profits. But it would have to be phone/carrier specific. I don't want my funds going to AT&T phone guys....but the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 Development Consortium could decide that for themselves.
VSGS3DC....what you think?
I think this isn't development lol. And doesn't sound like a good idea. I say just donate to each developer u think helped out, even if it's a dollar or two, it will help them all.
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Not development and a good way to ruin a good thing, really if you want to make anything complicated attach sex or money to it and watch the drama unfold.
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Fail x2
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Can anyone think of even a worse idea and then post it in the dev section? lol
Way too confusing. Now the devs have to figure out how much in donations they get? Your just giving more work to the Devs. And it's going to lead to arguments and just suck...
Moved die to this not being development
With Lenovo's acquisition of Motorola Mobility, are we no longer going to receive updates? What's the future look like?
If Lenovo wants to make anything of it, they should be focusing on the updates for the newer phones and keeping the current customer base happy so we don't switch out to another company. Releasing new devices won't do much if people aren't happy with what we already have.
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I can't see them not updating these phones they are moto's flagships why would they not update them. They also have no other phones out that will compete with us at this time.
That's what I thought. I was harassed by a third-party retailer about Motorola not pushing anymore updates before they gave me the phone I kept asking for and they were almost forcing me to get a Samsung phone which I would absolutely HATE. It's like they know what's best for me, Samsungs are overrated and have poor quality anyways... I called BS and had to walk away but it got me wondering, "What if...?" Anyways, I guess they really don't have a reason to drop us so early.
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That's what I thought. I was harassed by a third-party retailer about Motorola not pushing anymore updates before they gave me the phone I kept asking for and they were almost forcing me to get a Samsung phone which I would absolutely HATE. It's like they know what's best for me, Samsungs are overrated and have poor quality anyways... I called BS and had to walk away but it got me wondering, "What if...?" Anyways, I guess they really don't have a reason to drop us so early.
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Yea if they want to make any sort of name for themselves they'll keep the updates coming and keep the existing customer base happy. Im pretty sure the deal hasn't fully gone through yet, so technically Google still owns Motorola for a little bit longer. Someone chime in if I'm wrong.
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Just my 2 cents but I kinda feel like our phones are losing love from not only the suppliers but the public. The devs losing interest cuz well most us on this forum are here cuz we like the exploits and rooting, being harder to accomplish that we see that community is just kinda saying screw it I got better things to do. I love the droid ultra and maxx, and I feel the Samsung line is a chick phone (just a personal feeling don't hate me for that remark) but saying that I also see the galaxy and note are booming with the exploits and possibilities. What if (my conspiracy theorists mode talking here) they wanna junk down the line of moto phones and lock em up tight so that we as consumers with that urge to break and root are only left to spend the extra cash to get Dev models lol
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@jayo Haha, I see Sammie's phones the same way! Anyways, Samsung doesn't try to lock down their phones like Moto has been since the Droid X days. And I think Motorola wants to aim at average consumers so interested devs should have to pay more which is kinda ridiculous since it's easier to produce a vulnerable bootloader. I wish Developer's Edition was available on contract, though. That tag is a huge hit... I'd rather pay it off over time.
Anyways...I thought the hardware was entitled to us? If we brick or screw up our phones, wouldn't that be good since we're spending more?
Hi All,
I've been debating on an M8 for a while. I'm coming from a Note 3 that cannot seem to hold a 4G signal even in very good LTE coverage areas. I am on my second Note 3 due to this issue. I really like the M8 and it's loud speakers and wouldn't mind a bit smaller screen overall compared to the Note 3. It seems the M8 can be had for a decent price so I just wondered if it's still a worthy purchase since it's about 7 months old now.
Also, do you think I'll get similar battery life to my Note 3 (about a day of moderate to heavy usage) with the M8? Anything I should be aware of before purchase? I don't root so I'll be using it as it comes from Verizon. My biggest hope is a better signal and radio reception as the Note 3 sucks. I never had such an issue with signal until I got the Note 3.
Thanks for the info,
Rob
The M8 still holds its own exceedingly well and I do believe it's still worthy of consideration. Namely due to the speakers which you just can't get that experience on any other phone, on Verizon at least.
As far as battery life goes, I'd label the M8 as an above average performer. I'm not sure if it will meet the same spec as the note 3 here, but it certainly is one of the longer lasting phones I've used. Expect 5-6 hours of constant on-screen LTE usage. It has been known to even last longer than the S5's slightly bigger 2800mah so HTC worked some magic in power management it seems.
I've not had signal issues with this phone but this is impossible to gauge on a case by case basis. Everyone lives in different areas with different signal strengths and will have different experiences with it.
Rooting is very possible through S-Off methods though I believe the current working method isn't free. The creators ask $25 for each unlock, which while not completely unreasonable could be a turn off to some.
That being said, in all honesty if it were me purchasing a new phone at this current time, I'd wait to see what the deal with the Nexus 6 and the Droid Turbo is. I probably wouldn't opt for the nexus 6 as I don't prefer to place tablets up to my face, but the turbo seems to be absolutely crazy if the rumors are true.
If you don't want to wait then I'd say the M8 should be up there with the G3, S5 and Note 4. It just comes down to your hardware priorities.
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I've been rooting and romming for years on 4 different devices and I gladly paid the $25 for sunshine. Think about how many times you have gotten a priceless app or mod for free...so you have to pay for one now - no biggie in my opinion. After all, you're getting something very special for the one-time fee of $25. Hey, it's nice to know it works, right? I bet if you ask ANYONE who owned the galaxy S4 on Verizon who ended up taking the OTA that locked their bootloaders (for what seems to be permanently...so far) if they'd pay the $25 to get the ability back, to flash a rom over their stock one, I bet they'd all say ABSOLUTELY!!!! So, I think we're lucky actually
Thanks for the replies. I actually don't have an interest in the new Droid Turbo, I really like the look and feel of the M8. I went to a store and played around with it today. I'm sold on this phone. It should be just as speedy as my Note 3 and last me for as long as I need it. I'm confident the battery will last me as well. The camera seems to be it's weakness but I don't take many pics anyway so it's not a big deal to me.
After looking at the rooting process for the phone I may even go that route and install the CleanROM as well. I have rooted before, way back in the original Droid days but a lot has changed since then. It appears to be rather simple so it'll be worth it to de-bloat the phone. Looking like I'll have one soon.
Thanks again,
Rob
Everyone I interact with loves my phone for its camera. It takes better pics than any iPhone that I've seen in action which discludes the Iphone6. I doubt the I6 is any better though. The M8 takes a more clear brighter correct picture by far than iPhone5.. So don't worry about camera at all you will love it for its camera.
I actually just gave up my note 3 for the m8.... And I couldnt be more happy..... And I believe you'll feel the same way...
Everything on the m8 seems to be better minus the camera. The sound I get from my car system via bluetooth from the m8 compared the note 3, no comparison. I'm a audiophile so that was a big plus for me.
I'm rooted and ROM on sinless had to sunshine. Worth every penny. Enjoy your m8!
What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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Firewater is free...but it has to work on your device. If it doesn't, Sunshine is your only option. Unless you know of another way.
I would gladly pay for S-off if I needed it. I used weaksauce for free when the M8 first came out. The developer that gave that to us is awesome and I feel that the m8 would be no fun without root. If you can find an exploit for free please let us know. But I doubt you will... @jcase is awesome and spent a good amount of time and he deserves to be credited.
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What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
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I would gladly pay for S-off if I needed it. I used weaksauce for free when the M8 first came out. The developer that gave that to us is awesome and I feel that the m8 would be no fun without root. If you can find an exploit for free please let us know. But I doubt you will... @jcase is awesome and spent a good amount of time and he deserves to be credited.
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Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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aw man. you dun goofed up bro......
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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hey man! i would like to personally thank you guys for your work! i got the m8 was searching around.... did some research and found out my m8 had the latest firmware.... was so bummed out. then i found sunshine! thank you again!
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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You shouldn't have to put up with crap like this.
I want your post read more so I am def. quoting it, and in the time, going to give my opinion, as I'm pretty pissed that someone considers what you guys provide scamming.
I personally thank you for all that you do for us, for everything, not even in just the HTC forums, but for Android..
Please know that one *to NOT get banned..* umm, person, doesn't speak for the group. Those of us that do appreciate what you do, and understand that it's very expensive and to be honest I think $25 is cheap, (I recall that being the price, when I saw it and felt that to be VERY fair, I know I'd personally pay more.) and I think you should of been charging sooner as in those root threads no one ever looks back but it doesn't seem like you guys get what you were promised. I bet you guys only got what? 30%-50%?
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but arggg..
I am hoping more people read and understand why charging is necessary.. especially if we want to all continue to have root in the future. We are blessed to have this option. Think about the price difference of buying the developer edition.. Sure, you can buy a device (if you are ready for contract upgrade), sell it and use that towards developer edition but I bet you end up paying more than $25 in the end.
Sh!t, I sure as hell know that if an option to unlock the Samsung S5 bootloader for $25 was around, I'd probably be on that device.
Went from a Galaxy Nexus, to a iPhone5s, to a Galaxy S4 ,and now to the HTC m8 last thursday. After 3 days, I can safely say this is hands down the best phone I've ever had. Running completely stock 4.4.3 this thing is fast, great battery life, i can have 10+ apps open and no slow down. Just make sure you enable the ART runtime and your golden.
I was going to look into rooting, flashing this thing but honestly its been so great I dont think I will until I get bored.....
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After looking at the rooting process for the phone I may even go that route and install the CleanROM as well. I have rooted before, way back in the original Droid days but a lot has changed since then. It appears to be rather simple so it'll be worth it to de-bloat the phone. Looking like I'll have one soon.
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I've been running CleanROM for the past several months, and I just have to say, you'll be very happy with it. It's not ENTIRELY as debloated as I would prefer, but that's easily fixed with TiBu (and I'm picky anyway, so your mileage may vary).
And as others have said, it's still a great device. I got mine at launch, and I couldn't be happier.
Disclaimer: The screen is hard (if not impossible) to see when you have polarized sunglasses on, so FYI. And it collects fingerprints like that's it's job.
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I've been running CleanROM for the past several months, and I just have to say, you'll be very happy with it. It's not ENTIRELY as debloated as I would prefer, but that's easily fixed with TiBu (and I'm picky anyway, so your mileage may vary).
And as others have said, it's still a great device. I got mine at launch, and I couldn't be happier.
Disclaimer: The screen is hard (if not impossible) to see when you have polarized sunglasses on, so FYI. And it collects fingerprints like that's it's job.
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Actually, there is a display panel lottery with the M8 regarding the sunglasses issue. My device exhibits this issue, but my friend's does not. His is also a little cooler color temperature wise. However this is a good point to bring up.
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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I agree that these developers deserve to get paid for their skill and time. It's just a shame that there are so many cheap ass people that wouldn't donate to the cause and help them out if the people that could have would have then people like me could enjoy an m8 instead of Hateing it. I'm about to sell this phone and go back to my l90. without root the Verizon version of this phone is so horrible and dont even get me started on the stock rom...hasn't HTC heard of a long press menu. It saddens me to see such a beautul piece of hardware reduced to such squalor by the Rom and provider, knowing that the ability to awaken it is just out of my wallets reach.
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Actually, there is a display panel lottery with the M8 regarding the sunglasses issue. My device exhibits this issue, but my friend's does not. His is also a little cooler color temperature wise. However this is a good point to bring up.
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Yeah, I've heard that once before, but only from one person, so I wasn't confident in the info. Good to know it's actually the case. And now I'm annoyed... >_<
personally i think jcase and beaups have the right model for this process.
bounty threads are nice and all, but people promise and don't pay and there is so much heartburn. releasing the app with payments baked in for unlocks makes the model so much more transparent, automatic and accountable. now devs can put their hard work into releasing their exploits and get paid in a clear way from us freeloaders without them having to wonder if their efforts will break even for them.
hey
jcase said:
No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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Hey I had to go the sunshine route also it did not bother me a bit and it worked absolutely wonderful I appreciate the ability to be able to even unlock this phone . The only thing that does suck is I did not do a better physical cosmetic inspection of my M8 before I paid for the sunshine . The upper camera is glued off-center to the case and drives me insane they are sending another one this time I will be sure to more thoroughly inspect it before spending for another unlock .. Believe me I have gotten a lot of things for free from the site and I have no problem chopping off a piece to have a fully unlocked cell phone on Verizon it rocks.. As far as these developers go I know that I have used Jcase exploits over on the Kindle fire HDX ... The device which severely saddens me I had bought two more of them hearing of the Bootloader unlock .... Waited and waited then heard of that bad news . Which I understand all that it just does not make it suck any less .. I would've been happy to pay in a similar manner as this works .. Damn the Man and the fine print. Thanks again jcase and beaups, and all such developers that devote their free time that allows us to enjoy our playtime since this is my first HTC device time to learn how to return to stock and S-on LOL uhg oh but anyway ,i love this phone, coming from Loki,verizon32gbS4 this has much better radio reception and clarity in places where the S4 would not pick up at all and yes the speakers rock. . .
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personally i think jcase and beaups have the right model for this process.
bounty threads are nice and all, but people promise and don't pay and there is so much heartburn. releasing the app with payments baked in for unlocks makes the model so much more transparent, automatic and accountable. now devs can put their hard work into releasing their exploits and get paid in a clear way from us freeloaders without them having to wonder if their efforts will break even for them.
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jcase said:
No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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It makes me uncomfortable seeing you have to explain yourself, you shouldn't have to! Anyone who complains do not deserve it cause they would never donate anyway. I feel like it is way worth a good donation and having it free lets us off the hook, we have had plenty for free it is way past time to give back! I thought it felt great to pay the $25 and when I had to I couldn't help but not think twice! Anyone who can afford this phone can afford your great contribution.