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(Q) Why SGS2 better than tab play movies

Hello why sgs2 better than transformer or tegra 2 with playing movies ?
I just tried mkv + some mp4 bdrip in transformer they don't work well lag too much
And I tried same movies in my phone sgs2 with same player I used in transformer they all work well and smooth look like I'm watching from pc what the problem ? Is the problem with tegra 2 ?
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Please take a look at the screen resolution between each device... there's your answer.

akarol said:
Please take a look at the screen resolution between each device... there's your answer.
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I dont think its that simple, if the video is encoded at 720p and is of a large size and bitrate it should still be as challenging to play, even if its not using all of the reso.
The bigger question is who is playing it? Is the app really optimized to be running on the dual core tegra? I havent had a chance to because my TF isnt arriving tomorrow but I handbraked some 720p files that i have run through my Evo with no problems so we shall see how the recoded videos work with the stock player compared to MKVs through a 3rd party player.

Also are both running off the same SD card.
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Because Exynos is superior to Tegra 2.

Segnaro said:
Because Exynos is superior to Tegra 2.
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Still blows my mind that they're going to use Tegra 2 in the Galaxy 10.1 tablet.

redshirt72 said:
Still blows my mind that they're going to use Tegra 2 in the Galaxy 10.1 tablet.
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Samsung said they couldn't produce enough Exynos so even some of their SGS2 phone have to switch to Tegra 2. That's why the 10.1 can't get the Exynos

I dont know about the sgs2, but my Epic has built in Divx codex for playing video. The Tf may not have the same codec pack or asus is usiing some proprietary software that isnt utilizing the tegra well.

Its not about the res I think tegra 2 is a joke cuz its really slow if u compare it with sgs 2 prossesor I wish samsung change its plan with there tab and make there new tabs with better cpu
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The tegra 2 is a joke? Well, mines sailing along at 1.6ghz right now and makes all the previously mentioned look bad. Unhappy with your transformer or galaxy tab?
Buy a Xoom
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Its ok I'm not unhappy with my transformer but I feel bad that's it can't open movies smooth as my phone , I want to watch movie on it when I travil
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akarol said:
Please take a look at the screen resolution between each device... there's your answer.
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It would take more work to decode a 720p video and reencode it at a lower resolution on the fly. It's the tegra 2 and honeycomb combo. Tegra 2 can handle 1080p just not high profile h264.

ryan stewart said:
I dont think its that simple, if the video is encoded at 720p and is of a large size and bitrate it should still be as challenging to play, even if its not using all of the reso.
The bigger question is who is playing it? Is the app really optimized to be running on the dual core tegra? I havent had a chance to because my TF isnt arriving tomorrow but I handbraked some 720p files that i have run through my Evo with no problems so we shall see how the recoded videos work with the stock player compared to MKVs through a 3rd party player.
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I saw this in a YouTube review. The TF had studdery video and the Xoom did not. They both have Tegra 2 processors so I don't think these the problem.
I'm personally hoping its software related and crossing my fingers that HC 3.1 will solve the problem.
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optimus 3d vs galaxy s2 Comparison

here a Comparison between these two giants - but i have surprised when he played the flash clips on both - look at the 3:01 and give your opinion why it's too choppy on O3d ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUnqYDRKlQE

Old firmware, my one is smooth

@ik911 Are you able to play Youtube 1080p vidz smoothly? On mine which is running on may software it runs choppy. Thanks.
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largo79 said:
@ik911 Are you able to play Youtube 1080p vidz smoothly? On mine which is running on may software it runs choppy. Thanks.
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yes it's smooth but why would you want to play 1080p videos on a phone?

Can't be smooth at 1080p, only GS2 can, at the moment

Owning a GS2 also I have tried lots of 1080 and 720 and really on such a small screen you really can't tell much difference in quality.

you can't notice difference between 480p to 720p and 1080p on the phone

Of course the screen on our phone is 480p (800x480) so any higher is a bit useless

nic85 said:
Can't be smooth at 1080p, only GS2 can, at the moment
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Did you try it yourself? Cause I did, Big Buck Bunny 1080p and Avatar 1080p trailer both run smooth as silk. There are video's on Youtube showing the O3D playing high profile 4.1 720p mkv and 1080p mkv which is pretty impressive in my opinion. Haven't tried playing 1080p mkv myself yet but will today.
The GS2 is an incredible phone but not the only one that can do incredible things anymore.

yes...we are all referring 1080p IN FLASH CONTENT,SO DURING THE NAVIGATION WITH THE BROWSER...Not with a dedicated player...

nic85 said:
yes...we are all referring 1080p IN FLASH CONTENT,SO DURING THE NAVIGATION WITH THE BROWSER...Not with a dedicated player...
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Largo79 asked "@ik911 Are you able to play Youtube 1080p vidz smoothly?" to which ik911 replied he could and then you said only GS2 should be able to. Now I could be wrong and you didn't directly reply to ik911 but I got the impression you did so I just told you Youtube 1080p content does play smooth on my O3D.
NO NEED TO SHOUT LIKE AN IDIOT over something like that...

you are an idiot instead..
read carefully his post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15305351&postcount=1
look the video,and find out that he was talking about flash video on youtube site hahaha

To OP my bad it don't work. this might be due to android 2.2
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nic85 said:
you are an idiot instead..
read carefully his post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15305351&postcount=1
look the video,and find out that he was talking about flash video on youtube site hahaha
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Right, you clearly have no idea what I was replying to so I'm not gonna bother having this discussion with you.
I have no trouble playing embedded video, playing more than two at a time like in that review does make the players choppy which could be a Froyo vs. Gingerbread issue or just a raw power issue but who would play multiple embedded video's anyway on such a small screen (or any screen for that matter)?

Someone asked whats the point of playing 1080p on a small screen? Well when u have ur phone connected to an HDTV then it comes in handy being able to play 1080p or 720p videos
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largo79 said:
Someone asked whats the point of playing 1080p on a small screen? Well when u have ur phone connected to an HDTV then it comes in handy being able to play 1080p or 720p videos
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good point to mention

1080p YouTube lag?

I have lag when i try to play a 1080p youtube video on the desktop YouTube site. The og galaxy s 2 doesn't haven't this problem any ideas?
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What video player do you use to stream youtube videos at 1080p in your smartphone?

jbecerril said:
What video player do you use to stream youtube videos at 1080p in your smartphone?
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watching it in the web browser on the full site and changing it to 1080p

joeyzadoe said:
watching it in the web browser on the full site and changing it to 1080p
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Yeah I have the Samsung Infuse and I use Opera Mobile Browser ( best browser ever) & I have probs with 1080p as well viewing in dt mode 720p works perfectly for me....
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Keltisch WerWolf said:
Yeah I have the Samsung Infuse and I use Opera Mobile Browser ( best browser ever) & I have probs with 1080p as well viewing in dt mode 720p works perfectly for me....
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with the infuse i can understand but from a dual core? anyone else having this problem?

problem existed on the atrix. is there a device that doesn't have problems with it?

Pardon my ignorance... but why would we need 1080p on our phones? they can't display the lines, or does it actually still look better? Less Grainy?
on the desktop I don't notice anything higher than 720 as I have a 720TV.

Should I buy the Transformer?

Hi guys!
I'm planning to buy the TF101, but I'm not sure about a couple of things.
Can it actually play 1080p videos? Or 1080p YouTube videos? Is the YouTube app streams over 1080p?
Or we must open the browser if we want to watch it in high resolution?
How many hours it usually lasts with watching videos?
Is it fine with the stock ICS, or I have to switch ROMs in order to get a decent tablet?
I would greatly appreciate an input from those who have the TF101.

If u buying new, rather get something else, ics is a hit n miss on the tf101 at the moment, and asus don't seem close to fixing it honestly
I've got one, no serious issues with mine, I enjoy it
Not sure about the video playback
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mayurh said:
If u buying new, rather get something else, ics is a hit n miss on the tf101 at the moment, and asus don't seem close to fixing it honestly
I've got one, no serious issues with mine, I enjoy it
Not sure about the video playback
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Hi!
Thanks for your answer. Could you please explain what do you mean by "hit and miss"? I thought all TF101 got ICS OTA.

to tell you the truth i traded my ps vita for tf101 and never looked back this thing is awsome even on stock it was good with 4.0.3 had no probs then after root cwm custom rom and kernel this thing flys and is buddery smoth would recomend it to anyone as ive had no probs with mine.

xstokerx said:
to tell you the truth i traded my ps vita for tf101 and never looked back this thing is awsome even on stock it was good with 4.0.3 had no probs then after root cwm custom rom and kernel this thing flys and is buddery smoth would recomend it to anyone as ive had no probs with mine.
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Can you play 1080p videos on it? Youtube?
I can't wait to have it, but these things stop me right now.
Does it have a USB host option?

Soniboy84 said:
Can you play 1080p videos on it? Youtube?
I can't wait to have it, but these things stop me right now.
Does it have a USB host option?
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It will play hd youtube(720p i think) however the playback is not great, actual image quality is pretty good but as soon as there is any sort of fast moving action it starts to skip a second here, a second there Really annoying as it is a priority for me also. The last firmware update was supposed to have fixed this issue but seems to have made little difference. Have finally got round to rooting and am now searching for a rom that has sorted the issue. Its not a bad tab apart from this though and if you can get it at the right price there really isnt much wrong with it
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Soniboy84 said:
Can you play 1080p videos on it? Youtube?
I can't wait to have it, but these things stop me right now.
Does it have a USB host option?
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Mine plays 1080p YouTube just fine I'm on revolution hd rom with a custom kernel I can't remember witch one but it's not over clocked.
What's usb host? I've never used it is that Internet though usb.?

Soniboy84 said:
Can you play 1080p videos on it? Youtube?
I can't wait to have it, but these things stop me right now.
Does it have a USB host option?
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I've seen reviews on youtube on thisndevice and the poeple were able to play 1080p videos without ptoblemz.
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I personaly would get the nexus 7
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Lazeeboy85 said:
It will play hd youtube(720p i think) however the playback is not great, actual image quality is pretty good but as soon as there is any sort of fast moving action it starts to skip a second here, a second there Really annoying as it is a priority for me also. The last firmware update was supposed to have fixed this issue but seems to have made little difference. Have finally got round to rooting and am now searching for a rom that has sorted the issue. Its not a bad tab apart from this though and if you can get it at the right price there really isnt much wrong with it
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xstokerx said:
Mine plays 1080p YouTube just fine I'm on revolution hd rom with a custom kernel I can't remember witch one but it's not over clocked.
What's usb host? I've never used it is that Internet though usb.?
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Thanks guys!
That's what I was afraid of. That I'll not get it without putting a new rom on it.
Well, that means I have to look for something else
Usb host is basically USB on-the go. I know the keyboard has it, but I wasn't sure about the tablet itself.

The nexus 7 looks awsome and has killer specs and a price tag u can't beat. But I'm just new to the TF and I love it not one regret.

xstokerx said:
The nexus 7 looks awsome and has killer specs and a price tag u can't beat. But I'm just new to the TF and I love it not one regret.
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I know. That's my other option. It's a shame a 7" might be too small.
Can you tell if I can fit it on my future excercise bike handle? :laugh:
I mean like...literally!

Soniboy84 said:
I know. That's my other option. It's a shame a 7" might be too small.
Can you tell if I can fit it on my future excercise bike handle? :laugh:
I mean like...literally!
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i have no idea lol ya it is a shame the nexus is a 7 and not a 10 inch screen

My issue with the nexus 7 is it does not have the rear camera and is a bit small
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Choppy video performance

Did anyone notice a choppy video playback using YouTube app on the N5?. I tried my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 playing HD videos on youtube , it is choppy on my N5 where it is smooth on my N4.I did not try other video players.
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kojaraty said:
Did anyone notice a choppy video playback using YouTube app on the N5?. I tried my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 playing HD videos on youtube , it is choppy on my N5 where it is smooth on my N4.I did not try other video players.
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Yeah, that's what I notice too. I mean, the video looks stunning, but it doesn't seem to be running smoothly at all.
I ran it side by side with my iPhone 4S, and my iPhone played the video much smoother overall. I thought I was just seeing thing until it reached one part in the video where the same kid in the video raising his hand to point at the sky. The arm movement right there was noticeably unnatural in the Nexus 5, compare to my iPhone 4S's playback.
Does anyone know an app that can show you what the currently playing video's fps is?

I have not experienced this... well I haven't notice it if it is choppy
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beaver2233 said:
I have not experienced this... well I haven't notice it if it is choppy
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Do you have any other smartphones that is capable of playing youtube videos? Pull the same video up across both both phones and start the playback at the same time.
Better yet, compare it against your PC browser.

beaver2233 said:
I have not experienced this... well I haven't notice it if it is choppy
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Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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kojaraty said:
Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Can confirm that that video is much choppier on the Nexus 5 compared to the Nexus 4. No idea why. Doesn't make any sense.

muyoso said:
Can confirm that that video is much choppier on the Nexus 5 compared to the Nexus 4. No idea why. Doesn't make any sense.
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I hope it's just some optimization problem that can be fixed with software update(s). I'd really hate to return this phone back, but it's quite a deal-breaker for someone like me who uses the phone as an on-the-go multimedia player.
Are there any alternative apps that can play HD youtube videos smoothly?

Duplicated said:
I hope it's just some optimization problem that can be fixed with software update(s). I'd really hate to return this phone back, but it's quite a deal-breaker for someone like me who uses the phone as an on-the-go multimedia player.
Are there any alternative apps that can play HD youtube videos smoothly?
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Sometimes these issues are also caused by user settings like what and how many apps or widgets running in the background, Google syncronisation interval and what apps connect to the internet etc etc.

kojaraty said:
Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'll try it and test it on my S4 and N5 once I get near wifi.
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kojaraty said:
Try watching this video and let me know how it runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2L2UGZJAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Just tested it on mine. It is slightly choppy, but not very noticeable.
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Vertron said:
Just tested it on mine. Very smooth, not choppy at all.
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Maybe my phone is defective then...? I already closed all apps running in the background and tested it again, still stuttering

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Maybe my phone is defective then...? I already closed all apps running in the background and tested it again, still stuttering
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I don't think its defective. I believe all the devices have the same issue. We just have to wait for a software fix.
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kojaraty said:
I don't think its defective. I believe all the devices have the same issue. We just have to wait for a software fix.
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Well, there are people like me and you who notice the "stuttering" (I wouldn't call it choppy, because still frames are just as clear as my 4S). Then, there are others that say it does not stutter even in the slightest.
I don't know what to believe in anymore.

Maybe the YouTube app isn`t fully optimsed for KitKat yet.

hmm I can only just notice it - though if I wasn't looking for it I doubt I'd notice it
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Probably a good test would be download the video using for example tubemate, then play the local copy this would help determine whether network latencies are contributing to any lags or if caused by decoding the video if it occurs when local copy.
Then try hw vs Sw decoding.
Will test when I ve got time.
My preferred video player is MX player that currently doesn't run on kit kat
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paul_59 said:
My preferred video player is MX player that currently doesn't run on kit kat
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I thought they updated it?
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yeah its very stuttery. Whats worse the youtube app doesn't seem to be able to get 1080p and 720 upscaled looks atrocious. Playing the same video on my 2 year old One XL and this phone, the Nexus is so much worse in terms of stutter, upscaling and color that I'm very disappointed at the moment.

beaver2233 said:
I thought they updated it?
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You're correct, I hadn't noticed
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paul_59 said:
Probably a good test would be download the video using for example tubemate, then play the local copy this would help determine whether network latencies are contributing to any lags or if caused by decoding the video if it occurs when local copy.
Then try hw vs Sw decoding.
Will test when I ve got time.
My preferred video player is MX player that currently doesn't run on kit kat
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Sure it does. I installed it yesterday and it runs beautifully!