[Q] Strange WIFI behavior - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

So I'm seeing a bit of some strange wifi behavior on my AT&T One X. I have the wifi sleep policy set to always on. I've checked this many times. What I'm seeing is that at night the wifi is shutting down. The phone is not charging (I'm seeing what kind of battery life I can get). Past two nights it has done this. During the day this doesn't happen. I pick the phone up off my desk and wifi is still connected. The other strange thing is that I'm not getting any notifications during that time either. When I wake up the phone in the morning, there are no email notifications or anything. But as soon as the wifi connects I start getting them... Needless to say, battery life at night is stupendous. I lost ~3% in about 7 hrs last night. But I'm wondering why it is doing this... Is there some setting I don't know about? Anyone else seeing this at all?

Search through the forum for threads about wifi bugs. I believe lots of people (including me) are seeing the issue you mentioned and/or similar issues.

chrikenn said:
Search through the forum for threads about wifi bugs. I believe lots of people (including me) are seeing the issue you mentioned and/or similar issues.
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I did some searching but didn't see anything quite like this, but I probably just missed it. In all honesty, since it only seems to happen while I'm sleeping I'm inclined to see this more as a feature than a bug! hahahaha I'll look some more and see what I can find I guess.

supercluver said:
I did some searching but didn't see anything quite like this, but I probably just missed it. In all honesty, since it only seems to happen while I'm sleeping I'm inclined to see this more as a feature than a bug! hahahaha I'll look some more and see what I can find I guess.
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I'm starting to think all of these bugs are just ways HTC is trying to save battery life. Turning wifi off at night, increasing wifi scan interval, killing background apps, etc.

Cryosx said:
I'm starting to think all of these bugs are just ways HTC is trying to save battery life. Turning wifi off at night, increasing wifi scan interval, killing background apps, etc.
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I'm also thinking the same thing....

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Problems with HTC S710

After reading some forum threads, I couldnt find any answers to my two main problems.
First of all, the battery life is horrible. After a day of medium usage the battery has to be recharged. I was trying many different things, but nothing would do any difference in battery life. I have been reading about 2-3 days of battery life. No way. Not with my device.
Isnt there anyone who has traced the problem? Is there any fix I dont know about?
Second, what is this light sensor supposed to do? There dosnt seem to be any difference having it on or off in the settings tab, nor is there any difference in various light conditions. I could hold the device in perfect dark or under a 100 Watt light, there dosnt change anything. I was wondering if this is some bug, fault or not implemented feature. A light sensor is supposed to control the keypad backlight. Am i wrong?
One last thing. Is there any setting to control the brightness setting of the device?
Thanks for your help and time.
1. battery life is great for me. have you installed any software that is doing stuff all the time ? have you changed any power settings ?
2. light sensor is only for keypad light. keypad light will not come on in bright conditions.
I don't think there is any setting for screen brightness (I have been looking all over the place). Would be a good thing for HTC to get out in the next firmware release.
First of all thank you for your reply. As it appears, the light sensor does
work as intended after doing some cleaning around the area of it.
Cant think of any reason for this as the device was never really used
outside or under heavy conditions. The battery life however still is
nowhere near good. No programs were installed at all. I did a hard
reset and avoided to install anything till I get some hold on this issue.
As for screen brightness, you are right. There are no settings to be
found in the menu and nothing seems to be posted around the web.
Any other suggestions?
I have had many pda phones. the difference is that they are full computers and can do alot more then normal phones but never have the battery life.
I have never got more then 2 days from any pda/phone, inc. nokia s60s which are supposed to have have good battery life.
I am getting around 3 days from the htc s710. This is with a few calls every day and around 30mins wifi. Although I recharge every 2 days otherwise its on 1 bar for the end of the third day which is disconcerting.
If you are getting less then this on moderate usage it might have a fault. Presumably you have it under guarantee.
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
How is your reception? Bad reception could be a reason for bad battery life.
Isn't the N73 a 3G phone and maybe you have better 3G reception than GSM?
Just a theory...
...i get 60 hours after the 3rd charging circle with bluetooth on all the time and two push mail accounts (company exchange server and windows live mobile push, push is active between 7 am and midnight), some phone calls and web sessions. thats absolutely acceptable.
cheers, lutz
htc-s710
same here friends
bluetooth and 1 exchange over gprs and wifi open all the time
nice battery life.
msaw said:
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
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I have found a bug in the power settings.
Quick qu. (before I tell you what it is)
- have you ever changed the power settings (i.e. screen shut down)
- does your screen switch off (It will always dim - but does it switch off completely) ?
rgds
msaw said:
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
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n73 is known for having an above average battery life, so expecting the s710 to be anywhere close to that is asking for dissapointment
I have an E650 and have bluetooth on all day syncd with my tom tom for handsfree calling. Spend about 3 hours a day on the phone, send about 30 txts. if battery is fully charged before i go out i'll have at least 60% left by the time i go to bed. The battery life beats the old xda exec I used to have hands down, so no complaints from me.
colonel said:
I have found a bug in the power settings.
Quick qu. (before I tell you what it is)
- have you ever changed the power settings (i.e. screen shut down)
- does your screen switch off (It will always dim - but does it switch off completely) ?
rgds
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Yes, I have changed the power settings.
Yes the screen switches off after the set period of time.
msaw said:
Yes, I have changed the power settings.
Yes the screen switches off after the set period of time.
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But, screen switches off or backlight switches off...is different!
Byee
Sky_Lab said:
But, screen switches off or backlight switches off...is different!
Byee
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Backlight switches off. I cant see anything on the screen, its going black.
Cant comment if its just the backlight or the screen as well.
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\ value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
rademaar said:
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\ value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
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Dear rademaar, I appreciate you advice and help, but I havent ever installed
or used TomTom. While I think that others programs might as well alter
some registry settings and be the cause of the problem, I have to say that we
are talking about a Hard-Reseted, no software-installed Vox here wich cant do
more than a day without charge.
Someone stated that the GSM coverage might be the cause of the problem.
I am starting to think that this might be possible.
rademaar said:
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
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I did however check the value you mentioned, and it appears that I dont have
any values inside "\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\", it goes deeper into
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\LockLevel" value display gives key "Locklevel=0".
Do you suggest to alter this value or create a new one?
if you backlight is turning off (after dimming), then its not the cause of any issue.
the backlight issue is comprehensively covered here:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=254042
BIG WIFI problem..
Hi, I have just bought it and after trying the wifi (while the phone was charging) I encountered in a problem. First connection ok, then I disable the connection tries again and the wifi status was always connecting...
So I reboot the phone and now I have no wifi status and it say to me that the driver is not loaded!!!!!
impossible to connect to wifi.
I have already done a clean of the system but it still dont work.
No program has been installet yet!
thank you for your help
Problem w/Vox Keyboard - Anyone Else?
Hey all...
First I want to qualify this post by saying that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SMARTPHONE! I've finally found the convergence of one-handed use w/a full keyboard that does all my contact/appointment tracking, emails, etc.
Now...my problem: I've had the phone about 30 days now, and just last week have had problems with the backspace, carriage-return, shift, function and space keys on the QWERTY keyboard. They will just stop responding in the middle of typing (doesn't matter if it's a message, email, calendar notes, etc.) The only way I can fix the problem is to slightly close & reopen the keypad with a little flex-pressure on either end of the phone.
Luckily Mobile Planet will exchange the phone for me with no charge, but I was just wondering if anyone else was having this problem.

I am the only one with a phone with no bugs?

Maybe it's because I upgraded from an ancient AT&T Tilt (not Tilt II!) and this phone is just so much better that I don't notice the flaws.
But every post on here where people mention some bug or another and Mine does not have said bug.
My GPS works, even in the house (which I thought was not possible, because the GPS signal isn't supposed to go through walls)
My Battery lasts from 9:30 am until midnight with downloads, music, calls, video, browsing, and facebook. I have all of the default battery saving options.
My accelerometer/gyro work perfectly.
Please tell me I'm not the only one, because I am so happy with this phone, and it would be a shame if so many people where having problems that it became a flop.
Just my take on it. It is a new phone so there is still a lot of "unknown" about the phone. Also, if you go to any kind of forum like this you usually see a lot of issue/help threads rather than praise threads. Its just the way it is.
I got mine yesterday.. and love the hell out of it.. No problems at all so far, and have not been able to put it down. hahaha
Mine is great
I love my phone and have had no problems at all. and I love swpe, I almost forgot how to type
Jon
@TWiG420 I'm with you on that one.
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I upgraded from a touch diamond and this phone is beastly or I just waited too long to upgrade
I did have a GPS problem though, it wouldnt lock on in like 15 minutes, but I changed the settings and I get a lock pretty fast now.
Lag? None. Touchwiz? Decent, and less choppy than launcherpro!
Phone is real good.
They sold almost a million Galaxy S devices before even launching in the states, and the only 'common' problem I have seen that is not obviously software is the GPS issues. But it seems like most can change around a few settings and be fine.
Most if not all of my issues are because I do not know android. Once one or two software updates come out (or cooks make some nice custom roms with bug fixes) most if not all problems I think will vanish.
Nope
No problems, except for the GPS issue. But I live in NYC, and the buildings have always been an issue when trying to connect to the satellites with any device. Anyway, with that said, no issues with the phone/settings/performance etc. at all.
asrrin29 said:
Maybe it's because I upgraded from an ancient AT&T Tilt (not Tilt II!) and this phone is just so much better that I don't notice the flaws.
But every post on here where people mention some bug or another and Mine does not have said bug.
My GPS works, even in the house (which I thought was not possible, because the GPS signal isn't supposed to go through walls)
My Battery lasts from 9:30 am until midnight with downloads, music, calls, video, browsing, and facebook. I have all of the default battery saving options.
My accelerometer/gyro work perfectly.
Please tell me I'm not the only one, because I am so happy with this phone, and it would be a shame if so many people where having problems that it became a flop.
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I'll one-up you, I unplug my phone at 6:30 AM when I am about to leave for work and didn't plug it in until it started complaining at me 28 hours later. Thats pretty darn good given the screen size and the fact that I was using wifi and 3G throughout the day.
Coming from a Iphone 3g.
Got my Captivate on Tuesday. Rooted it, took off the junk. Mine is running great even with no new launcher and live backround. GPS works great too.
No bugs here and phone is way faster then any other phone I have ever used.
Mine is running great too. Maybe it's because I'm not a perfectionist, but I love my phone after removing touchwiz it's even faster too.
So far, so good. Any "issues" can be traced back to my ignorance of an Android-based phone, but being a persistent sort I've either figured out the answers myself or by trolling forums. I would venture a guess that most listed problems relate to:
1. Unrealistic expectations that this new phone should behave the same way, or very similar to an older phone, e.g., number of bars should equal previous phone's number of bars and stuff like that.
2. The results of newbies futzing within the depths of the phone without recognizing the potential consequences of their actions should they screw up.
3. Glitches or wishes that will be addressed in updates.
4. Real problems that can be rectified by a swap within the 30 days.
5. Imagined problems that can be rectified by a reality check.
...and so on.
In any event, I have high expectations and this phone has certainly come close to meeting them.
Now if I can just not drop it before I get a case. If it's not in my pocket I find myself holding it like it's an egg.
Jack45 said:
Now if I can just not drop it before I get a case. If it's not in my pocket I find myself holding it like it's an egg.
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Hahah, I find myself doing the same exact thing! Curse my cheapness in choosing super shipper savings! I still have at least a week before I see my case.
Jack45 said:
If it's not in my pocket I find myself holding it like it's an egg.
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I cant keep it in my pocket. I'm too busy playing with it.
TWiG420 said:
I cant keep it in my pocket. I'm too busy playing with it.
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not to be that guy, but that's what she said lol

Please advise. Captivate issues galore...

Hi all. I just got a Captivate after using Mattc on my HD2 and I used an Aria for a couple weeks as well. I used Mattc on the HD2 for a couple months and really liked it. I understood it was running from the SD and lived with the other issues like slow wake up and occasional goofiness.
So when I got my Captivate I was thinking, wow, I'll have one of(if not the) fastest Android phone on it's native hardware. Everything should rock. I should be blown away... Not.
HELP!
The brightness settings. WTF! Why did they implement like 10 ways the brightness screws with your day. On my HD2 w/Mattc I set the brightness in settings to where I wanted and it stayed. Forever. Also when it hits 10% it kicks the brightness all the way down. 10%? Com on maybe 5%. But what is worse is when it does kick it down I kick it back up but it dims again at every percent it goes down. ANNOYING. Please let me control my phone... Oh and don't get me started on the Browser brightness. Huh? Even with the browser brightness set at max it's still dimmer than my regular brightness setting. Noticably. I only keep my brightness at like 75-80% too.
Also what the hell is with the lame Calendar notification settings? Are there any?
My question is this. Is there any ROM out there that will strip all that Samsung ideology and give me a stock Android experience. Especially without the brightness issues. Why do I need to slide my notification bar to change brightness? All it does for me is just cause my brightness to vary accidentally when I don't want it to.
Why must I add on programs for my Calendar alerts to function normally? Why?
So again. Is there a ROM out there that will strip all the Samsung goofiness? If I can't get this phone to work like I want I'm going to sell it and look for a Telus HTC Desire to use on ATT. HTC phones are the best man. IMHO
Thanks.
juiceppc said:
The brightness settings. WTF! Why did they implement like 10 ways the brightness screws with your day. On my HD2 w/Mattc I set the brightness in settings to where I wanted and it stayed. Forever. Also when it hits 10% it kicks the brightness all the way down. 10%? Com on maybe 5%. But what is worse is when it does kick it down I kick it back up but it dims again at every percent it goes down. ANNOYING. Please let me control my phone... Oh and don't get me started on the Browser brightness. Huh? Even with the browser brightness set at max it's still dimmer than my regular brightness setting. Noticably. I only keep my brightness at like 75-80% too.
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Turn off auto brightness and pick a setting you like. Done.
Also what the hell is with the lame Calendar notification settings? Are there any?
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I don't know what lame is, but I use my Google calendar and I can set notifications. I get notified. Is there a specific problem you have?
My question is this. Is there any ROM out there that will strip all that Samsung ideology and give me a stock Android experience. Especially without the brightness issues. Why do I need to slide my notification bar to change brightness? All it does for me is just cause my brightness to vary accidentally when I don't want it to.
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There is no stock Android experience. Android is just the core - Samsung, HTC, etc, they all add specific things in order for their specific hardware to function. If you don't want what comes on your AT&T Captivate, then you can root and uninstall the apps you don't like, flash one of the many, many cooked ROMs available on this forum (just look around - they are everywhere, and all with great pictures and descriptions and huge threads full of information), tweak settings to your heart's content, or anything else you want to do.
Why must I add on programs for my Calendar alerts to function normally? Why?
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I don't have any add-ons and I get my alerts. What exactly isn't working for you?
Auto brightness has been off. First thing I do-
I do not get audible alerts when a Calendar reminder goes off-(and there is no where in settings to change/check this)
I had to install "Calendar Snooze" to play an audible alert for a Calendar reminder-
Phone is at 10% now fully dimmed. Nice... Considering how bad the battery life is for this phone(for me) I'll be spending a lot of time with the screen fully dimmed.
juiceppc said:
Auto brightness has been off. First thing I do-
I do not get audible alerts when a Calendar reminder goes off-(and there is no where in settings to change/check this)
I had to install "Calendar Snooze" to play an audible alert for a Calendar reminder-
Phone is at 10% now fully dimmed. Nice... Considering how bad the battery life is for this phone(for me) I'll be spending a lot of time with the screen fully dimmed.
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Try reading a little and you will see you can set the brightness at where you want it by un-checking the automatic brightness setting..Then you can swipe along the status bar to raise and lower the brightness..It will stay where you had it set IF the automatic brightness is unchecked..Where you have the slider at will be the brightest it will swipe to..
Set your alerts to something you can hear and turn up the volume..They work fine.
Battery life is not a issue provided you follow some advise..Bump charge it 1 time and then use it till it drains down to single digits before recharging...also make sure you back out of all programs and turn off wi-fi and gps and syncing when you don't need them. Loose any task killer program you have and run it stock..you will find your battery life is excellent..if not you may or may not have a bad battery..Lastly..if you are really dissatisfied with it..take it back..
Good Luck
Mac
In regards to the brightness, turn off auto brightness and the 'power saving option.', that should solve your issue.
As far as removing the AT&T bloatware goes, try Unleash the beast.
If you want to run Froyo try flashing a rom, I used the latest version of Cognition.
Run far away from this phone if you still have the chance.
MikeyMike01 said:
Run far away from this phone if you still have the chance.
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Broad-brush damnations do nothing to help anyone.
Mac11700 said:
Try reading a little and you will see you can set the brightness at where you want it by un-checking the automatic brightness setting..Then you can swipe along the status bar to raise and lower the brightness..It will stay where you had it set IF the automatic brightness is unchecked..Where you have the slider at will be the brightest it will swipe to..
Set your alerts to something you can hear and turn up the volume..They work fine.
Battery life is not a issue provided you follow some advise..Bump charge it 1 time and then use it till it drains down to single digits before recharging...also make sure you back out of all programs and turn off wi-fi and gps and syncing when you don't need them. Loose any task killer program you have and run it stock..you will find your battery life is excellent..if not you may or may not have a bad battery..Lastly..if you are really dissatisfied with it..take it back..
Good Luck
Mac
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Thanks for the advice. Although I have done all of those things. I'm kind of coming to one real main pain point that I can't seem to solve. The screen dimming at 10%. Does anyone know how to disable that? Even if I kick the brightness back up after it dims at 10% it will redim at 9% and so on...
Bitter. But hopeful.
Picsman said:
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Unfortunately, running away from this phone does seem to be good advise. It doesn't mater how slick it is in theory. Uber display and kickass hardware are useless if the basic functionality suffers due to glitches most of the other options don't seem to exibit.
I decided to play the "mod and wait" game with this thing, and I'm regretting it. Broad-brush damnations would have helped me. At this point, enough issues have came up about this hardware that a "broad-brush" sticky may be warranted. The alert issues found by the OP, may be related to his speaker begining to fail. I had a similar issue. Calander and alarm notifications began failing in some apps, but not others. The phone would still ring. Some apps could still use the speaker. Within a week, nothing could use the speaker, and I had to do the "push-on-it" fix.
It's a forum. Posts are opinions. I've been impressed occasionally by the raw performance of this phone. Yet, I've also spent hours, hours, researching problems, applying fixes, flashing, pushing on the speaker, etc. And I've spent hours "waiting" for the thing to do something simple like send an email when it did fine the day before. With as much time and effort as I've put into researching and working on this phone, I feel like I (and others) have not gotten enough stability out of it.
I propose a broad brush damnation for this phone: "slick but intermittent".
fshalor said:
Unfortunately, running away from this phone does seem to be good advise. It doesn't mater how slick it is in theory. Uber display and kickass hardware are useless if the basic functionality suffers due to glitches most of the other options don't seem to exibit.
I decided to play the "mod and wait" game with this thing, and I'm regretting it. Broad-brush damnations would have helped me. At this point, enough issues have came up about this hardware that a "broad-brush" sticky may be warranted. The alert issues found by the OP, may be related to his speaker begining to fail. I had a similar issue. Calander and alarm notifications began failing in some apps, but not others. The phone would still ring. Some apps could still use the speaker. Within a week, nothing could use the speaker, and I had to do the "push-on-it" fix.
It's a forum. Posts are opinions. I've been impressed occasionally by the raw performance of this phone. Yet, I've also spent hours, hours, researching problems, applying fixes, flashing, pushing on the speaker, etc. And I've spent hours "waiting" for the thing to do something simple like send an email when it did fine the day before. With as much time and effort as I've put into researching and working on this phone, I feel like I (and others) have not gotten enough stability out of it.
I propose a broad brush damnation for this phone: "slick but intermittent".
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haha. Thanks for the ,.. opinion. I'm starting to feel the same way about this phone. I had super high hopes. But I'm really going to stick with HTC. They just get it. IMHO.
I think most people regret buying this phone. Or they will, when FroYo never arrives, the lag gets worse and worse, the phone dies on them, and the GPS never come close to working, the market decides not to intall your app, this, that, or the other thing force closes, etc. etc. etc.
MikeyMike01 said:
I think most people regret buying this phone. Or they will, when FroYo never arrives, the lag gets worse and worse, the phone dies on them, and the GPS never come close to working, the market decides not to intall your app, this, that, or the other thing force closes, etc. etc. etc.
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Umm froyo is already leaked and OTA is on its way.
Lag has never been an issue.
And GPS is a software fix... proven on these boards over and over.
SHEESH... I'd say go tell somewhere else.
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yeah, 5 million people are completely dissatisfied because one guy managed to not know how to operate his phone.....
MikeyMike01 said:
I think most people regret buying this phone. Or they will, when FroYo never arrives, the lag gets worse and worse, the phone dies on them, and the GPS never come close to working, the market decides not to intall your app, this, that, or the other thing force closes, etc. etc. etc.
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I think your wrong. I think quite a few people got defective phones and haven't bothered returning them,thinking that if they root it and flash a different rom that would magically fix a broken phone. This is XDA and folks here mostly do this..thus the reason for most of the complaints. Problem is..it won't change much of anything to reflash if the phone is defective..If it is broken to begin with..it will be broken no matter what you do to it.. If yours is defective..quite *****ing about it and get one that isn't..or a different phone entirely. The working ones are great..just like they are supposed to be.
I have 2 of them built in September..both work and neither is defective.This tells me many of those built prior have some issues..perhaps not all of them..but some of them certainly. This certainly doesn't make it right by anyones account..just saying if yours is defective..return it and get one that isn't.
I honestly don't understand people who have the option of doing this,not doing it.The folks at my AT&T store opened 7 different boxes and checked every one of them for any blue tint on the screen and having the 3 button recovery option..for my second one bought at the same time,so I do know there are many out there that ain't working properly..The OP of this thread..is unhappy with it..damn..loose it and be done with it if you are that unhappy..or take that one back and get them to open up the boxes and show you one that works properly...If it was bought mail order..then you should just return it as defective and get your money back..and buy where you can see it first..It's your choice...and your money.
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Horrible Battery Life

Hello All,
I have (2) N5's (one white, one black). I've noticed that battery life on the black one is extremely bad. I'm almost always near a charger, so it was quite a shock when I noticed the black one down to 37% by noon. The next day I swapped phones and never saw the charge on the white one drop below 97%. I wiped both phones and configured each identically and was able to duplicate very similar results over the next few days. This morning I decided to see what happened when I did not connect to a charger. My use has been almost nothing (5 mins of screen time, 3 hrs off battery), yet my phone is already at 81%. I notice "Android OS" is using approx 50% of the battery. I do have a few apps that run in the background and I also leave GPS, BT, mobile and wifi on all of the time, however this is no different than how I used the white one or any previous phones. I suspect this is a hardware problem, however I would like to try to pinpoint the cause to satisfy my own curiosity. Can anyone recommend specific apps/tools that would provide more detailed information about what is going on with the different subsystems (battery, cpu, radios, storage, etc) that could help me find the problem? Thank you.
Do some searching and reading.
It's your apps. Not a hardware problem.
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Do a complete factory restore on both, with full charge, Then don't touch them at all, the post results
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You have a wakelock obviously. My Android OS does the same thing, but it doesnt destroy the battery that bad. My wakelock is wlan_rx_wake, and its very annoying to get rid of. Still havent found a way to kill it yet.
I've noticed if you turn the location settings to "Device only" the Nexus 5 sips battery, while the screen is off, because it isn't always waking itself 1,000+ times a day to report your location.
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Do some searching and reading.
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Pretty sure that's what I'm doing?
It's your apps. Not a hardware problem.
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I initially thought the same thing; however, I did not install any apps after wiping the phone, yet the problem remains. Also, I do not have this problem on my other N5 with all of my normal apps installed and configured for normal use.
Do a complete factory restore on both, with full charge, Then don't touch them at all, the post results
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I did this... mostly. After wiping both phones (by reflashing the factory image) I did charge both to 100% before using them. Unfortunately, I am on-call 24/7 and have to use one phone at all times. I did keep usage as identical as possible. I did this by not installing any apps and charging at the same times for the same amount of time. Also, my commute and time at work/home/elsewhere was almost identical. Of course there are some things that are out of my control (call, sms, emails, etc received), however it was certainly not enough to account for the difference I am seeing. If I take the phones off the charger at 7A, and use as little as possible, the white one will be >90% where the black one with be <40% by noon.
You have a wakelock obviously. My Android OS does the same thing, but it doesnt destroy the battery that bad. My wakelock is wlan_rx_wake, and its very annoying to get rid of. Still havent found a way to kill it yet.
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This very well may be. How did you find out that your wakelock is wlan_rx_wake? This is what I'm really seeking - app recommendations or other ways to acquire this in-depth information. I've done some googling, but many of the apps that I've seen recommended do not work with KitKat. What I find most odd is how the white N5 with a 100% identical configuration does not have this problem.
I've noticed if you turn the location settings to "Device only" the Nexus 5 sips battery, while the screen is off, because it isn't always waking itself 1,000+ times a day to report your location.
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Thank you. I suspect this would make a difference, however I am basing my expected usage on what I get with the white N5 with the same configuration. I did not change any settings on either and would like to see them similar with the same configuration. Once the issue is worked out, I will definitely take your advice and change this setting to increase my battery life.
Thank you all.
Did you download the firmware from Google then flash it in bootloader? Also you need to flash both phones to stock, Then not install any apps or settings on both so there both the same. That's a fair test.
If you can't do this, Then this thread is pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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Did you download the firmware from Google then flash it in bootloader? Also you need to flash both phones to stock, Then not install any apps or settings on both so there both the same. That's a fair test.
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Yes, I downloaded and flashed the stock image from Google. I run stock on all of my Nexus devices. I did not install any apps, however I had to setup E-Mail and modify my APN settings.
If you can't do this, Then this thread is pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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Why the attitude? You're clearly a helpful person, based on the time you spend helping others on here. If you're having a bad day or dealing with some personal issues, I sincerely hope things get better for you. If you really have a problem with my test constraints, then please move along. As a UNIX Administrator for the past 15 years, and a component-level electronics tech for 5 years before that, I can tell you from experience that the real world simply does not always provide for ideal conditions. While I agree that a 100% identical setup is preferred as a control, it's simply not an option. Even with my constraints, there is no way the number of emails and texts that I sent/received on a given day are the cause here. All that said, the point of this thread was to gain insight into how I can find more detailed information about what is going on with the various subsystems - either app recommendations or other tools. Much of the information I've found has been high-level - Settings > Battery or BetterBatteryStats (which doesn't work with KitKat AFAIK).
Thank you.
Without the 100% identical test, it's a guessing game.
I don't have an attitude, if I did, I would have told you my credentials, but I didn't think that had anything to do with this thread...
I'm not being a smart-ass buddy, and I do like to help on here as much as possible or as much as my knowledge can allow me.
Better battery stats, is for sure your best bet, that app is a must have for trouble shooting. I'm sure within a few days, there will be a update.
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Android OS and sensors.qcom

In the last weeks, I started to have an issue with "android os" going crazy without reason.
It's happening on WIFI or HPSA+
I noticed that sensors.qcom is always in my list when it is happening. I'm on stock (rooted) and I made a clean reinstallation of the OS a few days ago , and I installed only half of my apps... and the bug is already back ! so I'm trying to find what app is starting this issue (Don't get me wrong, the bug is probably on the google side , however, I'm sure there is an app starting it). Yesterday I uninstalled Greenify (I only had 2 apps greenified) and so far so good ... not sure if it is linked yet.
btw, BBS is no help with this issue.
anyone has the same problem here ?
on this thread, a few people are talking about sensors.qcom : https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/nexus/HV2TICIjX9U/WbZ8yOfNBbsJ
Hopefully you figured it out but I just had this issue starting today. BBS didn't help either but for me the fix came when I switched off Lens blur in the camera. I took a picture yesterday and didn't finish editing in after doing a lens blur. Switching it back to regular camera mode fixed my issue. My guess is some app is using one of the physical sensors so try looking there.
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In the last weeks, I started to have an issue with "android os" going crazy without reason.
It's happening on WIFI or HPSA+
I noticed that sensors.qcom is always in my list when it is happening. I'm on stock (rooted) and I made a clean reinstallation of the OS a few days ago , and I installed only half of my apps... and the bug is already back ! so I'm trying to find what app is starting this issue (Don't get me wrong, the bug is probably on the google side , however, I'm sure there is an app starting it). Yesterday I uninstalled Greenify (I only had 2 apps greenified) and so far so good ... not sure if it is linked yet.
btw, BBS is no help with this issue.
anyone has the same problem here ?
on this thread, a few people are talking about sensors.qcom : https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/nexus/HV2TICIjX9U/WbZ8yOfNBbsJ
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This is a big issue on alot of phones with Qualcomm cpus. My suspicion is its a hardware fault more common than people think.. Most people don't notice it especially heavy phone users, it will blend in well with other usage. Another reason is because it can stop by itself sometimes and doesn't happen nonstop. It is random.
Facts I know.
Whenever sensors.qcom shows up in battery stats, it will also be accompanied by high Android OS usage. Battery stats is not accurate, this bug could consume 50% of battery and it might just say 2%.
Check Cpu-z you will see all sensor information is missing.
CPU is constantly running near full speed.
It appears to be completely random, happening mid standby.
It is not caused by any app. I have tried on a completely stock rom.
Check wakelock detector kernel tab, you will see the wakelocks that cause this (there is millions)
You can fix it by restarting phone or enabling/disabling some sensors. Last time I had this happen (yesterday) my phone had lost 25% in 4 hours standby. I stopped it by enabling autobrightness and all sensors information returned in cpu-z along with cpu speed going back to normal. It is not caused by having auto brightness off however, just the toggling of sensors seems to stop it.
See my threads here
http://en.miui.com/thread-87409-1-1.html
http://en.miui.com/thread-63939-1-1.html

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