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MT4GS for sale

not sure if there is a better place for this.
Anyway, due to an odd billing/RMA issue, i am left with a new unopened MT4GS.
If you are interested in it please let me know.
I can link you to my eBay/confirmed PayPal account ect.
I figured I would try here to avoid paying eBay a huge cut

How much are you looking for it?
Also, you should post this in the Marketplace.

DistrictDigital said:
How much are you looking for it?
Also, you should post this in the Marketplace.
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make me an offer, i can ship it today

Climbguy said:
make me an offer, i can ship it today
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How bout 50 bucks
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How about $75

Ill sell mine for 399. It basically new I take super good care of my phones. No scratches what so ever.
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I'll give you a dollar.

How about donating it to a respectable developer so we can add another to the family. In return, we will create a place of honor for you where you can always be remembered as a valued contributor.
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Lol. If he was crazy and rich, I don't see why not, but times are hard. I don't think lowballing is nice =D.

ekoee said:
Lol. If he was crazy and rich, I don't see why not, but times are hard. I don't think lowballing is nice =D.
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True
I'ts a good phone and deserves a good price. It's too bad we can't start a raffle; that could be fun.

You should post this in the xda market. Trying to sell a slide to people who already have a slide won't get you very far. There might be people willing to trade as well
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i wish i could give it away, but as another poster noted, this isn't the economic climate to give away a high end phone like that.
i will try posting it in marketplace per the advice here

Climbguy said:
i wish i could give it away, but as another poster noted, this isn't the economic climate to give away a high end phone like that.
i will try posting it in marketplace per the advice here
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Do most of you guys consider this phone a high end phone? I only ask cuz I've never heard anyone refer to this phone as being ” high end”
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Its a 1.2 GHz dual core with a 21 mbps down data... its high end
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michaelmab88 said:
Its a 1.2 GHz dual core with a 21 mbps down data... its high end
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Don't forget its the best cellphone atm for taking still shots. Top in its class.
Wasent this a flagship phone for t mobile?
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I heard some tech sites calling this a superphone. It is a shame that this phone didn't get as much time in the spotlight as some others did. I think people assume it is lower end because of the smaller screen compared to the others, but that assumption is wrong. This is a high end phone.
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Definitely a high end phone. Top of the line specs, the best camera available, great screen. I honestly think it did not become a "flagship" phone because of the keyboard. I feel that many consumers favor a smaller form factor over a keyboard. A shame, but what are you gonna do about it?
Only two things IMO that are bad about this phone. One, the battery cover is slightly oversized in some places which caused it to squeak while typing. This happened to two phones. I fixed this by throwing some tape on the battery. Minor issue, but come on, HTC...
Two, the screen is not gorilla glass. I dropped it from like a foot off the ground on some concrete... I know I know, even gorilla glass might be scratched... but there were legitimate gouges on the screen. Trenches, almost. My mt4g would probably barely even show anything. Again, come on, HTC. Ended up sending that in for a warranty though. Point is, be super careful with this screen. Always wear (screen) protection!
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dung8604 said:
Definitely a high end phone. Top of the line specs, the best camera available, great screen. I honestly think it did not become a "flagship" phone because of the keyboard. I feel that many consumers favor a smaller form factor over a keyboard. A shame, but what are you gonna do about it?
Only two things IMO that are bad about this phone. One, the battery cover is slightly oversized in some places which caused it to squeak while typing. This happened to two phones. I fixed this by throwing some tape on the battery. Minor issue, but come on, HTC...
Two, the screen is not gorilla glass. I dropped it from like a foot off the ground on some concrete... I know I know, even gorilla glass might be scratched... but there were legitimate gouges on the screen. Trenches, almost. My mt4g would probably barely even show anything. Again, come on, HTC. Ended up sending that in for a warranty though. Point is, be super careful with this screen. Always wear (screen) protection!
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Totally agreed. I have a scratch on my screen. The metal bezel must be the softest metal on earth...
I also have dust under my screen... What you guys think? Exchange for sure right?

300 bucks, i could always use another one of these!

[Q] Sliding Hinge

My friend says that the sliding mechanism is a hinge and that if you were to drop it, the screen and keyboard will come apart. I was wondering if this were true. She said that's why she went with the 3G Slide....

that's always a possibility, i suppose, but maybe she's thinking of the g2? i know that there was a lot of talk about the z-hinge and how flimsy and loose it became with normal use.

I don't think so, I told her that I was planning on getting this phone and she was like "NOOOOO,, don't get it, if you drop it, it'll break into two pieces!!!!" She is currently trying to convince me that the 3G Slide is better. I disagree

totally agree with you. i guess, to each their own... even if they're wrong...

what kind of hinge is it? i was reading that the hinge was like....you could push each end of the phone and like it would go up. im saying like it could do that. for example, moving it up on the left a little then the right etc.... i dunno if that makes sense....

i know what you're saying. like each side of the hinge would move independently instead of moving together, in tandem. mine wiggles a tiny bit in between lock positions (opened/closed), but there's no reason i can think of to not have it either completely opened or closed. it's sturdy in those positions. it's a pretty solid phone and i'm pretty hard on phones. there's no more reason to be more worried about this particular phone, rather than any other phone, breaking in any way.

I use to have a 3G slide and now have a 4G Slide. The 3G slide is a good phone but very weak. The slide on the 4G Slide is like the 3G Slide but definately more solid.
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moe. said:
that's always a possibility, i suppose, but maybe she's thinking of the g2? i know that there was a lot of talk about the z-hinge and how flimsy and loose it became with normal use.
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That one's true. The hinge to my G2 got loose as it got older and now it's a backup phone.
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There is a little bit of play to the sliding mechanism, but it feels pretty solid.
If you had any idea how many times a day I slide it in and out - I still stubbornly use the hardware keyboard for all of my terminal work, and slide it in to get the soft keyboard for the / key, then slide it back out to type in more of the command.
You can imagine how often I slide the keyboard in and out on the phone at this point - significantly above average use.
I've had it for just over 5 months, at least half of that time was round-the-clock dev time directly interacting with the device.
HTC makes a good phone - still works great and I haven't noticed any seperation or loosening of the slide mechanism in the time i've been putting it through an elevated level of use.
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Any device that is not one solid piece has the potential to split apart if you drop it.
Unless you routinely abuse your device, or just don't care enough to take care of it ... it should not be a concern.
I break an average of one a month flip-phones on my verizon plan...drop it off a roof, into a bucket of paint, gets crushed in my pocket or I just get vent some frustration by smashing it against a wall or something.
( It took me a long time to get to the cell phone thing because I honestly dislike phones. I have incoming calls blocked on my T-Mo plan - which is probably why I still have my doubleshot in one piece - lmao. To me this device is an anywhere computer, I don't do phone calls or text messaging with it. )
But those flip phones are the cheapest ones I can get, no data or anything crazy, just basic talk. If you treat this device like one of those p.o.s. handsets, it won't last long...none of them will.
I recommend a case for it - I use the trident one because it's soft and absorbs shock which further insulates it from problems like we are discussing.
Definitely get insurance on it if you don't already, it's expensive enough to warrant it if you do have to replace it because of an accident.

Blue6IX said:
There is a little bit of play to the sliding mechanism, but it feels pretty solid.
If you had any idea how many times a day I slide it in and out - I still stubbornly use the hardware keyboard for all of my terminal work, and slide it in to get the soft keyboard for the / key, then slide it back out to type in more of the command.
You can imagine how often I slide the keyboard in and out on the phone at this point - significantly above average use.
I've had it for just over 5 months, at least half of that time was round-the-clock dev time directly interacting with the device.
HTC makes a good phone - still works great and I haven't noticed any seperation or loosening of the slide mechanism in the time i've been putting it through an elevated level of use.
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Any device that is not one solid piece has the potential to split apart if you drop it.
Unless you routinely abuse your device, or just don't care enough to take care of it ... it should not be a concern.
I break an average of one a month flip-phones on my verizon plan...drop it off a roof, into a bucket of paint, gets crushed in my pocket or I just get vent some frustration by smashing it against a wall or something.
( It took me a long time to get to the cell phone thing because I honestly dislike phones. I have incoming calls blocked on my T-Mo plan - which is probably why I still have my doubleshot in one piece - lmao. To me this device is an anywhere computer, I don't do phone calls or text messaging with it. )
But those flip phones are the cheapest ones I can get, no data or anything crazy, just basic talk. If you treat this device like one of those p.o.s. handsets, it won't last long...none of them will.
I recommend a case for it - I use the trident one because it's soft and absorbs shock which further insulates it from problems like we are discussing.
Definitely get insurance on it if you don't already, it's expensive enough to warrant it if you do have to replace it because of an accident.
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Blue you should write an app to replace terminal emulator for the mt4gs lol, I dunno how you could possibly deal with that / issue so often.
Anyways. If I dropped this 700 dollar phone and it split in two I would go to tmo and ***** so much that it deserves a free manufacturers warranty. They definitely built this phone very strong and I doubt that this will ever happen unless you take an epic fall and somehow land on the phone with your knee while its open and smash the hell out of it at the perfect angle to snap the hinge or something.
I've dropped this phone many times and its still fine. this phone is heavy duty. And your girlfriend doesn't know what she's talking about. If I threw this phone 50 yards I'm thinking that the hinge would still work, if nothing else did
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The g2 on the other hand, I could see this happening. The keyboard would probably open on that phone from the wind resistance on the way to the ground from your hand.
That phone has a weak hinge
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leoilios said:
Blue you should write an app to replace terminal emulator for the mt4gs lol, I dunno how you could possibly deal with that / issue so often.
Anyways. If I dropped this 700 dollar phone and it split in two I would go to tmo and ***** so much that it deserves a free manufacturers warranty. They definitely built this phone very strong and I doubt that this will ever happen unless you take an epic fall and somehow land on the phone with your knee while its open and smash the hell out of it at the perfect angle to snap the hinge or something.
I've dropped this phone many times and its still fine. this phone is heavy duty. And your girlfriend doesn't know what she's talking about. If I threw this phone 50 yards I'm thinking that the hinge would still work, if nothing else did
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I use "SU File Manager and Terminal". The Terminal Emulator feature in that app works perfectly.

thatlaoboi said:
My friend says that the sliding mechanism is a hinge and that if you were to drop it, the screen and keyboard will come apart. I was wondering if this were true. She said that's why she went with the 3G Slide....
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Your friend bought an old piece of junk and either;
a) knows it and doesn't want you to have something better,
b) kind of knows it and is trying to make excuses to herself.
As a matter of fact, the sliding mechanism on the doubleshot (the REAL name of the phone) is rock solid. There are ZERO hinges in it.
The HTC VISION has hinges "z-hinge", and even that.... ROCK SOLID. I have one, its been dropped, its been flung, its been crushed, NOTHING came apart. The opening/closing action on it is the perfect balance between firm and functional.
I have ZERO complaints about either the Vision OR the Doubleshot. The Doubleshot is the GF's phone BTW, I'm not going to upgrade the Vision until there is an actual benefit from doing so.
Don't fret about the doubleshot's SLIDING mechanism -- its VERY solid.
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The g2 on the other hand, I could see this happening. The keyboard would probably open on that phone from the wind resistance on the way to the ground from your hand.
That phone has a weak hinge
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Spoken like someone who doesn't own one. I *do* own one, and I can attest to this being a completely inaccurate account of the hinge operation on the Vision.

dhkr234 said:
Spoken like someone who doesn't own one. I *do* own one, and I can attest to this being a completely inaccurate account of the hinge operation on the Vision.
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Ur right, my brother has it. he actually loaded the g2 keyboard with double sided tape and shut the phone so that it will never open again. His phone along with my friend's g2 would open if it was held from the back of the phone and faced the ground.
Maybe what I should have said was loose, not weak. My friend ended up fixing it by getting a new spring for the phone. He rebuilt it and it works great. The stock spring is usually bad out of the box (g2)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003310
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leoilios said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003310
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Waaaaah WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH.
I happen to actually own one. No modifications to it outside of the software realm. The spring tension on it is exactly perfect and I would ABSOLUTELY NOT like it if the spring was any harder.
The ENTIRE "problem" with the spring on the VISION (which is not a real problem) is related to most of those people who previously had an HTC DREAM. It had BULLDOZER SPRINGS on the screen, so naturally ANYTHING would seem weaker IN COMPARISON.
In fact, the design of HTC VISION doesn't really even need springs to begin with! GRAVITY will hold it in the proper position. The only way it will "randomly open" is if you INTENTIONALLY hold it wrong to prove a pointless point.

dhkr234 said:
Waaaaah WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH.
I happen to actually own one. No modifications to it outside of the software realm. The spring tension on it is exactly perfect and I would ABSOLUTELY NOT like it if the spring was any harder.
The ENTIRE "problem" with the spring on the VISION (which is not a real problem) is related to most of those people who previously had an HTC DREAM. It had BULLDOZER SPRINGS on the screen, so naturally ANYTHING would seem weaker IN COMPARISON.
In fact, the design of HTC VISION doesn't really even need springs to begin with! GRAVITY will hold it in the proper position. The only way it will "randomly open" is if you INTENTIONALLY hold it wrong to prove a pointless point.
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Hahaha, well what about when ur laying in bed using the keyboard and your screen falls down?
Anyways, not all phones are made the same, maybe your stock spring was on the better side of things.
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dhkr234 said:
Your friend bought an old piece of junk and either;
a) knows it and doesn't want you to have something better,
b) kind of knows it and is trying to make excuses to herself.
As a matter of fact, the sliding mechanism on the doubleshot (the REAL name of the phone) is rock solid. There are ZERO hinges in it.
I have ZERO complaints about either the Vision OR the Doubleshot. The Doubleshot is the GF's phone BTW, I'm not going to upgrade the Vision until there is an actual benefit from doing so.
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Ok so I talked to my friend and I saw the sliding mechanism. I don't really know how to explain it...its like a train on tracks. I don't know if I make sense, but its kinda like that. She seemed pretty convinced the sliding mechanism works on a hinge and is really bad. She told me that's why she went with the 3G Slide. But even though she said that, I still REALLY want this phone. So the phone slides, and is not on a hinge?
BTW I know the real name...I just didn't think of using it

thatlaoboi said:
Ok so I talked to my friend and I saw the sliding mechanism. I don't really know how to explain it...its like a train on tracks. I don't know if I make sense, but its kinda like that. She seemed pretty convinced the sliding mechanism works on a hinge and is really bad. She told me that's why she went with the 3G Slide. But even though she said that, I still REALLY want this phone. So the phone slides, and is not on a hinge?
BTW I know the real name...I just didn't think of using it
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The sliding part of the mt4gs is pro. Get it. This phone is 4 times faster than the 3g slide. If the slider on this phone had issues there would be threads about it. And if anyones 4gs ever split in two pieces on a drop, it would have been posted about on the forums, guaranteed. This is a good phone. The feel of the keyboard is not top notch, but its reliable and durable.
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There is no hinge on this phone. Why can't we just leave it at that? Weird thread...
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Why HTC's engineering team needs to be replaced.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26906002
Yes, I have a great idea. Let's have antennas put in the case of the phone, so we have to use crappy little leaf-spring type connectors just to have a connection to the phone. Then, to make it even better, let's have the case made of polycarbonate so it can bend. And to help with even better design, let's make the connectors so thin and crappy that bending them at all stresses them enough to make it not spring back up, and then trying to bend it back will likely snap the connectors. Because we need ideal antenna design, never mind the fact that an antenna is useless when it can't connect to the modem that needs it.
HTC has pulled this idiocy before, it happened with the Desire HD's GPS, it happened with the Sensation's WiFi and touch screen, now it's happening again. It is beyond me why they insist on doing this when Samsung is getting by perfectly fine by just having the antennas sit beneath the case. What happened to plastic being RF transparent? This is probably one of the few things that really riles me up about HTC, simply because they never seem to realize why the Galaxy S2 and S3 are more popular. When they can't even get basic antennas right, how do they expect people to be repeat customers?
EDIT: No, this doesn't affect the phone when everything is fine, but this can be part of the reason why there are wifi issues/general reception problems.

I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but it is probably just you or a software problem. I have played with many H1X's, including 2 of which are my own, and never had the problem you described. Perhaps you have a defective unit?

ethantarheels123 said:
I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but it is probably just you or a software problem. I have played with many H1X's, including 2 of which are my own, and never had the problem you described. Perhaps you have a defective unit?
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I don't own an H1X, I have a Desire HD but frequent multiple device forums.
Yes, you may not have a problem, but this design makes it incredibly easy to break Wifi/BT, and any other antennas that are connected to the phone in this manner.
Yes, if the connection breaks, it is a defective unit. My problem is that if you squeeze the back case often enough or have the phone overheat (likely if you have the Tegra 3 variant and use it as an in car GPS) then you will destroy the connection. Designs where the antennas are not in the case will never have this happen unless you somehow physically melt the connection between the antenna and motherboard or it is torn off, both are incredibly unlikely to happen.
It doesn't matter whether your phone has this issue, it is likely to happen and HTC needs to be pressured into changing their designs so this issue never crops up again.

Another whine thread...just what we need. Speak with your money if it bothers you.
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I guess that explains why my first One X had no wifi (could never connect0 and it was that top left glass corner lifted up enough from the device that light came out of the crack.
But guess what? Got another while I wait on my warranty repair (no exchange because no stock).

Hunt3r.j2 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26906002
Yes, I have a great idea. Let's have antennas put in the case of the phone, so we have to use crappy little leaf-spring type connectors just to have a connection to the phone. Then, to make it even better, let's have the case made of polycarbonate so it can bend. And to help with even better design, let's make the connectors so thin and crappy that bending them at all stresses them enough to make it not spring back up, and then trying to bend it back will likely snap the connectors. Because we need ideal antenna design, never mind the fact that an antenna is useless when it can't connect to the modem that needs it.
HTC has pulled this idiocy before, it happened with the Desire HD's GPS, it happened with the Sensation's WiFi and touch screen, now it's happening again. It is beyond me why they insist on doing this when Samsung is getting by perfectly fine by just having the antennas sit beneath the case. What happened to plastic being RF transparent? This is probably one of the few things that really riles me up about HTC, simply because they never seem to realize why the Galaxy S2 and S3 are more popular. When they can't even get basic antennas right, how do they expect people to be repeat customers?
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The s2 and 3 are more popular not because of any of the reason you have stated.
But in case you're wondering despite HTC being abandoned by "expert" users aka xda members () HTC's customer satisfaction ranking has always been higher than Samsung. Google it.
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Another whine thread...just what we need. Speak with your money if it bothers you.
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LOL

There is no problem with the connectors, and as far as I can tell, touchscreen problems only exist when swapping batteries, and continuously chatting then in the phone. If you use an external charger and swap batteries, there is no problem. So its not the connector, but static buildup from continuously charging dead batteries. Yes it is a problembut goes away when using the phone as intended(charging just one battery per charge cycle).
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There is no problem with the connectors, and as far as I can tell, touchscreen problems only exist when swapping batteries, and continuously chatting then in the phone. If you use an external charger and swap batteries, there is no problem. So its not the connector, but static buildup from continuously charging dead batteries. Yes it is a problembut goes away when using the phone as intended(charging just one battery per charge cycle).
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The problem was the fact that the touchscreen grounding was on a spring that was supposed to touch the phone, and over time if you removed the back cover often enough it would start losing contact.

From the tear down pics there isn't much thats not built right onto the mobo. I have used many android phones, and really enjor the One X, I just think a lot of people don't give the device a chance. I mean I have had a few software issues, but nothing that makes me want to return the phone, it will all get fixed in time.
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kleeman7 said:
From the tear down pics there isn't much thats not built right onto the mobo. I have used many android phones, and really enjor the One X, I just think a lot of people don't give the device a chance. I mean I have had a few software issues, but nothing that makes me want to return the phone, it will all get fixed in time.
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The problem is with the antenna connectors. I would not be so concerned if there was a ribbon cable or something that connected antennas to the motherboard, but I know that the type of design that they use is very easily broken.

"You're holding it wrong" - Steve Jobs

Haven't had any wifi problems with mine
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My connection seems to flicker. It'll be five bars but then out of nowhere I'd lose my connection for like 3 seconds. Very annoying. I have a ht24

Most every HTC phone nowadays has that antenna design; my Rezound also use spring connectors to the seperate backplate antennas. I have pits in my antennas from use, but no significant signal loss thanks to the rigid case design keeping the connections solid.
The relatively flexible case of the HOX really could interfere and needs a different connection method. The battery is non-removable, yet they just stuck with what they knew how to do anyway.

PhantasmRezound said:
Most every HTC phone nowadays has that antenna design; my Rezound also use spring connectors to the seperate backplate antennas. I have pits in my antennas from use, but no significant signal loss thanks to the rigid case design keeping the connections solid.
The relatively flexible case of the HOX really could interfere and needs a different connection method. The battery is non-removable, yet they just stuck with what they knew how to do anyway.
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Probably because it's a working, effective design that has been implemented in almost every phone they make. No reason to change it. What's the term... "tried and true".
My old HTC Aria had the most flexible back cover ever, and the connection was fine after over 2 years of non stop service. I'm sure this phone won't have any issues, especially considering it is a unibody design.
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I love reading someone's complaint about a phone only to realize further down in my reading that op doesn't even own the phone. Super fail lol.
On the other hand, my reception has been great. There is even this one crazy spot where I'd never get reception or data connectivity at work and now with this phone it actually works in said location! Love it.
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Complaining about a phone you don't own?
credibility lost right there..
move on.. to your sgs3

wiesman2613 said:
Complaining about a phone you don't own?
credibility lost right there..
move on.. to your sgs3
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Complaining because the last thing I want is a GS3.

You're holding it wrong.

I wish an "engineering" team built the one x, but they used a new "design" team because they wanted it to be stylish. Ponderous. Why worry about the back/shape of a phone when the majority puts it in a case and will never see or feel the back. Build quality should be the driving force, not design. Antennas should be HARD WIRED, period. All these pogo or spring style connectors have issues. I work with point to point wireless links and any connector has loss. 1db loss on a good connector. Spring and pogo are a bad idea and definitely causing too much loss.
I have an Inspire and TFPrime. Two big offenders. I have cleaned and retensioned all three on the inspire and it helped for about 3 mos, but GPS is getting flaky again. Going to HARD WIRE GPS antenna and be done with it. Basically what HTC should have done from the start.
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no more s4's breaking in pockets

Havn't heard anymore stories of s4's breaking in peoples pockets for a few weeks. Hopefully this was just a bad batch and not testament to build quality. Still a little nervous t go naked but what the hell I got squaretrade. has anyone seen any new posts of this happening in the past few weeks?

Jspeer said:
Havn't heard anymore stories of s4's breaking in peoples pockets for a few weeks. Hopefully this was just a bad batch and not testament to build quality. Still a little nervous t go naked but what the hell I got squaretrade. has anyone seen any new posts of this happening in the past few weeks?
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100% willing to bet that none of those people gave the full story. Phone screens DO NOT just brake, they don't just "magically" crack. Something with force caused, one way or another
You're safe, I go in and out of my phone case all the time and my S4 is still like New. Looks just as beautiful as day one, zero hiccups!

Thermalwolf said:
100% willing to bet that none of those people gave the full story. Phone screens DO NOT just brake, they don't just "magically" crack. Something with force caused, one way or another
You're safe, I go in and out of my phone case all the time and my S4 is still like New. Looks just as beautiful as day one, zero hiccups!
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its just to pretty for case. I have a poetic atmosphere and its nice btu the phone is just to beautiful to be hidden in a case imo.

breaking in pockets haha, they sat on it or something.
they don't just break by themselves, either trolls or not telling the whole truth.

Jspeer said:
its just to pretty for case. I have a poetic atmosphere and its nice btu the phone is just to beautiful to be hidden in a case imo.
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I know how you feel, I hate hiding my beautiful S4 in this ugly Incipio (getting a nice Spigen soon). The phone is built to extremely high quality, don't buy into the "metal" ignorance. Polycarbonate is much more durable and just as strong per pound as aluminum. Don't be afraid, the S4 does not take damage easily if not no more then any other phone.
If you want 100% relief that you can replace your phone for under a couple hundred bucks then get a dependable third party phone insurance program (Don't bother with AT&T's...)

I do running everyday caseless carring the phone in my pocket. No worries man!
Regards :thumbup:
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Maesedroid said:
I do running everyday caseless carring the phone in my pocket. No worries man!
Regards :thumbup:
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Them brass balls you got are realllllly big lol
I did that once and thought I was gonna have a heart attack, never will I run without a case, but that's me! Glad to hear it holds up well, which to be honest I figured it would, I just won't risk it

Hahaha! Yeah everything you consider to protect a $600 bucks investment really matters!
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And I bet most of those people claiming their GS4s broke in their pocket were iPhone fanboys, wanting to damage Samsung's reputation.
Why would I say such a thing? Because I used to be one of those fanboys...

Pulga89 said:
And I bet most of those people claiming their GS4s broke in their pocket were iPhone fanboys, wanting to damage Samsung's reputation.
Why would I say such a thing? Because I used to be one of those fanboys...
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It's ok, you've moved on from that dark part of your life

Thermalwolf said:
It's ok, you've moved on from that dark part of your life
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Yup, and I've never been happier with a new phone! I don't think I'm ever going back...

Pulga89 said:
Yup, and I've never been happier with a new phone! I don't think I'm ever going back...
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My boss at work is an Apple Fan and even himself said he would rather have the S4 after trying my phone. He says it even looks and feels better, HA IN YOH FACE APPLE!
Btw sorry to any real Apple fans, they are a great company!

I spoke to soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2300072

Well, I loved the iPhone, but I was constantly waiting for a jailbreak to come out for each iOS version, just to quickly lose my jaikbreak if something went wrong and a restore was needed. And knowing that these headaches don't happen as often on android, and that rooting is not as necessary as a jailbreak on iOS, made me make the switch. And I'm glad I did.
I still prefer the iPhone's build materials though. I've never been a fan of plastic.
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Jspeer said:
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The Samsung fanboyism here is just as bad as Apple fanboyism, but because its here, its okay right? Its hilarious that the fanboys here don't see the hypocrisy of their statements. Pretending there is no issue and kissing ass to Samsung isn't going to get us, as the consumer, anything positive. Samsung doesn't care about you and more then Apple does.
Read the thread yourself. One person witnessed the screen crack while they were having their contacts transferred to their new S4 at the store. Obviously he got a new one right then and there but it WAS just sitting there.

For all those who say it's impossible for a screen to crack with no external force applied, that's not necessarily true. I believe I read somewhere that the S4's AMOLED screen and the Gorilla Glass 3 are glued together. If that's true, then it is possible that poor assembly technique could lead to internal stress in the assembly. For example, the two pieces should be allowed sufficient time for temperature normalization in a (temperature & humidity) controlled environment prior to assembly (gluing together); failure to do so would cause a bending stress (bending moment) pre-load in the assembled display.
I imagine poor assembly procedures would end up as batch-to-batch variation, so maybe there are some bad batches out there.
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I'm thinking the same thing (bad batch).. or maybe these are all late friday models (for those who don't know this term, its used in the auto industry. cars made late on a friday afternoon are said to be generally inferior since workers mentally 'check out' and start thinking about the weekend and don't pay attention/care to what they're doing.
Its dissapointing that Samsung is pretending its not an issue. This should be covered under the 1 year manufacturer warranty. I don't know if it'll happen to me but
now I'm forced to pay for extra warranty just to protect myself in case this happens. My next phone probably won't be a Samsung because of this.

Pulga89 said:
And I bet most of those people claiming their GS4s broke in their pocket were iPhone fanboys, wanting to damage Samsung's reputation.
Why would I say such a thing? Because I used to be one of those fanboys...
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Sorry, but this kind of talk is just silly and pointless. Every time someone complains about a possible defect there's always a chorus of nerds who say "well, it's not happening to me so it must be your fault". It's tiresome. Maybe many of the cracked S4s weren't treated like raw eggs, but maybe the S4 cracked where other phones (notably the iPhone) would not. It's obviously kind of a delicate device.
Now, maybe people should be aware of that when they are selecting a phone, but the responses here swing too far into a weird kind of victim-blaming type area. It's not unreasonable to expect some durability from a phone.

My gf dropped her s4 case less on concrete 4 times now and has only had a few scuffs on bezel/rim.. Clearly the phones that broke so easily had defects
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h3lluvaninjuhneer said:
For all those who say it's impossible for a screen to crack with no external force applied, that's not necessarily true. I believe I read somewhere that the S4's AMOLED screen and the Gorilla Glass 3 are glued together. If that's true, then it is possible that poor assembly technique could lead to internal stress in the assembly. For example, the two pieces should be allowed sufficient time for temperature normalization in a (temperature & humidity) controlled environment prior to assembly (gluing together); failure to do so would cause a bending stress (bending moment) pre-load in the assembled display.
I imagine poor assembly procedures would end up as batch-to-batch variation, so maybe there are some bad batches out there.
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If the glass and the screen are glued together, I would wonder what the effects of cooling and heating would be? Two devices glued together, expanding and contracting at different rates would do some strange things.
This would explain the story about the screen cracking while contacts were being transferred; cold phone sitting in a box, and it heated up too quickly as the battery, wifi, data, processor all revved up after just being powered on.
I understand why folks would be suspicious of stories on the internetz of phones breaking; today, very few people seem to want to take responsibility for their actions, such as sitting on their new expensive toy. But to dismiss such claims right away on a newly-released device when we don't know of all its faults yet is not wise either. Sometimes karma is a *****.

Has anyone succesfully replaced the Nexus 6P battery?

I am looking to replace my battery on my Nexus 6P, I've abused it in the form of basically charging it all the time, all 8 hours at work, it sat on the charger all day, since I use it heavily. I now know the erro of my ways and I want to repalce the battery.
I've watched videos on how to do it, I know it's not easy, but it is possible. Has anyone here changed it, also where did you get the battery, I've found them anywhere form $10 to $50, I ahve no problem paying more if I know it's an OEM battery.
Thanks in advance.

Maybe someone, but I've not heard of anybody doing it....

Not here either....seems like a terrible time haha Best of luck to you if you try but when my battery life degrades to that point I will be parting with this phone and either buying another one of some sort. Even working with electronics for years there no way I'd personally succeed the first time lol

I have dissassembled my phone to replace random components after falling on it. its not that hard to get apart in my opinion, and its super simple to replace the battery if you can source the battery

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I have dissassembled my phone to replace random components after falling on it. its not that hard to get apart in my opinion, and its super simple to replace the battery if you can source the battery
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Right! The teardown video I saw made it look not that bad, and I toar apart my Galaxy Nexus to replace the USB port on it back in the fday, and that was actually fun, granted it had a removable back with easier access to screws, but still.

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Not here either....seems like a terrible time haha Best of luck to you if you try but when my battery life degrades to that point I will be parting with this phone and either buying another one of some sort. Even working with electronics for years there no way I'd personally succeed the first time lol
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I have been eyeing the oneplu3 and oogling over the supposed specs on the oneplus4, so I'll probably go there as soon as it's released, but my battery is bad, I get 2 hour SOT if I'm lucky, this phone used to give me 4+ easy.

If you have to open up.
Buy extra camera glass pieces. Thats literally the only thing that normally goes wrong if you dont have a real heat gun. Dont thing hair dryers will do the trick unless your extremely patient. I plan on replacing the housing soon.

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I have been eyeing the oneplu3 and oogling over the supposed specs on the oneplus4, so I'll probably go there as soon as it's released, but my battery is bad, I get 2 hour SOT if I'm lucky, this phone used to give me 4+ easy.
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Gotcha...yeah I'm unfortunately stuck w/ Verizon which severely limits my unlocked options lol, but I'd seriously consider the one+ series if I could!

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Gotcha...yeah I'm unfortunately stuck w/ Verizon which severely limits my unlocked options lol, but I'd seriously consider the one+ series if I could!
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You just made me sad, I hadn't really looke dinto the oneplus all that much and dind't realize VZW data didn't work. I'm on an unlimited VZW plan, crap.
Hopefully the oneplus 4 has the ZVW radios. Now I really need to change this battery.

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You just made me sad, I hadn't really looke dinto the oneplus all that much and dind't realize VZW data didn't work. I'm on an unlimited VZW plan, crap.
Hopefully the oneplus 4 has the ZVW radios. Now I really need to change this battery.
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Haha yeeeeaaah all that GSM crap and all their "nice" phones Good luck if ya try man, you're more adventurous than I!

I've successfully done an internal component swap. Swapped the motherboard and battery from a very beat up N6P into one that was in excellent condition but was basically a paperweight.
The most difficult thing about this project was not getting into the phone, but getting into the phone without leaving any noticeable scratches. Removing the camera glass and the plastic strip at the bottom took at least half an hour of heating and gentle prying. Getting the screen out without a suction cup tool was a bit tricky too, i had to wedge in a chisel x-acto blade and pry it up, lucky no damage was done.
My advice would be to have on hand as many of the tools suggested in the youtube videos and to be patient while do it.

intruda119 said:
If you have to open up.
Buy extra camera glass pieces. Thats literally the only thing that normally goes wrong if you dont have a real heat gun. Dont thing hair dryers will do the trick unless your extremely patient. I plan on replacing the housing soon.
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Been there done that with a hairdyer. Rear camera covering glass came off in one piece
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moochinazz said:
Been there done that with a hairdyer. Rear camera covering glass came off in one piece
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Good to know
Thinking about doing mine

I've never taken mine apart but if I plan on replacing my battery I will buy the replacement glass piece and bottom plastic piece at the same time. Those are the only pieces that can get damaged in the process.

I just watched that video. from the looks of it, so long as you take your time. and have that suction cup tool, it should be fairly straight forward. at least you are not having to separate the screen itself from the guts to get inside.

Looks like my battery is on its way as well.
Anyone sourced genuine replacement yet?

Have you considered getting a battery case for it?

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Have you considered getting a battery case for it?
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I threw up a little while reading this.

intruda119 said:
I threw up a little while reading this.
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Why?

I understand the 2 out of 10 rating on iFixit after replacing the back cover on my phone. 90% of the pain is getting to the 6 screws. I don't think it is possible without scratching up the old cover. Funny thing is that I just wanted to change it from silver to black. A heat gun is a definite requirement. Not for the faint at heart for sure.
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