My friend says that the sliding mechanism is a hinge and that if you were to drop it, the screen and keyboard will come apart. I was wondering if this were true. She said that's why she went with the 3G Slide....
that's always a possibility, i suppose, but maybe she's thinking of the g2? i know that there was a lot of talk about the z-hinge and how flimsy and loose it became with normal use.
I don't think so, I told her that I was planning on getting this phone and she was like "NOOOOO,, don't get it, if you drop it, it'll break into two pieces!!!!" She is currently trying to convince me that the 3G Slide is better. I disagree
totally agree with you. i guess, to each their own... even if they're wrong...
what kind of hinge is it? i was reading that the hinge was like....you could push each end of the phone and like it would go up. im saying like it could do that. for example, moving it up on the left a little then the right etc.... i dunno if that makes sense....
i know what you're saying. like each side of the hinge would move independently instead of moving together, in tandem. mine wiggles a tiny bit in between lock positions (opened/closed), but there's no reason i can think of to not have it either completely opened or closed. it's sturdy in those positions. it's a pretty solid phone and i'm pretty hard on phones. there's no more reason to be more worried about this particular phone, rather than any other phone, breaking in any way.
I use to have a 3G slide and now have a 4G Slide. The 3G slide is a good phone but very weak. The slide on the 4G Slide is like the 3G Slide but definately more solid.
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moe. said:
that's always a possibility, i suppose, but maybe she's thinking of the g2? i know that there was a lot of talk about the z-hinge and how flimsy and loose it became with normal use.
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That one's true. The hinge to my G2 got loose as it got older and now it's a backup phone.
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There is a little bit of play to the sliding mechanism, but it feels pretty solid.
If you had any idea how many times a day I slide it in and out - I still stubbornly use the hardware keyboard for all of my terminal work, and slide it in to get the soft keyboard for the / key, then slide it back out to type in more of the command.
You can imagine how often I slide the keyboard in and out on the phone at this point - significantly above average use.
I've had it for just over 5 months, at least half of that time was round-the-clock dev time directly interacting with the device.
HTC makes a good phone - still works great and I haven't noticed any seperation or loosening of the slide mechanism in the time i've been putting it through an elevated level of use.
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Any device that is not one solid piece has the potential to split apart if you drop it.
Unless you routinely abuse your device, or just don't care enough to take care of it ... it should not be a concern.
I break an average of one a month flip-phones on my verizon plan...drop it off a roof, into a bucket of paint, gets crushed in my pocket or I just get vent some frustration by smashing it against a wall or something.
( It took me a long time to get to the cell phone thing because I honestly dislike phones. I have incoming calls blocked on my T-Mo plan - which is probably why I still have my doubleshot in one piece - lmao. To me this device is an anywhere computer, I don't do phone calls or text messaging with it. )
But those flip phones are the cheapest ones I can get, no data or anything crazy, just basic talk. If you treat this device like one of those p.o.s. handsets, it won't last long...none of them will.
I recommend a case for it - I use the trident one because it's soft and absorbs shock which further insulates it from problems like we are discussing.
Definitely get insurance on it if you don't already, it's expensive enough to warrant it if you do have to replace it because of an accident.
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There is a little bit of play to the sliding mechanism, but it feels pretty solid.
If you had any idea how many times a day I slide it in and out - I still stubbornly use the hardware keyboard for all of my terminal work, and slide it in to get the soft keyboard for the / key, then slide it back out to type in more of the command.
You can imagine how often I slide the keyboard in and out on the phone at this point - significantly above average use.
I've had it for just over 5 months, at least half of that time was round-the-clock dev time directly interacting with the device.
HTC makes a good phone - still works great and I haven't noticed any seperation or loosening of the slide mechanism in the time i've been putting it through an elevated level of use.
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Any device that is not one solid piece has the potential to split apart if you drop it.
Unless you routinely abuse your device, or just don't care enough to take care of it ... it should not be a concern.
I break an average of one a month flip-phones on my verizon plan...drop it off a roof, into a bucket of paint, gets crushed in my pocket or I just get vent some frustration by smashing it against a wall or something.
( It took me a long time to get to the cell phone thing because I honestly dislike phones. I have incoming calls blocked on my T-Mo plan - which is probably why I still have my doubleshot in one piece - lmao. To me this device is an anywhere computer, I don't do phone calls or text messaging with it. )
But those flip phones are the cheapest ones I can get, no data or anything crazy, just basic talk. If you treat this device like one of those p.o.s. handsets, it won't last long...none of them will.
I recommend a case for it - I use the trident one because it's soft and absorbs shock which further insulates it from problems like we are discussing.
Definitely get insurance on it if you don't already, it's expensive enough to warrant it if you do have to replace it because of an accident.
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Blue you should write an app to replace terminal emulator for the mt4gs lol, I dunno how you could possibly deal with that / issue so often.
Anyways. If I dropped this 700 dollar phone and it split in two I would go to tmo and ***** so much that it deserves a free manufacturers warranty. They definitely built this phone very strong and I doubt that this will ever happen unless you take an epic fall and somehow land on the phone with your knee while its open and smash the hell out of it at the perfect angle to snap the hinge or something.
I've dropped this phone many times and its still fine. this phone is heavy duty. And your girlfriend doesn't know what she's talking about. If I threw this phone 50 yards I'm thinking that the hinge would still work, if nothing else did
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The g2 on the other hand, I could see this happening. The keyboard would probably open on that phone from the wind resistance on the way to the ground from your hand.
That phone has a weak hinge
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Blue you should write an app to replace terminal emulator for the mt4gs lol, I dunno how you could possibly deal with that / issue so often.
Anyways. If I dropped this 700 dollar phone and it split in two I would go to tmo and ***** so much that it deserves a free manufacturers warranty. They definitely built this phone very strong and I doubt that this will ever happen unless you take an epic fall and somehow land on the phone with your knee while its open and smash the hell out of it at the perfect angle to snap the hinge or something.
I've dropped this phone many times and its still fine. this phone is heavy duty. And your girlfriend doesn't know what she's talking about. If I threw this phone 50 yards I'm thinking that the hinge would still work, if nothing else did
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I use "SU File Manager and Terminal". The Terminal Emulator feature in that app works perfectly.
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My friend says that the sliding mechanism is a hinge and that if you were to drop it, the screen and keyboard will come apart. I was wondering if this were true. She said that's why she went with the 3G Slide....
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Your friend bought an old piece of junk and either;
a) knows it and doesn't want you to have something better,
b) kind of knows it and is trying to make excuses to herself.
As a matter of fact, the sliding mechanism on the doubleshot (the REAL name of the phone) is rock solid. There are ZERO hinges in it.
The HTC VISION has hinges "z-hinge", and even that.... ROCK SOLID. I have one, its been dropped, its been flung, its been crushed, NOTHING came apart. The opening/closing action on it is the perfect balance between firm and functional.
I have ZERO complaints about either the Vision OR the Doubleshot. The Doubleshot is the GF's phone BTW, I'm not going to upgrade the Vision until there is an actual benefit from doing so.
Don't fret about the doubleshot's SLIDING mechanism -- its VERY solid.
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The g2 on the other hand, I could see this happening. The keyboard would probably open on that phone from the wind resistance on the way to the ground from your hand.
That phone has a weak hinge
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Spoken like someone who doesn't own one. I *do* own one, and I can attest to this being a completely inaccurate account of the hinge operation on the Vision.
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Spoken like someone who doesn't own one. I *do* own one, and I can attest to this being a completely inaccurate account of the hinge operation on the Vision.
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Ur right, my brother has it. he actually loaded the g2 keyboard with double sided tape and shut the phone so that it will never open again. His phone along with my friend's g2 would open if it was held from the back of the phone and faced the ground.
Maybe what I should have said was loose, not weak. My friend ended up fixing it by getting a new spring for the phone. He rebuilt it and it works great. The stock spring is usually bad out of the box (g2)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003310
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Waaaaah WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH.
I happen to actually own one. No modifications to it outside of the software realm. The spring tension on it is exactly perfect and I would ABSOLUTELY NOT like it if the spring was any harder.
The ENTIRE "problem" with the spring on the VISION (which is not a real problem) is related to most of those people who previously had an HTC DREAM. It had BULLDOZER SPRINGS on the screen, so naturally ANYTHING would seem weaker IN COMPARISON.
In fact, the design of HTC VISION doesn't really even need springs to begin with! GRAVITY will hold it in the proper position. The only way it will "randomly open" is if you INTENTIONALLY hold it wrong to prove a pointless point.
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Waaaaah WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH.
I happen to actually own one. No modifications to it outside of the software realm. The spring tension on it is exactly perfect and I would ABSOLUTELY NOT like it if the spring was any harder.
The ENTIRE "problem" with the spring on the VISION (which is not a real problem) is related to most of those people who previously had an HTC DREAM. It had BULLDOZER SPRINGS on the screen, so naturally ANYTHING would seem weaker IN COMPARISON.
In fact, the design of HTC VISION doesn't really even need springs to begin with! GRAVITY will hold it in the proper position. The only way it will "randomly open" is if you INTENTIONALLY hold it wrong to prove a pointless point.
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Hahaha, well what about when ur laying in bed using the keyboard and your screen falls down?
Anyways, not all phones are made the same, maybe your stock spring was on the better side of things.
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Your friend bought an old piece of junk and either;
a) knows it and doesn't want you to have something better,
b) kind of knows it and is trying to make excuses to herself.
As a matter of fact, the sliding mechanism on the doubleshot (the REAL name of the phone) is rock solid. There are ZERO hinges in it.
I have ZERO complaints about either the Vision OR the Doubleshot. The Doubleshot is the GF's phone BTW, I'm not going to upgrade the Vision until there is an actual benefit from doing so.
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Ok so I talked to my friend and I saw the sliding mechanism. I don't really know how to explain it...its like a train on tracks. I don't know if I make sense, but its kinda like that. She seemed pretty convinced the sliding mechanism works on a hinge and is really bad. She told me that's why she went with the 3G Slide. But even though she said that, I still REALLY want this phone. So the phone slides, and is not on a hinge?
BTW I know the real name...I just didn't think of using it
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Ok so I talked to my friend and I saw the sliding mechanism. I don't really know how to explain it...its like a train on tracks. I don't know if I make sense, but its kinda like that. She seemed pretty convinced the sliding mechanism works on a hinge and is really bad. She told me that's why she went with the 3G Slide. But even though she said that, I still REALLY want this phone. So the phone slides, and is not on a hinge?
BTW I know the real name...I just didn't think of using it
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The sliding part of the mt4gs is pro. Get it. This phone is 4 times faster than the 3g slide. If the slider on this phone had issues there would be threads about it. And if anyones 4gs ever split in two pieces on a drop, it would have been posted about on the forums, guaranteed. This is a good phone. The feel of the keyboard is not top notch, but its reliable and durable.
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There is no hinge on this phone. Why can't we just leave it at that? Weird thread...
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I dropped the Captivate yesterday. Because I had a silicon case and screen protector, seems like nothing happen, not even a small scratch. Hell no. After that the phone just couldn't send or receive any call!!! Calling from my friends' phones: just one ring and then it went to Voice mail box. Trying to call my friends: not even a ring, just "Call ended". Well, what was going on? I tried everything: switch the simcard to another phone, worked fine! Hard reset, flash back to stock, didn't help!
AT&T is sending me a new one (well, probably refurbished), but I just feel so disappointed with that. Only one drop! My previous Samsung Omnia has been dropped so many times, some times even the back cover and battery was out, but it still works smoothly!
sounds like you dropped it just right to severely damage the antenna
Man that sucks luckily you didn't scratch it up and they really couldn't pin point the problem and blame you
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Dropped mine today will running to my car. It landed face down (yikes!) and slid about 5 feet (YIKES!!!). I picked it up assuming the glass would be cracked or at least nicely scratched or the phone would simply not work. To my surprise, the screen looks totally unscathed and the phone still works fine. I have some lovely scratches on the plastic casing either side of the screen which sucks but they are hardly noticeable.
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I had my phone go straight to voicemail once, i thought that was wierd. Other than that nothing out of the ordinary. The phone works well for me including the GPS, which I know a lot of people complained about.
So I was probably unlucky though. Of course the good thing is the phone has no scratch, but that is what I would expect. I dont know if the drop affected the antenna, as I could still see at least 3 bars of signal. Just weird. Good thing that you guy, who have dropped the phone at least one, did not experience the same problem as mine. So I guess I can still love the Captivate though . Otherwise, I hate to see the chuckle in my room-mate's face, who has an iPhone
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So I was probably unlucky though. Of course the good thing is the phone has no scratch, but that is what I would expect. I dont know if the drop affected the antenna, as I could still see at least 3 bars of signal. Just weird. Good thing that you guy, who have dropped the phone at least one, did not experience the same problem as mine. So I guess I can still love the Captivate though . Otherwise, I hate to see the chuckle in my room-mate's face, who has an iPhone
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I hope that'd be one of those nervous "ha ha we're in the same boat now, mine came with a damaged antenna out of the box" chuckles. j/k
Anyway, that's weird that it still shows a few bars but doesn't connect.. Maybe you somehow shook part of the antenna's connector loose?
Well, I guess the silicon/rubber case should help a little bit to avoid things like that happen. I cant imagine how bad it was if I didnt have the case.
ive dropped my cappy numerous times. thank god it has the bodyglove (while waiting for the otterbox) which seemed to take the abuse well. i think you just got unlucky
yeah sounds like u damaged the antenna
I would try changing the similar card before anything. I work for att and a lot of times people drop their phones and as a result have no service and I just change the similar card and it works 99% of the time.
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Godd advice, and by the the way SIM stands for Subscriber Identity Module, and not similar, but since you work for AT&T, we don't expect you to know that.
rajendra82 said:
Godd advice, and by the the way SIM stands for Subscriber Identity Module, and not similar, but since you work for AT&T, we don't expect you to know that.
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I'm hoping that was a his/her keyboard changed it or at least I hope so
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rajendra82 said:
Godd advice, and by the the way SIM stands for Subscriber Identity Module, and not similar, but since you work for AT&T, we don't expect you to know that.
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I think we have a swype victim...
rajendra82 said:
Godd advice, and by the the way SIM stands for Subscriber Identity Module, and not similar, but since you work for AT&T, we don't expect you to know that.
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And of course, it's "good advice" and not "godd advice". But then who am I to nitpick?
(Had to remove the URL as I am still new to the forums.)
Yep keyboard changed sim card to similar card on me. Couldn't edit the post cause I'm new and I had to wait 5 minutes to re-post. By the way not all at&t reps are complete morons. I admit some are totally incompetent. In fact, the general consensus amongst at&t sales reps is most customers couldn't wipe their own ass without first confiding in an experienced ass wiper for a step by step solution.
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Yep keyboard changed sim card to similar card on me. Couldn't edit the post cause I'm new and I had to wait 5 minutes to re-post. By the way not all at&t reps are complete morons. I admit some are totally incompetent. In fact, the general consensus amongst at&t sales reps is most customers couldn't wipe their own ass without first confiding in an experienced ass wiper for a step by step solution.
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That's because most people ARE stupid.
I've dropped mine once or twice but no problems that I've noticed. Not even a scratch.
The gray plastic and metal back cover mark easily but the black plastic and glass are very tough the Samsung videos prove that. But glass is glass and is far from indestuctable. Other than that I have completely disasembled my phone and it is very rugged. Not much room for things to break. A strong cast aluminum chassis backs the touch screen and strong feeling plastic back plate. Everything has good support. I've dropped mine many times without fear and have no ill effects.
My friends iphone 4 however has a broken screen and his insurance is $15 a month. Mine is $5. That makes me feel great about my decision to abandon apple.
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Hello,
Sorry, I accidentally posted this in the Desire HD forum first (not that it should really matter of course).
I've started to notice that the glass on my Inspire 4G is making a slight snapping noise and moving a bit sometimes when I press on the corners, almost as if the glass is lifting slightly over time. Once I press the corners, it is fine for a few minutes, then I can do it again, hearing the snapping noises.
I want to root my phone and install RCMix HD, but I don't want to void my warranty if the glass is going to lift off my screen in a few months. Is anyone else seeing this issue? Other than this and poor battery life, I absolutely love the phone. It's a HUGE improvement over the xdandroid experience on my Touch Pro 2.
Anyone else with this problem?
gnnash said:
Hello,
Sorry, I accidentally posted this in the Desire HD forum first (not that it should really matter of course).
I've started to notice that the glass on my Inspire 4G is making a slight snapping noise and moving a bit sometimes when I press on the corners, almost as if the glass is lifting slightly over time. Once I press the corners, it is fine for a few minutes, then I can do it again, hearing the snapping noises.
I want to root my phone and install RCMix HD, but I don't want to void my warranty if the glass is going to lift off my screen in a few months. Is anyone else seeing this issue? Other than this and poor battery life, I absolutely love the phone. It's a HUGE improvement over the xdandroid experience on my Touch Pro 2.
Anyone else with this problem?
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Yes, others have complained about the screen lifting. If you are within the 30 day return policy, you can try to exchange it. I don't think it'll completely come off over a long period of time.
yea, i didn't notice till after my 30 days were up. Still trying to find time to call HTC about it, Bugs the crap out of me! I'm sure it will lift to the point of dirt and moisture getting under there though. Damn tape!
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yea, i didn't notice till after my 30 days were up. Still trying to find time to call HTC about it, Bugs the crap out of me! I'm sure it will lift to the point of dirt and moisture getting under there though. Damn tape!
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If you bought the phone from at&t, they can do a warranty exchange or like you said, call HTC and see what they can do. If you rooted your phone, you need to bring it back to factory original state prior to returning it to either HTC or at&t.
Radio Shack, i bet they'd tell me to jump in a lake. AT&T told me to call HTC
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Radio Shack, i bet they'd tell me to jump in a lake. AT&T told me to call HTC
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LOL. HTC will do a warranty exchange. Not sure if rat shack will care.
If I do bring it in for a warranty exchange, will the next one just do the same thing? Is this common to all Inspires, or are most alright?
I know others have complained about the screen lifting or moving near the search key. Others have also complained about the lcd making funny colors while pressing on the search key. I guess its a hit or miss.
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Mine is also doing it
Sometimes it gets really bad and so annoying knowing that later through normal use eventually the glass will come off and or get all kinds of dust/lint under the glass.
I got mine @ Costco on launch day and they mentioned 90 days to replace if defective and after 90 days that I would have to deal with HTC for warranty? Is this true has anyone else dealt with Costcos wireless, will they replace it?
Funny thing is on launch day my brand new Inspire had white specks of lint under the glass and within the week I got it replaced and they agreed its defective.
So this could be an uprising defect.
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I bought mine directly from AT&T, and am still in my buyer's remorse period. So my biggest decision is whether to get another Inspire 4G or to switch to another phone. I love this phone, but don't want to get another if it is going to have the same problem. However, I don't know what other phone I would get in its place.
My corner by the search button is now visibly elevated. Either I just now noticed this, or it is rapidly getting worse. At this rate, I feel the glass would be off completely by next month.
kirk123 said:
I know others have complained about the screen lifting or moving near the search key. Others have also complained about the lcd making funny colors while pressing on the search key. I guess its a hit or miss.
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There is no lifting or moving on mine, though I can get a tiny bit of distortion if I hold down the search key firmly, however, you really have to press hard to get that, in normal use it is fine.
Edit-I guess some of this is like the patient who tells his doctor "it hurts when I move my arm this weird way", to which the doctor responds "Don't move it that way"
Damn... Mine is doing the same thing. This is bothersome...
It's not noticeable for me, unless I concentrate on it while I'm pressing on it. Also, if I hit the search button like others here, it discolors the screen.
Are there people out there who this doesn't happen to?
I'm considering "upgrading" to the Atrix. I really love the Inspire, but if it's just going to fall apart or get dust under the screen, I won't be able to handle it. The battery life of the Atrix entices me too, but there's just something special about the Inspire...
How long is the warranty on our phones? I suppose I could just replace it a few times before the warranty is up, but if my last replacement has the same issue later... I just don't know.
I sure wish that AT&T would have nabbed the Sensation. Then I would be switching right now, no question.
It's a "feature"
Mine does it, but it doesn't effect the phone. It's in a case so I don't even notice it now.
gnnash said:
Are there people out there who this doesn't happen to?
I'm considering "upgrading" to the Atrix. I really love the Inspire, but if it's just going to fall apart or get dust under the screen, I won't be able to handle it. The battery life of the Atrix entices me too, but there's just something special about the Inspire...
How long is the warranty on our phones? I suppose I could just replace it a few times before the warranty is up, but if my last replacement has the same issue later... I just don't know.
I sure wish that AT&T would have nabbed the Sensation. Then I would be switching right now, no question.
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I wouldn't consider that an "upgrade". The manufactures warranty lasts a year.
Seems the only solution to fix this problem is to hit the search button with a hammer xD.
All jokes a side as long as there is no dust and the glass isn't seriously falling out of the phone, I would just chalk it up as normal. Every phone has its quirks.
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mudknot2005 said:
I wouldn't consider that an "upgrade". The manufactures warranty lasts a year.
Seems the only solution to fix this problem is to hit the search button with a hammer xD.
All jokes a side as long as there is no dust and the glass isn't seriously falling out of the phone, I would just chalk it up as normal. Every phone has its quirks.
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Hence the quotes around "upgrade"
Anyway, I agree that every phone has its quirks, and that's fine. For me, the relatively short battery life of the Inspire is a quirk. But a lifting screen isn't a quirk, but a straight-up defect. A defect should never be considered "normal", even if it happens to all phones of a certain model.
I'm going to go and exchange the phone this afternoon. If the display model at the store is okay, with no lifted screen, I will go with the Inspire again. If the display model is lifted as well, I may go with the Atrix. Hopefully the bootloader protection will be broken someday, and development will flourish.
It really is a bummer for me though, as I really do love my inspire.
By the way, just got off the phone with HTC to see if this was a known issue that was being fixed in manufacturing. Apparently, my representative had never heard of the problem. Must be so slight that most people aren't noticing the problem.
Anyway, It sounds like it isn't being actively worked on to fix the issue.
If i push the glass in the corner of the search key, i can feel the glass mive and it creeks too.
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My right lower corner bleeds out a little if I push on it real hard and so does the left side but screen is not elevated at all. it's as flat as it can be. There is no dust trapped. This phone is like 1 month old. I also went to the at&t store and checked out to the display model and all are the same but none had the screen elevated.
This may be an individual issue. But I also tried to push the atrix and captivate on the right lower corner and they dont bleed.
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Talk about a pita, I have been transferred to everyone under the sun at htc and at&t with no one telling me anything but send it in. I don't know about you, but I can't live without my phone for that long due to work.
Should've bought it at Best Buy. Geek squad protection plan is expensive but very well worth it for oh crap moments or times like these.
Is everyone else's power button on the ATT HOX feel like it's hard to push? Maybe not hard to push but it's such a low profile that I feel that I am having problems pushing it... Hard to explain. Just making sure there isn't something wrong with the phone that I have. Just took back a case to Best buy because the power button was soooo hard to push in it. Sometimes didn't register.
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Not just you. I'm having a hard time getting used to it from my old Captivate. (Of course it's about 12 times better in every other category, so I'm not too upset!)
Oh I'm not upset.....I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S2 and this phone is by far the best phone I've ever used so far but since every phone I've ever used has had a raised power button be it on the side or top, I was just worried that maybe I got a defect but I guess I didn't.
That's why I love this board. So friendly and polite. Thank you.
AJ
Hmm... Was your case the platinum holster one? That's what I'm using right now and It's kinda ridiculous how hard it is to press. It registers maybe 25% of the time I press it. I use my nail now though so it works every time almost.
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LOL! Yep sure was. Took it back to Best Buy and the returns lady said that this was the third one she had seen today returned! I just want a simple silicone case with good protection and camera lip thing. Is there anything like that out there for the ATT HOX?
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AJ
Hehe, thought it might be the same one. I noticed the packaging to my case was actually opened when I bought it. Someone might have returned it Sunday morning xD.
Not really sure what other cases are available that fit correctly. I recommend not getting one on eBay. Most block the camera. There's a thread about cases and pouches in the accessories section.
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I just actually picked up that case today! I'm going to return it as well because I too am having a difficult time pressing it. Also, the fourth row of the speaker grill was also being covered. Pretty poor design.
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I got a rocketfish gel/silicone semitransparent grey case at best buy for $25...it is light, fits snug and doesn't cover the speaker..covers the back well so that when you sit it down, the camera lens is in no danger of being scratched as the camera protrudes a little bit without case...I have same issue w power button but it's not hard to press...it's that it's so low profile that its hard to feel it...fantastic phone and battery is amazing...got 26 hrs out of first charge...got about 9 on my Vivid...but it was a 1600 mah battery where this one is 1800 or 1850, not sure though..and phone is about 1.5 ounces lighter..battery is better because it is embedded...you lose power anytime you 'plug" in a battery where the contacts are...this battery is directly on the board so there is no loss...same principle applies to hard wired appliances compared to those with plugs...coax cables with multiple splitters result in signal degradation on tvs...I think this is why HTC opted for embedded batteries as people complained about battery life...although my various iPhones in the past had poor battery life...but it is best to charge phone ONLY when battery is down to 10% or less...every time u charge, you lose approximately 30-45 seconds of total battery per charge so the less you charge the better...
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Seriously? Do you really think your great batterylife is due to it being "embedded"(which it really isnt) and not having contacts(still has a connector)? Really?
Do you really think you lose 30seconds off your battery life by charging it before it is run down?
Ponderous.
Really erroneous info guy. Not helping. Did you just decide to make things up?
Battery life is better because of improvements with hardware. It uses less juice. PERIOD.
Lithium ion is extremely tolerant of charging from any level. Should have no adverse effect if you charge at any time, full, empty or in between.
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LOL. Who cares. Good phone. End of story
YES, what I said is correct and not eronious as you said...been in electronics business for 30 years..I could go into greater detail but it would be over your infant understanding of how electronics work...of course the hardware helps bit that's just part of it..I was programming computers when the IBM 8088 chip came out as well as a wide range of electronic devices...I'm not trying to blow my own horn but I do know what I'm talking about...you should do your due diligence before you try and bash someone...and people wonder why many people left XDA who were a big help...I've never posted ROMs for this reason...I was thinking about it, but people like you just confirm my reservations..amateur...
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YES, what I said is correct and not eronious as you said...been in electronics business for 30 years..I could go into greater detail but it would be over your infant understanding of how electronics work...of course the hardware helps bit that's just part of it..I was programming computers when the IBM 8088 chip came out as well as a wide range of electronic devices...I'm not trying to blow my own horn but I do know what I'm talking about...you should do your due diligence before you try and bash someone...and people wonder why many people left XDA who were a big help...I've never posted ROMs for this reason...I was thinking about it, but people like you just confirm my reservations..amateur...
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Wooooo calm down. Just cite some sources
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Wooooo calm down. Just cite some sources
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He doesn't have any, at least not anything recent and reinvent. It's all just tacit knowledge. Amirite?
(This is just my fun way of getting you to give us a source)
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I love how my thread was hijacked lol.
mine is hard to push with the black&white speck case. but without a case its easy to push...
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YES, what I said is correct and not eronious as you said...been in electronics business for 30 years..I could go into greater detail but it would be over your infant understanding of how electronics work...of course the hardware helps bit that's just part of it..I was programming computers when the IBM 8088 chip came out as well as a wide range of electronic devices...I'm not trying to blow my own horn but I do know what I'm talking about...you should do your due diligence before you try and bash someone...and people wonder why many people left XDA who were a big help...I've never posted ROMs for this reason...I was thinking about it, but people like you just confirm my reservations..amateur...
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Was your 8088 hardwired to your A/C at home so it was more efficient? Programming != electrical engineering.
Yes there is a TINY bit of loss by using contacts. It's an easy check with an ohmmeter. But it really only applies to high current applications, which we are not dealing with here. And no, it's not enough to make any measurable difference. And your coax analogy is ridiculous. We aren't dealing with gain, SNR, taps, etc. Geez.
Going back on topic, I now get 95% registers with the power button. If you press on the far left of the button it works almost every time with the platinum case. I think it just needed to be broken in.
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Same here, but mine is worst cause this case that I have, has a hard rubber button
Ok austinguy, you really don't get it. I design, install and deploy:corporate networks, infrastructure(copper, coax, fiber), telephone systems(voip, copper, t1), install electrical systems, CCTV(dvr, network), wireless solutions(point to point, mesh, custom antennas), satellite, etc, etc. I have many years of learned and hands on first hand experience with the software, hardware, and real world implementation.
I stand by the facts.
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borismanalo said:
Same here, but mine is worst cause this case that I have, has a hard rubber button
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Mine is hard rubber too. Which case did you buy?
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Ok austinguy, you really don't get it. I design, install and deploy:corporate networks, infrastructure(copper, coax, fiber), telephone systems(voip, copper, t1), install electrical systems, CCTV(dvr, network), wireless solutions(point to point, mesh, custom antennas), satellite, etc, etc. I have many years of learned and hands on first hand experience with the software, hardware, and real world implementation.
I stand by the facts.
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Sounds a lot like what I do. What's your point? Doesn't Make you an expert in lithium-ion batteries now does it? Well... I guess the high-grade UPS systems we work with could, but you didn't list that or just don't work with them.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26906002
Yes, I have a great idea. Let's have antennas put in the case of the phone, so we have to use crappy little leaf-spring type connectors just to have a connection to the phone. Then, to make it even better, let's have the case made of polycarbonate so it can bend. And to help with even better design, let's make the connectors so thin and crappy that bending them at all stresses them enough to make it not spring back up, and then trying to bend it back will likely snap the connectors. Because we need ideal antenna design, never mind the fact that an antenna is useless when it can't connect to the modem that needs it.
HTC has pulled this idiocy before, it happened with the Desire HD's GPS, it happened with the Sensation's WiFi and touch screen, now it's happening again. It is beyond me why they insist on doing this when Samsung is getting by perfectly fine by just having the antennas sit beneath the case. What happened to plastic being RF transparent? This is probably one of the few things that really riles me up about HTC, simply because they never seem to realize why the Galaxy S2 and S3 are more popular. When they can't even get basic antennas right, how do they expect people to be repeat customers?
EDIT: No, this doesn't affect the phone when everything is fine, but this can be part of the reason why there are wifi issues/general reception problems.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but it is probably just you or a software problem. I have played with many H1X's, including 2 of which are my own, and never had the problem you described. Perhaps you have a defective unit?
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I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but it is probably just you or a software problem. I have played with many H1X's, including 2 of which are my own, and never had the problem you described. Perhaps you have a defective unit?
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I don't own an H1X, I have a Desire HD but frequent multiple device forums.
Yes, you may not have a problem, but this design makes it incredibly easy to break Wifi/BT, and any other antennas that are connected to the phone in this manner.
Yes, if the connection breaks, it is a defective unit. My problem is that if you squeeze the back case often enough or have the phone overheat (likely if you have the Tegra 3 variant and use it as an in car GPS) then you will destroy the connection. Designs where the antennas are not in the case will never have this happen unless you somehow physically melt the connection between the antenna and motherboard or it is torn off, both are incredibly unlikely to happen.
It doesn't matter whether your phone has this issue, it is likely to happen and HTC needs to be pressured into changing their designs so this issue never crops up again.
Another whine thread...just what we need. Speak with your money if it bothers you.
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I guess that explains why my first One X had no wifi (could never connect0 and it was that top left glass corner lifted up enough from the device that light came out of the crack.
But guess what? Got another while I wait on my warranty repair (no exchange because no stock).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26906002
Yes, I have a great idea. Let's have antennas put in the case of the phone, so we have to use crappy little leaf-spring type connectors just to have a connection to the phone. Then, to make it even better, let's have the case made of polycarbonate so it can bend. And to help with even better design, let's make the connectors so thin and crappy that bending them at all stresses them enough to make it not spring back up, and then trying to bend it back will likely snap the connectors. Because we need ideal antenna design, never mind the fact that an antenna is useless when it can't connect to the modem that needs it.
HTC has pulled this idiocy before, it happened with the Desire HD's GPS, it happened with the Sensation's WiFi and touch screen, now it's happening again. It is beyond me why they insist on doing this when Samsung is getting by perfectly fine by just having the antennas sit beneath the case. What happened to plastic being RF transparent? This is probably one of the few things that really riles me up about HTC, simply because they never seem to realize why the Galaxy S2 and S3 are more popular. When they can't even get basic antennas right, how do they expect people to be repeat customers?
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The s2 and 3 are more popular not because of any of the reason you have stated.
But in case you're wondering despite HTC being abandoned by "expert" users aka xda members () HTC's customer satisfaction ranking has always been higher than Samsung. Google it.
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powerwagon said:
Another whine thread...just what we need. Speak with your money if it bothers you.
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There is no problem with the connectors, and as far as I can tell, touchscreen problems only exist when swapping batteries, and continuously chatting then in the phone. If you use an external charger and swap batteries, there is no problem. So its not the connector, but static buildup from continuously charging dead batteries. Yes it is a problembut goes away when using the phone as intended(charging just one battery per charge cycle).
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There is no problem with the connectors, and as far as I can tell, touchscreen problems only exist when swapping batteries, and continuously chatting then in the phone. If you use an external charger and swap batteries, there is no problem. So its not the connector, but static buildup from continuously charging dead batteries. Yes it is a problembut goes away when using the phone as intended(charging just one battery per charge cycle).
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The problem was the fact that the touchscreen grounding was on a spring that was supposed to touch the phone, and over time if you removed the back cover often enough it would start losing contact.
From the tear down pics there isn't much thats not built right onto the mobo. I have used many android phones, and really enjor the One X, I just think a lot of people don't give the device a chance. I mean I have had a few software issues, but nothing that makes me want to return the phone, it will all get fixed in time.
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From the tear down pics there isn't much thats not built right onto the mobo. I have used many android phones, and really enjor the One X, I just think a lot of people don't give the device a chance. I mean I have had a few software issues, but nothing that makes me want to return the phone, it will all get fixed in time.
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The problem is with the antenna connectors. I would not be so concerned if there was a ribbon cable or something that connected antennas to the motherboard, but I know that the type of design that they use is very easily broken.
"You're holding it wrong" - Steve Jobs
Haven't had any wifi problems with mine
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My connection seems to flicker. It'll be five bars but then out of nowhere I'd lose my connection for like 3 seconds. Very annoying. I have a ht24
Most every HTC phone nowadays has that antenna design; my Rezound also use spring connectors to the seperate backplate antennas. I have pits in my antennas from use, but no significant signal loss thanks to the rigid case design keeping the connections solid.
The relatively flexible case of the HOX really could interfere and needs a different connection method. The battery is non-removable, yet they just stuck with what they knew how to do anyway.
PhantasmRezound said:
Most every HTC phone nowadays has that antenna design; my Rezound also use spring connectors to the seperate backplate antennas. I have pits in my antennas from use, but no significant signal loss thanks to the rigid case design keeping the connections solid.
The relatively flexible case of the HOX really could interfere and needs a different connection method. The battery is non-removable, yet they just stuck with what they knew how to do anyway.
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Probably because it's a working, effective design that has been implemented in almost every phone they make. No reason to change it. What's the term... "tried and true".
My old HTC Aria had the most flexible back cover ever, and the connection was fine after over 2 years of non stop service. I'm sure this phone won't have any issues, especially considering it is a unibody design.
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I love reading someone's complaint about a phone only to realize further down in my reading that op doesn't even own the phone. Super fail lol.
On the other hand, my reception has been great. There is even this one crazy spot where I'd never get reception or data connectivity at work and now with this phone it actually works in said location! Love it.
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Complaining about a phone you don't own?
credibility lost right there..
move on.. to your sgs3
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Complaining about a phone you don't own?
credibility lost right there..
move on.. to your sgs3
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Complaining because the last thing I want is a GS3.
You're holding it wrong.
I wish an "engineering" team built the one x, but they used a new "design" team because they wanted it to be stylish. Ponderous. Why worry about the back/shape of a phone when the majority puts it in a case and will never see or feel the back. Build quality should be the driving force, not design. Antennas should be HARD WIRED, period. All these pogo or spring style connectors have issues. I work with point to point wireless links and any connector has loss. 1db loss on a good connector. Spring and pogo are a bad idea and definitely causing too much loss.
I have an Inspire and TFPrime. Two big offenders. I have cleaned and retensioned all three on the inspire and it helped for about 3 mos, but GPS is getting flaky again. Going to HARD WIRE GPS antenna and be done with it. Basically what HTC should have done from the start.
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It seems like the comic sans of the phone world to me. Its rounded and ugly. The power button is awkwardly placed on top. The genius button is useless. The other buttons (home/menu/back) shouldn't be tactile buttons at all, are we going backwards? (I guess some of you like it..) the only features I actually like are the front facing camera, and the Alt/Shift indicator lights on the hardware keyboard. And don't get me started on the camera LEDs. There's TWO of them, they should be ten times brighter, when I'm fumbling around at night id like a strong flash light in my pocket. Is it absolutely nessecary to have that ugly appauling "8mp camera" nonsense on the battery door? Gah. I'm literally buying a powermat and the appropriate battery door just so I don't have to look at that eyesore. The whole experience just seems cheap. I guess I'm just butt hurt that my G2 kicked the bucket and I was forced into this phone.
Anyone else? Sorry for my rant.
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Supovitz said:
I'm just butt hurt that my G2 kicked the bucket and I was forced into this phone.
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I am with you 100% on this statement. I hate this phone. I fear I'm going to have to stray from HTC... and I don't like that.
Yes I hate my doubleshot with a passion.
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Come on, it's not that bad. I quite like it, it's been about a year or so now, I'm getting used to it. Some of the drawbacks you mentioned can be fixed by looking around on XDA. I miss my G2 at times, but still, I'm fairly happy with the Doubleshot, apart from the fact that HTC kind of skimped on RAM, and that it'll never see stock ICS.
still best in its category
I just don't get how people complain about this phone.
Sliders are becoming obsolete (HTC has said they are not making any more).
Let's look at it objectively. If you have this phone it means you wanted a slider and are on T-Mobile (or you got it as a replacement for an older slider that broke - then you really lucked out not having to pay for an upgrade!).
I personally bought it brand new 6 months ago for $370 (no tax or shipping) and use it with Simple Mobile's $40 everything (2.5G) plan.
For that moderate cost I am getting the perfect form factor (in my opinion) just a little too heavy. A good dual core processor, above average camera, decent screen and a sliding keyboard.
While I wouldn't have minded a slightly larger screen, this is really the best of both worlds. I leave my screen locked in portrait most of the time and it is a great size for one handed use. Then I can slide out the keyboard (mine has decent feedback, the keys are very legible, and Blue made a zip to turn the menu etc keys into direction keys) and type two handed or just use it in landscape for browsing etc. It is also easy to turn the genius button into a regular search button.
I love the track pad (and track pad wake), the fact that I can go directly to camera with shutter button (which many phones lack altogether) and also unlock by sliding open the phone.
As for ROMs I just left ICS splashed to CM9 ICS Alpha 5 and am having a great time.
I have 2 Anker batteries and charger which cost about $28.
What more could you ask for? In fact - liking the slider - where could I go from here?
I biggest, and really only, qualm with the phone is the keyboard itself.
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I just don't get how people complain about this phone.
Sliders are becoming obsolete (HTC has said they are not making any more).
Let's look at it objectively. If you have this phone it means you wanted a slider and are on T-Mobile (or you got it as a replacement for an older slider that broke - then you really lucked out not having to pay for an upgrade!).
I personally bought it brand new 6 months ago for $370 (no tax or shipping) and use it with Simple Mobile's $40 everything (2.5G) plan.
For that moderate cost I am getting the perfect form factor (in my opinion) just a little too heavy. A good dual core processor, above average camera, decent screen and a sliding keyboard.
While I wouldn't have minded a slightly larger screen, this is really the best of both worlds. I leave my screen locked in portrait most of the time and it is a great size for one handed use. Then I can slide out the keyboard (mine has decent feedback, the keys are very legible, and Blue made a zip to turn the menu etc keys into direction keys) and type two handed or just use it in landscape for browsing etc. It is also easy to turn the genius button into a regular search button.
I love the track pad (and track pad wake), the fact that I can go directly to camera with shutter button (which many phones lack altogether) and also unlock by sliding open the phone.
As for ROMs I just left ICS splashed to CM9 ICS Alpha 5 and am having a great time.
I have 2 Anker batteries and charger which cost about $28.
What more could you ask for? In fact - liking the slider - where could I go from here?
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The G2/Desire Z has all those features. Slide, shutter button, ect. When mine finally died (the ribbon cable inbetween the screen and keyboard slideout worn out from sliding) I did my research and was excited that there was a dual-core out there with similar/better specs.
I went from the G1, to the G2 and now the MT4GS and there's a clear difference. I think HTC dropped the ball with overall quality with this one.
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The genius button is useless.
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Well, by default it turns your device into a hands free object - paired with a bluetooth headset you can do anything with your phone while it's in your pocket.
I don't like nor use the genius function, and so in my rom changed what the key does to the default search function it usually is on a smart phone.
You could do the same with yours, and swap out the function of the button to anything else you want.
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The other buttons (home/menu/back) shouldn't be tactile buttons at all, are we going backwards? (I guess some of you like it..)
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This was a bonus for me, I don't like the flat keys on the screen, but rather prefer the tactile feel of the button press. The LG knockoff of this device has the flat buttons and i'm glad HTC went with the choice they did. Yea, count me in the 'like it' camp
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And don't get me started on the camera LEDs. There's TWO of them, they should be ten times brighter, when I'm fumbling around at night id like a strong flash light in my pocket.
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This is controlled directly from within the kernel source. Making it brighter is simply changing one variable and compiling - you can go as bright as you want.
Buddy of mine has an HTC inspire, and we noticed his flashlight was brighter by a little bit, and he was getting all "finally found something my phone does better then you" for a bit - well, I found the line in kernel source that determines that and tweaked it.
Hah, it was so funny, we were in a garage one night and needed a flashlight, so of course he pulled his out and started talking smack on mine to the other two of our friends there. He told me to pull mine out and show them, and I refused a couple of times, until he started talking smack on me for not showing them.
Fine, I said, and pulled it out. I tapped the flashlight app, and you'd think the damn sun just came up and fell on the driveway behind us. It was pretty funny and I was giggling about it for a couple of weeks. Now I just harass my friend over his flashlight
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I guess I'm just butt hurt that my G2 kicked the bucket and I was forced into this phone.
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Sorry to hear that man - it doesn't matter what you were given, if it wasn't another G2 you'd hate it, and find reasons to hate it, because you weren't through yet with a device you had come to love.
I get it, and feel for you.
Definitely hold onto the slide, it'll grow on you and you'll find you really like it - but in the meantime, why not look into finding a cheap used G2 to help you make the transition?
I am sure you could find one that's in good shape for not too much money if you hunt around a little, craigslist and ebay and such - might even find someone floating around XDA with one to sell.
The only thing I really "hate" about this phone is the fact that it's not going to get ICS. Why is Google standing for HTC just giving up on an Android phone like that? The specs are comparable to anything released today. I just don't get it.
Keyboard is not that great, sure, but nothing that conjures hatred aside from the ICS stuff.
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Well, by default it turns your device into a hands free object - paired with a bluetooth headset you can do anything with your phone while it's in your pocket.
I don't like nor use the genius function, and so in my rom changed what the key does to the default search function it usually is on a smart phone.
You could do the same with yours, and swap out the function of the button to anything else you want.
This was a bonus for me, I don't like the flat keys on the screen, but rather prefer the tactile feel of the button press. The LG knockoff of this device has the flat buttons and i'm glad HTC went with the choice they did. Yea, count me in the 'like it' camp
This is controlled directly from within the kernel source. Making it brighter is simply changing one variable and compiling - you can go as bright as you want.
Buddy of mine has an HTC inspire, and we noticed his flashlight was brighter by a little bit, and he was getting all "finally found something my phone does better then you" for a bit - well, I found the line in kernel source that determines that and tweaked it.
Hah, it was so funny, we were in a garage one night and needed a flashlight, so of course he pulled his out and started talking smack on mine to the other two of our friends there. He told me to pull mine out and show them, and I refused a couple of times, until he started talking smack on me for not showing them.
Fine, I said, and pulled it out. I tapped the flashlight app, and you'd think the damn sun just came up and fell on the driveway behind us. It was pretty funny and I was giggling about it for a couple of weeks. Now I just harass my friend over his flashlight
Sorry to hear that man - it doesn't matter what you were given, if it wasn't another G2 you'd hate it, and find reasons to hate it, because you weren't through yet with a device you had come to love.
I get it, and feel for you.
Definitely hold onto the slide, it'll grow on you and you'll find you really like it - but in the meantime, why not look into finding a cheap used G2 to help you make the transition?
I am sure you could find one that's in good shape for not too much money if you hunt around a little, craigslist and ebay and such - might even find someone floating around XDA with one to sell.
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This is exactly how a dissagrement post should look like. Thanks for being civil and expressing your opinion in a humorous manner. :highfive:
I have my Genius button remapped to instantly power off my device. and I knew there had to be some way to increase the brightness, I'll have to do some more digging. heh. :fingers-crossed: Thanks bro!
I too am not overly happy with the mt4gs. This is the replacement i was offered for my G2. The keyboard isnt as nice or it just takes some getting used too. BUT...... Im moving on. Asurion called me about an hour ago to follow up on the replacement phone. After i politely told them i was not happy with it, i was asked what they could do to fix this. I asked them if i could swap the phone for something different. He made a few offers of phones i was not familiar with. Then I asked about the amaze or sensation, he seemed to lean away from the sensation. I settled on the amaze, but did ask about the new s one. He said that would be too much of an upgrade to try and do. So my amaze will be here tomorrow.
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... and I knew there had to be some way to increase the brightness, I'll have to do some more digging. heh. :fingers-crossed: Thanks bro!
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My dev computer is a couple hundred miles away in another state, but if I remember right it's in arch/arm/mach-msm/board-doubleshot.c
Somewhere there is a block of code that deals with flash leds, should be [0] and [1] to represent both led lights. You will be able to set the max brightness.
The stock battery issues with this device are the reason HTC was conservative, maybe overly so, with every line of code on this device. Everything is programmed well under spec.
Pretty sure that was the only code you have to mess with, been a while, but that should be it.
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My dev computer is a couple hundred miles away in another state, but if I remember right it's in arch/arm/mach-msm/board-doubleshot.c
Somewhere there is a block of code that deals with flash leds, should be [0] and [1] to represent both led lights. You will be able to set the max brightness.
The stock battery issues with this device are the reason HTC was conservative, maybe overly so, with every line of code on this device. Everything is programmed well under spec.
Pretty sure that was the only code you have to mess with, been a while, but that should be it.
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Ok so I'm in that file and in reference to flashlight all I'm seeing is a 1. Also I see a .low_cap-limit 30 is that battery power the flash for camera cuts off at
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strapped365 said:
Ok so I'm in that file and in reference to flashlight all I'm seeing is a 1. Also I see a .low_cap-limit 30 is that battery power the flash for camera cuts off at
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I got curious and pulled the original source release - in that file around line 3039 (as far as gedit says, anyways) is the block I was thinking of.
Not sure with the most current source release, I haven't caught up yet. This little netbook I picked up for small stuff on the road bigger then the phone can handle would melt if I tried to compile, so haven't pulled that from HTC yet - it may be different in the most current source release.
Here is what I was looking at:
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static struct pmic8058_led pmic8058_flash_leds[] = {
[0] = {
.name = "camera:flash0",
.max_brightness = 15,
.id = PMIC8058_ID_FLASH_LED_0,
},
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.name = "camera:flash1",
.max_brightness = 15,
.id = PMIC8058_ID_FLASH_LED_1,
},
};
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I had printed out every .c file in mach-msm to physical paper and read it like a book when kernel source was released, so I have little remnants of everything floating around in my head - i just looked back at the file and saw what you meant about the flashlight reference. In this case, though, the intensity for the light was covered around the camera stuff, guess they thought it would be easier that way.
Blue6IX said:
I got curious and pulled the original source release - in that file around line 3039 (as far as gedit says, anyways) is the block I was thinking of.
Not sure with the most current source release, I haven't caught up yet. This little netbook I picked up for small stuff on the road bigger then the phone can handle would melt if I tried to compile, so haven't pulled that from HTC yet - it may be different in the most current source release.
Here is what I was looking at:
Code:
static struct pmic8058_led pmic8058_flash_leds[] = {
[0] = {
.name= "camera:flash0",
.max_brightness = 15,
.id= PMIC8058_ID_FLASH_LED_0,
},
[1] = {
.name= "camera:flash1",
.max_brightness = 15,
.id= PMIC8058_ID_FLASH_LED_1,
},
};
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I had printed out every .c file in mach-msm to physical paper and read it like a book when kernel source was released, so I have little remnants of everything floating around in my head - i just looked back at the file and saw what you meant about the flashlight reference. In this case, though, the intensity for the light was covered around the camera stuff, guess they thought it would be easier that way.
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Ok so I just found them. Would 30 be an increase there
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Personally I loved my G2. Great phone, aesthetically awesome. Great quality, besides the spring slide issue. BUT. I have to say although there are some places I would prefer improvement on the MT4GS. It's not a bad phone.
It is a slide for one, maybe keyboard wise not as good as the G2 but still. A slide nonetheless which there are little Android devices that still keep the feature. Another thing? It's a dual-core, certainly not a huge deal but still it'll keep the phone in the game for quite a bit. Uses the S3 with the Adreno 220 which are more than capable CPU and "GPU" in their own regard. Both hold up to the specs of the G-Note.
IDK, maybe that's me but we have many capable devs working hard on ICS, certainly not stock ICS but still ICS nonetheless. Hopefully HTC releases a One series version that will replace the G2 or the MT4GS.
I love this device . I always liked the mytouch line my favorite was the MT4G but this phone is excellent . Ive dropped it soooo many times and it keeps on going . The wider focal length of the camera makes for great pictures . the only thing I dont like is the keyboard and the lack of feedback when a button is pushed.
other than that? Doubleshot is great . Im not going to buy another phone till this one dies
I got the phone as a replacement for my G2 after I went through 4 or 5 of them in a month. The MT4GS isn't a bad phone, but I liked the G2 more. I'm actually thinking about selling this phone and just buying a Galaxy Nexus from Google.
I came from a G1, so this phone is epic. But after working for a connection center, I was spoiled. I've used almost every phone that's came out within the last 18 Months. WinPhone, BlackBerry, iOS, etc.... So I grew to dislike this phone, but not hate it. But it's the only good QWERTY. So I stay with it, I need a QWERTY. Sure the G2 has a nice KB, but why do I want do have a slower phone?
Also a side note. After working as assistant manager, and looking at the sales reports. We never sold any Doubleshots in the 18 months I worked there.
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AgentCherryColla said:
I came from a G1, so this phone is epic. But after working for a connection center, I was spoiled. I've used almost every phone that's came out within the last 18 Months. WinPhone, BlackBerry, iOS, etc.... So I grew to dislike this phone, but not hate it. But it's the only good QWERTY. So I stay with it, I need a QWERTY. Sure the G2 has a nice KB, but why do I want do have a slower phone?
Also a side note. After working as assistant manager, and looking at the sales reports. We never sold any Doubleshots in the 18 months I worked there.
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Yea, there are no other phones I would rather want than this, even if it doesn't have the best keyboard...